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kpete

(71,996 posts)
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 11:14 AM Jun 2012

Romney Adviser Hits Back On Bain Offshoring: Obama Is ‘Outsourcing’ Jobs To Nebraska!

Source: Think Progress

Romney Adviser Hits Back On Bain Offshoring: Obama Is ‘Outsourcing’ Jobs To Nebraska!
By Igor Volsky posted from ThinkProgress Economy on Jun 24, 2012 at 11:03 am

Mitt Romney’s campaign is responding to evidence that Bain Capital invested in companies that sent American jobs overseas by accusing the Obama administration of “outsourcing” telemarketing jobs to Omaha, Nebraska.

During an appearance on CNN’s State of the Union, Romney adviser Ed Gillespie continued the campaign’s dubious strategy of schooling reporters on the difference between “outsourcing” and “offshoring” jobs, insisting that a Washington Post investigation — which found that Romney’s company “invested in a series of firms that specialized in relocating jobs done by American workers to new facilities in low-wage countries like China and India” — misunderstood the complicated business jargon.

Gillespie said that he was “not aware” if companies tied to Bain shipped jobs overseas, before adding, “what happened in the story as near I can tell is that the reporter confused the notion of outsourcing.” “Now a lot of American companies outsource, they outsource domestically,” he said, noting that the Obama campaign outsources jobs to Nebraska and CNN contracts out video editing projects.



Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/06/24/505188/romney-adviser-hits-back-on-bain-offshoring-obama-is-outsourcing-jobs-to-nebraska/

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Romney Adviser Hits Back On Bain Offshoring: Obama Is ‘Outsourcing’ Jobs To Nebraska! (Original Post) kpete Jun 2012 OP
Nebraska? liberal N proud Jun 2012 #1
Ed Gillespie is a tool. N/T appal_jack Jun 2012 #19
oh sure Obama just picks red states to outsource to PatrynXX Jun 2012 #25
I was thinking about that - Neb. being traditonally red. liberal N proud Jun 2012 #27
This offer good everywhere.... James48 Jun 2012 #2
Sounds Clintonesque with his semantics... rateyes Jun 2012 #3
exactly. Voice for Peace Jun 2012 #11
Well outsourcing is different than off-shoring to a certain extent....... Swede Atlanta Jun 2012 #29
Y'see, Babe, it's too complicated for you to understand. AlbertCat Jun 2012 #4
Thanks! I just bought it and a couple other tracks. After listening to it here three times. marble falls Jun 2012 #13
^^^ What YOU said ^^^. . +1. . . . .n/t annabanana Jun 2012 #17
Gillespie is lying Enrique Jun 2012 #5
AND he kept a straight face the entire time ..... its really all about Geography: ..... marble falls Jun 2012 #6
Did he really say, "Nebraska?" madashelltoo Jun 2012 #7
First Hawaii isn't a state, now Nebraska isn't either? perdita9 Jun 2012 #8
How stupid do they think we are? emulatorloo Jun 2012 #9
Oh they are very stupid and now they been given their lunasun Jun 2012 #30
Ya know, that boy is just too fucking stupid to breathe. Autumn Jun 2012 #10
I think they're just playing to their idiot base KakistocracyHater Jun 2012 #12
Wow...whatever happened to Nebraska? BeyondGeography Jun 2012 #14
Ed Gillespie Is Conflating Contracting With Outsourcing DallasNE Jun 2012 #15
And that's bad....why, exactly, Ed? tanyev Jun 2012 #16
Weak. nt onehandle Jun 2012 #18
Remember the movie "Idiocracy"? Iliyah Jun 2012 #20
"Nebraska - isn't that one of those former Russian states?" NewJeffCT Jun 2012 #21
God forbid we actually *gasp* hired NEBRASKANS for jobs? LynneSin Jun 2012 #22
I find it hard to believe the WaPo would publish an article high density Jun 2012 #23
bwahahaha, outsourcing to Nebraska! Wow, whatta stretch! Calling Jon Stewart to make sense of this wordpix Jun 2012 #24
Pretty soon they'll be saying Mz Pip Jun 2012 #26
Nebraska is a battleground state so thanks, Mitt, for promoting Obama's candidacy there Samantha Jun 2012 #28
He didn't say Nebraska was another country....... Smilo Jun 2012 #31
This is all they have? If they are this desperate now, wait until September. Suji to Seoul Jun 2012 #32

liberal N proud

(60,335 posts)
1. Nebraska?
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 11:16 AM
Jun 2012


They don't even know that Nebraska is part of the United States and they want to run the country?

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
25. oh sure Obama just picks red states to outsource to
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 04:45 PM
Jun 2012

or does Ed know Nebraska is mostly red. except well Omaha. Politics aside, the people in Nebraska aren't that bad..

liberal N proud

(60,335 posts)
27. I was thinking about that - Neb. being traditonally red.
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 05:15 PM
Jun 2012

Romney doesn't even know they are part of the electorate, yet the majority in the state will support him.

An ad should be run in the Omaha World Herald reminding hem of their status.

rateyes

(17,438 posts)
3. Sounds Clintonesque with his semantics...
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 11:22 AM
Jun 2012

depends on what the definition of "outsourcing" is. "Outsourcing" or "offshoring" either way, RMoney screwed the USA workers.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
11. exactly.
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 11:50 AM
Jun 2012

It will be enough of a response for a dumb person who wants
to believe in Romney.

