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UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 08:10 PM Jun 2012

Ex-UK PM Brown: Murdoch lied under oath to inquiry

Source: Associated Press via Fort Worth Star Telegram

LONDON — Former Prime Minister Gordon Brown lambasted Rupert Murdoch before Britain's media ethics inquiry on Monday, claiming the media mogul had lied under oath to the inquiry and saying that a Murdoch tabloid had undermined the British war effort in Afghanistan.

In an often bitter attack, Brown directly contradicted Murdoch's claim that Brown had vowed to "make war on your company" during an abusive phone call after Murdoch's The Sun tabloid switched its support from Brown's Labour Party to the rival Conservatives.

"It didn't happen," said Brown, adding that he had been shocked to hear Murdoch make the allegation to the inquiry in April. "This call did not happen, this threat was not made."

<snip>

The ethics inquiry was set up last year after revelations that Murdoch's now-defunct News of the World had hacked the mobile phone voice mails of scores of celebrities, politicians and even crime victims in its quest for scoops. Murdoch closed the paper in July.

Read more: http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/06/11/4021992/former-uk-pm-brown-to-appear-at.html



it's now across the pond and in the US - hoping that it becomes a story that resonates in the consciousness of everyone

Rupert Murdoch is a liar
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Ex-UK PM Brown: Murdoch lied under oath to inquiry (Original Post) UpInArms Jun 2012 OP
Duh Iliyah Jun 2012 #1
If anybody would have a recording of that "call", it would be Murdoch & Co. SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2012 #2
I hope that they can prove that Murdock is a liar...nt. Stuart G Jun 2012 #3
I hope that they eventually close Fox News? Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2012 #4
Surely that would be change of ownership dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #8
Looking forward to the day we can revoke that bastard's US citizenship. beac Jun 2012 #5
Considering BigThrill Jun 2012 #6
welcome to DU! UpInArms Jun 2012 #7
tyvm BigThrill Jun 2012 #11
Its not proven that he lied though. cstanleytech Jun 2012 #9
yes BigThrill Jun 2012 #12
That's 2 years dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #13
Rupert Murdoch denies Gordon Brown claims over Leveson evidence dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #10
Nae fan o Rupert Murdoch MichaelMcGuire Jun 2012 #14

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
1. Duh
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 08:46 PM
Jun 2012

Fake news also his baby. He with the rest of the corporate minions (not all) want to control the most the powerful country in the world (America).

Thats the right wing motto "Lie, cheat, steal, bear false witness, and MORE MONEY HONEY OF ME..............

beac

(9,992 posts)
5. Looking forward to the day we can revoke that bastard's US citizenship.
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 09:15 PM
Jun 2012

His becoming an American was one of the worst things that ever happened to this country.

BigThrill

(15 posts)
6. Considering
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 09:21 PM
Jun 2012

Considering how big and important this was, and the fact the every person knew how important it is/was, Murdoch should get the full extent of the law thrown at him. There is no excuse for such nefarious behavior.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
9. Its not proven that he lied though.
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 04:56 AM
Jun 2012

All we have atm is the word of Brown and he isnt exactly the most trustworthy person himself.

BigThrill

(15 posts)
12. yes
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 07:41 AM
Jun 2012

I will certainly agree to that.
Was just working from the standpoint that what the Prime Minister said was in fact true.
And I will say that the full extent of the law should be thrown at him and the case still. Even if its to gather ever fact and find him innocent. But should he be found guilty, there should be no lesser charges. It should be for the max.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
13. That's 2 years
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:19 AM
Jun 2012

We don't have penal servitude any more :

Perjury is a statutory offence in England and Wales. It is created by section 1(1) of the Perjury Act 1911. Section 1 of that Act reads:

(1) If any person lawfully sworn as a witness or as an interpreter in a judicial proceeding wilfully makes a statement material in that proceeding, which he knows to be false or does not believe to be true, he shall be guilty of perjury, and shall, on conviction thereof on indictment, be liable to penal servitude for a term not exceeding seven years, or to imprisonment . . . for a term not exceeding two years, or to a fine or to both such penal servitude or imprisonment and fine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perjury#England_and_Wales

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
10. Rupert Murdoch denies Gordon Brown claims over Leveson evidence
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 05:08 AM
Jun 2012

Rupert Murdoch has insisted that he "stands by" testimony he gave to the Leveson Inquiry that Gordon Brown telephoned him in 2009 to say he had 'declared war' on his News Corporation business.

