Mayor de Blasio, Hillary Clinton ripped for racist joke at Inner Circle show
Source: New York Daily News
Mayor de Blasio and Hillary Clinton are drawing some backlash for a joke invoking a racial stereotype.
In a skit at Saturday nights Inner Circle show, Clinton joined de Blasio on stage as a surprise guest and ribbed him for his long-delayed endorsement of her presidential campaign.
Thanks for the endorsement. Took you long enough, she said.
Sorry, Hillary. I was running on C.P. time, de Blasio replied, in a reference to the phrase colored people time, which comes from the stereotype that black people are frequently late.
That's not I don't like jokes like that, Bill, said Hamilton star Leslie Odom Jr., who plays Aaron Burr in the hit production and also participated in the sketch at the annual charity show put on by the New York press corps to roast the mayor.
Clinton then stepped in to complete the brief gag with an assurance that her belated supporter meant, Cautious Politician Time. I've been there.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/mayor-de-blasio-hillary-clinton-ripped-racial-joke-article-1.2596977
MADem
(135,425 posts)If she's within a mile of anything, she takes the blame.
Depaysement
(1,835 posts)Duh.
MADem
(135,425 posts)revbones
(3,660 posts)Depaysement
(1,835 posts)Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)This was a scripted joke, so Hillary had to read the scripted joke beforehand and did not realize or didn't care how racist it was and let it be performed. This wasn't a spontaneous joke, and she should have known better.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)rpannier
(24,330 posts)When the former New York senator needled de Blasio for taking his time in endorsing her, the progressive mayor responded, Sorry Hillary, I was running on C.P. time. At that point, Leslie Odom Jr., an African-American actor who plays Aaron Burr in the hit musical Hamilton, turned to the two politicians to interject.
I dont like jokes like that, Bill.
Cautious politician time, Clinton awkwardly offered.
Ah! ok, Odom, who was a part of the bit, replied.
appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)to be humorous? in THESE very serious, troubled times of escalating racism, violence, attacks, assaults and murders; arrests, Stop and Frisk and incarceration of blacks and PoC in the US for 20 years, to the level of millions who are sentenced and living behind bars for decades? A planned, scripted 'elite/insider' ha, ha charity 'joke and skit'? This is unbelievable...
pangaia
(24,324 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)people on that stage came from a black family who understand the reference.
This attempt to smear Clinton though? Talk about OBVIOUS. If you don't think people see it for what it is, you aren't looking very hard at all.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)And you keep telling POC what they should and should not be offended by... if it makes you feel better
(six of one, half a dozen of the other-- and each as petulant as the other)
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)apcalc
(4,465 posts)Response to MADem (Reply #1)
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Bangbangdem
(140 posts)Seriously doubt you would give Sanders a pass on this. And he would not have played along.
Gman
(24,780 posts)Nothing to see here.
But if it had been Obama vs hillary, the Obama supporters would be irate, with good reason. God knows The Crown Queen can do no wrong at all.......
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Much as the GOP called Obama the Messiah, I empathize with your petulant desire to call her Crown Queen, we often resort to fifth-grade behavior when we have nothing substantive to add...
(there's a space provided free of charge below to insert a discretion lacking any relevant difference that you indeed, really do have something substantive to add-- we simply overlooked it)
anigbrowl
(13,889 posts)Lamar Odom is dead to me now...not.
TM99
(8,352 posts)how he should feel about a racist comment.
Do y'all even think before you write some of the things I am reading today about this?
anigbrowl
(13,889 posts)seeing as how he saw fit to participate in this joint subversion of a racist trope.
appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)anigbrowl
(13,889 posts)You don't get to frame my remarks to suit your debate agenda.
appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)No answer, that's fine and shows basis on limited personal taste.
anigbrowl
(13,889 posts)Sorry, your rhetorical tricks don't impress me. I don't consider you worthy of a more detailed explanation as your question is clearly insincere.
appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)nothing more, no reframing or tricks applied. You said you based your acceptance on one actor, that's all. And I believe it.
MADem
(135,425 posts)that sort of teasing might happen on a daily basis.
appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)on a national stage at a public venue with a candidate running for President of the United States. How candid. Alrighty!
MADem
(135,425 posts)people" who day-to-day do not give a single SHIT about black people in the slightest have made this a faux issue to plump up their candidate and tear down his opposition.
That's my conclusion.
Alrighty?
appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)you think white people, or black, latino or Asian people do not know of and have close relationships with people of other backgrounds. It's quite common, more than many people, especially conservatives realize.
MADem
(135,425 posts)And all of these "concerned white people" are Sanders supporters.
