Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump tied going into conventions - CBS/NYT poll
Source: MSN/CBS
Heading into the two parties' conventions, the race for President is a dead heat, a change from last month when Hillary Clinton led by six points. Forty percent of registered voters now say they will back Clinton (a dip of three points), while 40 percent will vote for Trump (a bump up of three points). A month ago, Clinton led Trump 43 to 37 percent.
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Sixty-seven percent of voters now say Clinton is not honest and trustworthy, up from 62 percent last month and the highest percentage this election cycle. Only 28 percent view her as honest. Clinton's ratings on honesty were more positive soon after she announced her presidential bid in April of last year. Also, fewer now say she is prepared for the job of president than did so last month - although half still say she is.
Although Clinton receives lower marks on these attributes compared to last month, views of Trump have not improved on these measures and remain mostly negative. Sixty-two percent of voters don't think he's honest (compared to Clinton's 67 percent), and two-thirds continue to say Trump is not prepared for the job of president, compared to 48 percent who say that about Clinton.
On the email matter specifically, most voters think Clinton did something wrong when she set up a personal email address and server for work while she was Secretary of State, including 46 percent who think what she did was illegal, up slightly from 41 percent last month.
Read more: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/hillary-clinton-and-donald-trump-tied-going-into-conventions-cbs-nyt-poll/ar-BBuklJ8
Of course the media has continued to push the meme that Hillary Clinton is not trustworthy even though the FBI did not indict of her lying to the FBI and when you compare the number of falsehoods stated in the course of the campaign, Trump is really breaking new boundaries. Yet, the meme is that Trump tells it like it is. Likewise, the media is portraying the parties' respective platforms as equally extreme. As was the case in 2008 and 2012, the media will strive to portray the candidates in a false equivalent light.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)Trump will have a convention bump. By the time the Democratic convention rolls around, that bump will have faded. After the Democratic convention, Hillary will have a bump. That bump will only build.
broadcaster75201
(387 posts)nt
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)significance in that they indicate what the mood of the country is at this point in time. And poll results can affect fund raising. Potential donors are more likely to donate if their candidate seems to be polling well.
forest444
(5,902 posts)it's even more important we post them when they're not (or not entirely).
Like them or not polls are an indispensable tool for knowing how we're doing. It's precisely at those times when they take a turn for the worse that we need to pay especially close attention to them, and try to brainstorm as to why and as to what can be done.
Botany
(70,518 posts)In 2012 the GOP did a study after the election and the results were if the GOP
ever wanted to win a national election again they had to better w/women, blacks,
and hispanics. Trump is toxic to all three.
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)I shut it down long ago..the pundits with no follow up questions..when they should be "peeling back the onion" - headlines without substance - lack of curiosity - lack of comprehension from their peanut gallery...just hate hate hate all the time....no wonder RBG had enough and spoke out - she is fearful...too bad she apologized....
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)they want a horse race? I'm not sure if I want to be that cynical or not. But if they are that is extremely unethical of them and it needs to be exposed.
Botany
(70,518 posts)... and how the questions were asked.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)Since the 9/11 tragedy, and here it is years later and their pushing the "Hillary isn't trustworthy meme" almost daily (especially Clinton/Pres. Obama hater Maureen Dowd). So much for them being a "Liberal Publication." Like, tRump is trustworthy
In my estimation, they and many outlets do want a horse race meme as they're hoping to increase their subscriber base as people are reading newspapers less and less and now digital media is starting to even suffer for some on line publications. Last night, Rachel Maddow was even telling a Dem operative/strategist on her television show that Hillary isn't getting enough out of all of the money she's spending on ads vs tRump etc. because she's struggling in the polls vs tRump, and mind you those Q-Poll numbers are mixed in with the more solid polling so of course Hillary's numbers are going to go down on that account alone. The Q-Poll, as you probably know uses a methodology where they're polling white R's more, also predicting that their numbers come election time will be up 2%, while at the same time they're polling minorities less and predicting that their turn out in this 2016 election cycle will be lower by 2% which in their polling keeps tRump "close" early on in this presidential race. Not saying that there won't be ebbs and flows and the tightening of the race in some polling in this presidential race even though tRump is an atrocious candidate, and even though the media is continuing to do their part in parroting the meme Hillary is untrustworthy, a liar etc., but for tRump to be polling ahead of Hillary in Florida (Says the latest polling coming out of Florida) is ridiculous, especially given that minority registration has vastly increased thanks to all of the racist, nasty bile tRump continues to spew against most minorities. Registration has increased, but those registered folks in Florida now have to VOTE!
