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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Tue May 31, 2016, 09:20 AM May 2016

California Gov. Jerry Brown Endorses Hillary Clinton

Source: CNN

Updated 9:38 AM ET, Tue May 31, 2016
Story highlights

The primary is June 7
The race between Clinton and Sanders is close

(CNN)California Governor Jerry Brown lent his support to Hillary Clinton Tuesday, saying it was the only way to "stop the dangerous candidacy of Donald Trump."
California is the final battleground for Clinton, as prepares to clinch the nomination. But it has become an unexpectedly tight race between her and Bernie Sanders.

In an open letter to Democrats and independents in his state, which votes June 7, Brown said he was "deeply impressed" by how well Sanders has done and with his message of the growing divide between the wealthy and the rest of Americans.
But Clinton knows how to get things done and advance the Democratic agenda, the governor said.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/31/politics/jerry-brown-endorses-hillary-clinton/index.html?adkey=bn



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California Gov. Jerry Brown Endorses Hillary Clinton (Original Post) Surya Gayatri May 2016 OP
Hey, look! yallerdawg May 2016 #1
Under the bus with him!! ronnykmarshall May 2016 #3
Yep, add him to the enemies list SCantiGOP May 2016 #62
What enemies list? Does Hillary have one? Her supporters? cui bono Jun 2016 #156
No bus wallyworld2 May 2016 #69
Of course not for most. That refers to more Hortensis May 2016 #102
like I said wallyworld2 May 2016 #106
Blah. blah. blah. sulphurdunn May 2016 #134
Nice for Hillary: Brown and Bill didn't get along in the past lewebley3 May 2016 #70
What is this bus thing supposed to say to people? I'm in no way ashamed to throw people who endorse Ed Suspicious May 2016 #76
Their next WHAT? Just for shits and giggles, how about ... 11 Bravo May 2016 #94
You got me! Really strong move to go for the misspelling! Ed Suspicious May 2016 #96
The fact is, if you are able to admit it, every human being alive, every Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #127
Sooooooo ImaPolitico May 2016 #145
He's been criticized plenty already for allowing fracking. cui bono Jun 2016 #153
Gov. Brown is being shoved under the 4-wheeled conveyance as we speak! LOL! Surya Gayatri May 2016 #4
Most who are throwing him are not fit to tie his shoes. He has done more Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #128
I wonder if that's why she went out there a day early, instead of the reported.... George II May 2016 #2
Uh-oh! That's the final nail in the coffin for a certain someone. brush May 2016 #42
Guess he didn't get the memo from the Hillary brigade.... AlbertCat May 2016 #129
Bernie's voters could care less what Jerry Brown thinks or endorses. JDPriestly May 2016 #133
You just admitted they don't know shit about history. ronnykmarshall May 2016 #142
Neither do most Hlllary supporters. JDPriestly May 2016 #146
m too.e, OwlinAZ Jun 2016 #160
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow May 2016 #5
On his site..... Historic NY May 2016 #6
Thanks for posting. Excellent news... Surya Gayatri May 2016 #10
Clean, clear and simple. yallerdawg May 2016 #12
Condescending posts like yours kacekwl May 2016 #38
Condescending... ReRe May 2016 #72
Condescending? yallerdawg May 2016 #112
Some of us ablamj May 2016 #140
The full statement: George II May 2016 #7
Senator Sanders has an equally firm grasp of the issues. OwlinAZ Jun 2016 #158
Sanders may have an "equally firm grasp" of the issues, I'd say a number of people here.... George II Jun 2016 #166
This is really great news. ucrdem May 2016 #8
You link or pic is broken. riversedge May 2016 #18
Thanks, fixed it! ucrdem May 2016 #20
HUGE ENDORSMENT and another super delegate for hillary beachbum bob May 2016 #9
She may get there before June 7th with Puerto Rico, etc. Who knows? Surya Gayatri May 2016 #13
I rather keep it going thru June 7th for hillary's GOTV efforts but hey its happening beachbum bob May 2016 #14
Too bad Brown didn't run for president Democat May 2016 #11
He did turn California around. I think it was his age though. brush May 2016 #44
Much, much younger. I thought he WAS younger and said so downthread. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #48
Good question. Must be the stress, although how stressful has it been all those years . . . brush May 2016 #60
Vermont has to be one of the LEAST stressful gigs in politics... Surya Gayatri May 2016 #73
No question on Sanders. I too wish Brown could turn back the clock, especially after how he . . . brush May 2016 #75
But there are so many Post Offices to name!!! Walk away May 2016 #81
Brown ran in the late 70's for President CountAllVotes May 2016 #99
Been there, done that. Jerry Brown has an exceptional political resume ... Hekate Jun 2016 #151
Considering the bad blood there has been between Brown and The Clintons in the past RogueTrooper May 2016 #15
Exactly. MSNBC didn't wait 2 min. before airing that debate clip from 1992--between Jerry and Bill. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #17
That we could do without but it was always going to happen, sadly. RogueTrooper May 2016 #21
Yes, nasty of them to do that with the announcement. But people really do want to move FORWARD! riversedge May 2016 #29
Typical. MSNBC, at least during their daytime schedule, is decidedly anti-Clinton. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #32
Too Many People... LeFleur1 May 2016 #86
^^^This!^^^ LuckyLib May 2016 #97
Nailed it! sheshe2 May 2016 #114
I'm sure that no pressure was put on Jerry Brown. GoneOffShore May 2016 #143
What earthly kind of "pressure" do you think could be brought to bear on Gov. Brown? Hekate Jun 2016 #152
Link from CNN..... riversedge May 2016 #16
Thanks. Will do. Nothing on MSNBC yet. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #19
"Clinton knows how to get things done and advance the Democratic agenda" DesertRat May 2016 #49
So in summary spanzini May 2016 #22
He endorsed her 18 months ago unofficially. ucrdem May 2016 #24
No ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #79
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #23
They're flipping, but in the other direction. Bernie's ill-judged ego trip is NOT impressing them. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #25
This Jerry Brown? Ned_Devine May 2016 #26
yeah, THAT jerry shanti May 2016 #110
