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WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:53 PM Apr 2016

Marijuana 'grow operations' found at Ohio slaying sites

Source: cnn

(CNN)Investigators found three marijuana "grow operations" at rural residences where eight family members were slain in southern Ohio, state Attorney General Mike DeWine said Sunday at a news conference.

Authorities wouldn't say publicly whether they thought the killings were drug related, but an official with knowledge of the operation told CNN's Nick Valencia: "This operation was not for personal use; it was for something much bigger than that. It was a very sophisticated operation."

The cold-blooded nature of the killings has rattled Piketon, a town of about 2,000 people 90 miles east of Cincinnati.

The victims, aged 16 to 44, were methodically shot in the head while sleeping at four residences, including a mother with a 4-day-old infant lying beside her, authorities said. The newborn, along with a 6-month-old and a 3-year-old, survived. The official said the killings happened before dawn.

"This was a preplanned execution of eight individuals," DeWine said. "It was a sophisticated operation and those who carried it out were trying to do everything they could do to hinder the investigation and their prosecution."

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/24/us/marijuana-grow-operation-found-at-ohio-slaying-sites/



Damn. Greed is always involved.
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Marijuana 'grow operations' found at Ohio slaying sites (Original Post) WhiteTara Apr 2016 OP
The failed war on drugs is usually involved..... pipoman Apr 2016 #1
Alas, if it were legal, people would still be getting robbed and killed. FrodosPet Apr 2016 #18
Some? maxsolomon Apr 2016 #54
Unfortunately, it is true FrodosPet Apr 2016 #56
Every one of those are Medical dispensaries or growers maxsolomon Apr 2016 #64
More examples of legal weed crime FrodosPet Apr 2016 #58
All examples of reported, investigated criminal acts pipoman Apr 2016 #67
Damn. Kingofalldems Apr 2016 #2
There are tens of thousands of grows in WA state, at least hundreds which are definitely jtuck004 Apr 2016 #3
I knew it! forest444 Apr 2016 #4
Fucking Mexican cartels did it, I bet. Odin2005 Apr 2016 #12
And just as evil, forest444 Apr 2016 #14
Maybe Not..... ozone82 Apr 2016 #27
I wouldn't label them as "Mexican cartels". Hulk Apr 2016 #38
Well, it was very commando like...It was an organized hit. FarPoint Apr 2016 #42
You probably are correct Hestia Apr 2016 #45
Cannabis Wibly Apr 2016 #5
You're right WhiteTara Apr 2016 #6
Well said. May I share this ? agracie Apr 2016 #9
Please do Wibly Apr 2016 #77
Best response I have seen... Thespian2 Apr 2016 #15
So well said. BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2016 #17
Beginning to look like a professional one at that........ Old Vet Apr 2016 #7
We don't know where they *went*, let alone where they're *from*. agracie Apr 2016 #10
That's why the poster wrote metroins Apr 2016 #30
Isn't pot Kentucky's biggest cash crop? elmac Apr 2016 #23
I know a guy greiner3 Apr 2016 #26
Wow, the price sure went up since the 70's elmac Apr 2016 #35
I doubt the killers are from Mexico. Any number of competitors or just plain robbers . . . brush Apr 2016 #34
