AP Sources: Kaine emerges as favorite in Clinton's VP search

[Omaha Steve]

Source: AP

By KEN THOMAS and MATTHEW BARAKAT

STERLING, Virginia (AP) — Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine has emerged as the leading contender to join the Democratic ticket as Hillary Clinton's running mate, according to two Democrats, who both cautioned that Clinton has not made a final decision and could yet change directions.

The announcement of Clinton's pick could come as early as Friday afternoon in Florida, a crucial general election battleground state. The timing is aimed at shifting attention away from the end of Donald Trump's Republican convention and generating excitement before the start of Clinton's own convention next week in Philadelphia.

Kaine, 58, has been a favorite for the vice presidential slot since the start of Clinton's search process. He has been active in the Senate on foreign relations and military affairs and built a reputation for working across the aisle as Virginia's governor and mayor of Richmond.

"I'm glad the waiting game is nearly over," Kaine told reporters Thursday after an event in northern Virginia, deflecting questions about whether he was about to join the ticket.

FULL story at link.


Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., listens to community leaders at a roundtable discussion on religious freedom with the regional interfaith community at All Dulles Area Muslim Society (ADAMS) Mosque in Sterling, Va., Thursday, July 21, 2016. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)

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[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. I hope he turns out to be something other than my impression of him,

because that impression is that he's a boring centrist who won't add a bit of excitement to the ticket and is likely to disappoint progressives.

[CrowCityDem]

2. Progressives are always disappointed.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. And with good reason.

[CrowCityDem]

5. Yes, they often have unrealistic expectations.

[Mira]

10. It's the "realistic expectations"

that slow down our progress

[RBInMaine]

17. Want progress? WIN MORE ELECTIONS. And don't sit home on election day EVER.

[pnwmom]

44. It's the Republicans who slow down our progress. nt

[Omaha Steve]

21. Like Social Security & Medicare?

[senseandsensibility]

42. Thanks OS

Geez.

[pnwmom]

45. All of the people being considered are pro Social Security and pro Medicare. n/t

[CrowCityDem]

61. Hillary is for those things, in case you didn't know. I meant things like demanding to choose the VP

[Scruffy1]

14. Depends whether or not he can be replaced with a better senator.

At least he's not crazy.

[billhicks76]

23. Where's Your Head At?

Kaine won't mobile turnout of the base. That's our only hope. He's a big banks centrist. Republicans aren't interested in supporting Hillary. We need to mobilize turnout. I'll be making plans to move to Canada if she picks this uninspiring business guy. Trump isn't the only one being stupid.

[pnwmom]

46. The base consists of people who routinely vote for Hillary, and he is popular with that group

in Virginia. People whose allegiance to the Democratic party is so tenuous that they'd move to Canada if they didn't like a popular Virginia Governor aren't part of the base.

[LanternWaste]

77. At this point, I'm beginning to think that "base" is being redefined to mean

At this point, I'm beginning to think that "base" is being redefined to mean only whatever a particular 'concerned' poster may want it to mean rather than the classical and conventional definition accepted by poli- and social sciences: "a group of voters who almost always support a single party's candidates for elected office. Base voters are very unlikely to vote for the candidate of an opposing party, regardless of the specific views each candidate holds..."

[billhicks76]

87. Kaine Is Popular?

Wow you're already defending a lame pick before it even occurs? He is not "popular". You don't seek to have any idea what the base is. You forget Hillary barely won the primary? It's was the closest primary ever. Pivoting to the center isn't mobilizing the base. I have now lost all faith in your reasoning. Lieberman a favorite too? Cmon.

[billhicks76]

90. Maybe You Made A Spelling Error

You mean banks and not base? Warren and Sanders are popular with the base not Kaine.

[Grey Lemercier]

54. the base will turn out for Sec. Clinton

PoC, most unions, LGBTQ, etc. The party no longer needs the far left, which is a good thing, IMHO. I think we will continue to draw more and more centrists, moderate Republicans, and independents. The Republican party is in self-destruct mode and we will garner further support from the tatters of it. Clinton stands up for sensible moves and will protect our rights in a well established fashion. We do not need radicals with hopeless dreaming and demands ruining our party.