I liked him back in '92 though but was only 17 Ned_Devine May 2016 #115
yes shanti May 2016 #125
His head has become detached from his memory... MrMickeysMom May 2016 #144
Another Podesta connection EdwardBernays May 2016 #27
Jerry Brown is an Ace Democrat heavy hitter. Nobody has more California cred than he does. LuvLoogie May 2016 #50
She will not "get there" in pledged delegates... bkkyosemite May 2016 #28
I guess the 74-year-old Bernardo didn't impress the younger-looking, but older Brown Surya Gayatri May 2016 #30
Jerry Brown is 100% establishment these days. roody May 2016 #148
Haaaaaaaa shenmue Jun 2016 #163
I would have supported Jerry Brown over Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders given a choice and PufPuf23 May 2016 #31
Same willfully ignorant/misinformed drivel as everyone else. Triana May 2016 #33
Exactly, fasttense May 2016 #43
Yes, Jerry Brown is ignorant and you are brilliant Democat May 2016 #88
you use logical fallacies of appeal to authority and also false equivalency AntiBank May 2016 #108
And you just call people dump if they disagree with you Democat May 2016 #113
an endorsement of fear. nt retrowire May 2016 #34
Shaking in his boots, I'm sure...LOL! Surya Gayatri May 2016 #35
fear of trump. retrowire May 2016 #41
For all that Jerry Brown stood for and his stand as true progressive INdemo May 2016 #36
Selling Out to the Clintons CobaltBlue May 2016 #46
The weakness of the Democrats to stand up for principle OwlinAZ Jun 2016 #162
Jerry was voted back in after the Schwarzenegger LibDemAlways May 2016 #64
mind boggling, innit? shanti May 2016 #111
Do you guys GulfCoast66 May 2016 #136
He already disappointed when he allowed fracking. cui bono Jun 2016 #154
Or else. Android3.14 May 2016 #37
This is a big endorsement! DesertRat May 2016 #39
Yes it is! LuvLoogie May 2016 #53
He is a popular governor, and this will certainly sway people! nt anotherproletariat May 2016 #71
Unless you read chunks of this thread where we learn he's not a great progressive Blue_Adept May 2016 #85
Correct me if I am wrong and I am not. sheshe2 May 2016 #116
History repeats itself quite regularly around here. Blue_Adept May 2016 #117
Yes you are wrong. cui bono Jun 2016 #155
We're gonna need a bigger bus. nt msanthrope May 2016 #40
Or, at least a lot higher one! LOL! Surya Gayatri May 2016 #47
Clinton Uber Alles! bonemachine May 2016 #45
you do realise you just equated Clinton to being a Nazi fascist AntiBank May 2016 #104
Mostly bonemachine May 2016 #107
oki, just didn't think many had the chutzpah to go that far AntiBank May 2016 #109
Brown has sold out Robbins May 2016 #51
... Surya Gayatri May 2016 #58
You are repeating the first few responses to this thread SCantiGOP May 2016 #63
Or Brown is right and you're wrong? Democat May 2016 #91
Always a fan of this man. He's served Californians well. K&R Laser102 May 2016 #52
Love the Gov.! Surya Gayatri May 2016 #54
he's done many good things but his position on fracking is disgusting Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #82
Hhhm..." But Clinton knows how to get things done and advance the Democratic agenda"" vkkv May 2016 #55
They're pulling out all the stops in hopes of preventing that humiliating defeat in CA. frylock May 2016 #56
;) sheshe2 May 2016 #119
Yeah.. no. frylock May 2016 #120
... sheshe2 May 2016 #121
The kind of insightful analysis that I've come to expect. frylock May 2016 #122
I guess Brown is going under the bus now, too... Blue_Tires May 2016 #57
Yep, rolling around under there as we speak. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #59
Yes. He is under my bus. Anyone else who endorses oligarchy is next. Ed Suspicious May 2016 #77
I hope you learn to live with disappointment, then... Blue_Tires May 2016 #124
And I'm still voting for Sanders. Iggo May 2016 #61
From my twitter feed Gothmog May 2016 #65
What more need be said? The case for Clinton is clear. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #67
Exactly! sheshe2 May 2016 #118
Jerry Brown pulled California out of the ditch Schwarzenegger put it in. SunSeeker May 2016 #66
Most respected public figure in CA. People will hear this... Surya Gayatri May 2016 #68
he's been a disappointment with my mother PatrynXX May 2016 #74
Brown is worse than Reagan and Arnie Democat May 2016 #93
Hey sweetie from cross the pond! Iliyah May 2016 #78
He's said and done exactly the right thing. Lov the Gov.! Surya Gayatri May 2016 #84
If Hillary loses to Trump, we can blame all her establishment support like Gov. Brown, right? Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #80
If the Berning One carries on with his ego-tastic, quixotic, but doomed quest, Surya Gayatri May 2016 #87
he hasn't crippled anything yet Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #103
Gov. Brown is Now on the List with Paul Krugman and Tom Hayden McKim May 2016 #83
And, the "dead to me" figurative corpses continue to pile up...higher and higher. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #90
Can't tell if this post is sarcasm or not? Democat May 2016 #95
This is a big endorsement for Hillary. herding cats May 2016 #89
I really admire Brown. However I'm not with him on this one! hollowdweller May 2016 #92
Dear Californians Carolina May 2016 #98
We'll send you Bernie, he's a super-delegate, but the choice is between Trump and Clinton. ucrdem May 2016 #100
Sad choice Carolina May 2016 #105
Party Insiders SusanLarson May 2016 #101
Ridiculous statement. Kingofalldems May 2016 #123
It has always been so. OwlinAZ Jun 2016 #161
Very happy to give it a REC riversedge May 2016 #126
two peas in a pod. nt mhatrw May 2016 #130
Latest Poll jamese777 May 2016 #131
one outlier poll OwlinAZ Jun 2016 #159
Not surprising. Jerry Brown is great in many ways, but both he and Hillary are JDPriestly May 2016 #132
Hear a huge sucking sound? SmittynMo May 2016 #135
Woo, Hoo! ImaPolitico May 2016 #137
Thank you Gov. Jerry Brown… ImaPolitico May 2016 #138
And in other news they just allowed fracking. glinda May 2016 #139
well, of course he does! ish of the hammer May 2016 #141
No surprise here roody May 2016 #147
KnR to my very popular governor, the great Jerry Brown Hekate Jun 2016 #149
Bill Clinton apparently went begging moondust Jun 2016 #150
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Jun 2016 #167
Selling Californai Forests, Fracking for oil on land hopemountain Jun 2016 #157
Tsk tsk Jerry. Califonz Jun 2016 #164
Another wonderful endorsement! Amimnoch Jun 2016 #165

