Country's Oldest African-American Newspaper Endorses Sanders

[Purveyor]

Source: The Hill

April 23, 2016, 03:21 pm

Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders received an endorsement from the country’s oldest African-American newspaper Saturday, ahead of next week's Pennsylvania primary.

"Sanders offers an inspiring message and bold vision for America without the excessive baggage of Clinton, which is why Sanders is our choice for president in the Democratic primary," the editorial from the Philadelphia Tribune read.

The editorial cited Clinton's support of the 1994 crime bill, her use of the term "super predator" to describe black men involved in crime and her paid Wall Street speeches for reasons against endorsing the former secretary of state. And the editorial board said Sanders has always lobbied for the African-American community.

"Since his days as a student at the University of Chicago protesting against segregation in public schools in Chicago and throughout his political career, Sanders has supported policies and programs that would be in the best interest of all Americans and African Americans, specifically," the editorial read.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/277397-countrys-oldest-african-american-newspaper-endorses-sanders

[highprincipleswork]

1. Nice to see.

Everyone has to make their own choice, but these reasons have always made sense to me.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

2. Wonderful!

[HooptieWagon]

3. Nice!

[pnwmom]

4. Bernie voted YES to that same crime bill, and he used the word "sociopaths"

instead of "super-predators" -- both to describe violent gang leaders, not black men specifically or in general.

[Android3.14]

12. Which sentence in this endorsement is incorrect information?

Until you make that point, you have no point.

[pnwmom]

13. It's an error by omission to state that she favored the crime bill without noting that he voted YES.

[Android3.14]

27. So no error. But we both know that.

Got you figured out.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

39. Ironically, you are lying by omission, too.

He voted because of the violence against women provision in that very same bill.

I wonder why you doth project too much?

[pnwmom]

41. And Hillary supported the bill because of its better provisions, too.

Most bills that get through a highly partisan Congress contain elements that are good and bad. Hillary is the only one honest about that.

As for Bernie, during the discussion about that crime bill, he put a statement into the record calling for eliminating the disparity between crack and cocaine by raising the penalties on cocaine.

Bernie was into law and order that year, like lots of other people.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

42. Nice try ...

It would be believable, possibly, if she hadn't advocated for the bill by calling black people "super-predators."

Yeah, she sure liked the "better" part of the bill when she wasn't busy pushing the not "better" part of the bill. Which means she has zero fucks to give about the "better" part of the bill.

[brush]

50. She called drug dealers super predators, not black people. And if you think about it, people . .

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who assume the term super predator meant black people might be subconscious racists themselves.

[BeanMusical]

14. Lol!

[pnwmom]

20. What part don't you believe?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-superpredator_us_56bd00b9e4b08ffac124806b

There is another element of the story that hasn’t been mentioned much. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who is building a serious challenge to Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination, appears to have invoked the superpredator myth as well. And he did so in a speech addressing the crime bill before it passed.

Sanders, who was in the House of Representatives at the time, was skeptical about the legislation when it was being debated. Though he would vote for its passage, he did have strong progressive-minded criticisms, lamenting the country’s mass incarceration problem and income inequality. “We can create meaningful jobs, rebuilding our society, or we can build more jails,” he said.

Sanders also added this caveat:

It is my firm belief that clearly, there are people in our society who are horribly violent, who are deeply sick and sociopathic, and clearly these people must be put behind bars in order to protect society from them.

[BeanMusical]

28. Nice spin. Unlike Bernie, Clinton meant black kids.

Hillary Clinton: Gangs of kids are "super predators" with "no conscience, no empathy"

Is Hillary Clinton really the kind of candidate who will rally progressives and the black community behind her when she refers to urban youth as “super predators” with “no conscience, no empathy”?
...

She suggests that rather than trying to understand how poverty and social exclusion may have led children to make certain choices, it is more important to first “bring them to heel.”

...

Note how Bernie Sanders discussed crime and punishment five years before Hillary called kids “super predators.” Unlike Hillary, kindly note that Bernie thought it was just maybe ok to talk about children starving in impoverished, decaying cities as possibly related to crime.

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/1/8/1467336/-Hillary-Clinton-Gangs-of-kids-are-super-predators-with-no-conscience-no-empathy

[pnwmom]

33. Try telling people in South Boston that all 'urban youth' and gang members were black.

She didn't single out black youth or gangs in her comments -- and neither did Bernie. And they BOTH supported the crime bill.