Well, at least more people now go elsewhere in search for far more fair, balanced and accurate news investigative/reporting. Not a lot of it exists now-a-days, but it is out there if you look hard enough in finding it.
George II
(67,782 posts)still_one
(92,225 posts)continue their same mediocrity in their analysis of this election also.
Ironically, the NYTimes this morning is commenting on this poll as being a reflection of Hillary's email issue, which of course the NYTimes was the leader in misrepresenting the facts regarding that from the start.
"Our esteemed newspaper of record told a riveting EXCLUSIVE! MUST CREDIT NEW YORK TIMES! tale last week about a criminal inquiry into Hillary Clintons mishandling of classified information with her personal email. And except for how it wasnt about Clinton mishandling classified information, and the information wasnt classified at the time, and the inquiry wasnt criminal, it was all true! Which is why the Times quietly changed its story overnight to be slightly less inaccurate in its telling of this WHOA IF TRUE! story of Clinton criming while Clinton. And then it changed the story again. And then it published a correction about how the original headline and story were not exactly right, but its all good now, Pulitzers please!"
http://wonkette.com/592252/new-york-times-sorry-for-sucking-at-journalism-again
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/01/02/how-shoddy-ny-times-journalism-has-already-marr/207685
With Jayson Blair and Judy Miller gone, I can see that they are continuing those footsteps
Even after a less than stellar performance of the polling results from the last primaries, they seem to be pushing these polls as though they are absolute gospel.
I will wait until after the respective political party's conventions, because that is when people will start paying attention
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)IS what has sustained me the last several election cycles. IF I had believed polling outfits like Rasmussen or Quinnipiac or even in some instances PPP, or believed these so-called "Liberal media" television shows (Like any ever really existed), I'd have either gone completely gray or pulled my hair out at the roots and I love my hair to much to put it through that
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,841 posts)...Hillary being perceived as untrustworthy.
You watch these news panel shows and more and more it's apparent few of these 'pundits' has an actual clue or insight about anything, they're just parroting what they heard the other pundits saying, who were in turn doing the same. No one wants to be the outlier with the different opinion.
still_one
(92,225 posts)story several times before they got it almost right.
http://wonkette.com/592252/new-york-times-sorry-for-sucking-at-journalism-again
I wonder what a poll would reflect on the trustworthiness of the media?
The media have been spewing the republican talking points that "Hillary isn't honest", and then in the poll they ask if "Hillary is honest".
Gee, When did you stop beating your wife?
randr
(12,412 posts)Pay no attention, take note of sponsors of the Republican fiasco if you watch it, and refuse to buy their products.
The Green Manalishi
(1,054 posts)If one candidate or the other were impossibly ahead they would take a multi million dollar drubbing.
It is really the 'entertainment industry', political branch.
randr
(12,412 posts)and we be the sheep they fleece for it. It is within our power at all times to stop buying the crap they promote.
The Green Manalishi
(1,054 posts)but it's like boycotting Wal Mart- it feels good, one can get by perfectly well without their crap (I do) but doesn't really do squat in terms of the here and now.
Loki
(3,825 posts)There is absolutely no way this poll is legit. Underwater with women, Latinos and African Americans, Donald Is going to sink like the trash he is.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)but Gallup and Q had Romney ahead 8 pts and surging the day before the election.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)unprofessional of him to give his personal opinions beyond the FBI report.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,435 posts)simply an effort to create the false equivalency that is soooo important to continue the flow of political ad buys into the corporate coffers - the American public be damned...