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
156. What enemies list? Does Hillary have one? Her supporters?
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 01:13 AM
Jun 2016

There are no Bernie supporters I know of who have enemies lists Bernie supporters are more nuanced than that. They understand critical thinking and analysis and don't think that anyone who disagrees or criticizes is a "hater".

.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
102. Of course not for most. That refers to more
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:24 PM
May 2016

radical, far left types who divide the world into those who are with them and those who are against, then do battle. They tend to be rather...changeable because to them "with" mostly means all in. In spite of everything they say they want, that America had before the GOP dismantled much of it, having its roots in liberalism, they despise liberals. Not conservatives, liberals.

As Barney Frank said of Bernie Sanders a couple decades ago, for them there's no such thing as honest disagreement. Those who disagree are corrupt and not part of the solution.

In spite of at least a couple hundred radicals who found a home at DU, they are mercifully solidly in the minority in the real world.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
134. Blah. blah. blah.
Tue May 31, 2016, 07:09 PM
May 2016

In case you hadn't noticed, "the real world" is running full throttle for a cliff. People like Trump and Clinton take turns at the wheel. When the train plunges into the abyss they'll jump with the strong box and let true believers like you take the plunge. You can count on it.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
76. What is this bus thing supposed to say to people? I'm in no way ashamed to throw people who endorse
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:09 PM
May 2016

Last edited Tue May 31, 2016, 12:40 PM - Edit history (1)

a candidate who serves her own interest before mine and the interests of my friends under the bus. So yeah. Under the bus he goes for me. I hope others take note. They're next.


UNDER THE BUS!

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
127. The fact is, if you are able to admit it, every human being alive, every
Tue May 31, 2016, 06:06 PM
May 2016

institution on the planet, will go under the bus if it or them dont support your insistence that it be Bernie or bust.

Now, if you personally are not Bernie or Bust, then so be it, but you know damn well what I mean.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
153. He's been criticized plenty already for allowing fracking.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 12:58 AM
Jun 2016

This is not the same Jerry Brown from before. I don't know what happened to him. Sad.

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Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
128. Most who are throwing him are not fit to tie his shoes. He has done more
Tue May 31, 2016, 06:08 PM
May 2016

for liberal and progressive ideals and human beings than all of these here put together.

The ONLY way you can so easily attack a Jerry Brown or anyone else they attack, is if they were not fans in the first place.

Which tells us volumes.

George II

(67,782 posts)
2. I wonder if that's why she went out there a day early, instead of the reported....
Tue May 31, 2016, 09:22 AM
May 2016

..."attempt to avoid an embarrassing loss"?

Jerry Brown has been a very popular public official in California for decades. Very good endorsement.

PS - CNN just reported this too!



brush

(53,792 posts)
42. Uh-oh! That's the final nail in the coffin for a certain someone.
Tue May 31, 2016, 10:32 AM
May 2016

Jerry Brown is very popular in California. His endorsement of Hillary means a lot.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
129. Guess he didn't get the memo from the Hillary brigade....
Tue May 31, 2016, 06:22 PM
May 2016

..... that they don't need no stinking' CA.