I got me a grain of salt the size of the Empire State Building.
appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)Nary a black, Asian or Hispanic Bernie supporter in the land. I see.
George II
(67,782 posts)I didn't know they had sketches
George II
(67,782 posts)rpannier
(24,330 posts)Started about 14:20 and watched dying-laughing at his anger translator Luther. Loved it when Luther said, "You don't need an anger translator, you need counseling." Then when Luther told Michelle, "He's crazy."
Absolutely awesome. Almost as funny as Colbert's spoofing of Dumbya.
Thanks for sharing. I could watch that last bit a thousand times and never get bored with it.
George II
(67,782 posts)rpannier
(24,330 posts)As I wrote in another post in this thread:
Leslie Odom Jr., an African-American actor who plays Aaron Burr in the hit musical Hamilton, was in on the act
It's not that uncommon a term in some form, though I've never heard it as CPT
I've heard it mostly used by Hispanics. 'Mexican Time' and 'Puerto Rican Time' were common phrases in NW Indiana. It was used by African Americans and the Slavic communities as well: Polish-Time, Croat Time, etc
I don't think it will resonate like others think it might.
My grandmother's family (all Irish) used the term Irish Time or they were late because of their 'Cork Clock' (They were all from Cork County, Ireland)
Their delivery may have been awkward, but compared to Obama almost every politician will look awkward trying to be funny. In the case of Bush, Dumbya is painful to watch, listen to - period. Same with Cruz
George II
(67,782 posts)....being a skinny old bald guy!
Sadly there's lots of faux outrage about this, many more things to be concerned about.
BTW, Obama has made jokes about Trump's hair at those dinners, called Boehner "John of Orange", etc.
The most tasteless jokes I've seen at any of those dinners was when bush was joking about looking for WMD when we had thousands of troops in Iraq. That was not good, or funny.
appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)...
George II
(67,782 posts)ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)Check social media.
MADem
(135,425 posts)appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)deciding who will be leading the country. Love Sly, we partied with them after a great concert- Sly, Larry, Cynthia the horn player and the fun, rowdy British roadies.
MADem
(135,425 posts)appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)keep me in stitches with assumptions about the lives of the 'powerful'. Ooh, very important..
MADem
(135,425 posts)appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)us, the uniformed. Pretty please, it must be awesome! Oops, or is it a secret?
MADem
(135,425 posts)appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)for all "the blacks" as Scalia said-- in the US and world! Truly astounding...
MADem
(135,425 posts)And those individuals have the right to speak from and for THEIR experience--and you have no input that matters to them.
appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)of millions of others. Incredible!
ALBliberal
(2,342 posts)Even if we somehow give HRC a pass (not sure on that one) his part is inexcusable no matter the race of his wife.
appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)and he can do standup like a pro. Best President in my lifetime.
Thanks for posting!
George II
(67,782 posts)....to know if "skits" were performed at the dinner in addition to the usual stand up comedy and "roast".
I can sit and listen to him speak for hours, just as I used to enjoy watching and listening to Bill Clinton. They're both mesmerizing.
I used to think that Clinton was the best President of my lifetime (I've lived under Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, and bush), but that was until Obama was elected.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)And, "I LIKE IKE" was the first campaign slogan I ever heard.
WJC was a great politician, but I have to admit that I prefer BHO as a man.
rpannier
(24,330 posts)Leslie Odom Jr., an African-American actor who plays Aaron Burr in the hit musical Hamilton, was in on the act
It's not that uncommon a term in some form, though I've never heard it as CPT
I've heard it mostly used by Hispanics. 'Mexican Time' and 'Puerto Rican Time' were common phrases in NW Indiana. It was used by African Americans and the Slavic communities as well: Polish-Time, Croat Time, etc
MADem
(135,425 posts)But we're going to hear a lot of concern, I'm sure, from people who could give a shit about black folks normally, because De Blasio made a joke and HRC turned it into "cautious politician" as the upshot?
rpannier
(24,330 posts)Irish Time or looked at their Cork Clocks when they were late
I support Sanders, but I just don't see this as having any real legs with the general public
The term is probably in almost every ethnic culture in America in some form
BTW: Nice looking dog. Is he/she yours or just a pic you found?
MADem
(135,425 posts)LOL @ Cork Clocks!!
For Persians it's called Teheran Time!!
In Italy, if you show up early (i.e. ON TIME) they think you're there to tell them someone died!
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Bernie fans on Twitter are having quite a bit of umbrage, as usual.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)Noted. Please carry on Hillary supporters....