Getting to be like Mexico. WHEN CRABS ROAR Apr 2016 #8
This suggests the killers may be Mexican cartel agents... Odin2005 Apr 2016 #11
I thought the estranged husband did it. JohnnyRingo Apr 2016 #13
Different story Stillwater Apr 2016 #21
Sad when the mass murders become so frequent... JohnnyRingo Apr 2016 #32
I think that's from another mass shooting that happened the next day A Little Weird Apr 2016 #22
The mass shootings are so frequent, it's WhiteTara Apr 2016 #25
Isn't that sad? JohnnyRingo Apr 2016 #33
Her ex was one of those killed. nt B2G Apr 2016 #44
Legalize drugs and all this crime zentrum Apr 2016 #16
Big banks are ugly SHRED Apr 2016 #20
FDR! He knew. zentrum Apr 2016 #28
Well, not ALL of it, but a lot of it FrodosPet Apr 2016 #47
Couldn't this just as easily happened at a meth lab? Blue_Tires Apr 2016 #78
Yet another reason for legaLization. Sad. SHRED Apr 2016 #19
I think we may have an anti-pot vigilante. bluedigger Apr 2016 #24
Sure, it "makes sense" rusty fender Apr 2016 #72
All it takes is a misguided zealot. bluedigger Apr 2016 #75
The people who did this were very highly skilled. Kaleva Apr 2016 #29
Damn. I was afraid of something like that. PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #31
Wonder if they stole the weed? hollowdweller Apr 2016 #36
I used to live in Cleveland and bought some of the best cannabis ever. I asked my "seller" Hestia Apr 2016 #46
Limited details...but I suspect cartels? Hulk Apr 2016 #37
No, you know how cartels kills their rivals? a la izquierda Apr 2016 #41
There is no "one way" that cartels murder. Hulk Apr 2016 #55
So many people, even on DU, ready to blame "Mexicans" Democat Apr 2016 #39
No kidding. It's revolting. nt a la izquierda Apr 2016 #40
Not me... FarPoint Apr 2016 #43
Perhaps you missed this from upthread: B2G Apr 2016 #48
A caucasian family was killed and people are looking for Mexicans to blame Democat Apr 2016 #50
Not everything is racist B2G Apr 2016 #51
Mexicans, Colombians, Chinese, Russians, Mafia, etc, etc. Hulk Apr 2016 #61
Blaming Mexican drug cartels is racist now? Odin2005 Apr 2016 #65
I'm sure there are no white drug dealers in that area Democat Apr 2016 #66
Isn't speculating that it was Mexican cartels a compliment to them? NutmegYankee Apr 2016 #68
how many plants? 5 or a thousand? These 3 different houses murders seem like an inside job to me. Sunlei Apr 2016 #49
"Grow operations" means it was significant B2G Apr 2016 #52
You won't see this happening in Colorado fred v Apr 2016 #53
You have a higher level of faith in our species than I do FrodosPet Apr 2016 #59
Same as goes on.. cannabis_flower Apr 2016 #73
This is a very good point. The banking system MUST be opened up to cannabis businesses FrodosPet Apr 2016 #74
Yes...Oregon Hulk Apr 2016 #60
Violent Robbery At Denver Medical Marijuana Dispensary FrodosPet Apr 2016 #62
Tempe Medical Marijuana Dispensary Agg Assault FrodosPet Apr 2016 #63
Whoever did not want competition has made the point. Yo_Mama Apr 2016 #57
St Valentines Day Massacre Part 2? One_Life_To_Give Apr 2016 #69
The killer got past family dogs. Insider? mainer Apr 2016 #70
Or locked up in a kennel. nt B2G Apr 2016 #71
The Father Of One Of The Victims Said Today He Believes They Knew Their Killers Corey_Baker08 Apr 2016 #76