[Cooley Hurd]

55. "Far Left" is a term Bill O'Reilly uses often...

...just saying.

[Grey Lemercier]

56. I don't support Fox News, I am a centrist Dem, and some the Sanders people are far left

Sec Clinton won. She will win the GE. Kaine is a good pick, and will draw far more (his command of the Spanish language is superb) than he loses.

[Cooley Hurd]

57. Welcome to DU...

Denigrating the Left is frowned upon here. I've been an active Democrat for 44 years, and I was a Sanders supporter who is now supporting our nominee, Secretary Clinton.

[Grey Lemercier]

59. I am not trying to denigrate the liberal mainstream left, I consider myself part of that

I do think that some of the far left demands are simply not doable under our current political situation. Sec. Clinton will be a superb, sensible, liberal president. I feel much better with her in control than either Sanders or (god help us) Trump.

[pnwmom]

80. Despite what someone just told you, your views are very welcome here. It is clear that

you were not denigrating the left.

[murielm99]

84. I second pnwmom's post.

You are very welcome here.

[King_David]

92. +1

[pnwmom]

79. That was a very rude welcome. The new person was NOT denigrating the left. n/t

[Cooley Hurd]

91. Yes, yes they were...

[snooper2]

63. Canada is closed, not allowing anyone in unless you have a good paying job lined up there

Might have to head south LOL

[nbsmom]

74. Exactly.

I haven't come close to maxing out my donations for this election cycle. I WILL donate if Warren in on the ticket, but I will sit this year out and donate only to the downticket races if Clinton chooses a Safe White Guy like Kaine or Vilsack.

[Liberalagogo]

53. Welcome to ignore

n/t

[Plucketeer]

7. A perfect establishment player

Tim Plain - certainly on the tip of everyone's tongue. You can just FEEL the aggressiveness he's going to purr towards TP & Co.

[RBInMaine]

18. Establishment establishment establishment bla bla bla... It's such a broken record. YAWN!

[annavictorious]

78. I always find it amazing that someone who has comfortably sat in Congress for 26 years

caucusing with the Democrats is somehow seen as being outside the establishment, especially looking back on the 2009 ACA vote.

[DonCoquixote]

4. now hear this those who demonize any critics of HRC

I want Hillary to WIN. Debbie Wasserman Schultz will do well regardless of the election, the rest of us will not. If she pick this man, I will still work for her, but I would appreciate a little help as I tell people who have given up hope, or who frankly have had it beaten of them, to vote at least one more time.

[turbinetree]

15. I second your motion

Honk--------------------for a political revolution

[RBInMaine]

20. YES, support the ticket or please go work for Donny Fraud. Follow the rules please.

[billhicks76]

25. Wake Up

It won't affect anything what the few on DU do. The fact is if Hillary goes with Kaine we lose. That's my opinion. She's supposed to mobilize democratic turnout. She's not going to peel republicans...isn't that obvious yet? You think Kaine will do that? Instead of trying to win you're just going to say we better support the ticket. We all will here but we will also lose if she goes with him. Does that even matter to you or just complaining about keeping people in line. Unbelievable. We are so screwed if this keeps up.

[LuvNewcastle]

50. Well said!

[Darb]

62. Why would you make such a proclamation?

Against the rules or not, definitely less than smart.

Most of America has no opinion of Kaine yet and you seem to think it is your duty to poison the well before he even says one thing as VP candidate?

WTF?

[billhicks76]

86. Can You Read What I Said?

We need to do something to mobilize turnout of we want to win. Please tell me you're not going to dispute that too. And the VP pick is the most important decision to do so in my opinion. So if you're already making excuses for a lame pick that excites no one then yes I will say that is bad. Very simple actually.

[Darb]

88. I read it, yes.

It was brilliant. As was your reply. Absolutely brilliant. Has Hillary named him yet? There might be time to keep running him down.......pre-selection. Otherwise it's gonna have to be running him down post selection, but keep running him down.

