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stevedeshazer

(21,653 posts)
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 08:54 PM Jun 2012

Wyden blocks intelligence bill amid concerns over civil liberties

Source: The Oregonian

WASHINGTON – Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., on Monday blocked quick passage of controversial intelligence bill amid concerns that it gives the government too much power to secretly collect data on U.S. citizens.

Wyden’s decision to place a “hold” on a bill that would extend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act for five years is just the latest installment in his long-running skirmish with the White House over the rules and practices for collecting and analyzing massive amounts of digital data.

Wyden has sought details for months on the number of Americans whose data has been collected as part of surveillance of foreign citizens who are or interest to intelligence officials. The government has yet to provide an answer that satisfies Wyden.

The second concern is that a U.S. citizen could have his or her personal information and communication analyzed as a by-product of an operation directed at a foreign citizen. Wyden is demanding that the government first obtain a warrant to review the information about the U.S citizen. Current law considers that additional information to be covered by the original warrant giving permission to monitor a foreign citizen, a practice Wyden condemns as a “backdoor” search.

Read more: http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/06/wyden_blocks_intelligence_bill.html



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Wyden blocks intelligence bill amid concerns over civil liberties (Original Post) stevedeshazer Jun 2012 OP
K&R!! jannyk Jun 2012 #1
Wyden jpbollma Jun 2012 #2
Wyden may be grandstanding- he did the same thing less than a year ago and... Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #3
Of course he is. stevedeshazer Jun 2012 #9
I've voted for him since '96. He's hardly a windsock and still has acres more... Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #12
What happened to him? Quantess Jun 2012 #14
It's like there's an election coming up. OnyxCollie Jun 2012 #11
Thank you Senator Wyden. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #4
yes! Phlem Jun 2012 #5
Thank you, Senator Wyden. JDPriestly Jun 2012 #6
Way to go Ron!! Jake2413 Jun 2012 #7
How is the Pres Obama admin weighing in on this issue? nm rhett o rick Jun 2012 #8
Makes me proud to call him my Senator. WHEN CRABS ROAR Jun 2012 #10
SEN. WYDEN NEEDS SUPPORT BY FENCE SITTING SENATORS drynberg Jun 2012 #13

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
3. Wyden may be grandstanding- he did the same thing less than a year ago and...
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 09:16 PM
Jun 2012

...then turned around and supported the legislation he'd blocked...after he was promised a Senate Intelligence Committee hearing into intelligence gathering- which came to nothing.

First, the flip: Senator vows to block surveillance bill over privacy concerns
Then, the FLOP: 2 senators win promise of a Patriot Act hearing

I voted for the guy but if he pulls something similar in the near future, he's going to start looking like a joke.

PB

stevedeshazer

(21,653 posts)
9. Of course he is.
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 11:30 PM
Jun 2012

You've nailed it. It's what he does. I acknowledge that this is good, but I won't forget his support of Medicare privatization with Paul Ryan. I want him primaried and replaced by a real progressive in 2016. To think he based his career on his work with the Gray Panthers and senior citizens, now he wants to rip their Medicare benefits.

Dude is a total windsock. And he lives in New York, not Oregon.

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
12. I've voted for him since '96. He's hardly a windsock and still has acres more...
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:53 AM
Jun 2012

...street cred than President Obama.

Just sayin'

PB

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
14. What happened to him?
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 07:07 AM
Jun 2012

Or has he always been hit-or miss and I just never noticed before?

This is going to sound extremely cynical... I wonder if he plays hard to get but not impossible, hoping for someone to buy him out for just the right price? Obviously that is a harsh accusation but hey, this is just a discussion board.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
6. Thank you, Senator Wyden.
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 09:53 PM
Jun 2012

Surely, if the government can deploy large numbers of luggage checkers and security people at every airport, large or small, it can get a warrant before it snoops on American citizens.

It is illogical to think that we can have a huge National Security apparatus all over the place but no efficient but protective process for getting warrants issued under the Fourth Amendment.

This bill and the comprehensive surveillance plan it includes are hogwash, pure and simple hogwash.

drynberg

(1,648 posts)
13. SEN. WYDEN NEEDS SUPPORT BY FENCE SITTING SENATORS
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 06:44 AM
Jun 2012

Well Senators, it's time to "Cowboy Up" and join the defense of our liberties. Not some undisclosed time in the future, or after the election, no, RIGHT FRIGGIN' NOW.

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