It's been all over the place here.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
133. Bernie's voters could care less what Jerry Brown thinks or endorses.
Tue May 31, 2016, 06:40 PM
May 2016

They are for Bernie. Jerry Brown isn't even a name to most Bernie supporters who are, many, many of them new to politics.

I like Jerry Brown but he is wrong about Hillary (although for political purposes I can understand why he is now endorsing her -- a rather late endorsement probably also due to political considerations) and about fracking. Also appointed some lousy people to the Coastal Commission and a couple of other commissions.

But generally, he saved California from destitution by placing a ballot measure to raise taxes and repay our debts after the disastrous borrow and spend regime of Schwarzenegger.

Nobody is right all the time. That goes for Jerry Brown.

He is quite wrong about Hillary.

I'm glad that he waited until the very last minute to make this politically calculated endorsement. Californian's see through this.

Hillary has a lot of power and will wield it to harm people who don't endorse her.

Bernie has the people and a lot of love.

We shall see whether power trumps love or love trumps power.

Apparently in so far as Jerry Brown is concerned, power trumps love which could mean that Trump trumps in November. Sorry to say that but it is true.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
146. Neither do most Hlllary supporters.
Tue May 31, 2016, 09:44 PM
May 2016

And the Trump supporters know the least of all.

I'm not a historian, but I love history.

kacekwl

(7,017 posts)
38. Condescending posts like yours
Tue May 31, 2016, 10:24 AM
May 2016

really bug me. The choice is for president and for me it is easy but may not be the one we end up with, and that will be very hard to do.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
72. Condescending...
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:03 PM
May 2016

... that's the exact word that describes our colleagues who reside on the right side of our Party. This is how we should handle the hateful snides:
When people look down their nose at us, don't look up to them.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
112. Condescending?
Tue May 31, 2016, 03:28 PM
May 2016

You know what they say.

"A kicked dog howls loudest."

Fellow Democrats - like Jerry Brown - find no difficulty in supporting the Democratic nominee.

If you belong in some other tent - ours isn't big enough for you - I guess you need to decide where you do belong?

ablamj

(333 posts)
140. Some of us
Tue May 31, 2016, 08:37 PM
May 2016

who are left leaning independents and who have always voted for the Democrat want no part of a party led by Hilary Clinton. We know where we belong #notwithher

George II

(67,782 posts)
7. The full statement:
Tue May 31, 2016, 09:30 AM
May 2016

An Open Letter to California Democrats and Independents

POSTED BY JERRY BROWN 26PC ON MAY 31, 2016

On Tuesday, June 7, I have decided to cast my vote for Hillary Clinton because I believe this is the only path forward to win the presidency and stop the dangerous candidacy of Donald Trump.

I have closely watched the primaries and am deeply impressed with how well Bernie Sanders has done. He has driven home the message that the top one percent has unfairly captured way too much of America’s wealth, leaving the majority of people far behind. In 1992, I attempted a similar campaign.

For her part, Hillary Clinton has convincingly made the case that she knows how to get things done and has the tenacity and skill to advance the Democratic agenda. Voters have responded by giving her approximately 3 million more votes – and hundreds more delegates – than Sanders. If Clinton were to win only 10 percent of the remaining delegates – wildly improbable – she would still exceed the number needed for the nomination. In other words, Clinton’s lead is insurmountable and Democrats have shown – by millions of votes – that they want her as their nominee.

But there is more at stake than mere numbers. The Republican nominee, Donald Trump, has called climate change a “hoax” and said he will tear up the Paris Climate Agreement. He has promised to deport millions of immigrants and ominously suggested that other countries may need the nuclear bomb. He has also pledged to pack the Supreme Court with only those who please the extreme right.

The stakes couldn’t be higher. Our country faces an existential threat from climate change and the spread of nuclear weapons. A new cold war is on the horizon. This is no time for Democrats to keep fighting each other. The general election has already begun. Hillary Clinton, with her long experience, especially as Secretary of State, has a firm grasp of the issues and will be prepared to lead our country on day one.

Next January, I want to be sure that it is Hillary Clinton who takes the oath of office, not Donald Trump.

With respect,

Jerry Brown

 

OwlinAZ

(410 posts)
158. Senator Sanders has an equally firm grasp of the issues.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 03:35 AM
Jun 2016

also, the character and trustworthiness to command the respect of other nations and the American people.
Mrs. Clinton's self serving nature does not command respect. Her past judgments do not recommend her for the leader of the free world. Sanders has consistently out polled Clinton in opposition to Trump even in the face of media opposition.
You are wrong to endorse Clinton, Gov. Brown.

George II

(67,782 posts)
166. Sanders may have an "equally firm grasp" of the issues, I'd say a number of people here....
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:41 AM
Jun 2016

....have an equally firm grasp of the issues. But he's been unable to demonstrate over the last 25 that he has the leadership to actually do anything substantive in his career. He's a follower, not a leader.

