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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 05:48 PM Apr 2016

Stephen Hawking and Billionaire Team Up on $100 Million Quest to Find Alien Life

Source: ABC NEWS

Stephen Hawking and Russian billionaire Yuri Milner are teaming up in a $100 million hunt for alien life that will rely on a fleet of postage stamp-sized spacecraft to explore the universe.
Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg will also join Milner and Hawking on the board of Breakthrough Starshot, a philanthropic initiative to focus on space exploration and the search for life in the universe.

Astronomers believe an Earth-like planet could exist within the "habitable zones" of Alpha Centauri, the closest star system to Earth, located 25 trillion miles (or 4.37 light-years) away.

Each nanocraft would carry cameras, photon thrusters, power supplies, navigation and communication equipment, and the newly engineered "lightsail," which would propel each probe. If a single nanocraft makes it to Alpha Centauri after a 20-year journey, it would take an additional four years to transmit that information back to Earth.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/stephen-hawking-billionaire-team-100-million-quest-find/story?id=38331436



A postage stamp-sized spacecraft that will carry cameras, photon thrusters, power supplies, navigation and communication equipment?
Amazing !
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Stephen Hawking and Billionaire Team Up on $100 Million Quest to Find Alien Life (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Apr 2016 OP
Make up your fucking mind Hawking! MowCowWhoHow III Apr 2016 #1
I like this one Travis_0004 Apr 2016 #4
These probes are NOT able to contact any civilization there. He has made up his mind. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #5
The probes "phone home" Genius MowCowWhoHow III Apr 2016 #6
The scariest possibility ... D Gary Grady Apr 2016 #10
Expect it. MowCowWhoHow III Apr 2016 #11
Sure if radio is used but the plan is they communicate by light beams to earth. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #13
I know the mode of communication MowCowWhoHow III Apr 2016 #14
Logically not a problem Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #16
There's a difference between knowing someone is there and someone invading your space MowCowWhoHow III Apr 2016 #18
Mmm... Post-Macaroni Aliens. Orrex Apr 2016 #30
they likely know we are here and want nothing to do with us Skittles Apr 2016 #34
Cool shit Tab Apr 2016 #2
Who's to say? forest444 Apr 2016 #25
Good God! They're more horrible than I dared imagine! Orrex Apr 2016 #31
If my math is right, if this was launched tommorow, it would pass voyager 1 in 10 days. Travis_0004 Apr 2016 #3
It would take much longer. Acceleration by photon is very slow. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #19
Makes sense Travis_0004 Apr 2016 #28
I think the $100 million should be spent on other things. Gomez163 Apr 2016 #7
Enough to give 20 million poor people an extra $1 a year for five years D Gary Grady Apr 2016 #24
... DRoseDARs Apr 2016 #33
have they examined Donald Trump yet? Alien life might be right here on Earth. olddad56 Apr 2016 #8
Living in Trump's hair? n/t left-of-center2012 Apr 2016 #29
No. It IS trumps hair n/t Pakhet Apr 2016 #32
Yes $100 million all for me! whistler162 Apr 2016 #9
Art Bell should be the Project Director. Kingofalldems Apr 2016 #12
No. He is too stupid and unimaginative (fantasy conspiracy theories do not count) . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #17
Pssst, it was a joke. Kingofalldems Apr 2016 #20
I know. He pulled my leg so I handed it to him. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #21
How many species of living things reside tavernier Apr 2016 #15
Well yeah, we don't need to run into Spock to make finding alien lifeforms worthwhile Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #22
I take your point tavernier Apr 2016 #27
saving earth from space aliens keithbvadu2 Apr 2016 #23
He's going to need a bigger budget. rug Apr 2016 #26
Try a higher dimension Steve! Pharaoh Apr 2016 #35
So cool! ZombieHorde Apr 2016 #36

MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
1. Make up your fucking mind Hawking!
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 06:00 PM
Apr 2016
Stephen Hawking: alien life is out there, scientist warns

Stephen Hawking has suggested that aliens almost certainly exist but has warned humanity not to try to contact them.

"If aliens ever visit us, I think the outcome would be much as when Christopher Columbus first landed in America, which didn't turn out very well for the American Indians."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/space/7631252/Stephen-Hawking-alien-life-is-out-there-scientist-warns.html
 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
4. I like this one
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 06:15 PM
Apr 2016

The newest children in a strange and uncertain cosmos should listen quietly for a long time, patiently learning about the universe and comparing notes, before shouting into an unknown jungle that we do not understand.-Carly Sagan

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,007 posts)
5. These probes are NOT able to contact any civilization there. He has made up his mind.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 06:35 PM
Apr 2016

He has a lot more in his mind than the "fucking" you mention.

D Gary Grady

(133 posts)
10. The scariest possibility ...
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 07:49 PM
Apr 2016

... is that some of those aliens might have the raged-filled personality of an Internet commenter.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,007 posts)
13. Sure if radio is used but the plan is they communicate by light beams to earth.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:16 PM
Apr 2016

Light beams are not broadcast radio.

