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cal04

(41,505 posts)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:23 PM Apr 2016

Pelosi Calls for Declassification of Redacted Portions of 9/11 Joint Inquiry Report

Source: NancyPelosi

San Francisco – Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi released this statement today calling for the declassification of the redacted 28 pages from the Joint Inquiry into Intelligence Community Activities Before and After the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001. Pelosi is the longest serving Member of the House Intelligence Committee.

“As the former Ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee and top the House Democrat on the Joint Congressional investigation looking into the 9/11 attacks, I agree with former Senator Bob Graham that these documents should be declassified and made public, and that the Bush Administration’s refusal to do so was a mistake. I have always advocated for providing as much transparency as possible to the American people consistent with protecting our national security.”

Read more: http://www.democraticleader.gov/newsroom/pelosi-calls-for-declassification-of-redacted-portions-of-911-joint-inquiry-report/

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Pelosi Calls for Declassification of Redacted Portions of 9/11 Joint Inquiry Report (Original Post) cal04 Apr 2016 OP
wow. first Bob Graham, now Pelosi? Let that sun light in. It's high time. nt 99th_Monkey Apr 2016 #1
I say Obama should pardon all the bastards except Cheney. We need a symbolic sacrifice. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #7
The GITMO Method MsInformed Apr 2016 #14
& Return the Guantanamo Lease to Cuba. Ghost Dog Apr 2016 #39
So the Castros would have a naval base to sell to China or Russia? former9thward Apr 2016 #71
Obama's a day late & a dollar short on prosecutions. 99th_Monkey Apr 2016 #15
Caesar never got a trial. Why give one to Cheney? Major Hogwash Apr 2016 #21
Well, he is a terrorist after all. Shock and awe and all that. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #45
Except Obama has made it clear at the beginning of his 1st term that he would do no such thing! Dustlawyer Apr 2016 #49
I've been looking forward... freebrew Apr 2016 #54
Neither Cheney nor George Bush can travel much outside the U.S. due to Iraq. LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #51
Fantasy. former9thward Apr 2016 #72
I don't think any of them need pardons. If we're really a democracy, the mightiest must be subject yurbud Apr 2016 #68
For clarification, are you saying that you don't think any of them rhett o rick Apr 2016 #69
She was a great Speaker, but I was disappointed WhiteTara Apr 2016 #2
she is bluffing with a head fake reddread Apr 2016 #3
Yeah she knows it won't be approved and that's why she is acting like she's in favor of it. 2pooped2pop Apr 2016 #23
is it because we are stupid? reddread Apr 2016 #25
As a whole we are pretty dumb. 2pooped2pop Apr 2016 #26
I prefer complicit reddread Apr 2016 #27
Insofar as we don't have any recourse, chapdrum Apr 2016 #57
there is always recourse, that is why we bear culpability reddread Apr 2016 #73
Agreed. It was illegal then, it's illegal now, and the war criminals should be punished MurrayDelph Apr 2016 #12
Hmmm. Denny Hastert was Speaker back then.... sofa king Apr 2016 #4
LOL and just when Obama was making his list of people to pardon. I think he has a hell rhett o rick Apr 2016 #5
k and r AxionExcel Apr 2016 #6
But, but thinking that my GOVERNMENT might be involved is too hard on my psyche. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #8
LOL! If you think... SkyDaddy7 Apr 2016 #28
