Iran slammed for conducting 'virginity test' on jailed artist

[uhnope]

Source: Middle East Eye

Iran was criticised by rights groups this week after it confirmed carrying out a “virginity test” on a woman imprisoned for her artwork.

Atena Farghadani, a painter and political activist, was arrested in August 2014 after publishing a cartoon depicting MPs and government officials as barnyard animals on Facebook in protest against a draft law restricting access to birth control.

Farghadani, 28, was sentenced to 12 years and nine months in prison for crimes including “gathering and colluding against national security”, “insulting members of parliament through paintings” and “spreading propaganda against the system”. In a letter smuggled out of prison last October, Farghadani said she had been forced by authorities to submit to a “virginity test”, a procedure described by Amnesty International as “a violation of international law on torture”.

She said the procedure took place shortly before a trial for “illegitimate relations” with her lawyer after the two shook hands in court.



Read more: http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/amnesty-slams-iran-over-virginity-test-jailed-painter-1608442466

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Atena Farghadani, 28, seen here with an art piece, was tried for 'illegitimate relations' with her lawyer after they shook hands


Remember this when people post videos from the Iran government fake-news channel as if it has any moral authority whatsoever

[Unicorn]

1. Wow. Purity tests and tried for holding hands with her lawyer.

[MariaThinks]

20. sharia law

[potone]

2. I am really looking forward to the day when that regime falls.

The Iranian people deserve much better. Time is not on the mullahs' side; the population is young and well-educated and eventually they will prevail over that bunch of medieval clerics who have brought them nothing but insane laws and tyranny. I'm surprised that the regime has lasted this long.

[moonbabygo]

17. I hope you are right nt

[Akicita]

40. They were the first of the "Arab Spring" countries. Persian Spring in their case.

But for some reason our President wouldn't support them when they were crying out for support. I never understood that.

[potone]

62. He knew very well that any American involvement would have doomed their efforts.

The government tried to paint the protesters as agents of foreign powers. Given our lamentable history of interference in that country, the best thing that we could do was to stay out of it and hope that they would succeed. They didn't that time, but someday they will. So far it is the Revolutionary Guard that is keeping the regime in place; it will take them deciding not to support the government over the people that will enable the Iranians to boot out the mullahs and re-establish a true democracy.

Given the demographics of Iran, and the fact that there are now two generations of Iranians who were born after the Shah was overthrown and don't remember the evils of his rule, the appeal of the regime is clearly declining. They aren't impressed by the "Great Satan" fear-mongering and they want to be part of a wider world.

I am hopeful for that country in the long run; the government can't control the Internet and the Iranians are technologically savvy. All the mullahs have going for them is fear and it is not as potent a weapon as it used to be. I think it is going to be increasingly difficult for them to hang on to power.

[Akicita]

64. That explains it. Although I question whether giving the Revolutionary Guard access to $150B to

keep the regime in place is going to help enable the Iranians to boot out the mullahs.

And don't kid yourself. The mullahs have the Muslim faith going for them as well as fear. Many Iranians are indoctrinated by their faith to believe that the way the mullahs are running the country is the way it should be. Not all those in the crowds supporting the Mullahs and chanting "Death to America" are doing so out of fear.

[potone]

67. Well, you are probably right as far as the rural communities are concerned.

But what I see changing here is that Iranians don't all view this as a choice between Islam and democracy. That is the mullahs' claim, of course, but there are Iranian politicians who want a more open society and one that is less repressive. There has been a power struggle going on for some time within the Iranian government and the joy of the people when the nuclear agreement was signed was obvious.

I know it won't be easy to overthrow this government, but the Iranian people are the heirs to a long and rich cultural tradition, and they don't identify solely with Islam. It will be interesting to see how this plays out, but, as I said, I am hopeful in the long run. That is, of course, unless we wreck the environment of our planet first. Then all bets are off.

However, I don't want to end on such a downer note, so let me wish you a good weekend!

[Akicita]

72. I agree with most of what you say but I think the joy expressed at the nuclear agreement may be

because the country just got a lot richer and because the agreement was framed to the people of Iran as very one sided in favor of Iran.
I think Iran's fate in regards to their government will be decided by the people forcing a moderating change or by an all out Middle East war well before the planet's environment is destroyed.

You have a great weekend too.