They use light beams because then you can get more of the power to the solar system receivers instead of spreading it with a radio. Tight beams do not spill radio waves outside of the antenna & transmitter unit like radio does unless the radio has heavy shielding.

Genius yourself. Golly.

MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
14. I know the mode of communication
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:26 PM
Apr 2016

The probes know how to send info back to Earth, hence they can easily be reverse engineered to reveal the Earth's location. Or are these aliens Earth fuckwit caliber?

How would your neighbor feel if you were perving at them with a mini-drone which happened to ID your home. A visit with a baseball bat would probably be in your future.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,007 posts)
16. Logically not a problem
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:36 PM
Apr 2016

If there are even advanced aliens (post-Marconi aliens) at Alpha Centauri, ...

We can't detect tiny nano probes zipping through our solar system at 20% c. If the aliens are sufficiently advanced to detect the teeny tiny probes zipping through at 20 % light speed, then they have already detected us more than 100 years ago when we started radio communications here on earth.

If the aliens are capable of capturing 20 % c probes (we are not capable, let alone detecting), then they are super advanced and that is why we can't detect their radio / TV / microwave because they would be so advance they wouldn't be using it. If they are less advanced and use electromagnetic communications other than tight light beams, we would have already detected them.

We have not detected them, so they are not there or they are super advanced.

If they are super-advanced, then they know all about us already and we better know about them like yesterday rather than remain ignorant of them.

Either way, sending a probe does not tip our hand and does not contradict Hawking's previous statements.

Hawking has a "fucking mind", hunh? Look in a mirror, please.

MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
18. There's a difference between knowing someone is there and someone invading your space
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:40 PM
Apr 2016

Even with a teeny-weeny Hawking approved nanoprobe.

But it won't affect Hawking either way.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
3. If my math is right, if this was launched tommorow, it would pass voyager 1 in 10 days.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 06:12 PM
Apr 2016

Pretty damn quick when voyager one got a 38 year head start.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,007 posts)
19. It would take much longer. Acceleration by photon is very slow.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:41 PM
Apr 2016

Light pressure is almost negligible. It will take a long time for photons hitting the sail to accelerate it.

Photons have such little mass that we can't yet measure it.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
28. Makes sense
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:30 PM
Apr 2016

I just took the average speed over the whole trip. I realize acceleration would take a bit of time.

 

Gomez163

(2,039 posts)
7. I think the $100 million should be spent on other things.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 07:16 PM
Apr 2016

Like helping the poor, the needy, the homeless. How about the refugees. We don't need to go looking for little green men. They will find us soon enough.

D Gary Grady

(133 posts)
24. Enough to give 20 million poor people an extra $1 a year for five years
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:58 PM
Apr 2016

I strongly support programs that help people in need. But I don't think that means we should never spend any money at all on anything else.

We're talking about a total cost from private sources of $100 million over several years. The U.S. spends almost $500 million in a single year on public broadcasting, and even that is only about one ten-thousandth of the federal budget. (It's also less than private support for PBS and NPR.)

The federal government spends nearly $400 billion a year (billion with a B) on non-healthcare safety net programs for the poor (SSI, SNAP, WIC, TANF, school lunches, housing assistance, unemployment insurance, and so on). I'd be in favor of expanding that, and while we're at it greatly increasing the relative pittance we spend on helping alleviate poverty overseas as well. But again, I don't think that means we can't also spend something on science and the arts.

Four years ago Steve Haroz published a graph comparing U.S. spending on science versus defense. The most striking thing was that even after adjusting for inflation, the grand total of all NASA spending since it was created in 1958 -- sending humans to the Moon and robot probes throughout the solar system while vastly expanded our knowledge of global warming and other things -- added up to less than we spent on defense for one year.

If you're looking to help those in need, I'm with you, but there are a lot better places to find the money than in a relatively microscopic program sponsored by private donations.

tavernier

(12,392 posts)
15. How many species of living things reside
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:33 PM
Apr 2016

on our own home planet? And we have not as yet learned to communicate and converse with a single one. Somehow I can't picture running into Spock and friends out there.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,007 posts)
22. Well yeah, we don't need to run into Spock to make finding alien lifeforms worthwhile
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:48 PM
Apr 2016

If we had to perfect every small and medium step before we made big steps, we'd still be using solid wood cart wheels.

tavernier

(12,392 posts)
27. I take your point
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:25 PM
Apr 2016

and I considered that as well. The cynic in me simply feels that the world won't be enthusiastic if the alien life form turns out to be a jellyfish, when they are expecting Superman.

keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
23. saving earth from space aliens
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:51 PM
Apr 2016

saving earth from space aliens

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/scientists-offer-plan-to-hide-earth-from-advanced-space-aliens_us_56febba1e4b083f5c607a91b

Scientists Offer Plan To Hide Earth From Advanced Space Aliens


"Some scientists have expressed concerns that if aliens knew we were here, they might want to come to Earth to plunder our planet’s resources — or worse. Renowned physicist Stephen Hawking, for one, has said that an advanced alien civilization might wipe out the human race the way a person might wipe out a colony of ants."

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