[BeanMusical]

35. Please read post #30

[cui bono]

43. Her hubby confirmed what she meant when he said BLM is defending murderers

in his bizarre attempt to defend Hillary calling black youth "super-predators".

.

[pnwmom]

44. That doesn't confirm anything. It is clear in context that super-predator as she used the term

didn't refer to all black youth or all urban youth. It referred to violent gang members, and they come in all colors -- despite what BLM thought she had meant.

The same with Bernie's comment on sociopathic individuals. He wasn't labeling all urban youth or all black youth. Just certain violent people.

[cui bono]

45. Oh, so now you're blaming BLM? Good job. Except all accounts have stated she DID mean black youth.

Even Bill agreed with that when he defended her.

.

[pnwmom]

46. No. She didn't say that and Bill didn't either.

She was talking about violent gang members without a conscience, without referring to race. And everyone knew then -- even if they won't admit it now -- that violent gang members and sociopaths (Bernie's preferred word for the same group) come in all colors.

(For more on white gangs, see the second link, about a study in California.)


https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/02/25/hillary-clinton-responds-to-activist-who-demanded-apology-for-superpredator-remarks/

“That speech” was a 1996 address at New Hampshire’s Keene State College in support of the 1994 Violent Crime Control Act, otherwise known as the crime bill. In her remarks, then-first lady Clinton said, “They are not just gangs of kids anymore. They are often the kinds of kids that are called ‘superpredators.’ No conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first we have to bring them to heel.”

This isn’t the broad brush Clinton’s critics today are accusing her of using 20 years ago. Despite Williams’s assertion that “I know you called black youth ‘superpredators,’” Clinton was clearly talking about a narrow band of young people who would not have included the admirably assertive Williams or the vast majority of African American youths then and now. And in light of the overarching fear of crime across the United States back in the 1990s, Clinton’s going out of her way to define “superpredator” as a kid with “no conscience, no empathy” is noteworthy.

https://web.stanford.edu/class/e297c/poverty_prejudice/gangcolor/madness.htm

White gangs, particularly the Skinheads, are involved in hate crimes. Murders and assaults attributed to Skinheads are on the increase, and most of their crimes are racially motivated. The connections between the Skinheads and other established white-supremacist groups-like the Ku Klux Klan and the White Aryan Resistance-are increasing.

[cui bono]

47. Tell that to this young woman:

Hillary doesn't even give her the respect of speaking to her without disdain and disgust and condescension. She actually tells her "if you would let me speak" rather than allow her to express her concerns. She would like to just shoo her away and in fact, did end up just turning her back on her and continuing to speak to her "real" donors. She did the same thing to the other BLM activists when she told them "I guess I'll just speak to white people then" while she was pointing in their faces.

She loves black people when they are voting for her, other times, not so much.

.

[pnwmom]

54. Hillary was saying that by that person's logic,

that other person was suggesting that Hillary should only speak to white people --- which Hillary obviously thought was wrong.

[Scootaloo]

66. The clintons are never at fault for their own words or actions

[Dustlawyer]

48. The other part of Clinton's statement is when she said, "...we can talk about why that is and the

reasons for it another time..." Did she ever talk about why these black kids are "Super Preditors?" It must not been because of poverty given the Welfare Reform she and Bill pushed through. It must not been about a lack of jobs, bad public schools, lack of access to higher education and the role that discrimination played into all of that!

[pnwmom]

55. She never talked about "black kids" or black people in general being super predators.

She was talking about violent gang members without a conscience, without referring to race. And everyone knew then -- even if they won't admit it now -- that violent gang members and sociopaths (Bernie's preferred word for the same group) come in all colors.

(For more on white gangs, see the second link, about a study in California.)


https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/02/25/hillary-clinton-responds-to-activist-who-demanded-apology-for-superpredator-remarks/

“That speech” was a 1996 address at New Hampshire’s Keene State College in support of the 1994 Violent Crime Control Act, otherwise known as the crime bill. In her remarks, then-first lady Clinton said, “They are not just gangs of kids anymore. They are often the kinds of kids that are called ‘superpredators.’ No conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first we have to bring them to heel.”