[Fred Drum]

65. you never understood that ???

is there anything else you dont understand, we can help

ask for assistance

[Akicita]

66. Thank you kindly. I'll take you up on your generous offer.

I never understood why you refused to offer your alternative to cavity searches when you were railing against them on that other thread. Please assist me by explaining what your alternative is. Be as detailed as possible.

I greatly appreciate the help. You can answer me on the other thread if that would be more appropriate. I asked the same question there but that was before you made your generous offer to help me understand.

[Coventina]

68. My prediction? You'll get a string of vulgar insults for an "explanation."

Ending with vague threats.

At least, that was my experience.



on edit: LOL! I should become a professional psychic!

[Fred Drum]

70. there were no threats

i considered you a friend after our discussion

edit: add friend to little red book

edit2: use less f words

[Coventina]

71. Drat!!

Well, shucks.

Sorry about that.

Your posts are a little hard to understand sometimes.

For instance, can I get some clarification about this "little red book" of yours?
I immediately think of Chairman Mao's book, but you seem to be using as some variant of the "little black book" of the swingin' bachelor variety?

[Fred Drum]

73. mao

well known figure in communist china

google is your friend

edit: cant vote in primaries, oh no, registered as communist

edit2: still can vote for pres, US is good

edit3: trying not to be vulgar

[Coventina]

74. Yes, I am well acquainted with Mao's life story and his little red book.

Which, as I stated in my previous post was the most obvious parallel to which you were referring.

I was merely seeking clarification, so thank you for that.

Maybe the Communist Party should hold their own primaries?

[Fred Drum]

76. i vote D

if you would like some info, as to how us commies think, i can help

its aligned with Ds alot

its not a big leap, pardon the pun.

i dont want to kill the rich, just treat them like us

[Coventina]

78. I thank you for your kind offer. I am curious as to how you think.

The floor is yours!

[Fred Drum]

80. bernies socialist-democracy is a start

we will, however, have to vote for hillary

we can change the world, if we want to

platform

1. UBI
2. your turn

[Coventina]

84. I am supporting Bernie this election. I have a yard sign to that effect.

I'm sorry I don't know what UBI means.

[Fred Drum]

86. Universal Basic Income

everyone eats

[Coventina]

88. I most certainly agree with that concept as well.

Cheers!

[Fred Drum]

89. cool

2. obscene profits should be looked at, notes taken in little red book

if you are unsure what an obscene profit is, watch CNBC

[Coventina]

91. I am in favor of an upper limit to income.

I'm not exactly sure of what it should be (probably somewhere in the 5 million a year range), but firmly believe that income should be taxed at 100% over that limit.

[Fred Drum]

94. funny as fuck

5 million rly

i got 3 kids, cant live on $4,500,000

15/hr bad

[Fred Drum]

69. can you not read

the alternative to doing cavity searches is not to do them

the alternative to not raping women in iranian jails, is not to rape women in iranian jails

further enlightenment needed ???

[Akicita]

75. Yes. So you're saying that if the woman who hid a gun in her vagina and set off the

metal detector at the jail should be allowed to take the gun into her jail cell with her because she was not allowed to be "safe space" searched. That doesn't sound reasonable to me. What if she then shot a fellow inmate or guard? Enlighten me.

[Fred Drum]

77. did i say that

no, of course i didn't

[Fred Drum]

79. topic change

favorite iranian

antonio asfandario

fuck, i cant spell

[Akicita]

82. Yes. You did. You said no cavity searches should be allowed. If she refuses to cooperate how do you

get the gun away from her? What's your alternative? That's what I'm asking. I'm hoping you have a good one because I don't want people to be cavity searched either and if you have an alternative I'd like to hear it.

[Fred Drum]

83. straw man

a prisoner in custody must be searched

dont use that to justify a traffic stop to sticking my fist up your ass

do you need further clarification

[Akicita]

85. Not a straw man. It actually happened. Answer the question. How do you get the gun away from her?

[Fred Drum]

87. nuke from orbit?

no?

[Akicita]

90. So you still refuse to answer even after your generous offer to help me out.

I'm beginning to think you don't have an answer.

[Fred Drum]

92. amazing as it may seem

not all problems have solution

being a mathematician, i accept this

there is a following, mostly mocked, that think harm reduction is better than elimination

your answer, search all crotches

[Akicita]

93. Maybe we can come to agreement that cavity searches may be necessary in some extreme cases but

certainly not for average everyday traffic stops with little probable cause. Whatcha think?

