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TransitJohn

(6,932 posts)
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:24 AM May 2016

Chiropractors allegedly caught sneaking into maternity wards to treat newborns

Source: Sydney Morning Herald

Chiropractors have been caught allegedly sneaking into Australian maternity wards to treat newborn babies, publicly flouting their own regulations.

The behaviour has been slammed by other practitioners who say they are fed up with a minority tarnishing the profession.

NSW chiropractor Grant Bond allegedly snuck into Wollongong Private Hospital to treat a three-day-old baby, claiming his touch allowed the infant to have "his first poo!". Similar allegations have been levelled at a Victorian chiropractor.

A photograph posted to the Facebook page of Dr Bond's clinic in April shows the chiropractor with his hands on the back of the newborn held by his mother in one of the hospital's maternity ward suites.

"It was an awesome experience checking [the baby's] spine for the first time," Dr Bond wrote in the post, which has since been removed. "As I gently laid my hands on his spine, without even waking, he did his first poo!"

The chief executive of Wollongong Private, David Crowe, said Dr Bond had entered the ward without the permission of the hospital or the treating doctor.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/health/chiropractors-caught-sneaking-into-maternity-wards-to-treat-newborns-20160519-goz1wn.html



Fuck these guys.
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Chiropractors allegedly caught sneaking into maternity wards to treat newborns (Original Post) TransitJohn May 2016 OP
Practice without the patient's consent is assault, right? DetlefK May 2016 #1
Chiropractors are quacks... A Round Tuit May 2016 #2
Some MD's are quacks, too. colorado_ufo May 2016 #5
Like any profession... agtcovert May 2016 #6
Some chiros are good. Others are completely bullcrap Oneironaut May 2016 #7
The chiros I know agtcovert May 2016 #8
" Thats $ 100 and see you next week" bdwker May 2016 #3
Suffered a lower back sprain 3 weeks ago..... Uben May 2016 #4
 

A Round Tuit

(88 posts)
2. Chiropractors are quacks...
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:04 AM
May 2016

They don't even make good Physical Therapists.
I used to give them the benefit of a doubt, until one of them proposed "manipulating" my late fathers back, in order to treat his Alzheimers.
I asked just how that would work and was given a bunch of gobbledy-gook about the alignment of the spine with the medulla cortex, etc, etc.
They are charlatans...quacks...sleight of hand prestidigitation specialists and they rip off the public on a daily basis.
And nothing anyone can tell me about them will change my mind.

What truly amazes me is that well-educated persons accept their silliness and have convinced some insurance to pay them.
Another symptom of a sick health care system.

colorado_ufo

(5,734 posts)
5. Some MD's are quacks, too.
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:46 AM
May 2016

Many chiropractors are highly ethical.

My father was injured badly in WWII, and he got no relief from his injuries until a chiropractor (an excellent one) treated him. When I was 16, I badly injured my left knee. I almost had to be carried into the chiropractor's clinic (same one), but walked out on my own. It was amazing.

Decades later, and a different chiropractor (a lady) treated my six month old daughter for a persistent head cold congestion. She treated her so gently, then held a tissue under the baby's nose: All of a sudden, a rush of mucous came out! My daughter recovered rapidly after that.

My neck had been injured in an auto accident involving severe whiplash, and several years later, I still could not turn my head to the right. I thought I would be that way forever. I decided to try a chiropractor (a different one, due to moving), and I have regained normal movement in my neck.

If a chiropractor wants you to come back and back and back forever, look for another! You need to be selective with whatever health practitioner you use.

agtcovert

(238 posts)
6. Like any profession...
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:47 AM
May 2016

There are good ones and bad ones.

I've been receiving chiropractic care for years. Do I think that I'm hooked on it and they are just trying to get me to come back? No.

The first time I got adjusted, I started laughing uncontrollably. I felt so good, I couldn't stop myself. If there's an area I want left alone, they will honor my request. If there's something I need help with, sometimes I'm given exercises instead of manual manipulation.

My wife has been suffering with what we think is TMJ for close to a year. At least in our area, most "TMJ specialists" extort $250-500 for just an first consultative office visit, and that's with decent insurance. That extortion is not something we can afford, so I recently talked about it with our chiropractor and she's seen my wife 3 times and significantly reduced her discomfort.

As with anything, people need to pick what works for them. Broad brush characterizations aren't fair.

Oneironaut

(5,504 posts)
7. Some chiros are good. Others are completely bullcrap
Thu May 19, 2016, 01:42 PM
May 2016

I know someone who went to one who claimed that colds were a result of poor spinal alignment, and he could manipulate pressure points to get rid of a cold.

She found a good one that actually helped, though. Chiropractor(ing?) is a weird area - it was a wide array of types, from outright loons and magical thinkers to the medically knowledgable. I still think it's a pseudoscience.

agtcovert

(238 posts)
8. The chiros I know
Thu May 19, 2016, 03:10 PM
May 2016

are DO's (Doctor of Osteopathy). Fairly similar medical training to an MD, just different focus. I wouldn't see one who wasn't.

Uben

(7,719 posts)
4. Suffered a lower back sprain 3 weeks ago.....
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:39 AM
May 2016

Chiropractors can't do shit for that. The first time I did this, I went to one. He did all kinds of adjustments, took xrays, and I left feeling worse than when I came in. So, I go to my GP. He says use ice and heat, stay off of it for a week or so and it'll be just fine. Of course, he was right. So, I have been doing that ever since. My back was fine after the second week, and it didn't cost a dime.
They know your body will heal itself, so they try to get you to submit to as much as they can do until then, and then claim to have healed you. It's what they do. Its called a scam! I go to real, certified doctors, not shysters who are in it for the bucks.

edit:To clarify, this has happened to me four or five times in the past twenty years, so I do have experience with back sprains. Every time I got the same results. Go to a doctor, not a quack.

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