How Sanders does in a mythical match up is irrelevant, those polls serve virtually no point. There have been about 45 polls that ARE relevant, primaries and caucuses. Hillary Clinton has come out the clear winner with respect to delegates AND popular votes. She has defeated Sanders by 13% in the popular vote and about 10% delegate-wise. That's how we choose nominees in the Democratic Party, not via some hypothetical poll.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
9. HUGE ENDORSMENT and another super delegate for hillary
Tue May 31, 2016, 09:31 AM
May 2016

many congrats to Jerry for supporting our presidential nominee....and surviving the countless threats and harassment by some sanders supporters....who are ONLY ensuring hillary's nomination by their antics


72 more delegates to go!!! may happen before June 7th

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
14. I rather keep it going thru June 7th for hillary's GOTV efforts but hey its happening
Tue May 31, 2016, 09:39 AM
May 2016

and happening quick. MY guess she needs about 2 dozen more SD come in for her between now and virgin Islands and Puerto Rico as she will most likely get about 50 +/-


if those 2 dozen do come in this next few days...I suspect we could see an avalanche of what remains unpledged to hillary

brush

(53,792 posts)
44. He did turn California around. I think it was his age though.
Tue May 31, 2016, 10:38 AM
May 2016

He's a couple of years older than Sanders.

He looks younger though.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
48. Much, much younger. I thought he WAS younger and said so downthread.
Tue May 31, 2016, 10:47 AM
May 2016

Wow, Bernardo looks 10-15 years older than Jerry, easy. In fact, St. Bernard looks much closer to 80 than 70. Wonder why.

brush

(53,792 posts)
60. Good question. Must be the stress, although how stressful has it been all those years . . .
Tue May 31, 2016, 11:18 AM
May 2016

representing Vermont?

Maybe it's this last year.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
73. Vermont has to be one of the LEAST stressful gigs in politics...
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:04 PM
May 2016

No racial tensions to speak of, bucolic rural spaces.

Compare that to running California!

brush

(53,792 posts)
75. No question on Sanders. I too wish Brown could turn back the clock, especially after how he . . .
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:07 PM
May 2016

turned California around.

Hekate

(90,717 posts)
151. Been there, done that. Jerry Brown has an exceptional political resume ...
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 12:40 AM
Jun 2016

...and where he is right now is fantastic.

LeFleur1

(1,197 posts)
86. Too Many People...
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:22 PM
May 2016

...don't realize that Hillary ISN'T Bill. Too many still view woman as appendages of the men they are married to.

GoneOffShore

(17,340 posts)
143. I'm sure that no pressure was put on Jerry Brown.
Tue May 31, 2016, 09:10 PM
May 2016

Nope, nothing at all.
Not a thing.
No threats.
No intimidation.
No 'well, wait until after November' words.

Nothing.

Hekate

(90,717 posts)
152. What earthly kind of "pressure" do you think could be brought to bear on Gov. Brown?
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 12:44 AM
Jun 2016

Take all our water away? Refuse to let us supply 25% of the nation's food? Take away Silicon Valley?

riversedge

(70,245 posts)
16. Link from CNN.....
Tue May 31, 2016, 09:47 AM
May 2016

You are welcome to use in OP if you want





http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/31/politics/jerry-brown-endorses-hillary-clinton/index.html?adkey=bn

California governor Brown endorses Clinton

By Tami Luhby

Updated 9:38 AM ET, Tue May 31, 2016
Story highlights

The primary is June 7
The race between Clinton and Sanders is close

(CNN)California Governor Jerry Brown lent his support to Hillary Clinton Tuesday, saying it was the only way to "stop the dangerous candidacy of Donald Trump."
California is the final battleground for Clinton, as prepares to clinch the nomination. But it has become an unexpectedly tight race between her and Bernie Sanders.

In an open letter to Democrats and independents in his state, which votes June 7, Brown said he was "deeply impressed" by how well Sanders has done and with his message of the growing divide between the wealthy and the rest of Americans.
But Clinton knows how to get things done and advance the Democratic agenda, the governor said.

 

spanzini

(17 posts)
22. So in summary
Tue May 31, 2016, 09:51 AM
May 2016

Like most Democrats he is impressed with Bernie's message but would rather just support the party because Republicans are so evil and bad.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
24. He endorsed her 18 months ago unofficially.
Tue May 31, 2016, 09:55 AM
May 2016

I heard him say it in an NPR interview and there was no wiggle room in his statement.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
79. No ...
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:16 PM
May 2016

He is impressed with Bernie's message; but ...

For her part, Hillary Clinton has convincingly made the case that she knows how to get things done and has the tenacity and skill to advance the Democratic agenda.


And ...

Voters have responded by giving her approximately 3 million more votes – and hundreds more delegates – than Sanders. If Clinton were to win only 10 percent of the remaining delegates – wildly improbable – she would still exceed the number needed for the nomination. In other words, Clinton’s lead is insurmountable and Democrats have shown – by millions of votes – that they want her as their nominee.


The "republicans are so evil and bad" part is parenthetical.

Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
115. I liked him back in '92 though but was only 17
Tue May 31, 2016, 03:48 PM
May 2016

Paul Tsongas from my state was running too, but I thought Jerry Brown was a good candidate back then.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
125. yes
Tue May 31, 2016, 06:03 PM
May 2016

he was the first candidate that i ever voted for - 1974 - governor of California. i voted for him every other time after that too. but he has now shown that he is one of them, "with her," and that pisses me off mightily. true, he took care of the budget well this time, but fracking? NO BUENO! that's a deal breaker for me!

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
27. Another Podesta connection
Tue May 31, 2016, 10:00 AM
May 2016

D.C. lobbyist to host Jerry Brown fund-raiser

Thursday night, Brown will be feted at the home of D.C. Lobbyist Tony Podesta, brother of former White House Chief of Staff John Podesta.

