Poll: 1-in-4 uncommitted now in White House race

[Omaha Steve]

Source: AP-Excite

By LAURIE KELLMAN and JENNIFER AGIESTA

WASHINGTON (AP) - They shrug at President Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney. They're in no hurry to decide which one to support in the White House race. And they'll have a big say in determining who wins the White House.

One-quarter of U.S. voters are persuadable, according to an Associated Press-GfK poll, and both Obama and Romney will spend the next four months trying to convince these fickle, hard-to-reach individuals that only he has what it takes to fix an ailing nation.

It's a delicate task. These voters also hate pandering.

"I don't believe in nothing they say," says Carol Barber of Iceland, Ky., among the 27 percent of the electorate that hasn't determined whom to back or that doesn't have a strong preference about a candidate.

FULL story at link.


Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20120624/D9VJG4PG1.html

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President Obama gestures during a grassroots campaign speech Friday, June 22, 2012, at Hillsborough Community College in Tampa, Fla. (AP Photo/Chris O'Meara)

[FailureToCommunicate]

1. Its a shame that "democracy" is decided by $$ spent on "low information" voters

WOuld it be that hard for them to listen- or read (gasp)- to some news more often than the supermarket check out line?



thanks Steve

[HomerRamone]

6. They "don't believe in nothing they say"

So they believe in everything they say? ~(_8^(I)

[Ferretherder]

21. No, no, no! It's...

I ain't not don't got no belief in not nothin' them thar people says.


I think that's what she meant to say.

[bloomington-lib]

2. 1 in 4 are idiots and since idiots vote republican...

[progressoid]

3. Great. Five more months of pandering to these fools.

[Nay]

4. Indeed. 5 more months, knowing that a large % of the fools will vote against their interests. I can

hardly wait for it to be over.

[Robb]

5. These "undecideds" are possibly merely "unenthusiastic about RMoney."

There is a strong contingent of right-wing voters who do not see any difference between Romney and Obama.

[MightyMopar]

7. Retiring Dem "I think the people have gotten dumber."

Retiring Dem "I think the people have gotten dumber."

Questioned about his time in Congress, Congressman Gary Ackerman, a Democrat from New York, opined.

" Your premise is that comity exists now. It may not be entirely accurate. It used to be you had real friends on the other side of the aisle. It’s not like that anymore. Society has changed. The public is to blame as well. I think the people have gotten dumber. I don’t know that I would’ve said that out loud pre-my announcement that I was going to be leaving. [Laughter] But I think that’s true. I mean everything has changed. The media has changed. We now give broadcast licenses to philosophies instead of people. People get confused and think there is no difference between news and entertainment. People who project themselves as journalists on television don’t know the first thing about journalism. They are just there stirring up a hockey game."

<http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/retiring-dem-people-have-gotten-dumber_647697.html>

Of course the Mittwits at Weakly Standard love this.

Then there's this:
Selling destructive ideology
Why conservatives sell their wildly destructive ideology better than Democrats
By George Lakoff and Elisabeth Wehling, Alternet
<http://www.salon.com/2012/06/23/selling_destructive_ideology/>

[onehandle]

8. I'm certainly uncommitted.

President Obama or a two-faced elitist who would make the last puppet look positively independent of influence.

Decisions, decisions.





People are morons.

[Iliyah]

9. Other polls say otherwise

I mean they have so many polls out there of which at some point contradicts one another or equals, balances or dismisses and even overturns each other.

As for this one, BS. I believe about 95% of polls are bought and paid for by their CORPORATE MASTERS and as mentioned many times before, the CORPORATE MEDIA wants this race tight for:

a. Stealing it out right
b. 5 conservative justices

Thats why Pres O needs to win with a fairly large margin and even then I find no comfort in the GOP trying something else evil.

[denvine]

10. After the 2000 elections

I lost confidence in the American electorate. After 2004, not only had I lost confidence but I became frightened by the power of ignorance.

[Individualism]

11. Many of them are probably Paul Supporters

they hate Romney and they don't really like Obama, some may vote either, some may vote gary johnson or write in paul or they may not show up at all. there desirable platform falls in line with the libertarian one of fiscal conservatism but social liberalism.

[surrealAmerican]

12. I have no trouble believing that 1/4 of US citizens are undecided, but ...

... how many of these people are actually going to vote? Most people who don't care much one way or the other would be unlikely to "waste their time" voting.

[Jamaal510]

13. I don't get how anybody can be undecided between these two guys

and act like Obama and Romney are the same. They have such stark differences in most of their policies, including taxation and the safety net...do these people not pay much attention to politics?

[scribble]

14. Voters are fundamentally decent ..

and are just looking for a chance to vote that way.

As voters, we've all been turned off by what we've seen in politics for a long time now. It's still possible to win us over to one side or another, because being decent; we have open minds.

Republicans know this and have been taking advantage of us by lying their pants off for thirty years. Democrats have mostly let them. Our political friends haven't turned out to be as decent as we had steadily hoped they would be.

So twenty percent isn't a bad figure at this point in an election year. Not bad at all.

If Democratic candidates make a strong, sincere plea to cast votes in favor of decency, they will win in a landslide. I believe this, but I haven't seen it even once in my life... although Howard Dean came close in 2004, 2006 and 2008.


sc

[JDPriestly]

15. The solution? Change the law on the Federal Reserve to require it to

include on its boards and on the team that makes the real decision as many low to average-income members as there are bankers. Put someone who works as a sales clerk and someone who actually does the work on his family farm, etc. on that board. It is completely wrong that only rich people make the economic decisions in this country.

[MADem]

16. Oh boy....here come the attention ....er....BOORS.

Every four years, there's a small cadre of people who pretend they can't fucking decide.

Please. Anyone who can't decide who to vote for in this race--where one candidate is sane, a hard worker, has good ideas, wants to move the country, er, forward....and the other candidate wants to grab all the money for him and his rich pals, take away your damn medical care and social safety net, and send your damn job to China....well, they're an IDIOT.

I say the media should IGNORE those "undecided" attention seekers, instead of coddling them, pleading with them, acting like their opinion matters when they already know who they are going to vote for but they are posturing for the fifteen minutes of fame, and instead spend time focusing on the issues.

We have one good candidate, and one who sucks. Choose! It's not that hard.

[Suji to Seoul]

17. 40% will vote one way, 40% will vote the other way. The election is for the idiot 20%

who have the ultimate dilemma: two hands and one dirty asshole.

[JoeyT]

18. I think some people would respond "uncertain/not sure"

to a poll that asked if they were a police car or a rocket ship.

"One-quarter of U.S. voters are persuadable, according to an Associated Press-GfK poll"

Well that's an awfully big assumption on the part of the writer of this article. Given voter turnout levels I'd be willing to bet a large portion of that 25% don't really give a damn and any attempt to persuade them is wasted effort.

Despite her mangling of the English language, I tend to agree with Carol. Fortunately, there's a way to not have to believe what they say and that's paying attention to what they do. They're not fickle, they're just uninformed and uninterested. Good luck trying to break through a wall of "I don't give a shit", because it can't be done.

If they don't care enough to try to remain at least marginally informed, even if that's by watching Fox and being misinformed, they don't care enough to go vote. The hell with those wankers.

[NYC Liberal]

19. Who the hell is "undecided"?

At this point in the game it should be pretty clear which guy you agree with and support.

We're not talking about a party primary where the candidates pretty much agree on 95%+ of the issues.

[BlueIris]

20. Ouch.

I was hoping it wouldn't get that bad, but I'm not surprised it has.