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seafan

(9,387 posts)
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 05:42 PM Apr 2016

Bob Graham gets call from White House; word that declassification of secret 9/11 documents underway

Source: Tampa Bay Times

After years of pushing to gain public release of 28 secret pages of a report on the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, former U.S. Sen. Bob Graham said he got a call from the White House on Tuesday.

Graham told the Tampa Bay Times that Brett Holmgren, a senior policy adviser to the assistant to the president for Homeland Security, told him the declassification review of the documents withheld from a report issued by a Joint Congressional Commission in 2003 will soon be completed.

Graham, who asked the president to declassify the records more than two years ago, said he asked how soon he could expect a decision and was told “one or two months.” Graham was co-chairman of a joint congressional committee that investigated the attacks.

The 28 pages were classified at the request of the FBI. Graham has been pushing for release of the documents since 2011 when he learned that the FBI had failed to disclose part of its investigation that included reports that high-ranking Saudi Arabian officials provided financial aid and other help to the 19 hijackers who flew airplanes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. He says the FBI initially denied there were such reports but has since turned over 80,000 pages in a federal lawsuit seeking the release of all reports on the investigation.

Graham said he believes recent news reports on the secrecy surrounding the 28 pages, including a report Sunday on 60 Minutes, prompted the White House to react.



Read more: http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/bob-graham-gets-call-from-white-house-and-word-that-declassification-of/2272945



Stunning and long overdue developments.

Thank you, Senator Graham, for your unwavering determination and patriotism.

Former Gov. Bob Graham goes on 60 Minutes to talk about Saudi/911 hijackers connections, April 10, 2016


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Bob Graham gets call from White House; word that declassification of secret 9/11 documents underway (Original Post) seafan Apr 2016 OP
Thanks indeed! K&R closeupready Apr 2016 #1
A heartfelt WOW Mira Apr 2016 #2
The Bush Family must be very nervous right now Botany Apr 2016 #3
Not to worry, Hillary on the job! Human101948 Apr 2016 #7
Hillary is a political animal and if the stink of the Saudi/9-11 "thing" gets to the Bushes .... Botany Apr 2016 #11
But The Clinton's Are And Have Been VERY CLOSE With The Bushes ChiciB1 Apr 2016 #39
He will probably receive 28 pages, all totally redacted! Dustlawyer Apr 2016 #44
No she won't. mdbl Apr 2016 #54
You make this allegation based on what? lark Apr 2016 #62
Obama protected them. n/t Gore1FL Apr 2016 #66
I make it based on the fact that she is in the pocket of big money mdbl Apr 2016 #70
Good try. Fail. Kingofalldems Apr 2016 #23
bernie bros saturnsring Apr 2016 #24
Monkey face. BeanMusical Apr 2016 #47
Go back to the primaries forum with your Democrat bashing Democat Apr 2016 #50
Rosy cheeks Fairgo Apr 2016 #56
glad someone else remembers about marvin bush. mopinko Apr 2016 #10
Or that Marvin's family maid happened to get killed by a run away car shortly after 9/11. Botany Apr 2016 #12
i guess it took a long time for pinochet to come to justice. mopinko Apr 2016 #36
Why would anyone be nervous? hughee99 Apr 2016 #30
I hope they are nervous! Duval Apr 2016 #34
The Carlyle Group, The Ritz and beyond... SouthernKrozz Apr 2016 #68
Release the TRUTH KRAKEN on the Republcan FAIL Freaks who abetted 9/11 AxionExcel Apr 2016 #4
Finally. jwirr Apr 2016 #5
I'm surprised. herding cats Apr 2016 #6
How long have we been talking about this on this forum.........years. Loki Apr 2016 #8
Over a decade.. annabanana Apr 2016 #16
If there was a cover up of financing that qualifies as a conspiracy. pauldp Apr 2016 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Apr 2016 #58
My jaw is on the floor too. But “one or two months” ? Duppers Apr 2016 #9
After. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2016 #13
Yep. Duppers Apr 2016 #14
Repukes will fight tooth and nail to delay release (IF THAT EVEN HAPPENS) NoMoreRepugs Apr 2016 #17
the declassification review of the documents . . . (in)“one or two months.” Ptah Apr 2016 #15
This is exciting news passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #18
I'll believe it when I see and read it. 4bucksagallon Apr 2016 #20
Charlie Brown. Football. You know how this works. Frank Cannon Apr 2016 #63
Declassified; Does that mean...... Hotler Apr 2016 #21
They'll probably look like black construction paper from all the redaction hopeforchange2008 Apr 2016 #22
Date : XXXXXXXXX XX, 20XX Wednesdays Apr 2016 #43
No doubt! mdbl Apr 2016 #55
Maybe, but there have been a few interesting cases of the groups trying to redact Stryst Apr 2016 #69
K & R !!! Thespian2 Apr 2016 #25
Former President Cheney must be worried putitinD Apr 2016 #26
Former (REDACTED) Richard D Apr 2016 #29
I'm with the "Believe it When I see it Crowd." KoKo Apr 2016 #27
K&R! felix_numinous Apr 2016 #28
But what about Hillary's ties to the Saudis? grasswire Apr 2016 #31
Guess that remains to be seen, if ever. Duval Apr 2016 #35
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #51
You sound like a cult follower. grasswire Apr 2016 #60
Who shorted the airline stocks GoldenMean Apr 2016 #32
I agree with you. The others here are way too optimistic. lostnfound Apr 2016 #38
Doesn't look good for the Obamas being invited by Bushes for Thanksgiving dinner. /nt SDjack Apr 2016 #33
but the Clintons and the Bushes are still thick as thieves! nt grasswire Apr 2016 #37
Will we finally get concrete answers about financing christx30 Apr 2016 #40
Declassify ALL and tell us who did it and how much Bush and Cheney knew. joanbarnes Apr 2016 #41
KnR!!! KansDem Apr 2016 #65
This should get interesting. progressoid Apr 2016 #42
A Lot Is Suspect In The Official Narrative colsohlibgal Apr 2016 #45
I'll wager it's a ... nikto Apr 2016 #46
Good. Looking forward to it. Zira Apr 2016 #48
Is the WH trying to help Hillary at the NY debate? Califonz Apr 2016 #49
The Saudis are not our friends. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #52
Finally EdwardBernays Apr 2016 #53
Most of the 9-11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia Triana Apr 2016 #57
Yeah...sure...right... SHRED Apr 2016 #59
they will look like this... Javaman Apr 2016 #61
I'm afraid you might be correct KansDem Apr 2016 #64
"One or two months," heh heh. sofa king Apr 2016 #67

