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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:57 PM Apr 2016

Ted Cruz: Transgender 'Bathroom Bills' Are 'Perfectly Reasonable'

Source: Talking Points Memo

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) said Thursday that he supports North Carolina lawmakers' push to keep transgender people from using the bathroom that aligns with their gender identity.

Cruz said laws requiring people to use the restroom that corresponds to the sex on their birth certificate makes sense because "men should not be going to the bathroom with little girls," according to the Associated Press.

"That is a perfectly reasonable determination for the people to make," Cruz said during a pre-taped town hall with MSNBC on Thursday, according to the AP.

Cruz's comment echoes the reasoning North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory (R) has used while scrambling to defend the sweeping anti-LGBT law he signed into law last month. State lawmakers passed the legislation in response to a Charlotte ordinance that expanded anti-discrimination protections to gay and transgender people and allowed people to use the restroom that aligns with their gender identity.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ted-cruz-supports-hb2-north-carolina

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Ted Cruz: Transgender 'Bathroom Bills' Are 'Perfectly Reasonable' (Original Post) TomCADem Apr 2016 OP
Which shows SusanLarson Apr 2016 #1
FOH, Lying Ted. KeepItReal Apr 2016 #2
Must be a huge problem down there. HassleCat Apr 2016 #3
This problem must be almost as big as people voting with fake names. world wide wally Apr 2016 #8
The solution seems to be the same. HassleCat Apr 2016 #10
This, along with the period/miscarriage police, is... 3catwoman3 Apr 2016 #26
More proof for those who would not support the Democratic candidate Democat Apr 2016 #4
Gotta throw that red meat to the base. Eugene Apr 2016 #5
Look at that shiny thing over there! EL34x4 Apr 2016 #21
Fuck you Ted! BeanMusical Apr 2016 #6
NITWIT, NC PUTS MEN DIRECTLY/LEGALLY IN THE WOMEN'S BATHROOMS NOW! cynzke Apr 2016 #7
Cruz is an idiot. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #9
? 2naSalit Apr 2016 #14
Cruz thinks these men should be forced to use the ladies room. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #16
Okay... 2naSalit Apr 2016 #17
Their transformations are amazing. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #18
I love the campaign! 2naSalit Apr 2016 #20
Cruz nor Trump will EVAH see the inside of the White House - asiliveandbreathe Apr 2016 #11
"Perfectly reasonable" to an unreasoning sociopath. sofa king Apr 2016 #12
Republicans want to keep it same sex. keithbvadu2 Apr 2016 #13
^^^this^^^ 2naSalit Apr 2016 #15
Nazi son-of-a-bitch would say putting gays in ovens is reasonable too. tabasco Apr 2016 #19
Now he's just being stupid treestar Apr 2016 #22
"A Transgender person will look like the sex they ID with" oberliner Apr 2016 #25
It likely happens every day and no one notices treestar Apr 2016 #27
How about de-gendered bathrooms? oberliner Apr 2016 #28
Cruz and his wife need to visit some place whistler162 Apr 2016 #23
This is one scary "human" sarcasmo Apr 2016 #24
 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
3. Must be a huge problem down there.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:27 AM
Apr 2016

I guess they have thousands of men pretending to be trans so they can sneak into women's restrooms.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
10. The solution seems to be the same.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:55 AM
Apr 2016

Just as we have to show ID to vote, we will have to show ID to use the bathroom. Perhaps the Secretary of Gender Control will issue Genitalia Confirmation cards. I hope these will have chips that can be read by the automated locks they plan to install on all bathrooms, or they will have to hire guards (armed of course!) to check the ID. Hey! Opportunity for full employment there. What a dream job, huh? Making people pull down their pants to see if their genitals match their ID cards. I hope they don't put photos on the ID cards, if you know what I mean. Think about that for a second. Have you ever had a driver's license where you were happy with the way your face looked?

Democat

(11,617 posts)
4. More proof for those who would not support the Democratic candidate
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 01:13 AM
Apr 2016

Sanders or Clinton will make a fine president.

We all need to support the Democrat over someone who would attack gay, lesbian, and transgender rights.