Don't judge the Bush admin by Bush and Cheney, they are a couple of clowns. The "Bush" admin rhett o rick Apr 2016 #30
^^^^°°°°°°^°^^^^^^^^^^°^°°°° Ghost Dog Apr 2016 #40
Absolutely agree. I believe it was a government false flag operation. (they've done it before) Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #46
the "only" thing Fred Drum Apr 2016 #36
WOO-WOO!!! SkyDaddy7 Apr 2016 #38
not a deep thinker Fred Drum Apr 2016 #41
Sorry, we should put a warning on our posts "This post may challenge your comfortable rhett o rick Apr 2016 #55
You seem to have a great deal of faith in your position LanternWaste Apr 2016 #62
There are two things about 9/11 I know for sure... SkyDaddy7 Apr 2016 #70
The alerter haz a sad. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #58
Alerter FAIL! Hahahahaaaaa! nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2016 #63
Only the parts they want us to see Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #9
I guess they think the Saudis Califonz Apr 2016 #10
Fuck the royal Saudis lastone Apr 2016 #13
If Raygun wouldn't have ripped off the solar panels from the White House Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #47
Then? MsInformed Apr 2016 #16
everyone should have demanded this before we attacked or destabilized any country after 9/11 yurbud Apr 2016 #11
A lot of us did 2naSalit Apr 2016 #17
god what a weird time that was mdbl Apr 2016 #32
I wasn't the least bit surprised 2naSalit Apr 2016 #33
Good work. n/t Ghost Dog Apr 2016 #42
Their reason and logic worked perfectly. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #48
Yes we did merrifield Apr 2016 #50
it is a sign of how in the tank with GOP goals many Dems are that this wasn't done as soon as they yurbud Apr 2016 #67
Prince Bandar Bush GoldenMean Apr 2016 #18
Since you are new here I must warn you that that kind of conspiracy talk here rhett o rick Apr 2016 #31
I'm familiar with the patent for Tesla's building-smashing machine truthisfreedom Apr 2016 #34
Edison, Not Tesla, Was The Shuckster billhicks76 Apr 2016 #35
It's a form of derision that goes back to 9/12. Haven't seen a thread squat like it in a while leveymg Apr 2016 #60
Textbook stuff right there, leveymg. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2016 #65
And here comes the disinformation and kooky stuff in an attempt to discredit and... ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2016 #64
"the Bush Administration’s refusal to do so was a mistake..." chapdrum Apr 2016 #19
I'm getting a "ME TOO!! I WANTED THIS ALL ALONG" vibe from Pelosi dorkzilla Apr 2016 #20
The Dems waited for someone to be the first. chapdrum Apr 2016 #22
AFT... I hate liars Apr 2016 #24
Someday the truth will come out, and that will be a bad day for the Bush crime family. olddad56 Apr 2016 #29
sadly I expect they'll all be long dead by the time the complete truth comes out... wildbilln864 Apr 2016 #37
let's now all commence with the collective holding of the breath. nt Javaman Apr 2016 #43
Every once in awhile she says something that doesn't cause me to wince. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #44
About time Pelosi. zentrum Apr 2016 #52
I laugh every time I hear that Bush censored the 28 pages for "national security" reasons KansDem Apr 2016 #53
Just one of the over 60 warnings the Bush-Republican cabal ignored- leading directly to 9/11 AxionExcel Apr 2016 #61
What in the fuck is going on here? Enthusiast Apr 2016 #56
ya think Nancy? LiberalLovinLug Apr 2016 #59
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rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
7. I say Obama should pardon all the bastards except Cheney. We need a symbolic sacrifice.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:39 PM
Apr 2016

