Swallowing human faeces will cure disease, NHS say
Source: Telegraph UK
Swallowing human faeces will cure disease, the NHS has announces as it opens it first ever frozen faecal bank.
Frozen samples are being shipped around the country from a laboratory outside Portsmouth to relieve thousands sufferers of a previously incurable gut problem.
Every year in England more than 13,000 people suffer from Clostridium difficile, and one in five do not respond to conventional treatment.
The condition, which appears to be a side effect of antibiotics, causes people to lose control of their bowels.
Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/19/swallowing-human-faeces-will-cure-disease-nhs-say/
Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)They've been swallowing shit for years.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)RKP5637
(67,111 posts)alarimer
(16,245 posts)raging moderate
(4,306 posts)They know they won't ever need it.
scscholar
(2,902 posts)simply fascinated by this. I'm only confused by reading about it here. Thought we were above poop jokes.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)Swallow? ... Um ... What?
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Fecal microbiota transplant (FMT). Also known as a stool transplant, FMT is emerging as an alternative strategy for treating recurrent C. difficile infections. Though not yet approved by the FDA, clinical studies of FMT are currently underway.
FMT restores healthy intestinal bacteria by placing another person's (donor's) stool in your colon, using a colonoscope or nasogastric tube. Donor stools are carefully and repeatedly screened for parasites, viruses, bacteria and certain antibodies before being used for an FMT.
Research has shown FMT has a success rate higher than 90 percent for treating C. difficile infections. One small, randomized, controlled trial stopped early because the results were so positive, with a 94 percent success rate overall.
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/c-difficile/basics/treatment/con-20029664
alfredo
(60,074 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)I thought the vet was crazy at first, but it made sense and they responded quickly.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)If a foal is fragile, it may not have consumed enough to get a healthy colony going so it makes sense to give them some extra.
After the colostrum - the first milk the mare produces that passes along some immunities - the manure is the next most important thing for foals to get so their systems will work right!
Monk06
(7,675 posts)Laffy Kat
(16,383 posts)I raised quite a few foals, most as rescue babies, and even fall foals who'd been weaned too early and meant to be headed for the meat trucks, I mixed healthy manure into their feed for the first few weeks.
My own mares had healthy, sturdy babies. It was very hard to see the condition of some of the ones I brought home from the auction mart.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)I never had the space for that.Since I probably wouldn't have been able to let them go, I would have had to stop quickly anyway since I would have had more horses than I could house or feed!
Over the nearly thirty years I bred horses, we only ever had four problem babies - two "dummy" foals that never had the suckling reflex or ability to stand and two foals with contracted tendons that we pulled through. One of those foals is still here at seventeen and will never live anywhere else, same as her best buddies - I have four mares and the last foal we bred who is now four.
For all the survivors we never had to do any special treatments, even the ones with contracted tendons. They were all vigorous with strong immune systems. Our vet checked every newborn for immune response and we never had any problems.
Person 2713
(3,263 posts)Xolodno
(6,395 posts)...eat shit and die....I was wrong on the second part.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)doesn't sound quite right though.
AgerolanAmerican
(1,000 posts)enid602
(8,620 posts)Cuts down on high grocery bills as well.
Munificence
(493 posts)re fried beans.
Taitertots
(7,745 posts)jalan48
(13,871 posts)Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Severe infection
In severe cases, people tend to become dehydrated and may need hospitalization. C. difficile causes the colon to become inflamed (colitis) and sometimes may form patches of raw tissue that can bleed or produce pus (pseudomembranous colitis). Signs and symptoms of severe infection include:
Watery diarrhea 10 to 15 times a day
Abdominal cramping and pain, which may be severe
Fever
Blood or pus in the stool
Nausea
Dehydration
Loss of appetite
Weight loss
Swollen abdomen
Kidney failure
Increased white blood cell count
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/c-difficile/basics/symptoms/con-20029664
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)Had this treatment been available to her at the time, they would gladly provide it to her. But he time. They thought to do a fecal transplant, it was too late. It's a very cruel condition. It really is awful.
The fecal transplants save lives.
Person 2713
(3,263 posts)often of strong Antibiotics killing not only the bad but all the good leaving you with a life threatening illness if it doesn't respond to treatment
still_one
(92,233 posts)Fecal transplant, which involves taking stool from a healthy person and transferring it to the infected person.
The headline misrepresents how they deal with C Diff
My Good Babushka
(2,710 posts)They are putting it in pills now, some people are unable to hold the enema in long enough, I think.
http://www.nbcnews.com/health/poop-pills-are-latest-way-cure-dangerous-c-diff-infections-8C11300066
still_one
(92,233 posts)flora
Thanks for the update
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)CanonRay
(14,104 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,459 posts)Shit sandwich.
trudyco
(1,258 posts)Fecal Transplants are being studied for more than c. diff. but it has an amazing recovery rate for this bacterial infestation that can kill. Much, much better success rate than antibiotics.
Sounds like they have figured out how to freeze it and encapsulate it so it gets past the stomach acids and populates the colon, which is where poop and pre-poop belongs. You don't taste it.
They are looking at it for diabetes and weight loss, too, I think. Also IBS. We are still trying to figure out how the gut brain and bacteria work. I'm not sure if a foal eating healthy manure would be effective as then the stomach has a chance to neutralize the bacteria or whatever it is in the gut that makes this work.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)that produce foods.
Cows milk likely contains antibiotics, also its in meat, in animals raised for meat...
Eating a little dirt from time to time is healthy too.
T_i_B
(14,739 posts)The Telegraph is very anti-NHS.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)eggplant
(3,911 posts)JudyM
(29,251 posts)xloadiex
(628 posts)to waking up with shit breath.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)snort
(2,334 posts)look for the Christmas Goose.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)intrepidity
(7,307 posts)maybe they are on to something?
My dog loves sheep shit for some reason. Maybe he knows something.
stage left
(2,962 posts)If you had C dif you would try anything to get better so you could live a normal life. It is not a laughing matter.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,204 posts)It was awful. I got medication to stop it but it took a long time. It affected my productivity at work and I lost my job.
Warpy
(111,277 posts)If there was a case on the floor, everybody knew it.
It's gas gangrene of the large intestine. It is truly horroble. Fecal transplant is the hope of the future because antibiotics don't always take care of it. Only restoring a healthy bacteria population in the gut is a sure fire cure.
Rafale
(291 posts)So this year's election won't kill me. Hmmmm. Awesome!
vkkv
(3,384 posts)adding certain bacteria to the baby's system..
Akicita
(1,196 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,501 posts)and a Cup' thing was all about. A health PSA.
The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)Sigh
Bayard
(22,102 posts)Isn't this how people get Ecoli?
TexasBushwhacker
(20,204 posts)They screen the feces for pathogens before using it.
truthisfreedom
(23,148 posts)Sensationalist headline.
olddad56
(5,732 posts)tabasco
(22,974 posts)Warpy
(111,277 posts)The safest way is via rectal tube from a healthy donor.
Eventually they'll start refining the appropriate bacteria and putting them into capsule form and that can be taken orally.
However, coprophagia never cured anyone of anything and is dangerous as well as disgusting.
yodermon
(6,143 posts)/thread
yodermon
(6,143 posts)Will leave it in all caps anyway
zyt46896
(2 posts)I am strongly opposed to ingesting bodily wastes, regardless of its supposed benefits. Yuck.