REALforever
(69 posts)Right now Rasmussen has Trump by, get this, 7 points nationally!.. In July 2012 they had Mitt plus 4pts despite every poll showing otherwise(Rassy went on to be at the bottom of the barrel for 2012 accuracy,btw )
Quinnipiac seems to do the same.
Their effort is based on making it a horse race, especially when most COULD see it's not if they were fair and honest with info...
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/
All polls all the time....now - I ask you - who the hell is being polled....are they calling mobil at the beach? - are they calling work tel. phones..? what are the demographics?
I watched a show when Barack was running - and they interviewed the funniest (if not stupid) people..one actually said "what kind of a name is Barack Obama?" - the person couldn't even pronounce his name....
I turned off m$m long ago - to think the jamocha from drumpfs campaign is on cnn and they admit he is still getting paid by trump..WTH - let's just call it trcnn...bought and maybe paid for....disgusting..
Our future is up to us..GET OUT THE VOTE..if it's to be, it's up to me!
Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)Nothing more, nothing less. The more clicks their sites get, the more advertising dollars they earn.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)She should be winning by double digits.
Who are these Trump voters??
Night Watchman
(743 posts)You should've stuck to doing your fucking job instead of giving a political speech!
Saviolo
(3,282 posts)The mainstream media needs this to be a close race. They need the excitement that will bring in viewers and advertising dollars in their waning and dying industry. If the pundits don't have a conflict to talk about, they just don't get the eyeballs necessary for ad revenue for their top brass. So you can bet that if there are 10 polls that show the race isn't close, the media will talk about #11 that shows them neck-and-neck.
ananda
(28,866 posts)But the media needs to keep it tight
for ratings and such.
Wibly
(613 posts)I may get run out of here for saying this but my gut tells me, by nomination Clinton the Democrats are risking putting Donald Trump in the White House.
Dems had better make sure they get a turn out on the down ballot contests and win the House and Senate, because right now they are putting forward a very weak candidate for President.
zazen
(2,978 posts)SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)I do not listen to Donald Trump, so there is no way I'm repeating his talking points.
Clinton is very weak among the young, and a whole lot of other people.
Writing everyone who has concerns off as "repeating a Trump talking point" is very foolish and dangerous. You need to win support, not marginalize it.
SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)Hillary obliterates Trump among the young and a whole lot of other people.
You made an incorrect statement that also is one of Donald Trump's lies.
ram2008
(1,238 posts)These numbers probably aren't off from the real thing; this is not some MSM conspiracy. And it is an entirely self-inflicted wound by the party. Hopefully Hillary picks an anti-TPP progressive for the ticket, otherwise it's going to be a long slog to the finish line. Although, if Trump picks Pence I'd imagine that may rally the base a little bit because of how anti-gay he is.
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)they don't like. I think it's just human nature. But it doesn't really matter because the only poll that matters is the one that will be held on election day.
bklyncowgirl
(7,960 posts)Complain about the media all you want but given Hillary's qualifications and Trumps lack thereof she should be leading by double digits.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)They have bashed Hillary Clinton so much so that whatever gains she had have been completely erased.
I know that polls don't mean anything this far out, but the narrative is there. And they can rewrite that narrative however they see fit.
They got their wish.
Laser102
(816 posts)wonder it's close. Any one else who is saying the things trump is would have already lost. They will continue this so called horse race crap for the next four months. I am worried.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)Things really start to change after the debates. Until then, these polls are just noise.
MFM008
(19,818 posts)The media whose JOB it is to MAKE this a race SAYS it's a race.
PSPS
(13,603 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)But I think it's a big eye opener to the fact that not only are we severely divided as a country ideologically, but that the other side is so extremely dangerous to what Democratic Institutions we still have in place. I never thought I'd see the day when we're so close to a fascist militaristic dictatorship.
suston96
(4,175 posts)Try this one and take the time to scroll down, and watch over a period of a few days.
Remember 2000. Gore won the popular vote but lost the electoral count.
http://www.pollheadlines.com/poll-category.php?category=trump-vs-hillary