[billhicks76]

93. Stop Being Ridiculous

And start trying to win. The time for self-obsession is over. I'm not sure you would recognize brilliance but I recognize smugness. Great work on bringing the party together. And yes Hillary did pick Tim Kaine today and the progressive base feels snubbed. I guess time will tell won't it. Go Banks 2016...Our Favorite Friends lol. Lasts pray Tim doesn't wander into Lieberman territory.

[George II]

60. And it's not even a matter of following the DU rules, it's a matter of common sense and...

...perhaps even survival.

[andym]

8. Too bad. He really doesn't help much in any electoral way

except to bring some experience in the Senate to the ticket. Such an uninspired choice. Hopefully she changes her mind.

[JoeOtterbein]

9. "I'm glad the waiting game is nearly over," Kaine told reporters

Sounds like he will NOT be the VP pick

[still_one]

11. I don't know who she will choose, and neither does anyone else, but I will bookmark for later

[rocktivity]

12. Does he balance the ticket?

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He doesn't if he's basically a male clone of Hillary.

Duh Donald's VP runners-up were Gingrich and Christie. Even he was smart enough to pick someone with a lower profile than him.


rocktivity

[geek tragedy]

27. he's more conservative than Clinton nt

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

16. Kaine JUST NOW expressed his approval of the TPP!

https://theintercept.com/2016/07/21/hours-before-hillary-clintons-vp-decision-likely-pick-tim-kaine-praises-the-tpp/

[still_one]

22. Good ole Glenn Greenwald's "unbiased" journal. The link classifies it as "Unofficial Sources', and

identifies it as a rumor, along with an unflattering picture of Hillary, written by one of the most anti-Hillary so-called reporters around, Zaid Jilani.

No one knows who Hillary will choose for VP, but one thing for sure is that she has the overwhelming support of Democrats and the Democratic party.

[larkrake]

32. that surprises you?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

33. No. He has also come out in favor of LESS bank regulation.

[sarcasmo]

66. Kaine wants to deregulate the banks.

Bad pick for VP, imho.

[JennyHot]

70. agreed

good one

[LarryNM]

35. Kaine for VP is a Disaster eom

[Ford_Prefect]

19. In this day and age Kaine is Promoting the idea that Banks have TOO MUCH REGULATION!

He's as dangerous to working Americans as many a Republican. He's 110% for Fracking anywhere and everywhere. He's a Chickenhawk warrior who never saw an arms program he didn't want to fund.

We need someone to broaden Hillary's appeal and Kaine is not it.

[AllyCat]

24. Ugh. Not my favorite. Well, here's hoping things turn out okay.

[geek tragedy]

26. he adds absolutely nothing to the election effort

his best attribute is that he's not Tom Vilsack.

[YOHABLO]

28. I would say most don't know who the fuck he is. If she goes with him we're fucked.

[icv03985]

75. Can't remember

He was my states gov for four years, but for the life of me - the only thing I can recall about the man, was that he wasn't a republican. I must have been drunk those years he was in office.

[rocktivity]

29. If the sources are Democrats who dare not speak their names

but "caution" that it's far from a done deal, why "leak" this story -- and why IS it a story?


rocktivity

[Omaha Steve]

38. WSJ, NYT, Chicago Trib, etc... have it too

It is news!

[rocktivity]

40. But what makes it news?

The fact that the sources are anonymous? Their anonymity confers credibility? For all we know, the sources could be Vilsack and his wife!


rocktivity

[Omaha Steve]

94. Seems it was news afterall

[roamer65]

30. No thanks.

Not interested if it's Kaine.

[larkrake]

31. just as I feared, a bank advocate

[mountain grammy]

34. I vote NO!

[LarryNM]

36. +1,000 n/t

[rusty fender]

37. Jeebus!

I hope it isn't him, or Vilsack

[Peachhead22]

39. I really hope not

But it could be a worse choice.

[RAFisher]

41. I still believe Clinton's VP will have about as much power as Selina Meyer had on Veep

So I don't really see why it's such a huge deal to people.

[Socal31]

49. John Tyler.

[Wednesdays]

83. Harry S Truman.

[angrychair]

43. Kaine supports bank DEregulation moves

Kaine supports things like TPP, which Clinton, as a policy position, opposes.