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
18. Alas, if it were legal, people would still be getting robbed and killed.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:25 PM
Apr 2016

It has to go mainstream, corporate, too cheap to bootleg, in order to make a big dent in violence and theft.

People are getting killed over whisky and cigarettes, both legal products. People will still be bootlegging, jacking growhouses and retailers when MJ is legal.

But yes, it will shrink some of the criminal involvement.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
54. Some?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 12:54 PM
Apr 2016

How much assault or theft is associated with legal grow operations in WA? None that I know of.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
56. Unfortunately, it is true
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:30 PM
Apr 2016

Some of too many examples, if you search for them.

[hr]
Armed robbers terrorize marijuana shop employee

http://q13fox.com/2015/09/29/armed-robbers-terrorize-marijuana-shop-employee/
POSTED 5:31 PM, SEPTEMBER 29, 2015, BY STEVE KIGGINS


EVERETT, Wash. -- A pair of robbers terrorized a medical marijuana store employee holding him at gunpoint. The crooks made off with thousands of dollars in cash and merchandise.

It happened at the Patient Care 99 medical dispensary along Highway 99 south of Everett Tuesday evening.

Nickolaii Matveev was the only employee working at the time. The crooks struck only a few minutes before closing time.

~ snip ~

In a flash, the gunman pushed Nickolaii to the floor while the other robber searched the office. Once they found a box the crooks helped themselves to high-grade, medical pot.

~ snip ~



[hr]
Spokane marijuana retailer Greenlight robbed at gunpoint

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2015/aug/06/spokane-marijuana-retailer-greenlight-robbed-at/

By Kip Hill
THURSDAY, AUG. 6, 2015, 3:11 P.M.



Spokane County’s leading marijuana retailer was robbed Monday night in what Sheriff Ozzie Knezovich called a “takeover-style” crime.

“We’re taking this very seriously,” Knezovich said Wednesday.

Greenlight, at 10309 E. Trent Ave. in Millwood, routinely reports sales of around $20,000 daily to the Washington Liquor and Cannabis Board.

General Manager Brandon Mulvey said two people came into the store armed with guns, handcuffs and zip ties at closing time Monday night.

~ snip ~



[hr]
Pair charged in $20,000 robbery of medical marijuana grower

http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20141227/NEWS01/141229316
By Rikki King
Published: Saturday, December 27, 2014, 12:01 a.m.



~ snip ~

A Lynnwood-area medical marijuana grower lost roughly $20,000 worth of product and supplies in the violent November holdup. Police allege it was set up by a woman who had briefly worked as a plant-trimmer at the man's house just hours before.

~ snip ~

The 21-year-old reportedly behind the November holdup was brought on as a trimmer by another of the victim's employees. She arrived to help trim marijuana plants the afternoon of Nov. 28 — less than 12 hours before the robbery, according to a search warrant. While working, she was “constantly” on her cellphone and showed the other workers pictures of her “baby daddy,” a man named “Smiley.”

~ snip ~

While the men pointed their guns at the victim and pushed him into the kitchen, they ignored the woman, who closed the front door and stayed inside the house, according to the arrest reports. She calmly watched the robbers work for a few seconds before walking outside. Afterward, she looked up at a surveillance camera, she “tries to appear panicked,” police wrote.

The men struck the victim multiple times in the head with a handgun before taking $20,000 worth of marijuana and marijuana supplies. They drove away in the silver Chrysler. They also took the grower's phone, his gun and his silver necklace.

~ snip ~

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
64. Every one of those are Medical dispensaries or growers
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:39 PM
Apr 2016

The state is trying to phase them out because of their fly-by-night nature - and susceptibility to these crimes. The Recreational dispensaries are far more professional.

Not that the product isn't valuable and easily fenced.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
58. More examples of legal weed crime
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:48 PM
Apr 2016
2 arrested in Bellevue pot shop robbery

http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattle911/2015/05/28/two-arrested-in-bellevue-pot-shop-robbery/

By Lynsi Burton on May 28, 2015 at 4:47 PM


Origin Cannabis Company, a licensed marijuana grower on Richards Road, was robbed April 17 by two men — one of them armed — who escaped the scene before police could respond.

The intruders took about $9,000 worth of marijuana, as well as a cell phone and iPod Touch belonging to one of the employees. One of the robbers appeared to know exactly where the pot was kept, despite being stored in unmarked drawers, reports say.

Police identified one of the robbers as Isaac Pollard, a 25-year-old former employee of Origin who was subsequently charged with two counts of first-degree robbery. Police arrested him May 11 in Atlanta, from where he awaits extradition.

~ snip ~

The 25-year-old arrested in Tacoma admitted he was the getaway driver for the robbery and he was paid in two ounces of stolen marijuana, gas money and the stolen cell phone for his role.

~ snip ~


[hr]
MEDICAL MARIJUANA ROBBERY SUSPECT BUSTED

http://www.skyvalleychronicle.com/?t=News_inside_display&nid=2029648&nhr10000309=5&nhc10000309=75

February 23, 2015


(SEATTLE, WA.) -- Seattle Police say a robber wanted for holding up a Madison Valley medical marijuana dispensary earlier this month was arrested Thursday night.

"The suspect made off with more than $10,000 in cash and merchandise when he robbed the dispensary, located on the 2300 block of East Madison Street, at gunpoint on Feb. 10," said a police statement.

