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jpak

(41,758 posts)
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:03 AM Jul 2016

Faith Ekakitie stopped by police at gunpoint over mistaken identity

Source: ESPN

Iowa defensive lineman Faith Ekakitie wrote that he "feared for my life" when stopped by police in a park Wednesday while playing the popular mobile game "Pokemon Go" in a case of mistaken identity.

Ekakitie wrote in a Facebook post that approximately five Iowa City police officers stopped him and four guns were pointed at him as police searched for a suspect who had robbed a nearby bank 10 minutes earlier.

"My pockets were checked, my backpack was opened up and searched carefully, and I was asked to lift up my shirt while they searched my waistband," Ekakitie wrote. "Not once did they identify themselves to me as Iowa City Police officers, but with four gun barrels staring me in the face, I wouldn't dare question the authority of the men and woman in front of me. This is what happened from my point of view."

Ekakitie said he did not initially respond to police orders to stop because he was approached from behind and was wearing headphones.

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Faith Ekakitie stopped by police at gunpoint over mistaken identity (Original Post) jpak Jul 2016 OP
Oh, yeah, they though he had, perhaps, "robbed a bank." Uh-huh. Judi Lynn Jul 2016 #1
so you embrace half of the headline but reject the other half uhnope Jul 2016 #3
LOL - it's Iowa City. cyberswede Jul 2016 #22
More "fittin' the description". BumRushDaShow Jul 2016 #2
My (Irish)American friend was surrounded by police with assault rifles in Italy uhnope Jul 2016 #4
People who don't look like the majority of a population IronLionZion Jul 2016 #5
yes. And I am not taking away from the fear this man must have felt given the police crisis uhnope Jul 2016 #8
Think about it. Igel Jul 2016 #17
Cool story bro. Darb Jul 2016 #13
Let's also not bend over backwards top rationalize it as something other than what it most likely is LanternWaste Jul 2016 #15
"most likely" is in the eye of the beholder. Did you read the article? uhnope Jul 2016 #16
"Not once did they identify themselves to me as Iowa City Police officers" Justice Jul 2016 #6
However, he was wearing earphones. Igel Jul 2016 #18
Three of them were in uniform. cyberswede Jul 2016 #23
Playing Pokeman while black. He's lucky to be alive. Vinca Jul 2016 #7
He did everything right - was calm & did as they asked. cyberswede Jul 2016 #24
This is happening far too often Democat Jul 2016 #9
I've heard that this is a common story for African-Americans playing Pokemon Go. Odin2005 Jul 2016 #10
That sucks. cyberswede Jul 2016 #25
This War on Blacks madokie Jul 2016 #11
+1 OverBurn Jul 2016 #14
There was a news story in Houston today. Igel Jul 2016 #19
The disprotionate rate isn't small Gormy Cuss Jul 2016 #20
I'm SO glad he didn't reach for his waistband.. lostnfound Jul 2016 #12
There's bodycam footage available cyberswede Jul 2016 #21
He DID say that he was not offended and that he thanked them for doing their job. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #26

Judi Lynn

(160,555 posts)
1. Oh, yeah, they though he had, perhaps, "robbed a bank." Uh-huh.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 05:00 AM
Jul 2016

He actually reminded them of someone they'd love to legally intimidate, maybe knock around, pretending he resisted arrest.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
3. so you embrace half of the headline but reject the other half
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 06:33 AM
Jul 2016

because the second half doesn't conform to preconceived bias

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
4. My (Irish)American friend was surrounded by police with assault rifles in Italy
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 06:37 AM
Jul 2016

because he looked like a wanted member of the IRA. Years ago, in a park when he was a tourist.

Mistaken identity happens, so in these times of terrible events, let's not bend over backwards to include this incident into a category that it might not qualify for

IronLionZion

(45,466 posts)
5. People who don't look like the majority of a population
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:14 AM
Jul 2016

will tend to stick out more easily or be assumed to be suspicious.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
8. yes. And I am not taking away from the fear this man must have felt given the police crisis
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:32 AM
Jul 2016

in the USA, but I hope that he feels a little better knowing it was a case of mistaken identity and not PWB (Pokemon While Black))

Igel

(35,323 posts)
17. Think about it.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:52 PM
Jul 2016

If a description is a "large black man, around 30" in a population that's mostly white, there are going to be fewer candidates.

If a description is a "large white man, around 30" in a population that's mostly white, there are going to be a lot of candidates.