MADem
(135,425 posts)ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)Please continue.
appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)Stir that pot! Stir that pot!! RAH! RAH! RAH!
appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)it only makes what is honestly rotten much worse. People 'owned' it...in advance.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Cock a doodle doo....any excuse for poutrage will dooooooo!!!!
appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)when I see it, and your "touching concern" (cough) Horse shit!! (cough) takes the cake.
Who KNEW you were so concerned about clever little inside jokes, made by someone who comes from an environment where he's QUALIFIED to make them?
Is that clear enough for ya?
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)What an interesting comment, continue...
MADem
(135,425 posts)what you've learned?
if you MARRY a POC, you're immunized? You can say whatever you want without repercussion?
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)Absolutely unbelievable. I didn't realize there was a loophole for racism if you marry someone who is non white. I guess someone should tell Ted Danson.
Hestia
(3,818 posts)I had no idea until it was pointed out, on the news of course, what it supposedly meant*. All this faux and pout-rages has got to stop. People can't constantly parse and nitpick each and every word that comes out someone's mouth and call these unknown things as white privilege or racist or some such nonsense. This is worse that denying Free Speech, it's chilling and Orwellian. Soon, no one is going to talk to anyone, which defeats the whole purpose.
Plus, all this talk about each other is turning our eyes away from the people who are doing the most damage. While we sit and argue, funding are being absconded from our Treasury and off-shored by a very privileged few.
*In my circles (pun intended), it's called Pagan Standard Time. It seems every group uses some form of it.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)outrage, the answer may change.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I don't think most of them understand the nature of BDB's family, either...!
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)There's so much they do not understand....
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)first heard that phrase.
MADem
(135,425 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)A very very small minority (no pun intended) of people who saw that short "skit" were offended, least of them were those who the self-righteously indignant claim should be offended.
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)Not sure what's more offensive, the joke or watching Team Hillary trying to polish a turd, after the fact.
basselope
(2,565 posts)I think the poor performance was far worse than the joke.
Does anyone REALLY believe that EITHER Clinton or BdB are racist? I hope not, because neither of them are.
Let this type of stuff go and let's PLEASE stick to the real issues.
She voted for a war that got hundreds of thousands of people killed.
She supports free trade agreements that put millions of people out of work.
She's been paid millions of dollars to speak to Wall Street banks and REFUSES to tell us what she said.
She is not absolutely 100% pro choice.
She takes money from and has routinely served the interests of the 1%.
Let's stick to this and not some idiotic joke.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)Did she think it was funny?
Did she think the audience would laugh?
Did she think it would help her popularity?
Even the part where she faux-chastizes BdB for being late to endorse her is like....
"You OWE me your endorsement. KISS THE RING!"
If my friend shows up with a birthday present a month late, I say "Thanks!" and not "Where the hell have you been with this?"
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)The criticisms from black publications are rolling in. Not good for Hillary and Bill.
draa
(975 posts)I have repeatedly read up thread where this was no big deal. None at all. Why in the world should black people be offended when there was a black man on stage (as if that matters). You know, racist jokes are a-ok as long as you have black friends.
No matter how Clinton slices this joke it was racist and no amount of spinning will change that.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)Black people make this joke.
draa
(975 posts)Reter
(2,188 posts)The add should say "Hillary thinks it funny to joke about Colored People." Any black person that votes for her is mind boggling.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)go talk to a black person.
Duckfan
(1,268 posts)Are you paying attention to this?
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)mhatrw
(10,786 posts)Get it! Colored people are really slow, just as racially sensitive and humorously self-depreciating cautious politicians are! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!
SansACause
(520 posts)I'm white and grew up in Mississippi and I thought I had heard every slur and derogatory phrase about black people that had ever been created. This is a new one for me. Is that a NY regional thing?
appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)JesterCS
(1,827 posts)Have heard variations. BlackTime, Ni**ertime, etc . All portraying en entire race of laziness, but it's ok for Queen Hillarian, she's above the law!
treestar
(82,383 posts)I've heard it put as "Thai time" or the like, "Kenyan time" to reflect third world countries more expanded or casual view of time. The people saying it were of the culture and referring to it fondly.
Whereas Americans are seen as too picky about it.
Plus deBlasio could have got it from his family and thought it was funny to make it into Cautious Politician.
pothos
(154 posts)if the shoe was on the other foot and Sanders did this, it would be front page news on the NY Times and people would be calling for him to drop out.
salinsky
(1,065 posts)Overwhelmingly white supporters of the tone-deaf candidate telling us what is racist never gets old!
The concept of CP time is an AA construct.
It's not derogatory in any sense.
Thanks for lulz.
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itcfish
(1,828 posts)Garbage! de Blasio is married to an African American lady and his children are black. So this is just an attempt to hurt Hillary