The suspect threatened to shoot the clerk before fleeing the scene.

~ snip ~


[hr]
And there are robberies of grows and retailers in Colorado as well
[hr]
Robber gangs terrorize Colorado pot shops

http://www.cnbc.com/2014/02/05/robber-gangs-terrorize-colorado-pot-shops.html

Tony Dokoupil and Bill Briggs, NBC News
Wednesday, 5 Feb 2014 | 8:27 AM ET



One thief, posing as a delivery man, pulled a can of bear mace on employees and ransacked their marijuana shop, fleeing in a defensive cloud of "ultra-pepper" spray. Another opened the wall of a dispensary with an ax and attacked the store's safe with a circular saw. Still another stuck to the basics. He kicked in the front door and pointed his gun at the counterman. An accomplice kicked in the back door and filled a duffel bag with more than $10,000 worth of high-quality cannabis.

For weeks now, the Mile High state has allowed the sale of recreational pot to adults, and so far the Rockies still stand. But crimes like the ones above, all of which occurred in Colorado in the last six months, have produced an acid-drip of anxiety in the industry, highlighting the dangers faced by those hoping to drag America's most popular illegal drug into the light. Because marijuana remains banned by Congress, banks and security firms deny services to most dispensaries. That leaves them cash-based and vulnerable, a magnet for criminals who like the idea of unguarded counting rooms and shelves lined with lucrative horticulture.

~ snip ~

More recently, however, the crimes have sent a forked bolt of fear through the industry. Last summer, for example, a trio of gunmen "demanded Weed" from the workers at a dispensary called 420 Wellness, according to documents provided by the district attorney's office. As two of the gunmen filled "several trash bags" with award-winning marijuana, the third leapt over the counter and took a female employee by the elbow, leading her around the shop as a human insurance policy. Police caught up with that squad soon after they fled the scene, charging the ringleader with aggravated robbery and kidnapping.

But over the next six weeks, a different team of burglars hit at least eight dispensaries, and a third team is still on the loose after a stick-up at New Age Wellness in nearby Boulder County. Moments after closing time, two men dressed in baby-blue ski-masks burst in, pointed guns, and cleaned out the little mountain depot. "It's an epidemic," says one of the employees, who declined to give his name for safety reasons. "Everything is a lot tighter now. It isn't so homey anymore."

~ snip ~

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
67. All examples of reported, investigated criminal acts
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 11:34 PM
Apr 2016

The war on drugs = turf wars, gang violence between retailers, international cartel involvement......completely different than garden variety, surveillance video, idiot armed robbery. Surely you can see the difference?

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
3. There are tens of thousands of grows in WA state, at least hundreds which are definitely
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:58 PM
Apr 2016

commercial, with a fair number of private ones that rival those in size.

No families wiped out.

Wonder if that's related or if the lazy-ass cops just seizing on the first thing they can?

They probably had a bunch of boxes stacked in the garage too.

ozone82

(91 posts)
27. Maybe Not.....
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:32 PM
Apr 2016

Could be a biker gang, or, MS-13 as they are in that state, as well as most states for that matter.

[link:|

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
38. I wouldn't label them as "Mexican cartels".
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 12:30 AM
Apr 2016

The cartels today are international, and if we want to be naive enough to think all the cartel business and killings happens ONLY in Mexico, then so be it. I'm not buying that for a minute. These thugs know how to murder and how to terrorize others from messing with their business. Mexican, Colombian, Chinese, Russian.....I wouldn't waste my time trying to figure which country these thugs are from. More than likely all of the above and many more.

FarPoint

(12,409 posts)
42. Well, it was very commando like...It was an organized hit.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 08:31 AM
Apr 2016

Well planned ...with a hint of compassion... Let the babies live...that could be telling.

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
45. You probably are correct
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 09:42 AM
Apr 2016
In August 2012, DeWine issued a press release saying law enforcement officers found "a major marijuana grow site in Pike County with suspected ties to a Mexican drug cartel."

Investigators destroyed about 1,200 marijuana plants and found two abandoned campsites they believe belonged to Mexican nationals, the release said.