This isn’t the broad brush Clinton’s critics today are accusing her of using 20 years ago. Despite Williams’s assertion that “I know you called black youth ‘superpredators,’” Clinton was clearly talking about a narrow band of young people who would not have included the admirably assertive Williams or the vast majority of African American youths then and now. And in light of the overarching fear of crime across the United States back in the 1990s, Clinton’s going out of her way to define “superpredator” as a kid with “no conscience, no empathy” is noteworthy.

https://web.stanford.edu/class/e297c/poverty_prejudice/gangcolor/madness.htm

White gangs, particularly the Skinheads, are involved in hate crimes. Murders and assaults attributed to Skinheads are on the increase, and most of their crimes are racially motivated. The connections between the Skinheads and other established white-supremacist groups-like the Ku Klux Klan and the White Aryan Resistance-are increasing.

[BeanMusical]

57. +1

[Scootaloo]

30. Maybe you better go whitesplain that to the Tribune.

[appalachiablue]

5. ~THE PHILADELPHIA TRIBUNE~ Oldest African American Newspaper in US Founded 1884 Endorses SANDERS

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/4/23/1519145/-Philadelphia-Tribune-oldest-Af-Am-newspaper-in-USA-ENDORSES-Sanders-for-President

[Cryptoad]

6. ummmm

endorses a candidate who has already lost the race. Strange,

[scottie55]

7. Bernie Has Not Lost The War

Which is way more important.

[zentrum]

8. Excellent point.nt

[liberalnarb]

10. Maybe they care about the future of our country.

Whats strange about that?

[Scootaloo]

31. Says a lot about what they think of your candidate, if that's your perspective.

[Cryptoad]

62. yea,,,, those 5 million Blacks who have voted for Hillary don't mean nuttin,,,,,,, funny

[Scootaloo]

65. Is that what you think? 'Cause it's not what I said.

[Ed Suspicious]

51. Lost the race? We're still voting.

[BeanMusical]

59. Or trying to.

[Cryptoad]

64. CAn't wait to see the new "path to Victory" next week.

[Dont call me Shirley]

9. Wonderful! Wish it would have come much sooner!

[TexasBushwhacker]

24. Me too

A big part of Bernie's problem in the first primaries was name recognition.

[TM99]

32. They had to have time

to get through the Brockian bullshit, rat-fuckery, and artful smears in order to see that Sanders was indeed the better choice all along especially for minorities.

[silvershadow]

11. Good. nt

[BeanMusical]

15. Kick and R

[TIME TO PANIC]

16. K & R!

[Chicago1980]

17. Three days before the election, which is seemingly a little late in the game.

How many hearts and minds are they expecting to sway?

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

49. Yeah, it seems too little, too late.

So not very relevant.

[George II]

18. The Amsterdam News, the "second" oldest African American newspaper, and a much more....

.....influential publication, endorsed Hillary Clinton.

[Purveyor]

19. Oh how petty. Similar to a dog running around another dogs yard and pissing everywhere just to mark

the territory.

Childishly entertaining however.

[Ned_Devine]

26. Maybe this explains that behavior

https://www.getyarn.io/yarn-clip/3b9a060b-207d-4cf2-b748-d407f88919e9

[BeanMusical]

36. What a pathetic post my dear George III.

[George II]

52. .

[BeanMusical]

56. Bless your heart.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

40. Start a fucking thread about it, then.

[hopemountain]

21. weekly readership of 780k

in the philadelphia-camden area makes it a substantial endorsement for the region. thank you, philadelphia tribune!

[That Guy 888]

22. But... but... that can't be. He's a well known racist! So's everyone who votes for him!

of course

[Trajan]

23. Jolly Good Show ....

They are right ... Sanders IS the best choice for Americans ...

[jonestonesusa]

25. Good to see!

Sanders and his issue positions deserve a fair hearing, for everyone's sake.

[BeanMusical]

29. Kick and R

[Uncle Joe]

34. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Purveyor.

[CharlotteVale]

37. K&R

[Admiral Loinpresser]

38. Yes!!! n/t

[Betty Karlson]

53. K&R for good news.

Feel the Bern!

[BeanMusical]

58. Kick!

[Enthusiast]

60. Kicked and recommended!

I hope there are enough voters to overcome the fraud.

[flamingdem]

61. What an honor for Sanders!

[dchill]

63. K&R.

[bvar22]

67. Now THAT is a stinging Slap-in-the-Face to the Hillary Campaign...

..that has insisted all along that Bernie has no support among Black People.

If the campaign started today, Hillary would be nothing but an "also ran".