The site also says Podesta is “active with the Democratic Governors Assn. and maintains close relationships with governors from coast to coast.”

The DGA spent nearly $500,000 on Brown’s behalf in 2010 through an independent expenditure committee.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/california-politics/2012/02/jerry-brown-washington-lobbyist-fundraiser-barack-obama.html

John Podesta is of course Clinton's campaign chairman and the Podesta's lobbying firm in DC is a major bundler for Hillary. They represent everyone from weapons manufacturers to big pharma to Saudi Arabia.

Why would anyone be surprised that someone like Brown is trying to keep his campaign donors onside?

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
30. I guess the 74-year-old Bernardo didn't impress the younger-looking, but older Brown
Tue May 31, 2016, 10:03 AM
May 2016

as being able to take on the Trump menace.

PufPuf23

(8,793 posts)
31. I would have supported Jerry Brown over Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders given a choice and
Tue May 31, 2016, 10:04 AM
May 2016

supported Brown for POTUS in 76, 80, and 92.

Brown recognizes the danger of Trump that we Democrats share.

Brown recognizes the inevitable of Hillary Clinton and is complimentary regards Sanders.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
33. Same willfully ignorant/misinformed drivel as everyone else.
Tue May 31, 2016, 10:08 AM
May 2016

I keep asking myself: "OK. So they SAY Hillary "knows how to get things done". But for WHOM?" I think THAT is the relevant question. BOTH of them can "get things done". The question is WHO they will be doing things FOR.

If the goddamned corprat media would ask a few questions - for instance THAT question, then we'd have some clarity on the subject, wouldn't we? I dare say we would.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
43. Exactly,
Tue May 31, 2016, 10:34 AM
May 2016

The fracking of the California coastline shall now continue.

Vote for the lesser of 2 evils and you are still voting for evil.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
88. Yes, Jerry Brown is ignorant and you are brilliant
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:26 PM
May 2016

Any Democrat who doesn't agree with you is wrong and stupid.

It's never that you might be wrong.

 

AntiBank

(1,339 posts)
108. you use logical fallacies of appeal to authority and also false equivalency
Tue May 31, 2016, 03:02 PM
May 2016

but thanks for playing

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
41. fear of trump.
Tue May 31, 2016, 10:28 AM
May 2016

You don't consider that boot shaking worthy?

Lol he said it himself, it's to avoid Trump.

You're touchy. Lol

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
36. For all that Jerry Brown stood for and his stand as true progressive
Tue May 31, 2016, 10:18 AM
May 2016

with his run for President back in the 70's this is very disappointing.
Hillary is losing California so I would be curious just how much Bill and Hillary had to beg for Gov. Brown's endorsement and what the payback might be if Hillary wins?

 

CobaltBlue

(1,122 posts)
46. Selling Out to the Clintons
Tue May 31, 2016, 10:41 AM
May 2016

Nearly everyone in the Democratic Party, as current and former officeholders, have sold out for what should be called the Clinton Party.

It's been an amazing year for this.

In the meantime, issues like Climate Change and Income Inequality (which I prefer to label as Deficient Income), are ignored by Republicans, in general, who have completely prostituted their party for the sake of wealth and power.

It is not difficult to understand why there are people who choose to not vote.

 

OwlinAZ

(410 posts)
162. The weakness of the Democrats to stand up for principle
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 03:49 AM
Jun 2016

and fail to defend their own, has broken my heart many a time. Even if Clinton is the nominee, we will survive as a Party but further weakened.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
64. Jerry was voted back in after the Schwarzenegger
Tue May 31, 2016, 11:34 AM
May 2016

clusterfuck when the state was in the financial toilet. By comparison, he's done a decent job with the budget. But the infrastructure still sucks. Education funding lags. Homelessness is not being addressed. The divide between the haves and have nots is huge. The cost of living is astronomical. Public college tuition is too high. Covered California, the state's ACA insurance exchange, is expensive and, from personal experience, pretty useless.

Brown is certainly not a progressive activist fighting to improve the everyday lives of ordinary Californians, so it's not surprising he'd endorse the moderate/center right candidate who has no bold ideas. California Democrats are by and large a progressive bunch who will ignore this, as they will ignore the rightwing rag LA Times Hillary endorsement. Bernie will win here next week.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
111. mind boggling, innit?
Tue May 31, 2016, 03:24 PM
May 2016

what do these dinosaurs (boxer, difi, frank, etc.) have to gain by endorsing hillary at their ages? are they protecting something/someone?

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
136. Do you guys
Tue May 31, 2016, 07:52 PM
May 2016

Ever stop to think that maybe, just maybe people support Clinton because they think she is a stronger candidate and will make a better president? Instead it is always what do they have to gain/who are they protecting as your post stated. They may be wrong, but that is their belief.

And ignoring your somewhat ageist comment perhaps they come to the opinion that Clinton is better thru decades of experience?

That sure sums up my position. I like them both but used my 50 years of experience and what limited wisdom I might have accumulated and decided Clinton is the best candidate and will be a more effective candidate.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
154. He already disappointed when he allowed fracking.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 12:59 AM
Jun 2016

He's definitely NOT the same guy. He's changed a lot.

