Hillary Clinton Tells Greenpeace Activist She's ‘Sick of the Sanders Campaign Lying About Me’
Source: ABC News
Hillary Clinton was visibly angry at a campaign event on Thursday when questioned by an environmental activist about donations to her campaign from the fossil fuel industry.
While shaking hands with voters during an event at the State University of New York at Purchase, Greenpeace USA activist Eva Resnick-Day asked the Democratic presidential candidate if she would reject fossil fuel money.
The question clearly aggravated Clinton, who immediately snapped back. I am so sick -- I am so sick of the Sanders campaign lying about me. I am sick of it, she said.
Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-tells-greenpeace-activist-shes-sick-sanders/story?id=38068903
This news story was posted 20 minutes ago by ABC News, a mainstream news source.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)#NotWithHer
newfie11
(8,159 posts)tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)Last edited Fri Apr 1, 2016, 04:22 AM - Edit history (2)
there's no other excuse, otherwise she'd be a happy warrior right now
and there's a VINE too
https://vine.co/v/ijKDUJTpe5Q
I guess she can only attack young girls, and not debate others her own size...
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)'...the activist's sentiment is mostly correct. In July 2015, Clinton disclosed a list of lobbyists who were bundling contributions for her campaign. There were a significant number who have been tied to the fossil fuel industry, including Scott Parven and Brian Pomper, lobbyists at Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld, who have been registered lobbyists for Chevron for nearly ten years.
Clinton has been insistent on her desire to regulate fracking practices, but earlier this month held a fundraiser with investors of the controversial practice. She did not sign a pledge that her Democratic opponents at the timeSanders and Martin O'Malleydid while vowing not to accept donations from fossil fuel companies.'
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Baobab
(4,667 posts)which are extremely important, for example, related to health care lock ins on policy. Same with education and other privatized services. the fact that that was/is happening and the reasons given for that were misrepresentations.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)DemocracyDirect
(708 posts)My bad.
Do you mean in some other country?
PeoViejo
(2,178 posts)There is so much baggage to sort through, it would drive a Customs Agent Nuts.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)FighttheFuture
(1,313 posts)Typical of a shill.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Wibly
(613 posts)Come on, I've been reading your posts. It's nothing but cherry picking.
That aside, please explain how a politician can stand up to Fracker when that politician receives money from Frackers.
gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)... I would be a bit more cautious about entering any discussions about credibility. Seriously.
FighttheFuture
(1,313 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)He has went on about Hillary's private speeches:while
refusing to disclose his taxes: Hillary's posted her taxes
In an effort for American's to see she is an honest tax
payers. Sanders is with Trump on his : They both
cannot trusted
FighttheFuture
(1,313 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Crabby Abbey
(66 posts)Call me an ideologue! Rather be that than a flat out liar!
PeoViejo
(2,178 posts)Order a copy of the Constitution and Bill of Rights in Braille.
Wibly
(613 posts)Sorry, but if you're allowed to attack people, we should be allowed to do the same right back.
I've yet to read any post from you that proves your assertions. Its all pro Hill no matter what, evidence and fact be damned.
Therefore, I must conclude, when it comes to "blind ideologues" you speak from up close and intensely personal experience.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)bjobotts
(9,141 posts)tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)Angrydemex
(43 posts)seekthetruth
(504 posts)No, we just don't to see the Earth ruined.....more than it already has been!
Wibly
(613 posts)But you're really making her look bad by trolling in this fashion.
But by all means, keep it up. If it helps Sanders, which it does, I'm all for it.
Hun Joro
(666 posts)I've yet to see them refute a negative post about their chosen one with facts, just calling Sanders supporters poopyheads.
DrBulldog
(841 posts)Thanks for the info, Hillary!
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Wi though... that one seems to be in doubt.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)lots of Bernie signs everywhere though
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)one should not assume
Duval
(4,280 posts)I've seen this on the news at least 4 times today. That's ok, because people can see how "well" she responds to any criticism.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)seekthetruth
(504 posts)She's supporting a dangerous environmental practice, and you defend her?
frylock
(34,825 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Duval
(4,280 posts)Yallow
(1,926 posts)Not Bernie.
My bad....
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Javaman
(62,532 posts)not a deft hand with criticism.
me thinks she protests to much.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Javaman
(62,532 posts)but poorly sourced.
the clinton foundation has taken huge amounts of money from the oil corporations, and before you freak out and say, "that has nothing to do with her campaign!", I have a bridge to sell you. if you honestly believe that there is zero connection between her contacts in the foundation and her campaign, you are being completely ingenious.
she is very thick with the fossil fuel industry. and it's a very poor argument to deny such.
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/12/clinton-and-fossil-fuel-money/
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)":
Javaman
(62,532 posts)look at my link in this subthread showing how hillary, bill and the clinton foundation are in thick with the oil industry.