[Fred Drum]

95. im pretty sure

thats where i started

[Akicita]

96. No. That's been my position all along. Your position was no cavity searches.

[Fred Drum]

98. the cavity seaches i started with

were rape

dude does that to someone i care for.

i wouldn't file a law suit

[Akicita]

100. Agreed. And I pointed out that in the only traffic stop case I had heard about the cops were

arrested. As the discussion went on an I started pointing out cases, in particular the woman with the gun, and asked what your alternative was, when I could finally get an answer out of you, you said that the alternative to doing cavity searches is not to do them.
It's all good though. Sounds like we are on similar ground now.

[Akicita]

97. If that's your position now though we are done. Have a good day.

[mdbl]

3. Classic example why religion has no place in government.

[KG]

4. a fellow capital punishment country....

[EX500rider]

18. Sort of..

US population: 318 million - 28 executions in 2015

Iran pop: 77 million - 977+ executions in 2015


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_by_country#Numbers_executed_in_2015

[MariaThinks]

21. don't confuse the apologists with obvious facts.

that is one of the reasons radical islam flourishes - people look for any excuse to justify and even condone their behavior.

this woman is in jail for holding hands and a cartoon. When does that happen in the US?

For anyone to equate US rights with Iran has a different agenda.

[Akicita]

42. That Benghazi guy was jailed for making a video.

[Fred Drum]

5. in the ole US of A

we do virginity test with state troopers on the side of the road

what else do you have up you ass

edit: just looking for drugs, so OK

[Fred Drum]

6. that mote in your eye

disregard

[padfun]

7. In the USA we just shoot them.

The USA is the last that should be talking. This woman wouldn't be alive in half of American counties.

[marble falls]

8. Seriously? Name one of those American counties where one those murders took place over the ....

victim's artwork or hand shakes.

[uhnope]

10. thank you. nt

[marble falls]

11. Those little one shot baseless posts really get my goat.

[uhnope]

12. yeah & always featuring whataboutism or false equivalency. nt

[marble falls]

13. I wonder about the significance of that poster and this:

http://www.padfun.ir/

[Fred Drum]

14. you're forgetting the roadside anal penetration testing

as if AMERICANS don't do that

do you need links

try google "new castle police probe woman's vagina for 5 hours"

pennsylvania, a small province in iran, and whatabout kyrgyzstan

[Akicita]

19. The only one of those I heard of the cops were arrested for it.

[Fred Drum]

30. not too informed

are you?

[Coventina]

24. Try googling "false equivalency"

[Fred Drum]

26. abso-fucking-lutely

raping a woman on the side of the road in pennsylvania is no where near equivalent to raping a woman in iran

[Coventina]

27. Except here, it's a crime, while it's state sanctioned in Iran

I'd say, "Nice try" except that it wasn't.

[Fred Drum]

29. ignorance at its finest

didn't spend 5 minutes reading about it huh

google "new castle vaginal search"

first fucking link

i don't see where they mention any crime, committed or suspected, by anyone

i.e. the cops weren't charged with rape because they are state sanctioned

[Coventina]

31. Google brought me to a right-wing blog about a woman who was

cavity-searched NOT by the roadside, but after her arrest, and at a hospital.

So

1. You don't have a credible source and
2. The circumstances don't fit what you are ranting about people getting anally probed on the roadside.

I'm not buying what you're selling.

[Fred Drum]

33. ignorance personified

... None the less, she “was restrained to a bed by her wrists and ankles” as a doctor “performed an internal inspection of her vagina and rectum.”

thats not from a right wing trash site, its a legal filing

just for the lulz, no drugs were found

additionally, google "texas roadside vaginal search"

or "convenience store parking lot strip search"

but for you, fingers in ears, i didn't see it, it didn't happen


for those too fucking lazy to look
https://cases.justia.com/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/pawdce/2:2015cv01175/225815/55/0.pdf?ts=1454593998


on edit: after reading complaint again, the term "rectal packing" reminded me of "rectal feeding" something those goddamn iranians would do, or CIA

[Coventina]

35. You are grasping at straws.

Those types of searches are illegal, and in the Texas case, the trooper in question was prosecuted for it.

You need to learn the difference between "state sanctioned" and "illegal behavior".