.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
85. Unless you read chunks of this thread where we learn he's not a great progressive
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:22 PM
May 2016

and hasn't done enough to turn around the clusterfuck that Arnold left quick enough.

"I want it fixed and I want it fixed now" without any understanding of how government works...

sheshe2

(83,793 posts)
116. Correct me if I am wrong and I am not.
Tue May 31, 2016, 04:04 PM
May 2016

That is the exact same thing that they said about Obama. It's almost like an echo or a blast from the past.

Thanks for your post Blue_Adept.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
117. History repeats itself quite regularly around here.
Tue May 31, 2016, 04:12 PM
May 2016

It makes it comical for us long timers. Admittedly, it just makes me snarkier simply because it's all so familiar.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
155. Yes you are wrong.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 01:07 AM
Jun 2016

Brown and Obama are criticized for their policies. Brown has allowed fracking for one, which is hugely detrimental to the environment and you'd think we have enough earthquakes out here. He used to be very liberal but this time around he's not that liberal at all.

Obama is a moderate Republican, he has said so himself. His policies are centrist and corporate friendly. He sold out to big pharma and put the public option out to pasture and didn't even try for single payer. He had private meetings with big pharma and never listened to a peep from single payer advocates. He expanded spying on American citizens. He has prosecuted more whistleblowers than all other presidents combined. He offered to cut social security. He called torturers patriots. He enacted more free trade deals. He wants the TPP passed.

So yes, you are wrong because you refuse to digest critical analysis and believe that anyone who criticizes a politician is a hater. You don't seem to hold dear any of the policy stances and principles that the Democratic Party is supposed to stand for because you blindly support someone who does not uphold them, thereby throwing your principles away assuming you were critical of Bush when he did the above.

Not good enough, sheshe2.

.

bonemachine

(757 posts)
107. Mostly
Tue May 31, 2016, 03:02 PM
May 2016

I think my brain is just hardwired at this point... Every time I hear Jerry Browns name, this song pops into my head.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
51. Brown has sold out
Tue May 31, 2016, 11:04 AM
May 2016

par for course for so called progressives.

CLinton gets things done? if your part 1% then yes.but for those parts of 99% then no.

this explains why poll workers are giving out bad information.

Brown now opposes everything bernie stands for and fights for.you can't support CLinton and support bernie ideas.

for those cheering let's see if you will when president trump is in office next year.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
63. You are repeating the first few responses to this thread
Tue May 31, 2016, 11:28 AM
May 2016

The 'throw him under the bus' and 'add him to the enemies list' very predictable responses.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
82. he's done many good things but his position on fracking is disgusting
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:17 PM
May 2016

I guess it fits with Hillary's love of fracking too...

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
55. Hhhm..." But Clinton knows how to get things done and advance the Democratic agenda""
Tue May 31, 2016, 11:14 AM
May 2016

If she isn't indicted by the remaining GOP-led House.

The Republi-Scums will never stop chomping at her heels... She's a Clinton.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
56. They're pulling out all the stops in hopes of preventing that humiliating defeat in CA.
Tue May 31, 2016, 11:14 AM
May 2016

Too bad it's not going to work.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
120. Yeah.. no.
Tue May 31, 2016, 04:22 PM
May 2016

We all know out here that Bernie's got this. I think it's pretty obvious that based upon the behavior of Camp Weathervain that they know Bernie has got this as well.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
66. Jerry Brown pulled California out of the ditch Schwarzenegger put it in.
Tue May 31, 2016, 11:51 AM
May 2016

He knows what it takes to govern. He's put the largest state economy in the nation (if California was a country it would be among the top ten economies in the world) back on a sound footing after being deeply in the red. He is extremely popular in California. The fact that this man has chosen to endorse Hillary is not only a great honor but it also carries great weight in Califirnia.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
74. he's been a disappointment with my mother
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:06 PM
May 2016

so far he's proven to be the protector of animal abusers and wants to keep people in prisons. X_X and I thought Arnie was bad and we've thought this for since about a year in to him being Governor He's not the same Jerry Brown from back in the day. (kinda like Terry Brandstad in Iowa. who at least I could count on being an old time Republican. then the stupid Iowacare came out and he went Tea Party and nothing but problems since. To say this is no surprise is an understatement.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
84. He's said and done exactly the right thing. Lov the Gov.!
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:18 PM
May 2016

How are things in the Golden State? Do you think she'll pull it out?

The Berning One is out-spending her by 2 to 1, as usual. And, he's been living out in CA for the last month, having given up on New Jersey.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
80. If Hillary loses to Trump, we can blame all her establishment support like Gov. Brown, right?
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:17 PM
May 2016

Obviously, their great wisdom tells us she is the best bet.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
87. If the Berning One carries on with his ego-tastic, quixotic, but doomed quest,
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:24 PM
May 2016

we'll have him to blame for crippling the Dem Party through his blind ambition, just before a crucial GE.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
103. he hasn't crippled anything yet
Tue May 31, 2016, 02:19 PM
May 2016

if he doesn't get the nom, and then makes trouble for Hillary, yes, we can blame him too.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
83. Gov. Brown is Now on the List with Paul Krugman and Tom Hayden
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:17 PM
May 2016

These guys sold us out. Very sad when our "progressive" leaders betray us. Vote bravely, California. If she wins, the body counts in the Middle East will be a lot longer. She will spend our money on war and not social goods.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
92. I really admire Brown. However I'm not with him on this one!
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:29 PM
May 2016

I think he's a great public figure and has done a great job in CA.

