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alp227

(32,027 posts)
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 01:04 PM Jul 2016

Cory Batey sentenced to 15 years in Vanderbilt rape case

Source: The Tennessean

Cory Batey, a former Vanderbilt University football player who raped an unconscious woman in 2013, was sentenced to 15 years in prison Friday. It was the minimum term possible for the crimes.

Judge Monte Watkins said he'd weighed thousands of cases and in each considers a sentence that was fair for the victim, the defendant and their families.

"It is one of the saddest cases that I have ever encountered," he said. "And I’ve been in the legal business for 32 years.

"All of the defendants in this case basically have life sentences," he said, saying each would be on the sex offender registry for life after being released from prison.

Read more: http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2016/07/14/cory-batey-faces-least-15-years-friday-sentencing/86953944/

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Cory Batey sentenced to 15 years in Vanderbilt rape case (Original Post) alp227 Jul 2016 OP
Hm. Wonder what the difference between these two cases is... forgotmylogin Jul 2016 #1
You know Black people can't swim!!! 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #2
That must be it! +1 forgotmylogin Jul 2016 #5
Just what I was thinking. Especially since Turner's assault was witnessed by Nay Jul 2016 #3
"It was the minimum term possible for the crimes." NaturalHigh Jul 2016 #4
I guess Brock Turner wasn't one of the "thousands" of cases the judge reviewed. forgotmylogin Jul 2016 #6
Considering he's a judge a few thousand miles away from Stanford... NaturalHigh Jul 2016 #7
The judge in the Turner case ignored the minimum term and gave him much less time. n/t Tempest Jul 2016 #9
Judge" followed the law." LisaL Jul 2016 #24
Yeah ... Different State and different laws, explains the decade and a half difference in sentencing 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #11
I'd pretend comparing and contrasting is a "good story" as well if my bias and narrative depended on LanternWaste Jul 2016 #12
Why does any judge have the leeway to ignore the minimum sentence? FLPanhandle Jul 2016 #15
There seem to be efforts to do that. LisaL Jul 2016 #25
Yeah you know that had little to do with it, but nice try. Rex Jul 2016 #22
Rape versus sexual assault, for one. Igel Jul 2016 #17
I sort of get it. forgotmylogin Jul 2016 #19
Brock should definitely have gotten more time Skittles Jul 2016 #20
the white perpetrator in this case will get at least 15 years as well. Doctor_J Jul 2016 #18
not sure what the difference is regarding states of consciousness Skittles Jul 2016 #21
so if I drank until I passed out on the street and someone lifted my wallet, that would be the same Doctor_J Jul 2016 #26
yes, the crime of theft IS THE SAME Skittles Jul 2016 #27
At least they've learned. knightmaar Jul 2016 #8
Nice catch. Iggo Jul 2016 #10
Well, he played at Vanderbilt so it's unlikely there would be anything noteworthy about his Skeeter Barnes Jul 2016 #13
Batey never got to suit up for Vanderbilt in the first place! alp227 Jul 2016 #16
Good sentence FLPanhandle Jul 2016 #14
It was a minimum mandatory sentence this judge could have given him. LisaL Jul 2016 #23

forgotmylogin

(7,529 posts)
1. Hm. Wonder what the difference between these two cases is...
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 01:17 PM
Jul 2016

One certainly didn't set the standard for the other.

Cory Batey


Brock Turner:


http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/06/us/sexual-assault-brock-turner-stanford/

(CNN)Widespread outrage has erupted over a California judge's decision to give a former Stanford University swimmer a six-month jail sentence for sexually assaulting an unconscious woman. Critics are blasting the decision as far too lenient.

Prosecutors had asked that Brock Turner be sentenced to six years in prison for the January 2015 assault.
The controversial sentence was followed by the release of two dueling letters to the judge about the case that have been widely shared and sparked further outcry: one from the victim, who described her ordeal in 12 searing pages; and another from Turner's father, who dismissed his son's crime as "20 minutes of action."

Nay

(12,051 posts)
3. Just what I was thinking. Especially since Turner's assault was witnessed by
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 01:29 PM
Jul 2016

two passersby, who chased and restrained him for the police.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
4. "It was the minimum term possible for the crimes."
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 01:49 PM
Jul 2016

Different state, different laws. Don't let that get in the way of a good story, though.

forgotmylogin

(7,529 posts)
6. I guess Brock Turner wasn't one of the "thousands" of cases the judge reviewed.
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 01:50 PM
Jul 2016

Not that I think either of them should gotten off lightly, just for the record.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
24. Judge" followed the law."
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 01:58 AM
Jul 2016

"The prosecution can only challenge a sentence that is unlawful. In this case, the judge followed the law, and the recommendation of the probation department, and did not abuse his legal discretion."

http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_29993496/q-stanford-sex-case-sentence-will-da-appeal

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
11. Yeah ... Different State and different laws, explains the decade and a half difference in sentencing
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 03:02 PM
Jul 2016

Yeah, that must be it!