And, regarding the court case you provide the link for: anyone can file a lawsuit for anything. It doesn't prove the woman's case that she was the victim of unreasonable search & seizure. The fact that you can't provide a link that isn't a right-wing blog reporting on this is a massive case of FAIL.

[Fred Drum]

37. anyone can post shit

some reply , some don't

is this not a valid link

https://cases.justia.com/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/pawdce/2:2015cv01175/225815/55/0.pdf?ts=1454593998

and please, i would love to read a link showing a cop was prosecuted. please provide

edit:
re-reading it is tough

so Plaintiff was directed “to
repeatedly prod her personal areas by inserting her fingers into her vagina to remove” the item,
which was determined not to exist. Id

[Coventina]

39. Your link is to the filed lawsuit, not to the merits thereof.

It proves nothing.

Here is a link to the cop being prosecuted (and pleading guilty) to his illegal behavior:


http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Former-Trooper-Expected-to-Plead-Guilty-to-Oppression-Related-to-Roadside-Cavity-Search-260398061.html

[Fred Drum]

43. love seeing a pig go down

hopefully more will

my link is to a lawsuit, it proves nothing.

the case will be settled i'm sure, jameson hospital has insurance

i wonder if iran has insurance. if so, we're all good , move along


you will get back to me when the stipulated facts are presented, i'm sure

[Coventina]

45. People who commit crimes should be held accountable.

You are the one trying to equate the US with Iran, not me.

I'm merely pointing out that your position is not supported by the facts.

[Fred Drum]

46. the IRAN gov't are pig-dogs

the US gov't only dogs

see , they are worse than us

we should fix our shit, and if you think that woman in new castle is making it up, talk to anita hill.

we're all lefties, some of us carry little red books

[Coventina]

48. I would never say we are perfect, far from it.

I was not trying to make that case at all.

I never said the woman from New Castle was making it up, I merely said that your right-wing source did not report the story as you did.

[Fred Drum]

49. it was a fucking legal document

that i referenced

dont imply i'm right wing, i'll write that shit down in my little red book

[Coventina]

51. You told me to Google it. I did and it took me to to a right wing blog.

If you didn't want that as your source, you should have posted the link to the lawsuit in the first place.

AGAIN: Filing a "legal document" does not mean that the contents thereof are true or in any way meritorious. Anyone who has been through a nasty divorce can tell you that.

I tremble in fear over being listed in your "little red book."

[Fred Drum]

54. we all good

google can be tricky, tricky, tricky, tricky

my little red book dont lie

[Akicita]

44. They had a bed on the roadside?

[Fred Drum]

47. thats funny

actually sad

edit: don't fucking waste your time replying

[Akicita]

50. So if a person is hiding drugs or a weapon in their rectum or vagina what do you propose the

the authorities should do about it? Nothing? Are the rectum and vagina considered "safe spaces" for hiding drugs and weapons in your mind? Can suspects be forced to undergo an X-ray examination? I read about a woman who was found to be hiding a small pistol in her vagina. What is your solution?

[Fred Drum]

55. nuke from orbit

only way to be sure

edit: again, dont reply to this

[Akicita]

56. Don't have a reasonable response? Why am I not surprised?

And I'll reply if I want to. You can always block me if you want to be cowardly about it. You throw bombs but then refuse to offer an alternative that's reasonable.

[Fred Drum]

57. searching woman's vagina sounds reasonable

i try to every day, sometimes successfully, mostly not

so, a gun can be physically hidden there, as my ass also, i suppose

clothing hinders detection of weapons, and you can also prevent reasonable law enforcement efforts to protect little children, so my solution is


WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SAYING

[Akicita]

60. I get you on the trying every day. Me too.

I am not saying anything. I'm asking. You are very vociferous in decrying the cavity search of people suspected of hiding drugs, weapons, or other evidence of a crime in their orifices. What's your alternative? What are authorities supposed to do about people hiding those things in what you would call their their "safe spaces"?

Say the woman who hid the gun in her vagina set off a metal detector when she was brought in to be booked? What do the authorities do if they cannot invade her safe space? Let her bring a gun into jail? In my mind, if she refuses to cooperate they should get a court order if necessary to do a cavity search.

I am just asking what your reasonable alternatives to cavity searches are. I can't think of any.

