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Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:22 PM May 2016

San Francisco police fatally shoot black woman

Source: Reuters

San Francisco police fatally shoot black woman
By Curtis Skinner

May 19, 2016

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - A black woman was fatally shot on Thursday by a San Francisco police officer checking on a stolen vehicle, marking another killing for a department faced with public outrage over fatal police shootings and a federal review.

San Francisco Police Chief Greg Suhr told reporters that around 9:45 a.m. local time two officers approached the 27-year-old woman as she sat in a car that was identified as stolen. Neither the woman nor the officers have been identified.

The woman tried to drive off, crashing into another vehicle fewer than 100 feet away. She was shot by one of the officers, a sergeant, after refusing to comply with their orders, Suhr said. She was fatally wounded and later died at an area hospital.

. . .

The use of lethal force by U.S. police, especially by white officers against African-Americans and other minorities, has been the focus of nationwide protests.

Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/san-francisco-police-fatally-shoot-black-woman-221737144--nfl.html?nhp=1

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San Francisco police fatally shoot black woman (Original Post) Judi Lynn May 2016 OP
San Francisco Police Chief Greg Suhr resigns after killing of woman n2doc May 2016 #1
Well, that's a step. WhiteTara May 2016 #2
Well, that's show biz. JustABozoOnThisBus May 2016 #5
Firing a guy who will accept a request for resignation Spacedog1973 May 2016 #13
arresting the police officer who shot her would also help the healing. olddad56 May 2016 #3
I wonder how all of this could have been avoided... TipTok May 2016 #8
Disband the police? PersonNumber503602 May 2016 #9
That reminds me of anti vaxxer logic... TipTok May 2016 #10
Ban doctors? PersonNumber503602 May 2016 #11
I think your logic isn't exactly that great Spacedog1973 May 2016 #14
The difference is that drugs, cars and planes are all physical objects... TipTok May 2016 #17
kick Liberal_in_LA May 2016 #4
So just to summarize Prism May 2016 #6
This has happened way too many times Benitos May 2016 #7
What would have happened if she wasn't driving around in a stolen car, jeopardizing Kang Colby May 2016 #12
logic escapes some people SpookyDem May 2016 #15
Woman killed by SFPO.... Dont call me Shirley May 2016 #16

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
1. San Francisco Police Chief Greg Suhr resigns after killing of woman
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:13 PM
May 2016

San Francisco Police Chief Greg Suhr resigned Thursday, hours after a city officer killed a woman at the edge of the Bayview neighborhood and after he was asked to step down by Mayor Ed Lee.

At a City Hall news conference, Lee said he hoped to “heal the city” amid outrage over recent police killings of people of color and revelations that a number of officers had exchanged racist and homophobic text messages.

“The progress we have made has been meaningful but it hasn’t been fast enough, not for me and not for Greg, and that’s why I have asked Chief Suhr for his resignation,” Lee said in remarks that lasted five minutes.

Lee named as acting police chief Toney Chaplin, 47, who was a deputy chief. The announcement came after Lee and Suhr met for hours in Lee’s office, with the departing chief exiting a side door without speaking to reporters. Chaplin stood at Lee’s side during the news conference.

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http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Police-Chief-Greg-Suhr-resigns-after-killing-of-7758122.php

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
5. Well, that's show biz.
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:50 PM
May 2016

Fire the guy who didn't pull the trigger.

I guess it comes down to who has the stronger union: the cops, or the chief.

But, someone got thrown under the bus, so the situation is fine now.

Spacedog1973

(221 posts)
13. Firing a guy who will accept a request for resignation
Sun May 22, 2016, 12:33 PM
May 2016

Is a meaningful action within the context of an institutionally criminal justice system and a union that protects corrupt cops. This also isn't a random 'guy who didn't pull the trigger'. Nor is it really important in the grander scheme of things that a low level 'grunt' gets fired. That never changes a thing. When people in positions of power are required to resign because of the political environment brought about by organisations such as BLM, it is a direct acknowledgement by those in power, that things need to change.

The phrase; 'Someone being thrown under the bus', simply doesn't pass the smell test for me and sounds mealy-mouthed. Bosses take responsibility for the actions of their subordinates all the time. This is no different and someone's pointless death certainly is more serious than most reasons bosses are required to resign on behalf of their employees.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
3. arresting the police officer who shot her would also help the healing.
Fri May 20, 2016, 01:48 AM
May 2016

It hurts every time a cop gets away with murder.

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
10. That reminds me of anti vaxxer logic...
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:13 PM
May 2016

One in a million bad interactions...

Better scrap the whole idea...

How about something realistic?

Spacedog1973

(221 posts)
14. I think your logic isn't exactly that great
Sun May 22, 2016, 12:43 PM
May 2016

I mean, it would seem more logical if 'one in a million bad interactions ' related to, police stops, profiling, lying under oath, corrupt prosecutors, threatening behaviour by police to minorities, etc, etc. Any Liberal worth anything, would know the rest.

On the other hand, if we categorise this as one of the 'one in a million bad interactions' it still becomes worthy of scrutiny. After all, we ground planes on even rarer and ambiguous data. We do the same with drugs, with cars, with many items which are found to have caused harm; we withdraw them until we understand the reason why they caused harm.

A 'realistic' solution is always to examine the root causes and to address them. This is hardly complicated, nor is this a new concern or one that doesn't have a huge array of possible solutions, some of which have been broadcast by those running for the POTUS. Again, confusion is misplaced on an apparently democratic forum filled with self proclaimed enlightened individuals, who on face value are ignorant to the point of embarrassment.

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
17. The difference is that drugs, cars and planes are all physical objects...
Sun May 22, 2016, 04:23 PM
May 2016

... created by man. We know what they will do.

10,000s of police departments with 100,000s of human police having untold number of interactions with other humans (many of whom are unfriendly towards LE) will results on some bad things.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
6. So just to summarize
Sat May 21, 2016, 12:29 PM
May 2016

Not armed, the car is out of commission (the one thing that could have been a threat), and then they shot her?

Yeah.

Even as short as five years ago, it used to be that San Francisco cops were assholes, but Oakland cops were the ones you have to worry about. So nice of them to be playing catch up.

This feels like a straw, though. I believe, finally, Mayor Lee is feeling personally threatened by this. Good. He should.

 

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
12. What would have happened if she wasn't driving around in a stolen car, jeopardizing
Sun May 22, 2016, 12:15 PM
May 2016

human life by driving recklessly (and crashing into other vehicles) in an effort to escape police custody?

Are police shootings ever justified?

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
16. Woman killed by SFPO....
Sun May 22, 2016, 04:17 PM
May 2016


Not again.

The death penalty has never been the sentence meted out for being in a stolen car.
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