Botany

(70,516 posts)
3. The Bush Family must be very nervous right now
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 05:47 PM
Apr 2016

Because who was w/HW Bush on the morning of 9-11? That would be members
of the bin Laden family. And what Bush brother was connected to security @ the
WTC and Boston's Logan Airport? That would be Marvin Bush.

Our good friends from the House of Saud need to be outed along w/their partners
in America.

The Saudis in Florida that ran away prior to 9-11?

http://gawker.com/5838498/the-mysterious-saudi-family-that-vanished-two-weeks-before-911


Botany

(70,516 posts)
11. Hillary is a political animal and if the stink of the Saudi/9-11 "thing" gets to the Bushes ....
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 06:25 PM
Apr 2016

.... she will throw them under the bus in a heart beat.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
39. But The Clinton's Are And Have Been VERY CLOSE With The Bushes
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:13 PM
Apr 2016

for so many, many years. There must be hundreds of pictures and articles floating around. I've ALWAYS been very upset by this closeness, have yet to understand it to this day, but even Clinton supporters must realize they DO have a friendship (I do believe Bill has called it that) for quite some time. Didn't Bill bestow some honor on Poppa Bush 2 or 3 years ago? I forgot what it was, but they were pretty chummy down there in Texas.

I'm sure it's because I've become so cynical that I really WONDER why Obama is finally agreeing to this. Or is he just going to have a "talk" with Graham. Bob Graham has had knowledge of what is in the pages for a very long time but has never been able to divulge their contents from what I understand. I've heard him comment on shows these past years and I think it's one of the main reasons he voted against the war. And this is information that was available to those who voted FOR the war too. I'm almost sure he's made this point in the past.

I wonder what's up! Sounds too good to be true so I'll try NOT to get my hopes up. I've stopped counting the hundreds of times when I thought something informative or helpful to "we the people" seemed about to happen only to find in the end that HOPING never actually did anything.

Obama has already endorsed Hillary, DWS and Patrick Murphy and IMO all are very DLC/Third Way Democrats so it doesn't seem like he would do ANYTHING to upset Hillary or her chances.

