Hillary Clinton Comes Out in Support of Chuck Schumer's 9/11 Bill
Source: ABC News
In a break with the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton has come out in support of the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act, which would allow families of 9/11 victims to sue foreign sponsors of terrorism in federal court, her spokesman Nick Merrill said today.
New York Sen. Chuck Schumer is pushing for the legislation, while the Obama administration has been lobbying to block the bill.
Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-support-chuck-schumers-911-bill/story?id=38464146
MattP
(3,304 posts)Saudi Blackmail is bad, I'm shocked Bernie didn't come out in support
DrBulldog
(841 posts)Or do you just shoot from the hip and look stupid later?
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vkkv
(3,384 posts)childish.. not to mention a bit evil and GOP-like!
In my HUMBLE OPINION, that is.
karynnj
(59,504 posts)The lead sponsor of this bill is not Schumer, which made it hard for me to find. The lead sponsor is Senator Cronyn. It was introduced last September and has 22 sponsors - from various parties.
As to why not Sanders, I assume the reason could be the same reason that Obama, McCain and Clinton were mostly not active in the Senate in 2007/2008. It is also why Kerry/Edwards/Lieberman etc were not there.
As to why the Obama administration is likely fighting it is because they are more concerned with getting SA to play a less harmful (it is hard to say helpful) role in the middle east.
Javaman
(62,532 posts)since we are the ones supplying them with the arms and munitions.
karynnj
(59,504 posts)Like keeping them from being even worse - which unfortunately could happen.
Javaman
(62,532 posts)quite frankly, I don't think it's going to get better anytime soon.
as long as we continue supply them arms, they will keep the price of oil low.
I honestly believe this is a clear case of quid pro quo.
the last thing the saudi's want is a spill over of an "arab spring" into their nation.
they have been fighting it off for a while now.
Before Yemen, it was Bahrain.
They bombed the hell out of Bahrain with our help then as well.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)vkkv
(3,384 posts)dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)DhhD
(4,695 posts)to Saudi Arabia. Right now there is a cease fire in Syria. Decisions are being made.
Javaman
(62,532 posts)iandhr
(6,852 posts)vkkv
(3,384 posts)It would be great if everyone in the world owned our own influence, but we don't.
We can't EVEN successfully sue OUR OWN police depts for the murder of our OWN American kids !!!!
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Omaha Steve
(99,693 posts)Her polling must be tighter than what we have been seeing.
Then she can evolve to make her oil friends happy like she did on fracking for natural gas AFTER NY delegates are selected.
George II
(67,782 posts)....that she wasn't familiar enough with the bill to make a judgement.
See my post #10.
Thanks.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)starroute
(12,977 posts)In the 1990s, somebody realized that it was possible for Americans to sue countries like Cuba and Iran for alleged injuries to themselves or their relatives and collect huge payouts from funds frozen in this country. Lawyers piled on in the expectation of getting a cut of the millions in damages.
The 9/11 suit is the ultimate example of that. It's been dragging on since 2002 or so, with various plaintiffs and defendants being added or removed at different stages. But allowing it to proceed against the Saudi government -- no matter what's in those 28 pages -- would amount to courting global destabilization in the name of private greed.
George II
(67,782 posts)She actually never did say that she backs that bill at all. In fact, she said in her interview several times that she didn't know enough about the bill to make a judgment.
What she DID say after the interview, through her spokesperson, was "Hillary Clinton supports the efforts by Senator Schumer and his colleagues in the Senate to secure the ability of 9/11 families and other victims of terrorist acts to hold accountable those responsible. As president she would work with Congress to this end."
That doesn't necessarily say she supports that bill, just that families and victims should be able to hold accountable those responsible for terrorism.
I'm sure President Obama does, too, but just not in the way this particular bill is written.
DhhD
(4,695 posts)in 2002. Hillary was a Senator.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/12/the-missing-pages-of-the-9-11-report.html
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Among the attendees at the press conference was Jack Quinn, formerly a top lawyer in the Clinton White House, who is representing 9/11 families in their effort to gain compensation from the Saudi government. If the redacted pages document complicity in the attacks by the Saudi government, or religious and charitable institutions related to the kingdom, which is relevant to a lawsuit in the Southern District of New York where the Saudis are the defendants. Quinn, who is one of several lawyers involved with the case, previously represented families in the Lockerbie crash in their suit against the Libyan government.
George II
(67,782 posts)....Chuck Schumer's bill in 2016?
Hillary Clinton was in the Senate at the time, not the House, and Bill Clinton's Presidency ended the previous year.
DhhD
(4,695 posts)reply, about the connection to the southern area of New York as being where the suit started in 2002? I believe that Hillary was supportive of her constituents back then. I believe she was in contact with them too, as their Senators. Looks like she may have forgotten again (she forgot about Bernie standing with her and literally behind her) in the past, on public issues. Clinton was the Senator from New York.
DhhD
(4,695 posts)Is Clinton against the Assad Regime and its Arabian and Russian backers? Could that mean that Hillary is for war in the Middle East?
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/16/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-warns-ofeconomic-fallout-if-congress-passes-9-11-bill.html?_r=1
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/12/the-missing-pages-of-the-9-11-report.html
George II
(67,782 posts)....press release after her interview ended.
No mention of Assad, no mention of Arabian and Russian backers, no mention of a war in the Middle East.
What true relevance does that have to the question that Clinton was asked this morning and her spokesperson's comment?
DhhD
(4,695 posts)grave importance is and has been on going; 9/11. She seems to be unaware of the facts that happened in her state as a Senator. She is running to take over for Obama on the very issues of terrorism and war; we are still in the Middle East where she voted to allow Bush to privatize Iraqi National Oil through warfare. She presided over the Arab Spring. She said that, we came, about Lybia. Syria was the last part of the Arab Spring so far. What is she going to do about Syria and Assad is a question that she will be ask in a Presidential Debate.
What she just said and did is very serious. This American does not take it lightly.
George II
(67,782 posts)...what she wasn't aware of is the specifics of a bill that has been introduced but not even voted upon yet.
Sorry, the rest is just an attempt at destructive blah blah to discredit her.
DhhD
(4,695 posts)I would be a fool to support such obfuscation.
https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AwrBT0ff9hRXYOYAS0Wl87UF;_ylc=X1MDOTU4MTA0NjkEX3IDMgRmcgMEZ3ByaWQDSXZObHljRVJUQlNsaGxwcjRuVjFVQQRuX3JzbHQDMARuX3N1Z2cDMwRvcmlnaW4Dc2VhcmNoLnlhaG9vLmNvbQRwb3MDMARwcXN0cgMEcHFzdHJsAwRxc3RybAMyOARxdWVyeQNCdXNoJTIwc2FpZC1Gb29sJTIwbWUlMjBvbmNlBHRfc3RtcAMxNDYwOTkxNzI3?p=Bush+said-Fool+me+once&fr=sfp&fr2=sb-top-search&iscqry=
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/12/the-missing-pages-of-the-9-11-report.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/16/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-warns-ofeconomic-fallout-if-congress-passes-9-11-bill.html?_r=2
hopeforchange2008
(610 posts)I thought anyone who disagreed with him was a traitor and not a real democrat???
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Or does she really need those Clinton Foundation donations that much???
MattP
(3,304 posts)I dont like the bill I want the pages out but I was making my judgment off the interview
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Who would've thunk?
Michael Ruppert...that's who...in "Crossing the Rubicon"
Predicting...in 2003 the Empires march through
Iraq Syria Iran and Saudi Arabia
Oil and $$$$
And a 28 page snow job