Try Cheney and throw him in Gitmo. That would make a lot of people feel better about the USofA all around the world.

And if you don't think that's fair, my response is, that's the point.

MsInformed

(48 posts)
14. The GITMO Method
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:57 PM
Apr 2016

is to throw people into detention and NEVER have a trial.

Other than that detail: I agree. Throw Cheney & Addington in Gitmo.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
15. Obama's a day late & a dollar short on prosecutions.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:58 PM
Apr 2016

And to me this is more about US/Saudi Arabia relations than our own war criminals.
who've been walking free for eight years.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
21. Caesar never got a trial. Why give one to Cheney?
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 07:01 PM
Apr 2016

And if that Darth Vader wannabe were ever to do time in the pokey, the Rightwing Warmongering Mainstream Media would make a martyr out of him lickety-split.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
49. Except Obama has made it clear at the beginning of his 1st term that he would do no such thing!
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:34 AM
Apr 2016

"Look forward, not back!"

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
54. I've been looking forward...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:40 AM
Apr 2016

to * & Darth being frog-marched to Leavenworth...



I know, but I can dream, eh?

LuvLoogie

(7,008 posts)
51. Neither Cheney nor George Bush can travel much outside the U.S. due to Iraq.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:05 AM
Apr 2016

In this country, a good 30 to 40 percent would oppose prosecution. There would first have to be a criminal investigation, then a decision as to which charges should be brought before a grand jury. I don't expect that Cheney would ever come in for questioning, nor would any agents be assembled for his arrest.

His last years will be similar to a Pinochet as the gravity of his actions are slowly revealed. Obama would not pursue this because he had a legislative agenda and understood that there was no consensus to pursue this. We won't know the entirety of what happened leading up to and after 911 until all the principals are dead. (It's ironic that I first spelled that as "principles.&quot

Perhaps there is a push now to reveal this document, because it is soon to be leaked. Perhaps there are a lot of government secrets soon to be revealed and people want to get out front of them. Graham comes at this from principle I believe, Nancy more as a political leader. The President chose to let things percolate, and it appears that they are.

former9thward

(32,016 posts)
72. Fantasy.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 07:06 PM
Apr 2016

Bush can go where ever he wants. There are no arrest warrants against him despite the urban legend that there are.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
68. I don't think any of them need pardons. If we're really a democracy, the mightiest must be subject
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 04:08 PM
Apr 2016

to the rule of law.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
69. For clarification, are you saying that you don't think any of them
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 04:35 PM
Apr 2016

deserve pardons? If so, I completely agree. I would especially go after the bastards that hid behind, "I was just following orders." That didn't cut it for the Germans and shouldn't for these American bastards that did the actual torturing. People need to know to just say no if your superior tells you to torture.

And another thing. I am particularly pissed about Obama trying to play down the seriousness of our people torturing people. He made it sound like nothing worse than a unruly frat party.

WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
2. She was a great Speaker, but I was disappointed
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:29 PM
Apr 2016

that she took "impeachment off the table." It could have healed our country, but the war still festers like a wound.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
23. Yeah she knows it won't be approved and that's why she is acting like she's in favor of it.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 07:08 PM
Apr 2016

That's how they do it.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
73. there is always recourse, that is why we bear culpability
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:08 PM
Apr 2016

although the response and results were removed from our hands,
by an administration that stole its office while we watched dumbfounded
holding the door.
we can only wonder what could possibly have stopped the military
industrial complex from carrying out plans in place many years before

im sure the explanation history decides upon will be interesting.

for now, we live in a culture that has been erased by a media that refuses to mediate.
history is banished to another dimension along with truth and honor.
I would not advise believing a single word from Nancy Pelosi that doesnt exonerate or
protect the guiltiest parties in recent history.

MurrayDelph

(5,299 posts)
12. Agreed. It was illegal then, it's illegal now, and the war criminals should be punished
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:41 PM
Apr 2016

All that has come from President Obama's promise not to torture is that the U.S. promises not to torture "for now."

If one of those microphallus-compensators in the Republican Party were to get in power again, we would be lucky if they only tortured foreign nationals.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
4. Hmmm. Denny Hastert was Speaker back then....
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:33 PM
Apr 2016

... and it looks like Turkey had their claws in him by then...

... and the report lets Saudi Arabia completely off the hook...

Hmmm.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
5. LOL and just when Obama was making his list of people to pardon. I think he has a hell
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:35 PM
Apr 2016

of a long list.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
8. But, but thinking that my GOVERNMENT might be involved is too hard on my psyche.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:43 PM
Apr 2016

I know, let's just say it was a few folks that blew up some buildings and we hung Hussein and all is right.

It isn't good liberals that deny conspiracy theories off hand. Always be skeptical, and when the NSA/CIA are involved, be more skeptical.