The one with fewer candidates is more actionable. You may stop 10 guys, but there's reasonable chance if it's quick and nearby that you'll get the guy. But if you have a population 3 times larger, you'd have to stop 30 guys for the same odds. You'll need more details.

It's flipped in minority-majority neighborhoods. Where I live, a description "white youth, around 18, brown hair" probably refers to a single person. But "black youth, around 18, short hair" would yield dozens of candidates.

I suspect a lot of cops wouldn't abandon their idea of what the odds are like as they move between neighborhoods with different demographics, whether the cops are white or black.

(Now, pitch in cross-racial differences in face recognition, and the problem gets harder. And, no, that's not a racist thing, it's a developmental psychology thing.)

It's not just "different skin tone = suspicious", not for a lot of people. (Most? Dunno.)

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
15. Let's also not bend over backwards top rationalize it as something other than what it most likely is
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:31 AM
Jul 2016

Let's also not bend over backwards top rationalize it as something other than what it most likely is, regardless of anecdotal evidences.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
16. "most likely" is in the eye of the beholder. Did you read the article?
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:37 AM
Jul 2016

by this own account:

as police searched for a suspect who had robbed a nearby bank 10 minutes earlier.

and
In his Facebook post, Ekakitie thanked the officers for acting professionally and encouraged people to be more aware of their surroundings.



Justice

(7,188 posts)
6. "Not once did they identify themselves to me as Iowa City Police officers"
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:17 AM
Jul 2016

I hope he is believed when he says the cops are not identifying themselves. That is not protocol or policy or anything. Seems to me that the cops involved should be questioned about procedures.

Igel

(35,323 posts)
18. However, he was wearing earphones.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:57 PM
Jul 2016

So perhaps they did and he's confusing all he knows about the situation with all there is to know.

Perhaps they didn't identify themselves once he did the equivalent of taking his fingers out of his ears and stopping singing La-la-la.

I learned my lesson as a teen, driving with the volume so high I couldn't hear the sirens behind me. I was in the way of an ambulance, pulled over quickly and nobody reported me. But I slowed an ambulance. Now I see a lot of people doing the same thing, driving while tuned out and with a cone of noise to block out the world; or on foot and disconnected from the world (and just tuned into their world). Not a good thing, either way.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
24. He did everything right - was calm & did as they asked.
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 10:22 AM
Jul 2016

What are the odds of playing Pokemon Go in a park 3 blocks (and 10 minutes later) from a bank robbery? Yikes.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
9. This is happening far too often
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 08:03 AM
Jul 2016

We need to make sure that racist Trump doesn't end up in the White House.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
10. I've heard that this is a common story for African-Americans playing Pokemon Go.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 08:09 AM
Jul 2016

Lots of black players getting the cops called on them for "suspicious activity".

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
25. That sucks.
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 10:24 AM
Jul 2016

It's one thing, in this case, where there was a reported crime nearby, but if people are so paranoid that they call the police when they see black people walking around with their phones, that's pretty sad.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
11. This War on Blacks
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 08:12 AM
Jul 2016

is about to PISS me right the fuck off. This is bullshit. There is no doubt in my mind that if I'd been born black I'd be dead right now because I don't do bullshit worth a damn.
I want my black brothers and sisters to know this old white man is in your corner, with you, right now, always.

Igel

(35,323 posts)
19. There was a news story in Houston today.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 01:02 PM
Jul 2016
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Houston-police-shoot-man-reportedly-armed-with-gun-8406240.php

We'd all know this if he were black. He's not, so it's not factored into everybody's informal statistical database.

Such incidents are out-sized importance, because many believe that (all) white men in that situation walk away uninjured. "Disproportionate" numbers of blacks are shot, but that disproportionality is relatively small compared to the numbers of reported crimes, to the number of people shot by police, or to the overall numbers shot in the US. But if all you see are instances of that disproportionality, it's like observing the Moon and estimating its size. You lack a valid frame of reference so you can't judge how big or small something is. Perceptions don't really help here.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
20. The disprotionate rate isn't small
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 01:33 PM
Jul 2016

It's twice the proportion to population and no other racial group has negative disproportional rates.

lostnfound

(16,186 posts)
12. I'm SO glad he didn't reach for his waistband..
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 08:38 AM
Jul 2016

Or his cell phone, his bible, or any other dark object smaller than a breadbox.

BLM.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
26. He DID say that he was not offended and that he thanked them for doing their job.
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 10:27 AM
Jul 2016

The guy didn't try to make anything out of it, but others took it upon themselves to try to make it more. Classy young man.

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