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OverDone

(138 posts)
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 07:57 AM Jun 2012

Nokia starts to sink, 10,000 Jobs Cut

Source: ZDNET

Nokia will lay off 10,000 jobs worldwide by the end of 2013, the Finnish phone giant said on Thursday.

Phone-making plants and research and development will also take a hit, including centers in Ulm, Germany and Burnaby, Canada. A manufacturing plant in Salo, Finland will close but its R&D efforts will remain there.



Read more: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/nokia-starts-to-sink-10000-jobs-cut/79918



From reading the article, its looks like this is an additional 10,000 on tops of what was already talked about months ago.
Like always, big numbers like this makes you wonder how the recovery is really going

More data if you want
http://www.dailyjobcuts.com
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Nokia starts to sink, 10,000 Jobs Cut (Original Post) OverDone Jun 2012 OP
This does not bode well Sherman A1 Jun 2012 #1
No one likes it OverDone Jun 2012 #2
Blackberry and Nokia will not exist in three years. nt onehandle Jun 2012 #3
Im sure this is more to do with the dire situation in Europe than the US recovery. DCBob Jun 2012 #4
Given that "the mess in Europe" dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #7
US Recovery???? Beacool Jun 2012 #12
only 4 questions marks???????? DCBob Jun 2012 #17
Well, I was trying to be understated. Beacool Jun 2012 #18
The "recovery " where? This is not in the US. nt nanabugg Jun 2012 #5
We use Nokia too OverDone Jun 2012 #6
I wonder if a bit more creativity might have help DaveJ Jun 2012 #8
Nokia just came out with the Windows smart phone Submariner Jun 2012 #9
There is no battle Between OverDone Jun 2012 #10
i was afraid this would happen.. iamthebandfanman Jun 2012 #11
They used a "grass is always greener" philosophy DFW Jun 2012 #13
Truth. n/t Laelth Jun 2012 #16
What does this mean to the competition, like IPhone? Baitball Blogger Jun 2012 #14
2 big players OverDone Jun 2012 #15

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
4. Im sure this is more to do with the dire situation in Europe than the US recovery.
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 08:17 AM
Jun 2012

The question is how much the mess in Europe will affect us here in the US.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
7. Given that "the mess in Europe"
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 08:45 AM
Jun 2012

goes back more or less to the late 2007 financial collapse as a result of the antics US financial institutions I don't think Europe will be too bothered about how things mirror back to the USA now. Having said that if the Euro does go pear shaped and the US$ strengthens as result then exports from Europe , other than maybe Germany , to the US would most likely increase. I excluded Germany because if they recreated the Mark it is thought that would become a reserve currency of current unknown strength.

On the subject of Nokia the job losses are as a result of reduced sales activity. Either their products are uncompetitive or not state of art like iPhones and Galaxys as some seem to want.

OverDone

(138 posts)
6. We use Nokia too
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 08:33 AM
Jun 2012

There is alot overseas, but you got to think we use Nokia over here. So it kinda trickles down.

DaveJ

(5,023 posts)
8. I wonder if a bit more creativity might have help
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 09:23 AM
Jun 2012

"Ugh, We make phones. No phone sales. We fire." Obviously everyone's using Android and Apple now, so they should adjust their business model. There are lots of other technologies out there to pursue, but I guess that would be to haaard.

Submariner

(12,509 posts)
9. Nokia just came out with the Windows smart phone
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 09:53 AM
Jun 2012

which may save them. I've always had Nokia phones, and just got the Lumia 900 model which has been a great device.

OverDone

(138 posts)
10. There is no battle Between
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 10:08 AM
Jun 2012

Apple and Samsung. Samsung makes like 4 or 5 chips for the Apple iphone.
So in the end they are all connected, they just decide who they want in the game.

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
11. i was afraid this would happen..
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 11:03 AM
Jun 2012

ive always loved nokia and their products, but you could tell the last 5 years that they were clearly on the decline...
not as many products offered as other makers and it seemed to me a lack of love from the providers to push their products as well...

was really surprised when i saw the new nokia commercials this year..

DFW

(54,445 posts)
13. They used a "grass is always greener" philosophy
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 11:49 AM
Jun 2012

In the Ruhr area of Germany, Nokia had an immense plant. It got too expensive for them, so they closed it up, fired the thousands of German workers, and rebuilt their plant in Romania. The Romanians did horrible work and produced such lousy phones that over a third of them were defective and unsaleable. But did they reopen in Germany? No. They closed Romania and rebuilt in China. If the cost factor was a genuine problem, the unions in Germany would have negotiated if they knew it would have meant saving their jobs. Nokia went for the big savings instead, and fell flat on their Finnish faces.

OverDone

(138 posts)
15. 2 big players
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 02:10 PM
Jun 2012

Either you have a Samsung or an Iphone. Thats what I pretty much think it comes down to.

The reason you must have 2 is so the little guy feels like he has choices.

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