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
28. LOL! If you think...
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 07:28 PM
Apr 2016

The woefully INCOMPETENT Bush Administration pulled off 9/11 then you really don't know much at all about Bush, the people who made up his JOKE of an administration or 9/11!!!

HINT: The ONLY thing being hidden, if anything, is how much of the Saudi Government/Family was involved!

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
30. Don't judge the Bush admin by Bush and Cheney, they are a couple of clowns. The "Bush" admin
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:16 PM
Apr 2016

managed to do in 8 years what the conservatives only dreamed of for years. They essentially killed our democracy.

But all I am saying is don't tell me that 12 terrorists pulled this all off by themselves. They had some big time help. And there are a lot of unanswered questions. I do not trust my government to tell me the truth.

Fred Drum

(293 posts)
36. the "only" thing
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:42 AM
Apr 2016

wow, not a deep thinking, are you

911 undeniably happened

who did it should be they ONLY question

HINT: we dont know ... yet

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
55. Sorry, we should put a warning on our posts "This post may challenge your comfortable
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:45 AM
Apr 2016

bubble of denial. Don't look, you might be upset." I think you Woo Woo comment is typical. Did you have your fingers in your ears, and eyes closed when you wrote that. rhetorical.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
62. You seem to have a great deal of faith in your position
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:46 PM
Apr 2016

"The ONLY thing being hidden, if anything..."

You seem to have a great deal of faith in your position. Odd, that.

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
70. There are two things about 9/11 I know for sure...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:31 PM
Apr 2016

The most important is the Bush administration & almost everyone in it was far too incompetent to pull off the world's biggest false flag event, leave no evidence AT ALL behind, keep the hundreds more like thousands needed QUIET that you & others here fantasize happened!

...And the other goes beyond 9/11...Our government cannot keep secrets for long periods of time! NEVER HAS & NEVER WILL!

You 9/11 Truthers are no better than GUN NUTS who think Sandy Hook was faked by the Obama Adiministration or those who think the USA faked the Moon landing...You want so bad for there to be a conspiracy behind everything! It is SAD really!

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
58. The alerter haz a sad.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:05 PM
Apr 2016

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

9/11 conspiracy wacko hide

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:00 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

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Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Why hide the wackos?
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Fuck this Infowars bullshit.

 

lastone

(588 posts)
13. Fuck the royal Saudis
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:53 PM
Apr 2016

Fuck their money
Fuck their oil

We should have followed Carter and his policy of energy independence.

Fuck Regan as well.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
47. If Raygun wouldn't have ripped off the solar panels from the White House
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:20 AM
Apr 2016

and backed Jimmy Carters initiatives on clean energy - can you imagine how much better off we and the planet would be right now.

Fucking traitor.

2naSalit

(86,636 posts)
17. A lot of us did
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 06:06 PM
Apr 2016

and we were threatened, cajoled, demonized and swiped aside by the uberpatriots in the stolen presidency.

If you're not with us, you're aiding and abetting the enemy... and a thousand other slogans that were swallowed whole while people were in shock... all the more reason to ramrod the shitty policies that we now suffer from... Shock Doctrine comes to America.

Those of us who point to facts that dispute the official story line are at risk of being marginalized and/or disappeared.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
32. god what a weird time that was
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:30 PM
Apr 2016

all reasoning and logic was tossed in the toilet and flushed by those warmongers in the Bush administration. it really woke me up as to how far the American public could be manipulated.

2naSalit

(86,636 posts)
33. I wasn't the least bit surprised
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:53 PM
Apr 2016

and had my fair share of RWNJs (I was in Idaho at the time) who actually came up to me and told me to go back to the f'ing desert I came from.

I have olive complexion (very light) and was born to Americans in America but these wannabe c'boy types... mostly mormons, were hounding me like I was to blame and had done the deed myself. I would often tell them in my thickest beantown accent that they were cordially invited to f themselves.