Then there is this:
"In a letter co-signed by 15 other Senate Democrats — and every Senate Republican — Kaine asked the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau to exempt community banks and credit unions from many of its regulatory requirements."

And this:

"In a second letter to the Federal Reserve, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, and the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, Kaine and his co-signers argue that large regional banks like PNC, BB&T, and SunTrust should be exempt from two regulations meant to reduce their risk of collapse."

Source:
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/07/clinton-vp-favorite-pushes-for-bank-deregulation.html

[Yukari Yakumo]

47. I think I speak for a few of us here, but...

Hill, pick somebody already.

[No Vested Interest]

48. Kaine appears to have some depth to him.

If he brings Virginia for sure, that's good.
His governor, McAuliffe, will appoint another Democrat, and that's good, especially as opposed to some states with very good and VP-eligible but Repub governors.
He likely isn't as lovable as our Joe Biden, but then, who could be.
He has foreign affairs knowledge - that's good.
He could ably represent the U at state funerals and international meetings.

If Kaine is Hillary's choice, I'm fine with that.

[captainarizona]

51. kaine?

Do no harm. Does kaine do no harm with bernie supporters? polls are now even. Be very careful when you answer big sister is watching.

[rpannier]

52. Labor Secretary Tom Perez

I disagree with Perez on the TPP
But, his resume is superb

- He investigated the Trayvon Martin shooting and launched a record number of probes into police practices.
- He sued Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio in Arizona and challenged the state's immigration law in court.
- He extracted settlements from big banks and implemented new rules on financial advisors for retirement accounts (I want jail; time, but he wasn't attorney general so that likely wasn't his call)
- He helped extend overtime pay to 4.2 million workers and was an early advocate of the $15 minimum wage
- He helped create the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Prevention Act and oversaw its first prosecutions
- He challenged voter ID laws in Texas and South Carolina.

He's young, he has been able to work with the republikkans on some issues, he's smart and he's dynamic
Being Hispanic helps

Kaine is dull, he supports banking deregulation and he was chairman of the DNC during the disaster that was 2019
Vilsack might have an inspiring biography, but Perez's is just as compelling

Tom Perez

[seabeckind]

58. Trial balloon?

Find out how much enthusiasm/criticism shows up?

If so, put me down in the "not impressed" column.

I'd rather someone who is more in tune with the problems that have been caused by the existing trade and economic policies.

Pointing once again to the turn in the country starting in 1980.

[freebrew]

64. So, she doesn't want to win??...nt.

This guy doesn't excite anyone.

Pro-banking, pro-TPP, anti-cannabis, anti-freedom.

Bad move. blackmailed again.

[sarcasmo]

65. Wants the TPP and deregulation of the banks = bad choice.

[alarimer]

67. Ugh. Puke. Not bold. Not progressive.

Stupid fucking cautious choice.

BIG fucking mistake.

Is she TRYING to lose to the orange Satan?

[MurrayDelph]

68. Was Joe Lieberman (douche) Unavailable?

Remember how well having a conservative running mate worked out for President Gore.

Instead of trying to court Republicans, Hillary needs to make the liberals not decide to stay home.

[lark]

72. Bad, sad news.

WTF Hillary? You can 100% do better than him and will hurt yourself getting the white male boring and big corporatist as VP. Who the hell would he help you with - no one Democratic and if you are counting on repugs to defect, well, that concerns me a lot. Doing this plays to Dems biggest fears like TPP. How can you not support that yet take him who's done everything possible to shove this down our throats and harm workers and the environment forever. Please don't pick him, please.

[floriduck]

76. It's another use of her judgment she may again regret.

[annavictorious]

81. Yes. Let's trust the judgement of those who wanted Dr. West on the platform committee

because he represents REAL democrats.

[floriduck]

82. You spelled judgment wrong.

[annavictorious]

89. Some people must be so much fun at parties!

Devising purity tests, redefining commonly used words like "base", sniffing out imperfections at every turn...and spell check too! (or is it spellcheck???)

[PassingFair]

73. Now where IS that emoji.... oh, here it is:

[YOHABLO]

85. Who is advising her on this choice DWS? She will give BS supporters the middle finger and forget

about people of color. She needs to chose a Latino or AA.