DeWine has not indicated any connection between the 2012 findings and the operations found on the Rhoden properties.

Wibly

(613 posts)
5. Cannabis
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:10 PM
Apr 2016

First, "marijuana" and "marihuana" are promo names, created to separate well known and widely used "cannabis" from the discussion. When we speak of the plant, it should be called "cannabis". That is what it is. It is not "marijuana". Marijuana is the creation of a PR agent.
Prior to the prohibition of cannabis the substance was widely used as a medicine, an over the counter medicine, much the same way as many herbs, creams and oils continue to be distributed. There was no need for laws against the stuff. It had never killed anyone. No one had ever died moving it across a field or over a border. There was no black market in the stuff. No criminal gangs.
The biggest problem with cannabis is that it is illegal. That should be the end of the discussion. Common sense would dictate to move it back into the sphere where it has existed for centuries.
Anyone who attempts to draw a parallel between cannabis and murder as an excuse to maintain criminalization is clearly refusing to acknowledge the obvious. The only reason people die, or get hurt, with relation to cannabis is a direct result of the prohibition of cannabis.
Prohibition is what makes cannabis valuable to criminals, not cannabis itself, not the consumption of it, not a legal market in it.
Prohibition killed these people, not cannabis.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
17. So well said.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:22 PM
Apr 2016

Execution style suggests organized crime...which would only be a factor when inflated profits exist because of barriers placed on access.

Old Vet

(2,001 posts)
7. Beginning to look like a professional one at that........
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:14 PM
Apr 2016

One of those don't sell your product on my block things, This appears to be no more then a message to anyone else thinking of selling on my turf bullshit. IMHO these fellas are back in mexico already, God I hope the FBI or DEA find these fucks.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
30. That's why the poster wrote
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:46 PM
Apr 2016

IMHO in my honest opinion.

An opinion is an opinion.

I personally don't have one on the subject.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
23. Isn't pot Kentucky's biggest cash crop?
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:30 PM
Apr 2016

maybe someone closer then Mexico was involved. I wouldn't think pot would be worth all that carnage, probably right about making an example. These monsters need to be stopped, they are the real terrorists.

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
26. I know a guy
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:32 PM
Apr 2016

In his basement is a cheap hydro set up. With 2 grows a year at 4 plants per grow yields maybe 4 kilos. Another friend buys an eighth oz @$100 per. That's $800 per oz. 800X16=$12,800 lb Times that by 8.8=$112,640. Personal consumption

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
35. Wow, the price sure went up since the 70's
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:48 PM
Apr 2016

but it was crap back then. Legal growers are buying up homes with nice pole barns around here, paying cash, so I guess there is a little coin to be made.

brush

(53,787 posts)
34. I doubt the killers are from Mexico. Any number of competitors or just plain robbers . . .
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:42 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Mon Apr 25, 2016, 12:35 AM - Edit history (1)

could've wiped them out and stole their stash/stashes of weed and cash. To go to all four houses of one family seems to indicate someone close to the family who knew about the lucrative operation and wanted no witnesses left alive to ID them.

JohnnyRingo

(18,636 posts)
13. I thought the estranged husband did it.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:52 PM
Apr 2016

I read that he killed his wife's family to punish her then shot himself in the head. I even saw his picture in the article.

I'm guessing the grow operation is coincidental.

On edit:
I can no longer find the article I saw this morning on Daily Beast and this seems to be the latest news. I wonder what that was about?

JohnnyRingo

(18,636 posts)
32. Sad when the mass murders become so frequent...
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:52 PM
Apr 2016

...that I confuse them for each other.

Thanx for clarifying.

A Little Weird

(1,754 posts)
22. I think that's from another mass shooting that happened the next day
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:30 PM
Apr 2016

I think I read something like what you describe where 5 people were killed including the estranged husband. I may be wrong, it's hard to keep them straight these days.

WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
25. The mass shootings are so frequent, it's
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:21 PM
Apr 2016

hard to keep them straight. I saw a few of them on different news feeds today. Soon, they will be so common, we won't even need to note them.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
16. Legalize drugs and all this crime
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:15 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:37 PM - Edit history (1)

……and murder and mayhem will stop.