Carolina

(6,960 posts)
98. Dear Californians
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:54 PM
May 2016

Please do the right thing. You elected Ronald Reagan governor and from there, he was able to launch a presidential bid in 1976 and 1980. He went from unremarkable actor, to shilling for GE, to CA governor to the POTUS who started us on this disastrous oligarchic, corporatist slide to hell.

Next Tuesday, PLEASE don't vote for HRC out of the fear promulgated in Brown's statement. Please send US the anti-Reagan, the man of real hope and change.

Vote for Bernie Sanders. Send a message to the third way, to the bought and paid for (bribed) DINOs, to the establishment, to those in the Democratic party who want you to vote AGAINST the opposition rather than FOR someone you can believe in, to those who want you to vote your fear -- a fear that maintains the status quo, to those who say one more time... vote for the not so lesser of two evils.

This time there is a real choice between Wall Street Red and Wall Street Blue and his name is Bernie Sanders.

Do what you can to START undoing Reagan!

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
100. We'll send you Bernie, he's a super-delegate, but the choice is between Trump and Clinton.
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:12 PM
May 2016

And as a British DUer pointed out to me this morning, the whole world is watching.

Carolina

(6,960 posts)
105. Sad choice
Tue May 31, 2016, 02:59 PM
May 2016

She's awful, owned and beholden to Goldmann Sachs, Big Pharma, the blood sucking Health Insurance behemoths, and the earth destroying fossil fuel and fracking industry. She's an MIC corporatist who supported IWR and regime change in Honduras, Libya, Syria with all the associated death, debt, destruction and destabilization.

jamese777

(546 posts)
131. Latest Poll
Tue May 31, 2016, 06:26 PM
May 2016

Just released:
Hoover Institution Golden State Poll: Clinton +13 Over Sanders; Harris, Sanchez Lead Senate Field
Tuesday, May 31, 2016
Hoover Institution, Stanford University

STANFORD, CA: With California’s June 7 primary only a week away, a new Hoover Institution Golden State Poll finds Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump with large leads in their respective primaries but cautionary signs lay ahead and good news for Democratic U.S. Senate hopefuls Kamala Harris and Loretta Sanchez.

Hoover’s Golden State Poll, administered by the survey research firm YouGov and designed in conjunction with Stanford University’s Bill Lane Center for the American West, finds Clinton holding a 13-point lead over U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders (51 percent to 38 percent).
http://www.hoover.org/press-releases/hoover-institution-golden-state-poll-clinton-13-over-sanders-harris-sanchez-lead

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
132. Not surprising. Jerry Brown is great in many ways, but both he and Hillary are
Tue May 31, 2016, 06:33 PM
May 2016

wrong on fracking.

Bernie is right on fracking.

ImaPolitico

(150 posts)
137. Woo, Hoo!
Tue May 31, 2016, 08:11 PM
May 2016

Have always supported Gov Jerry Brown back then and still do to this day.
Gov Brown knows a winner when he sees one!

Thank you Gov Jerry Brown! Whatta guy.

ImaPolitico

(150 posts)
138. Thank you Gov. Jerry Brown…
Tue May 31, 2016, 08:17 PM
May 2016

…from my great state of SoCal…and….from a displaced SoCalifornian…..

“Hillary Clinton, with her long experience, especially as Secretary of State, has a firm grasp of the issues and will be prepared to lead our country on day one,” Brown wrote. “Next January, I want to be sure that it is Hillary Clinton who takes the oath of office, not Donald Trump.”


Bravo to Gov Brown!!

moondust

(19,993 posts)
150. Bill Clinton apparently went begging
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 12:22 AM
Jun 2016

for Brown's endorsement last week according to the scenario Steve Kornacke laid out tonight on TRMS. Brown owed the Clintons for helping him win CA governor. If Brown were to refuse to return the favor by endorsing Clinton and then she wins the WH, things could get tough for Brown and CA if he were to end up on the Clintons' enemy list.

Realpolitik.

Response to moondust (Reply #150)

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
157. Selling Californai Forests, Fracking for oil on land
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 02:09 AM
Jun 2016

and off the coast - jerry brown's environmental policies are just as destructive as Hillary's.

jerry brown has sold out california's resources to corporate interests.

a sad day for indigenous people's of california and all of the living creatures that dwell upon her forests, waters, and land.

"San Francisco, Oct. 17 – Governor Jerry Brown of California was slated to receive the Blue Green Alliance’s Right Stuff award for environmentalism in San Francisco this evening but did not show up perhaps because he knew it was going to be protested. Outside of the awards ceremony at the Parc 55 Hotel, people protested including Tom Goldtooth, Executive Director of the Indigenous Environmental Network who read the following statement.San Francisco, Oct. 17 – Governor Jerry Brown of California was slated to receive the Blue Green Alliance’s Right Stuff award for environmentalism in San Francisco this evening but did not show up perhaps because he knew it was going to be protested. Outside of the awards ceremony at the Parc 55 Hotel, people protested including Tom Goldtooth, Executive Director of the Indigenous Environmental Network who read the following statement." statement at link below.

http://www.ienearth.org/press-statement-tom-goldtooth-behind-the-backs-of-the-people-of-california/

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