Another liberal that admits the existence of racial discrimination ... but, can't seem to find actual cases of it ... ever.

Our alliance remains strong.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
12. I'd pretend comparing and contrasting is a "good story" as well if my bias and narrative depended on
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 03:02 PM
Jul 2016

I'd pretend comparing and contrasting is a "good story" as well if my bias and narrative depended on trivializing it as such...

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
25. There seem to be efforts to do that.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 02:58 AM
Jul 2016

"What began as public outrage over a six-month sentence for the attempted rape and assault of an unconscious woman behind a dumpster on Stanford's campus has become a proposed state law demanding a mandatory minimum sentence of three years for similar crimes."

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/california-bill-proposes-mandatory-sentence-wake-brock-turner-case-n598921

Igel

(35,317 posts)
17. Rape versus sexual assault, for one.
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 03:50 PM
Jul 2016

Batey was charged with aggravated rape. Brock wasn't.

There was evidence that Batey stuck his johnson into the victim. No evidence Brock's johnson was even at attention. He used fingers. And didn't wash his hands before handling.

Batey didn't cooperate. Brock did.

Batey's accuser was conscious. Brock's wasn't.

Batey was caught on video helping to move the girl. He was a team player. Brock wasn't caught on video and wasn't part of a team. Everything points to her getting to the scene of the crime on her own, so when she passed out is a guess.


Then as other have pointed out, there's that trivial matter of different states, different judges, different laws. We could add that they had different lawyers, as well.

But, yeah, all of those things--different charges, different laws, different courts, different amounts of evidence, different crimes ... ORM, only race matters. I look at the cases, read the text, and I notice a lot of differences. Another might only look at the pictures and see one difference.

Now, it's one thing to ignore the role of race. That's a bad thing because it allows oppression and unequal treatment to continue.

It's another thing to ignore the role of everything except race. That's also a bad thing. This is another one of those "Sterling and Roof" comparisons where the analogy utterly fails after "So the cops encounter this guy," but because people already believe what the analogy is intended to show believe that the analogy must show what's intended.

forgotmylogin

(7,529 posts)
19. I sort of get it.
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 07:15 PM
Jul 2016

I hope the interpretation wasn't that I thought Batey should have gotten *less* time. It was that Brock should have gotten *more*.

I would also hope that "sexual assault of an unconscious person" should be serious despite the extent. It shouldn't come down to "Oh he only digitally fondled her so we're not going to punish him too severely..." The intent of a perpetrator who would sexually assault an unconscious person should be what is being punished, not the extent to which the act was carried out.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
18. the white perpetrator in this case will get at least 15 years as well.
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 04:07 PM
Jul 2016

also this girl was drugged, where the California victim drank herself into a coma. and this girl was raped, sodomized, and urinated on, while the one in California was fondled.

hard to believe there are duers thinking that 15 years for a rapist is too harsh. maybe some sympathy for the victim instead of the rapist is in order.

Skittles

(153,164 posts)
21. not sure what the difference is regarding states of consciousness
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 01:39 AM
Jul 2016

if someone is not capable of giving consent, what difference does it matter WHY?

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
26. so if I drank until I passed out on the street and someone lifted my wallet, that would be the same
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 09:49 AM
Jul 2016

Last edited Mon Jul 18, 2016, 10:21 AM - Edit history (1)

as if he knocked me unconscious and took my wallet? come on.

this crime was orders of magnitude more violent than the one at stanford. the white perp in the case in the op is likely open to drug charges and a kidnapping charge on top of the sexual components. the two cases are very different and should be treated as such.

eta: this attack was also premeditated, judging from the roofie.

knightmaar

(748 posts)
8. At least they've learned.
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 01:53 PM
Jul 2016

And they don't regale us with: what position he played; how many sacks/yards rushing he had in his last season etc. etc.

Skeeter Barnes

(994 posts)
13. Well, he played at Vanderbilt so it's unlikely there would be anything noteworthy about his
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 03:06 PM
Jul 2016

performance on the field.

alp227

(32,027 posts)
16. Batey never got to suit up for Vanderbilt in the first place!
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 03:21 PM
Jul 2016

He was only an incoming freshman when he was arrested.

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