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CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:27 PM Apr 2016

Hillary Clinton Comes Out in Support of Chuck Schumer's 9/11 Bill

Source: ABC News

In a break with the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton has come out in support of the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act, which would allow families of 9/11 victims to sue foreign sponsors of terrorism in federal court, her spokesman Nick Merrill said today.

New York Sen. Chuck Schumer is pushing for the legislation, while the Obama administration has been lobbying to block the bill.



Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-support-chuck-schumers-911-bill/story?id=38464146

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Hillary Clinton Comes Out in Support of Chuck Schumer's 9/11 Bill (Original Post) CJCRANE Apr 2016 OP
Good it's the right thing to do MattP Apr 2016 #1
Did you bother to find out WHY Bernie has not come out in support of this legislation? DrBulldog Apr 2016 #3
Jury voted 1-6 to leave it alone Bradical79 Apr 2016 #5
LEAVE IT ALONE WINS-thank wonders for COMMON SENSE.. MattP's comment was out of line and just plain vkkv Apr 2016 #13
Many Senators have not signed on as cosponsors -- which is the norm on any bill karynnj Apr 2016 #8
it's a little hard to get SA to play a "less harmful roll" in the middle east at this point... Javaman Apr 2016 #28
Maybe the correct words would have been something karynnj Apr 2016 #31
better choice of words. Javaman Apr 2016 #32
I hope it allows Iraqis to sue for the terrorist attack she voted for as well. roguevalley Apr 2016 #9
Hear! Hear! vkkv Apr 2016 #14
That was my first thought as well! nt dorkzilla Apr 2016 #16
Could it be a matter of national security that a President takes care of? President Obama is going DhhD Apr 2016 #19
but the saudis are sill bombing Yemen. nt Javaman Apr 2016 #29
The United States in no way shape or form submit to Blackmail. iandhr Apr 2016 #2
Good luck with that.."to sue foreign sponsors of terrorism".. right! it's not going to happen.. vkkv Apr 2016 #4
I'm sure there's a proviso excluding Saudi Arabia. roguevalley Apr 2016 #11
Just before Tuesday's NY primary Omaha Steve Apr 2016 #6
She was asked the question during an interview this morning. And she said repeatedly... George II Apr 2016 #12
ding ding. nt restorefreedom Apr 2016 #30
The 9/11 families suit has a number of dubious aspects starroute Apr 2016 #7
I wouldn't characterize this as "a break with the Obama Administration". George II Apr 2016 #10
I cannot believe that the Clinton's did not know about HR 428 and what Jack Quinn was doing DhhD Apr 2016 #17
I don't understand what a House Bill from back in 2002 (that's 14 years ago) has to do with.... George II Apr 2016 #18
My reply #15 will explain that. There are Senate Committees at the same time. Did you see in my DhhD Apr 2016 #21
Obama seems to be caught in between. DhhD Apr 2016 #15
Clinton wasn't familiar with the bill she was asked about, and then her office issued a short.... George II Apr 2016 #20
Hillary Clinton was a Senator, a Secretary of State and is running for President when a matter of DhhD Apr 2016 #23
She's aware of those facts, you just don't want to admit it. In this instance... George II Apr 2016 #24
Earlier Clinton has said that she will answer questions after she is president. DhhD Apr 2016 #33
What??? Hillary disagrees with the President??? But, but... hopeforchange2008 Apr 2016 #22
What About Saudi Involvement In 9-11? billhicks76 Apr 2016 #25
After looking it up and Kerrys comments I was wrong MattP Apr 2016 #26
No Chut! Hillary's all for marching inti Saudi Arabia laserhaas Apr 2016 #27

MattP

(3,304 posts)
1. Good it's the right thing to do
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:32 PM
Apr 2016

Saudi Blackmail is bad, I'm shocked Bernie didn't come out in support

 

DrBulldog

(841 posts)
3. Did you bother to find out WHY Bernie has not come out in support of this legislation?
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:59 PM
Apr 2016

Or do you just shoot from the hip and look stupid later?