[Fred Drum]

61. you are actually saying

cavity searches are required

you dont have to say anything else

we disagree, as in

i see that you were speeding, do you have any weapons in your cunt, you wont mind a search, eh ... hillbilly laugh
banjo music commences

besides the blatant generalization, no harm no foul

edit: banjo music clashes with screaming

[christx30]

101. OK, what about this,

continuing with the meme of the woman hiding a pistol in her vagina.
You're booking her on a crime, let's say... passing hot checks, credit card fraud, hit and run, ect. You take her mug shot, and finger prints. During the booking, she sets off the metal detector.
She admits she has a pistol in there for self protection. She refuses requests or orders to remove it. The law says you can't bring guns into jail with you. What do you do? Release her, despite the crimes she's committed? How would you handle it?

Sure, nuke from orbit, only way to make sure. Or you could give us a serious answer.

[marble falls]

58. And who goes to jail for that? The victim or the cop?

[Fred Drum]

59. not quite sure of the question

but, i don't think a cop is going to stick his finger up my ass

a life could be lost, his or mine, one way or the other.

alternatively, i might enjoy randome fingers up my ass, then, no harm, no foul

but strapping my girl to a table and prodding, thats what stalking is for, motherfucker will pay

[Fred Drum]

15. do you still fear google images

alert

[MariaThinks]

22. no thinking person believes stuff that sharia law apologists make up.

[IronLionZion]

9. So shaking hands with your lawyer will get your lady parts examined?

That kind of logic always baffles me. One would think the virginity test would be much more disgraceful to her honor than anything she does with her hands. This is clearly an intimidation tactic to humiliate a powerless person for daring to even have a lawyer defend her in what is probably not a fair trial to begin with.



The US should attach some human rights conditions to lifting the sanctions in the nuclear deal.

[Fred Drum]

16. smoke a bud

spread your legs, just wanna check


AMERICAN justice

[Akicita]

23. Ha! The Us wouldn't even attach any conditions that the $150B we gave them wouldn't be used to

support terrorism even though Iran is the #1 state sponsor of terrorists in the world.

[Fred Drum]

28. bandar bush would disagree

usa #1

we da best at everything

[SunSeeker]

25. The GOP has a lot of views in common with those Iranian officials.

They would both like to end access to birth control. And as that Limbaugh attack on Ms. Fluke demonstrates, women who dare call for access to birth control are accused by right wingers of being "sluts."

http://gawker.com/5889676/rush-limbaugh-women-who-want-birth-control-are-sluts

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

32. The two aren't remotely the same

The repuklicans want to end women's right to abortion, while on the other hand, aybe 1 in 500 believe birth control should be illegal. And the issue with Ms. Fluke was her insistence that the other people pay for her birth control. The republicans don't want to pay for school lunches and health care for little children, for fuck's sake. They're selfish pricks, but it's not remotely the same as the situation in Iran.

[Akicita]

36. I have never heard of anybody who wants to end access to birth control. Can you name some of them?

Those who oppose birth control for religious reasons just don't want to be forced to pay for other people's birth control. Same with RW nuts like Limbaugh. And it crosses party lines. I highly doubt that many of the Little Sisters of the Poor are Republicans for instance. They care to much about the poor.

[tabasco]

34. Stupid, cowardly assholes who call themselves "men"

When the good people of Iran rise up against these tyrants, the cowardly barbarians will get their just rewards. I hope I live to see the day.

[Akicita]

38. You think there aren't many women there that support these policies? There are many, many women

in that part of the world who ardently support even female genital mutilation. It's religious indoctrination and affects both men and women.

[tabasco]

52. Not in positions of leadership.

Thanks for asking.

[Akicita]

53. That's also religious indoctrination and is supported by both men and women who have been

indoctrinated. It used to be similar in the US over a hundred years ago but we evolved and are still evolving.

[Yo_Mama]

41. Indonesia conducts "virtue checks" for female military applicants.

It's a different mindset - so different that it is effectively a different world.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-32748248

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

63. Well, how else would the good Sharia judges know ...

... whether to imprison, whip, and beat her, or simply have her stoned to death?

Good that the judge is (religion which can not be named).

[Mary Mac]

81. Saudi Arabia don't worry that we favor Iran.

We think you're both crazy.

[ck4829]

99. Time to realize that 'virginity' is a social construct

They violated her so they could protect a concept that only exists in their heads.