Today, former Prime Minister Brown told the Leveson under oath that he never made an 'unbalanced' call to the media mogul after The Sun shifted its support to the Conservatives ahead of the 2010 election.

However, almost immediately after Brown had completed his evidence, Murdoch's News Corp issued a statement in response, saying: "Rupert Murdoch stands behind his testimony."

Jun 11 2012, 15:45 BST http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/news/a386549/rupert-murdoch-denies-gordon-brown-claims-over-leveson-evidence.html

As you can see from the above UK time stamp the denial occurred almost immediately after Brown's evidence. That's just a convenient link - we had it on tv news tickers yesterday afternoon here. Will be interesting to see who can subsequently prove what in the event of a perjury charge. I hope there is a perjury charge : witnesses would be obliged to answer only the questions asked as opposed to side tracking into speeches.

 

MichaelMcGuire

(1,684 posts)
14. Nae fan o Rupert Murdoch
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:44 AM
Jun 2012

But Gordon Brown, was well known for his temper and obsessions with the media. I could believe that he would phone to say he's displeased at headlines and articles.

"He became even more temperamental about his coverage in the media, obsessively monitoring the press headlines and the prominence he was getting in television news bulletins. If his speeches and initiatives were ignored or got less coverage than David Cameron, he would "lash out" at those around him. A dark pall descended on the whole building. An official noted that "he surrounded himself with people who amplified his weaknesses rather than compensated for them. There was no camaraderie. It was a quite depressive, introverted, dysfunctional coterie." Long-standing members of his inner circle had endured Brown's temper for years and accepted the tantrums as part of the price of working for a complex man they admired. One veteran of his court says: "Over the years, I've had all sorts of things thrown at me – newspapers, pens, Coke cans." This sort of behaviour was a shock to staff at Number 10 who had been accustomed to the courteous manners of Tony Blair and John Major. "Gordon's mood was absolutely black the whole time. He was in a permanent state of rage," observes one civil servant. "Staff were afraid of him because he was always shouting at people, being unpleasant, constantly blaming people for things going wrong. He never had a nice word to say to anybody."

Another official agrees: "He was astonishingly rude to people." Civil servants were shocked by his habit of abruptly getting up and leaving meetings when officials were in the middle of speaking. He became notorious within the building for shouting at the duty clerks, bawling at the superbly professional staff who manned the Number 10 switchboard and blowing up at the affectionately regarded "Garden Girls", so called because the room from which they provide Downing Street's secretarial services overlooks the garden. When one of the secretaries was not typing fast enough for an angrily impatient Prime Minister, he turfed the stunned garden girl out of her chair and took over the keyboard himself. Word of these incidents reached the alarmed ears of the Cabinet Secretary, Sir Gus O'Donnell, who was becoming increasingly anxious about the Prime Minister's behaviour. The Cabinet Secretary was so concerned about the garden girl episode that he made his own inquiries into it. Though the worst excesses of the Prime Minister's temper were kept hidden, it was inevitable that some accounts began to filter out across Whitehall and then into the media, which reported stories about mobile phones being hurled in fury and the furniture being kicked. One civil servant who applied for a position at Number 10 was asked at the interview whether he could cope with "extreme verbal abuse" and violence done to objects. The civil servant was so scared by the description of what it could be like to work for the Prime Minister that he withdrew his application."

"Brown's exhaustion and sense of isolation made his temper even shorter and blacker. Officials became more apprehensive than ever about delivering unwelcome news for fear of the reaction. One aide with bad tidings decided to break it to the boss when they were travelling in the back of the Prime Minister's Jaguar. As was customary, the aide took the rear seat behind the driver. Brown sat behind the protection officer. The cream upholstery of the seat back in front of Brown was flecked with black marks. When having a meltdown, the Prime Minister would habitually stab the seat back with his black marker pen. On this occasion, what the aide had to tell the Prime Minister provoked a more scary response than the stabbing of the pen. Face like thunder, Brown reacted by swinging back an arm and clenching his fist. The aide cowered back, fearing that the Prime Minister was about to hit him in the face. Brown crashed his fist into the back of the passenger seat in front of him. The protection officer flinched. This was happening more and more often. The Prime Minister's compulsion to vent his temper by hitting the upholstery became so regular that sitting in front of him was regarded as the worst duty among the protection squad."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/feb/21/gordon-brown-rage-despair

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