 

Bradical79

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5. Jury voted 1-6 to leave it alone
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 01:25 PM
Apr 2016

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vkkv

(3,384 posts)
13. LEAVE IT ALONE WINS-thank wonders for COMMON SENSE.. MattP's comment was out of line and just plain
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 02:31 PM
Apr 2016

childish.. not to mention a bit evil and GOP-like!

In my HUMBLE OPINION, that is.


karynnj

(59,504 posts)
8. Many Senators have not signed on as cosponsors -- which is the norm on any bill
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 01:56 PM
Apr 2016

The lead sponsor of this bill is not Schumer, which made it hard for me to find. The lead sponsor is Senator Cronyn. It was introduced last September and has 22 sponsors - from various parties.

As to why not Sanders, I assume the reason could be the same reason that Obama, McCain and Clinton were mostly not active in the Senate in 2007/2008. It is also why Kerry/Edwards/Lieberman etc were not there.

As to why the Obama administration is likely fighting it is because they are more concerned with getting SA to play a less harmful (it is hard to say helpful) role in the middle east.

Javaman

(62,532 posts)
28. it's a little hard to get SA to play a "less harmful roll" in the middle east at this point...
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:14 AM
Apr 2016

since we are the ones supplying them with the arms and munitions.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
31. Maybe the correct words would have been something
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:33 AM
Apr 2016

Like keeping them from being even worse - which unfortunately could happen.

Javaman

(62,532 posts)
32. better choice of words.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:43 AM
Apr 2016

quite frankly, I don't think it's going to get better anytime soon.

as long as we continue supply them arms, they will keep the price of oil low.

I honestly believe this is a clear case of quid pro quo.

the last thing the saudi's want is a spill over of an "arab spring" into their nation.

they have been fighting it off for a while now.

Before Yemen, it was Bahrain.

They bombed the hell out of Bahrain with our help then as well.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
19. Could it be a matter of national security that a President takes care of? President Obama is going
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 03:35 PM
Apr 2016

to Saudi Arabia. Right now there is a cease fire in Syria. Decisions are being made.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
4. Good luck with that.."to sue foreign sponsors of terrorism".. right! it's not going to happen..
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 01:21 PM
Apr 2016

It would be great if everyone in the world owned our own influence, but we don't.

We can't EVEN successfully sue OUR OWN police depts for the murder of our OWN American kids !!!!

Omaha Steve

(99,693 posts)
6. Just before Tuesday's NY primary
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 01:39 PM
Apr 2016

Her polling must be tighter than what we have been seeing.

Then she can evolve to make her oil friends happy like she did on fracking for natural gas AFTER NY delegates are selected.

George II

(67,782 posts)
12. She was asked the question during an interview this morning. And she said repeatedly...
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 02:29 PM
Apr 2016

....that she wasn't familiar enough with the bill to make a judgement.

See my post #10.

Thanks.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
7. The 9/11 families suit has a number of dubious aspects
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 01:44 PM
Apr 2016

In the 1990s, somebody realized that it was possible for Americans to sue countries like Cuba and Iran for alleged injuries to themselves or their relatives and collect huge payouts from funds frozen in this country. Lawyers piled on in the expectation of getting a cut of the millions in damages.

The 9/11 suit is the ultimate example of that. It's been dragging on since 2002 or so, with various plaintiffs and defendants being added or removed at different stages. But allowing it to proceed against the Saudi government -- no matter what's in those 28 pages -- would amount to courting global destabilization in the name of private greed.

George II

(67,782 posts)
10. I wouldn't characterize this as "a break with the Obama Administration".
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 02:21 PM
Apr 2016

She actually never did say that she backs that bill at all. In fact, she said in her interview several times that she didn't know enough about the bill to make a judgment.

What she DID say after the interview, through her spokesperson, was "Hillary Clinton supports the efforts by Senator Schumer and his colleagues in the Senate to secure the ability of 9/11 families and other victims of terrorist acts to hold accountable those responsible. As president she would work with Congress to this end."