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
7. NITWIT, NC PUTS MEN DIRECTLY/LEGALLY IN THE WOMEN'S BATHROOMS NOW!
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 10:31 AM
Apr 2016

Transgendered women who NOW look like men will be sharing the women's restroom with little girls! Christine Jorgensen, the first publically known transgender male to female, underwent corrective surgery in 1951. SIXTY some years later, some idiots think a law is needed to force transgenders to use the restroom of their gender at birth. How did we ever survive all this time? The stupidity behind this idea is amazing. Any man who dresses like a woman to sneak into a women's bathroom would be ARRESTED. He would probably be charged with some ordinance considering this as an act of a sexual deviant and the perpetrator could end up listed as a sexual predator. If there is a man that desperate to infiltrate the women's restroom, a law on paper is not going to discourage him. What man thinks he could get away with sneaking into a women's bathroom by CLAIMING he is TRANSGENDER. No man would. They would be taken into custody and required to PROVE they are transgender, going through some medical process OR seeking medical therapy. What man would undergo medical procedures, turn himself into a woman, just to sneak into the women's restroom....NO MAN WOULD.

2naSalit

(86,775 posts)
17. Okay...
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 04:23 PM
Apr 2016

I was confused with no caption or anything. I wasn't able to tell whether they were all trans or what you were trying to say there. Thanks for the clarification! I agree, I had no clue which or if any or all of them were trans or ? I don't get get out much so some urban things are kind of lost on me temporarily.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
18. Their transformations are amazing.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 04:40 PM
Apr 2016

I guess I could have been clearer and added a comment for context ... the first fellow's photos have been pretty much everywhere and "viral" (Facebook, Twitter, Evening News, etc) and I guess that alone was enough to put it in context.

Here's a link with more information:

http://www.advocate.com/politics/transgender/2015/03/14/trans-folks-respond-bathroom-bills-wejustneedtopee-selfies

2naSalit

(86,775 posts)
20. I love the campaign!
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 05:10 PM
Apr 2016

"We just need to pee"!!! Love it.

At first the first couple images of the guy in the bathroom with the women (look like women to me) I thought it was him taking the picture of himself in a ladies' room while the females were looking like they had some kind of stink eye going on as if to say. "Really, dude? Is this what we have to live with now?" Maybe they were and I just didn't hae the context.

Thank you for filling me in! I know people of all kinds and i have always had a special feeling of compassion for those with such realities, people expect life to be like they see it on the teevee and anything that is unlike that is to be feared and dissed in the most cruel ways possible... and then there are some who just have never had any contact of info about these things outside of the messed up, schitzoid, whatever-it-take$ M$M.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
11. Cruz nor Trump will EVAH see the inside of the White House -
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 01:08 PM
Apr 2016

So as NC's economy tumbles into the tube - and trump mocking the cries of Eric Garner - seriously - This is what their base wants to hear??? - disgusting....

keithbvadu2

(36,906 posts)
13. Republicans want to keep it same sex.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 03:14 PM
Apr 2016

Like Dennis Hastert setting up a chair so he could watch young boys naked in the shower.

No opposite gender peeking problems there.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
22. Now he's just being stupid
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:22 AM
Apr 2016

A Transgender person will look like the sex they ID with, so following this would mean the men would see people who look like women in their bathroom and vice versa. Cruz isn't even imagining what it would look like. He's merely trying to punish everyone for the world being other than he thinks it should be.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
25. "A Transgender person will look like the sex they ID with"
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 08:02 AM
Apr 2016

This is not true. Transgender people (just like anyone else) do not need to conform to any particular appearance.

Not even sure that your statement actually has any discernible meaning. That is to say, that one sex looks a certain way.

There are also more and more gender fluid people and others who reject the concept of the binary gender identity.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
27. It likely happens every day and no one notices
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 04:02 PM
Apr 2016

So why is it even an issue. IOW trans women will look like women in the ladies room. Unless you specifically know the person and they they are trans. I see Caitlyn Jenner in the ladies and I know but otherwise I just would not.

You are bringing in another issue. If someone is a woman and identifies as a woman and somehow strikes strangers as a man and try to throw her out of the ladies room, you have another issue.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
28. How about de-gendered bathrooms?
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 04:35 PM
Apr 2016

That is to say, bathrooms that any one can use regardless of gender identity?

Several colleges have implemented that policy on their campuses.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
23. Cruz and his wife need to visit some place
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 10:04 AM
Apr 2016

where they will ask for their birth certificates before they can use the facilities!

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