Hun Joro
(666 posts)Javaman
(62,532 posts)tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)no wonder your support is blind - your eyes are closed
watch the video again with neutral eyes and maybe you'll see what is going on
(although I doubt you'd even bother)
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Greenpeace Activist
http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/im-the-greenpeace-activist-who-asked-hillary-clinton-to-pledge-to-reject-fossil-fuel-contributions-at-the-purchase-ny-campaign-rally/
Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Super PAC supporting her have received more than $4.5 million from the fossil fuel industry.
[font size=4]BULLY!!![/font]
Poor, poor Hillary. All these "bullies" attacking her.
Almost makes me want to shed a tear for her and her supporters.
.
.
.
.
Naw. I take that back. I have no tears for these people,
only for the millions they have hurt.
juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)Baobab
(4,667 posts)"Queen bee syndrome was first defined by G.L. Staines, T.E. Jayaratne, and C. Tavris in 1973.[1] It describes a woman in a position of authority who views or treats subordinates more critically if they are female. This phenomenon has been documented by several studies.[2][3] In another study, scientists from the University of Toronto speculated that the queen bee syndrome may be the reason that women find it more stressful to work for women managers; no difference was found in stress levels for male workers.[4] An alternate, though closely related, definition describes a queen bee as one who has succeeded in her career, but refuses to help other women do the same.[5]
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Bohunk68
(1,364 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)And the Country does not.
All in it together
(275 posts)And Hillary yelled and pointed a finger at her and blamed Bernie. Yes Bernie has brought up the fact that she takes these donations.
I would like an honest answer to the question, will she stop taking that money if she is for the environment?
Hillary might as well said, "off with her head!"
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Did not want to listen to any answers:she was there to attack Hillary
Hillary did not run away like Sanders did with BLM;: Go Hillary
seekthetruth
(504 posts)Don't you mean, "Go further ruin for our environment"?
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)N
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)Hmmm...
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)Somehow it still manages "Democrats".
Hmmm...
bunnies
(15,859 posts)Obvious troll is obvious.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)greymouse
(872 posts)Shame on us. What is this, sixth grade?
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)the Greenpeace women a liar: She was just a Sanders attacker
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)One of the people in India using the lewebley3 login really keeps screwing up all American dialects of the English language. And this post is one of the -- no American would write such a sentence -- moments.
I sort of hate myself for doing this. Because I am a Sanders supporter. But I am somewhat obsessive sometimes when I see something being done WRONG. And this has been happening a very long time now. I have written this post half a dozen times, then stopped myself from hitting "Post my reply". This time ... I could not stop myself.
bjobotts
(9,141 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Well you cannot bully even Hillary when you send thugs to ambush her in a
Vote2016
(1,198 posts)Jackilope
(819 posts)... we know her embrace of fracking. It isn't a lie or an artful smear if it is true. Years of her cozy media relationship leave her clueless when real people challenge her.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)bullies. and sore losers just out for themselves
Jackilope
(819 posts)Interesting projection on concept of selfish.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)call her, Her Highness Queen Hillary I.
Hekate
(90,773 posts)She's running to be President of the US, and if she wins be prepared for Madam President.
JURY: poster to whom I replied said:
That is until we are ordered to
call her, Her Highness Queen Hillary I.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)I have it from an inside source that she actually wants to eliminate the Constitution, and proclaim herself Queen.
April Fools!
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)I
bjobotts
(9,141 posts)Pauldg47
(640 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)rtracey
(2,062 posts)LeFleur1
(1,197 posts)Bernie Sanders is visibly upset and visibly so very angry at the cards he's been dealt in life. He visibly rallies his followers to spout their hate and viterol at every stop and at every chance. He is visibly unable to think of any new words for any speech and visibly has the old speech down pat. The crowd could chant it with him if he called for them to do so and promised them a free candy bar if they got all the words correct. They wouldn't have to pay for the candy. Someone else would.
Opinions are opinions. Facts are facts. If Hillary is so terrible how come so many of Bernie's/Trumps/Cruz's supporters have to make stuff up to satisfy their hatred?
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)No Senator of the Den party is supporting he is not al eader
Ppp
trueblue2007
(17,237 posts)Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)industry, but like Bernie, although Bernie gets much less, she has received donations from those who work in that industry.
So the facts are a bit different.
The problem in her case is she is accepting money from bundlers who deal with those folks, and it looks bad.
Hekate
(90,773 posts)...where it comes from.
NNadir
(33,541 posts)...Sanders is it.
He lives in the only State in the Union that did not release carbon dioxide to generate electricity.
With Sanders support, they shut their nuclear plant, which generated more than 70% of their electricity. They now import electricity from the same damn states that rely on fracked gas to generate theirs.