That doesn't necessarily say she supports that bill, just that families and victims should be able to hold accountable those responsible for terrorism.

I'm sure President Obama does, too, but just not in the way this particular bill is written.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
17. I cannot believe that the Clinton's did not know about HR 428 and what Jack Quinn was doing
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 03:25 PM
Apr 2016

in 2002. Hillary was a Senator.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/12/the-missing-pages-of-the-9-11-report.html
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Among the attendees at the press conference was Jack Quinn, formerly a top lawyer in the Clinton White House, who is representing 9/11 families in their effort to gain compensation from the Saudi government. If the redacted pages document complicity in the attacks by the Saudi government, or religious and charitable institutions related to the kingdom, which is relevant to a lawsuit in the Southern District of New York where the Saudis are the defendants. Quinn, who is one of several lawyers involved with the case, previously represented families in the Lockerbie crash in their suit against the Libyan government.

George II

(67,782 posts)
18. I don't understand what a House Bill from back in 2002 (that's 14 years ago) has to do with....
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 03:34 PM
Apr 2016

....Chuck Schumer's bill in 2016?

Hillary Clinton was in the Senate at the time, not the House, and Bill Clinton's Presidency ended the previous year.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
21. My reply #15 will explain that. There are Senate Committees at the same time. Did you see in my
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 03:47 PM
Apr 2016

reply, about the connection to the southern area of New York as being where the suit started in 2002? I believe that Hillary was supportive of her constituents back then. I believe she was in contact with them too, as their Senators. Looks like she may have forgotten again (she forgot about Bernie standing with her and literally behind her) in the past, on public issues. Clinton was the Senator from New York.

George II

(67,782 posts)
20. Clinton wasn't familiar with the bill she was asked about, and then her office issued a short....
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 03:37 PM
Apr 2016

....press release after her interview ended.

No mention of Assad, no mention of Arabian and Russian backers, no mention of a war in the Middle East.

What true relevance does that have to the question that Clinton was asked this morning and her spokesperson's comment?

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
23. Hillary Clinton was a Senator, a Secretary of State and is running for President when a matter of
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 04:04 PM
Apr 2016

grave importance is and has been on going; 9/11. She seems to be unaware of the facts that happened in her state as a Senator. She is running to take over for Obama on the very issues of terrorism and war; we are still in the Middle East where she voted to allow Bush to privatize Iraqi National Oil through warfare. She presided over the Arab Spring. She said that, we came, about Lybia. Syria was the last part of the Arab Spring so far. What is she going to do about Syria and Assad is a question that she will be ask in a Presidential Debate.

What she just said and did is very serious. This American does not take it lightly.

George II

(67,782 posts)
24. She's aware of those facts, you just don't want to admit it. In this instance...
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 04:19 PM
Apr 2016

...what she wasn't aware of is the specifics of a bill that has been introduced but not even voted upon yet.

Sorry, the rest is just an attempt at destructive blah blah to discredit her.

 

hopeforchange2008

(610 posts)
22. What??? Hillary disagrees with the President??? But, but...
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 04:00 PM
Apr 2016

I thought anyone who disagreed with him was a traitor and not a real democrat???

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
25. What About Saudi Involvement In 9-11?
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 07:21 PM
Apr 2016

Or does she really need those Clinton Foundation donations that much???

MattP

(3,304 posts)
26. After looking it up and Kerrys comments I was wrong
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 07:51 PM
Apr 2016

I dont like the bill I want the pages out but I was making my judgment off the interview

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
27. No Chut! Hillary's all for marching inti Saudi Arabia
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 11:00 PM
Apr 2016

Who would've thunk?

Michael Ruppert...that's who...in "Crossing the Rubicon"

Predicting...in 2003 the Empires march through

Iraq Syria Iran and Saudi Arabia

Oil and $$$$

And a 28 page snow job

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