But I guess all the laundered billions will always prevent that.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
47. Well, not ALL of it, but a lot of it
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:37 AM
Apr 2016

Some people will still be robbing dispensaries and growhouses, and other people will still be bootlegging and undercutting the legal, properly taxed cannabis, but it will REDUCE the mayhem.

Legalizing will also give corporations like RJR and InBev another source of income. Pension funds own stocks, so if stock prices go up, pension funds go up.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
24. I think we may have an anti-pot vigilante.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:43 PM
Apr 2016

Targeting all the family at three different residences makes little sense. It's tremendous risk, for what? Unless the family kept their money and/or product evenly distributed, and the killers knew all their details, which would point to an "inside" job. It was someone with a personal grudge against them and how they made their living, I think. Only "innocents" were spared.

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
72. Sure, it "makes sense"
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:58 PM
Apr 2016

that the victims were killed by people who were anti-marijuana but pro-murder

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
36. Wonder if they stole the weed?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 12:18 AM
Apr 2016

If so I'd think somebody who knew about it and thought it was a good thing to trade for heroin.

If not than maybe they were contractors and did something wrong.

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
46. I used to live in Cleveland and bought some of the best cannabis ever. I asked my "seller"
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 09:59 AM
Apr 2016

about it and he said everyone in KY and WV grew and people would go to family farms on the weekends, load up, and come back to the cities to sell. It is so ubiquitous there, it's hard to fathom some local would do this. They probably have their own set up and their own "pipeline" to sell to. I just can't fathom someone killed over cannabis.

If you click on the link and watch the newscasts, the 19 y/o's best friend said she felt that the family had been stalked; preacher said the same thing.

Somebody talked to the wrong person at the wrong time. Loose lips sink ships...



 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
37. Limited details...but I suspect cartels?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 12:26 AM
Apr 2016

Sounds very typical of the cartels tactics. Overkill and brutality to dissuade anyone from competing with their operations. Just saying. We'll never be told, regardless. We don't want to panic the masses. We'd prefer to think it's ALL south of the Rio Grande.

a la izquierda

(11,795 posts)
41. No, you know how cartels kills their rivals?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:37 AM
Apr 2016

Brutally. Like cutting off one's face and hanging them from a bridge. Or cutting them up with a machete. Or putting a person in a 50 gallon drum, dousing with kerosene, and burning the person alive.

All of you "it's the Mexicans" folks can come sit in on my class today. I'm planning to go over cartel killings in great detail. I seriously doubt a single one of my students would look at this and go "Good lord, we better be scared of those Mexicans."

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
55. There is no "one way" that cartels murder.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:16 PM
Apr 2016

I'm not going to argue over whether this was "typical cartel hit" or not. There isn't such a thing.

Yes, they murder and torture, and they can be the most sadistic savages that have ever walked the earth. Saying that, they murder and torture how they chose. Murdering the entire family, execution style, fits their MO as well. A simple shot to the head, slitting a throat, and the whole book of inhumane methods are all part of their satanic behavior.

I do take issue with the idea that they couldn't be responsible for this type of execution simply because they are capable of much more brutal and savage acts. They certainly are capable, and I would suspect are likely responsible for such an act. The fact it is "untraceable" leaves me to suspect their hand played a part in this drug related activity.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
48. Perhaps you missed this from upthread:
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:40 AM
Apr 2016

In August 2012, DeWine issued a press release saying law enforcement officers found "a major marijuana grow site in Pike County with suspected ties to a Mexican drug cartel."

Investigators destroyed about 1,200 marijuana plants and found two abandoned campsites they believe belonged to Mexican nationals, the release said.

DeWine has not indicated any connection between the 2012 findings and the operations found on the Rhoden properties.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
50. A caucasian family was killed and people are looking for Mexicans to blame
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 11:11 AM
Apr 2016

This family was likely involved in a lot of shady business, and I'm sure you can find plenty of news stories about recent white crime in the area.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
51. Not everything is racist
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 11:44 AM
Apr 2016

And speculating about drug cartels in the area certainly isn't.