But I hope they'll keep clarifying exactly what Bain is all
about and who has benefited.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
29. Well outsourcing is different than off-shoring to a certain extent.......
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 05:53 PM
Jun 2012

Outsourcing, absent a union contract, is a decision by one company to simply have another company some service or perform some task on their behalf. Companies could just have laid employees off and outsourced that work. That is common where the task/activity is very focused and may not require full-time, permanent employees.

Obviously in an environment where there is a union, the contract should prohibit outsourcing but many companies do it anyway and it ends up in a labor dispute.

But at a minimum with outsourcing, the jobs stay in America and, in some cases, create good-paying jobs. My company outsources certain project management work and the project managers for the contractor make about 25% more than our in-house contractors.

Off-shoring is the danger where jobs that could be performed either within the company or outsourced to other American workers are done in another country. This is where Bain was the expert, the pioneers. Obama needs to hammer this home over and over again.

This is especially important among blue-collar white communities in the rustbelt. They were strong supporters of Hillary but mostly came along to Obama in 2008. Polling suggests support is weak in 2012. These facts need to be driven home to this audience. Obama did not offshore your jobs to India, China, South Korea, etc. but Mittens RMoney did (in addition to torturing his dog Seamus).

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
4. Y'see, Babe, it's too complicated for you to understand.
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 11:26 AM
Jun 2012

It's so intricate that you need an expert to explain this grown up stuff, Honey Lamb. No one outside of the loop could possibly understand. We are essential to run this stuff for you know-nothings.

Like derivatives!

TRUST US.




Like Laurie Anderson says... "Only an expert can deal with the problem..."

marble falls

(57,097 posts)
13. Thanks! I just bought it and a couple other tracks. After listening to it here three times.
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 12:00 PM
Jun 2012

After listening to it three times.

marble falls

(57,097 posts)
6. AND he kept a straight face the entire time ..... its really all about Geography: .....
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 11:34 AM
Jun 2012

Nebraska, the Caymans, China, Hawaii, Kenya.

madashelltoo

(1,698 posts)
7. Did he really say, "Nebraska?"
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 11:40 AM
Jun 2012

There are stupid people all around the world right now saying, "Don't give him our tag. Even stupid has boundaries." Nebraska? What the hell?

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
30. Oh they are very stupid and now they been given their
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 10:10 PM
Jun 2012

talking points on the Bain outsourcing overseas argument "hey - Obama does it too-he sent jobs to Nebraska"

It makes sense to the sheepies even if they live in Nebraska I bet

Base is very stupid and proud of it too don't forget - =no elites

Autumn

(45,097 posts)
10. Ya know, that boy is just too fucking stupid to breathe.
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 11:46 AM
Jun 2012

And there ain't no cure for that. When you stop and think about it, the fact that he is actually a Presidential contender sickens me more than anything. This country is beyond help.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
15. Ed Gillespie Is Conflating Contracting With Outsourcing
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 12:11 PM
Jun 2012

Contracting has been around for a long, long time. Offshoring is something done to avoid taxes and is done in tax havens such as the Cayman Islands or on board ships anchored in international waters. Outsourcing can be either contracting with other companies to perform the work or the moving of the plant overseas. It can even involve offshoring. The most common outsourcing is moving production overseas and companies like Apple are a prime example of that where most of their production is done in China. Automakers contract with suppliers for many of their parts. Under Gillespie's definition this would be outsourcing. This type of work has been going on much longer than the term outsourcing has been around so that means that outsourcing is a different animal than contracting. Did CNN give any pushback to this outlandish attempt to conflate contracting with outsourcing?

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
20. Remember the movie "Idiocracy"?
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 12:58 PM
Jun 2012

Where two people went into an hibernation program regarding a governmental top secret project and were forgotten about. After 500 years they were awaken and after awhile realized how dumbed-down the American people were to the extent of plain stupidity.

Well folks, looks like the GOP group of folks are headed in that direction.

We know that the GOPs don't think Hawaii is part of the US since Pres O was born there, now add Nebraska

Thats fucking sad.

high density

(13,397 posts)
23. I find it hard to believe the WaPo would publish an article
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 02:01 PM
Jun 2012

where the two initial, core sentences of the story are completely incorrect. Ed Gillespie lying, however, would be very easy to believe.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
24. bwahahaha, outsourcing to Nebraska! Wow, whatta stretch! Calling Jon Stewart to make sense of this
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 03:24 PM
Jun 2012

one

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
28. Nebraska is a battleground state so thanks, Mitt, for promoting Obama's candidacy there
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 05:40 PM
Jun 2012

I am hoping Nebraskans are made aware of the assistance our Democratic President is giving them in the jobs arena, and thanks to Mitt, they just became better informed.


"Nebraska

This is a solid Republican state that has leaned more Republican in presidential races over the last half-century than any other state but Utah. Yet Nebraska can divide electoral votes by Congressional district. Four years ago, President Obama carried the state’s second Congressional District – Omaha and the surrounding area – and collected a single electoral vote. A competitive Senate race could help drive up Democratic turnout again, but Republicans are less likely to be taken by surprise."

at http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/electoral-map


Sam

Smilo

(1,944 posts)
31. He didn't say Nebraska was another country.......
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 10:10 PM
Jun 2012

what he was trying to do was use the word "outsource" with the word domestic and then tie in with Obama and Nebraska. He failed.

He came across as disingenuous and stupid. But sadly as we know this will play of Fox and the foxtards will say to themselves "see outsourcing it's only like send jobs to Nebraska.

 

Suji to Seoul

(2,035 posts)
32. This is all they have? If they are this desperate now, wait until September.
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 12:57 AM
Jun 2012

They may accuse Obama of drinking the blood of unbaptized babies in front of a witch's pyre made of sulfur and brimstone.

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