Oh well, since NY is a closed Primary state maybe he thinks it won't hurt her. Bernie and his policies weren't very well known back in March when the deadline for changing Party affiliation ended. Even FL's date was after NY's. Closed Primary states have ALWAYS disgusted me. I live in Florida and have never liked the process. I think it hurts most citizens regardless of who the candidate is.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
54. No she won't.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 06:09 AM
Apr 2016

Hillary will find a reason to protect the Bushes, something this country doesn't need.

lark

(23,105 posts)
62. You make this allegation based on what?
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:04 PM
Apr 2016

I don't remember them being kind to GW when he was president and HW hated them when he left the WH. Now, I understand he and Bill got closer during the Haiti thing, but never have heard of either of them saying anything good about dimson.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
70. I make it based on the fact that she is in the pocket of big money
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 06:31 AM
Apr 2016

and the Bushes are big money. The current DWS/DNC/DLCC/DLC type that is Hillary and Bill Clinton protect their own.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
50. Go back to the primaries forum with your Democrat bashing
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:52 AM
Apr 2016

Keep your pro-Trump trolling confined to the forum created for it.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
12. Or that Marvin's family maid happened to get killed by a run away car shortly after 9/11.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 06:30 PM
Apr 2016

Oh well I guess that might just be random chance like Poppy Bush being w/
Saudis and members of the bin Laden Family the morning of 911.

Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A22231-2004Mar24.html

President Bush's top counterterrorism adviser warned seven days before the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorism attacks that hundreds of people could die in a strike by the al Qaeda network and that the administration was not doing enough to combat the threat, the commission investigating the attacks disclosed yesterday.


Richard A. Clarke, who served as a senior White House counterterrorism official under three successive presidents, wrote to national security adviser Condoleezza Rice on Sept. 4, 2001, urging "policymakers to imagine a day after a terrorist attack, with hundreds of Americans dead at home and abroad, and ask themselves what they could have done earlier," according to a summary of the letter included in a commission staff report. Clarke also cites the same plea in his new book.

Clarke told the commission in testimony yesterday afternoon that whereas the Clinton administration treated terrorism as its highest priority, the Bush administration did not consider it to be an urgent issue before the attacks.

"I believe the Bush administration in the first eight months considered terrorism an important issue but not an urgent issue," Clarke told the 10-member panel. ". . . There was a process underway to address al Qaeda. But although I continued to say it was an urgent problem, I don't think it was ever treated that way."

mopinko

(70,120 posts)
36. i guess it took a long time for pinochet to come to justice.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:44 PM
Apr 2016

i should expect no less of these gangsters.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
30. Why would anyone be nervous?
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:29 PM
Apr 2016

They're being declassified, not seen for the first time. What do you think is going to be there, Bush, Cheney, Trump and Bin Laden planning the attacks together?

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
34. I hope they are nervous!
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:41 PM
Apr 2016

I think John McCain may be caught up in this, too. We'll see. And what about the Saudis that flew out of New York, when other planes were grounded.

SouthernKrozz

(1 post)
68. The Carlyle Group, The Ritz and beyond...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 05:06 PM
Apr 2016

Post 9-11 I couldn't get a high-tech job in the US and had an opportunity to find work in the Middle East.

I worked in a Sultanate as a Sr. IT Advisor. During one of my projects we were asked to archive and digitize documents, I came across the flight manifest after 9-11 that got the Sultanate's contingency back home during the Air Travel Ban. Interesting routes... Maybe they took in a Ray's game to boot... Maybe I'll recognize my former bosses name ... Just sayin'!

Loki

(3,825 posts)
8. How long have we been talking about this on this forum.........years.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 06:16 PM
Apr 2016

Not the conspiracy theory crap, but the real coverup by the Bush Administration and their very close ties to the Saudi Royal family. They were either to dumb to connect the dots, or they just didn't care. Interesting how we don't hear anything from Rumsfeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz or GW anymore. This is going to get interesting. Project for the New American Century, ah I remember those words well. Thank you Senator Graham for keeping this a focus of your determination for Americans to finally hear the truth.

pauldp

(1,890 posts)
19. If there was a cover up of financing that qualifies as a conspiracy.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 07:10 PM
Apr 2016

Accessory after the fact to those aiding and abetting mass murder.

Response to Loki (Reply #8)

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
9. My jaw is on the floor too. But “one or two months” ?
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 06:23 PM
Apr 2016

Or after the primaries? Color me skeptical.


NoMoreRepugs

(9,435 posts)
17. Repukes will fight tooth and nail to delay release (IF THAT EVEN HAPPENS)
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 06:52 PM
Apr 2016

until after the election or else they get blown out of the water for the Bush admin being way too close to the Saudis - who if I am not mistaken are some of those dreaded Muslims I keep hearing about

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
18. This is exciting news
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 07:02 PM
Apr 2016

I do wonder how this will affect Bush or others in his admin. I always wondered why they secreted all the Bin Laden family out of the US so quickly. It didn't look good. And our constant close relationship with Saudi Arabia has always bothered me, since the hijackers were from SA, and because SA has such a poor human rights stance.