I had predicted, on the day the SCOTUS decided our election for us, that we would be at war in the ME within 12 months and we would be at war there for a long time and other bad social things were going to happen. I said it in the company of the entire political science department, and they were wary of my prediction until it happened. I had only graduated 30 days prior... I have yet to recover professionally and financially. I will never forgive nor forget W and his handlers for that.

merrifield

(73 posts)
50. Yes we did
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:47 AM
Apr 2016

Marched in two anti-war rallies here and wrote numerous letters to the editor to my local paper. Those who are still believing the official story, please follow this link:

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/04/8-reasons-911-not-inside-job.html

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
67. it is a sign of how in the tank with GOP goals many Dems are that this wasn't done as soon as they
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 04:07 PM
Apr 2016

retook the house and senate.

 

GoldenMean

(49 posts)
18. Prince Bandar Bush
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 06:20 PM
Apr 2016

bankrolled the attack.
Our Shadow Government allowed it to happen.
The towers were pulverized into powder by weapons based upon Tesla's design.
Tesla boasted he could crumble the Empire State Building and split the Earth in two.
HAARP is real.
http://www.haarp.net

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
31. Since you are new here I must warn you that that kind of conspiracy talk here
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:20 PM
Apr 2016

is apt to get you ridicule and derision. There are a outspoken group here that are terrified to look the truth in the eye.

truthisfreedom

(23,148 posts)
34. I'm familiar with the patent for Tesla's building-smashing machine
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:30 AM
Apr 2016

It took days for it to work in his tests, and the top of the building was rocking back and forth 4 feet or more when he shut it down. People would have been seasick for hours or days before the buildings fell and all of the office furniture would have been rolling back and forth like crazy. So it definitely wasn't THAT machine. His claims of being able to split the Earth in two were part of his showmanship... he was part huckster. Part of his charm.

HAARP was real, that's for sure, but the things claimed about HAARP certainly haven't included knocking down buildings.

I might agree with your first two statements, but the last three just don't match up with demonstrable truth. BTW Tesla's building smashing machine was basically a heavy hammer perfectly timed to knock a building at just the right rate that it would begin to rock after some time, kinda like pushing a kid on a swing, where you have to get the timing just right and they go faster and faster. It swings the building apart but it takes so long that everyone inside really notices it swinging around before it actually falls. Models of that machine have been tested.

Natural factors can cause any structure to suffer from resonance as produced by Tesla's machine. This is why soldiers are required to break step when crossing bridges. Here's an example of how even wind and the normal passage of traffic can cause natural resonance of a structure to cause it to collapse, but look how long it took... in this case, it was completely wild for an hour before it fell.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
64. And here comes the disinformation and kooky stuff in an attempt to discredit and...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
Apr 2016

...misdirect and disrupt the topic by making a farce of it.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
20. I'm getting a "ME TOO!! I WANTED THIS ALL ALONG" vibe from Pelosi
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 07:00 PM
Apr 2016

As long as Graham is going to spill the beans she wants to look like she has a spine.

 

wildbilln864

(13,382 posts)
37. sadly I expect they'll all be long dead by the time the complete truth comes out...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 05:21 AM
Apr 2016

if it ever does at all.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
44. Every once in awhile she says something that doesn't cause me to wince.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:12 AM
Apr 2016

I actually can agree on this one.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
52. About time Pelosi.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:11 AM
Apr 2016

Many have been asking her to do this for years.

Boxer—where are you? Now that she's retiring she's got nothing to risk.

Probably will never see Neocon Feinstein ask for this.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
53. I laugh every time I hear that Bush censored the 28 pages for "national security" reasons
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:15 AM
Apr 2016


What national security? There wasn't any! Bush sat on his butt and did nothing while his pals and business partners killed 3,000 Americans.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
56. What in the fuck is going on here?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:04 AM
Apr 2016

Why the change in position? Will impeachment be back on the table?

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
59. ya think Nancy?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:23 PM
Apr 2016

So you just thought of this now? You "evolved" on your position?

Right in the final 6 months before a big national election? This story will get lost quickly and she knows it. Something she can claim she was for after she retires and writes her auto biography.

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