If you think investigators aren't treating this as a very real possibility, you're nuts.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
61. Mexicans, Colombians, Chinese, Russians, Mafia, etc, etc.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:00 PM
Apr 2016

Cartels is what we are blaming. The Mexicans are mostly responsible for what goes on along the frontier inside Mexico. These cartels don't give a rat's ass what nationality or ethnic group you belong to.

I'd bet my last month's paycheck that this ugly situation has a cartel's finger prints all over it. They don't mess around when it comes to fooling around with their territory.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
65. Blaming Mexican drug cartels is racist now?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:43 PM
Apr 2016

Nobody is blaming average Mexicans who are the VICTIMS of those cartels.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
68. Isn't speculating that it was Mexican cartels a compliment to them?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 12:22 AM
Apr 2016

By basically implying that most people only think they have the planning and expertise to pull off a crime like this?

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
49. how many plants? 5 or a thousand? These 3 different houses murders seem like an inside job to me.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:50 AM
Apr 2016

A family member or 'friend' who knew the 'brother-in-law',the one who was beaten to death.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
52. "Grow operations" means it was significant
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 11:50 AM
Apr 2016

and not being grown for personal, recreational use.

So a lot more than 5.

 

fred v

(271 posts)
53. You won't see this happening in Colorado
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 11:59 AM
Apr 2016

Or Washington, or Alaska. (I forget the fourth state. Oregon?)

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
59. You have a higher level of faith in our species than I do
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:55 PM
Apr 2016
$1,000 reward for pair who robbed medical pot clinic at gunpoint

http://komonews.com/archive/1000-reward-for-pair-who-robbed-medical-pot-clinic-at-gunpoint

BY KOMO STAFF WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 30TH 2015




EVERETT, Wash. - A clerk at a Snohomish County medical marijuana dispensary is in shock after an armed robber pointed a gun at his face then stole cash while his accomplice grabbed two boxes full of pot before fleeing out into the night.

The search is now on for the pair, who were caught in the act on surveillance video.

The incident unfolded Monday at about 7 p.m. at the Patient Care 99 marijuana dispensary just south of Everett.

Surveillance cameras captured images of the two robbers as they walked in and held a gun to the clerk's head.

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cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
73. Same as goes on..
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:55 PM
Apr 2016

in convenience stores, banks, liquor stores and other businesses that do a lot of cash business every day of the year all over the country. By the way, less of that goes on in businesses that take a lot of debit and credit cards. The fact that our government has not had the good sense to allow banking for marijuana businesses in states that have legalized it makes it more likely that armed robbers will target these businesses.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
74. This is a very good point. The banking system MUST be opened up to cannabis businesses
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:16 PM
Apr 2016

If anyone is getting the wrong ideas from my posts, I DO support legalization. I am just reacting to people who believes that violence, robbery, and turf staking will completely vanish.

It has to not only be legalized, it cannot be overtaxed to the point where it is still profitable to grow and sell illegally.

And we STILL need to go after the illegal grows destroying the environment in Northern California.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
60. Yes...Oregon
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:55 PM
Apr 2016

I stopped in a pot shop last week, and apparently in Oregon you are allowed to grow up to four plants for personal use. I live across the Colombia River in Washington, so I think that qualifies as "close enough" to grow my own. Yippee!

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
57. Whoever did not want competition has made the point.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:35 PM
Apr 2016

Sad story, but we've had similar family slaughters in GA. They never find the culprits and no one talks.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
70. The killer got past family dogs. Insider?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:20 PM
Apr 2016

I saw a report that the families were protected by multiple dogs, and that the dogs would have to know the killers. Or the dogs were drugged.

Corey_Baker08

(2,157 posts)
76. The Father Of One Of The Victims Said Today He Believes They Knew Their Killers
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:41 PM
Apr 2016

Which Would Make Sense To Know The Location Of All 4 Family Homes, I Hope These Pieces Of Shit Are Found.

I'm Guessing 4 Perpetrators At The Least Involved Or One Of The Deceased At The Home Where 4 Where Killed Could've At Least Had A Chance Of Getting Away.

I Suspect The Leader Of The Assassins Will Get Greedy & Kill Off One Or More Of His Assistants.

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