Money is the root of all evil. Well almost all. Religion plays a big part in evil too.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
63. Charlie Brown. Football. You know how this works.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:10 PM
Apr 2016

I have never seen a political scandal like this ever amount to anything. Well, Watergate, maybe. But even Nixon was able to retire in comfort from that.

The game is rigged and always will be.

Wednesdays

(17,380 posts)
43. Date : XXXXXXXXX XX, 20XX
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:01 AM
Apr 2016

Dear XXXXXXXXX,

After XXXXing the XXXX of the XXXXXX, I should point out that XXXXX XXXXXXX to XXXXXXXXX is XXXXXX and XXXXXXX. If XXXXXX your XXXXXXXXX XXXXXX, then XXXXXX XXXXXXX in XXXXXXX XXX XXXXXXX.

I hope that clarifies the matter.

Sincerely,
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
31. But what about Hillary's ties to the Saudis?
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:32 PM
Apr 2016

The quid pro quo where the Saudis donated a fortune to the Clinton Foundation in exchange for Hillary's approval of an arms deal?

Response to grasswire (Reply #31)

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
60. You sound like a cult follower.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:29 PM
Apr 2016

I've been a Democrat all my life; always voted for Democrats.

But truth is more important than party, to me. And when a candidate is too flawed to represent Democrats, I am going to push back and demand truth.

The truth is that Hillary approved an arms deal to the Saudis after the Saudis donated a fortune to the Clinton Foundation.

You risk our democracy when you blame all truthful criticisms of Hillary on right wing.

 

GoldenMean

(49 posts)
32. Who shorted the airline stocks
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:33 PM
Apr 2016

The torture tapes and much more were destroyed years ago.
This 28 page reveal is just a "squirrel!!" chew toy to placate the masses.

lostnfound

(16,180 posts)
38. I agree with you. The others here are way too optimistic.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:09 PM
Apr 2016

I hope they are right that it will be a useful document of truth, but I doubt it will tell us enough.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
40. Will we finally get concrete answers about financing
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:18 PM
Apr 2016

from Saudi Arabia? Worst kept secret in the history of ever.

joanbarnes

(1,722 posts)
41. Declassify ALL and tell us who did it and how much Bush and Cheney knew.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:40 PM
Apr 2016

WT7 did not 'fall down'on its own.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
45. A Lot Is Suspect In The Official Narrative
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:12 AM
Apr 2016

So many bought that Oswald and Oswald alone shot JFK...including me till I read up on it and the film of it was finally shown. Since then I have been obsessed with that tragedy and have come to believe LHO was as he said he was in his last appearance before he was silenced...that he was a patsy. So much has come out over time.

I expect things will eventually get out about 9/11, so much does not ring true in that tragedy either.


ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
52. The Saudis are not our friends.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:54 AM
Apr 2016

Just so there is no misunderstanding, I will repeat it and type slowly

THE SAUDIS ARE NOT OUR FRIENDS.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
53. Finally
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:58 AM
Apr 2016

And if makes you wonder of any of the people listed - particularly if there's Saudis - are currently using Clintons Campaign Chairman for lobbying. Because the Saudi Government is.

It's a but like Qatar though - implicated in 9/11, lobbied for by her Campaign Chairman's lobbying firm and embraced as a partner by Clinton ie nothing will happen even if it's the Saudi government.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
57. Most of the 9-11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:03 AM
Apr 2016

Not surprising they received financing from "high-ranking Saudi Arabian officials".

None of them were from Afghanistan. Or Iraq.

I'll just leave this here: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/September_11,_2001:_Evacuation_of_Saudi_Nationals

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
59. Yeah...sure...right...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 10:57 AM
Apr 2016

Not until we see them.

I think this is lip service.
A reaction to the show to calm the public.

If they ever are released they will have gallons of black ink on them.

The system protects itself.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
67. "One or two months," heh heh.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:50 PM
Apr 2016

I have been arguing for fourteen years that the censorship of the Bush Administration conceals liability and enormous crimes, and that keeping the disclosures secret only ensures that the secrecy will be used against the Republican Party for decades to come....

... And now here we are, and all of a sudden this President says he's going to disclose some of the censorship in one or two months, which will give the disclosures five or six weeks to burn through the criminal elite of today's Republican Party like an outbreak of ebola, just before a contested convention which they long to malevolently influence.

And my dark prophecies will come true, with one important exception: I never suspected it would be my own side which uses the 9/11 coverup to destroy the Republicans. I always assumed it would be foreign nationals who would extort from them.

I had forgotten that the truth could some day be used as a weapon against the criminals. Honestly, I still don't believe it will be. They will destroy America before their crimes destroy themselves.

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