So all of the faux outrage from the Sanders squad is a little disingenuous. I don't think that they even know what the truth is, and thus are not consciously lying so much as muttering ignorantly on subjects they know nothing about.
Now Sanders would like to destroy the intellectual and physical infrastructure of the rest of the US nuclear plants. Apparently he is entirely unaware that nuclear energy has saved 1.8 million human lives that would have been lost to air pollution, and has prevented the dumping of more than 60 billion tons of carbon dioxide.
This data doesn't come from the Clinton campaign, but rather can be found in a scientific paper in one of the world's premier Environmental journals, by one of the world's leading climate scientists, Jim Hansen.
None of this is a lie, but from what I hear here, it would seem that the people who support Senator Sanders are unequipped to adjudge what is and what is not true, since they are uninterested in finding things out.
The fact is, if Sanders is elected, it will mean that this country's fastest growing energy source, dangerous natural gas, will grow even faster, and every single child born after 2016, and many born before it as well, will pay for the willful ignorance of Americans in elected such a poorly educated man President.
If that tiresome fool, Sanders, is elected President of the United States, it will be an unprecedented disaster for the environment, given that he will have assumed the highest office of the country in the World with the highest per capita energy consumption.
The people who will win, will be the gas companies.
So I would suggest that the Sanderites should quit their bitching. Their candidate's rhetoric must have the fossil fuel industries salivating, whether they give that fool money or not.
Hoppy
(3,595 posts)By the way, what are the lies?
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)ripcord
(5,497 posts)HillareeeHillaraah
(685 posts)About dang time -
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)It'll be pretty embarrassing if she cannot.
840high
(17,196 posts)finger in someone's face.
Hekate
(90,773 posts)DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)dchill
(38,517 posts)Talk about "Tone."
Sheesh!
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)me b zola
(19,053 posts)"A Greenpeace report found that Clinton has received over $1 million from lobbyists and bunddlers connected to the fossil fuel industry and that her Super PAC has received over $3 million from donors in the industry. "
Woohoo, taking off the gloves to defend a lie!
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)Last edited Fri Apr 1, 2016, 03:36 PM - Edit history (1)
me b zola
(19,053 posts)Why does she keep choosing the wrong target?
Iraq. That was one spectacularly wrong target. There have been others. Now this.
We laugh about the gang that couldn't shoot straight, but there's no comparable saying for someone who can't even get the target right.
Cher
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Response to me b zola (Reply #55)
Marie Marie This message was self-deleted by its author.
Response to HillareeeHillaraah (Reply #4)
imari362 This message was self-deleted by its author.
Hekate
(90,773 posts)...like a good wifey.
smiley
(1,432 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Because Sanders is not a leader. :his supporters walk over him !
ThoughtCriminal
(14,047 posts)You're not even trying here.
Refute the claim that the fossil fuel industry is contributing to her campaign, defend the donations or just admit that you have no rebuttal.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)I can't recall this poster ever providing any evidence to any claim. I don't use 'ignore' but if I did, this poster would be my first ignored user.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)You are a blind idealogoie: go do some homework
seekthetruth
(504 posts)...a...with lots of cash from corporations and fat rich cats. No thanks.....and you haven't a clue.
frylock
(34,825 posts)dogman
(6,073 posts)Whats that sound?
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)Thanks!
dogman
(6,073 posts)We've waited a long time for someone like Bernie.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)It's amazing how poeple can still support her!
dogman
(6,073 posts)She does appear sick, that's for sure.
phazed0
(745 posts)Oh please, Hill, why don't you let us in on Bernie's lies about you... and I want to see it on Youtube.
Does she really think that people are that stupid? Oh, nevermind.
Yallow
(1,926 posts)Where have you been.....
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)I SAY TO Hillary supporters now, IN TIME some of you WILL see at sometime in the future. MAY it not be too late.
I DO NOT TRUST voting anymore AND I DO believe NOW that so many Primaries have been "rigged" in her favor!
I WILL add I've had thoughts of just letting her get elected BECAUSE I honestly, truly and with all my heart KNOW the country will FINALLY see the REAL HILLARY and THIS Democratic Party for what it's become!
THIS is just a passing thought because I simply can't in good conscience support her and WILL forever think of him as POTUS even if he doesn't get elected!
BERNIE IS THE REAL DEAL!
***** *****
Wilms
(26,795 posts)dchill
(38,517 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts).....and tired of Bernie telling you all about my record and donor base.
thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)According to Hillary, Bernie was against bailing out the auto industry, he's in favor of vigilantes, he's going to take away your medicare, he's cozy with the koch brothers, he's sexist... and then there was the one about the "foreword" he wrote...
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)At least Bernie doesn't LITERALLY poke it in the eyes of voters...
Zira
(1,054 posts)Anyone else will google: Hillary Clinton Fossil Fuels Super Pac and will instantly find out the truth. She had to consider every single news agency was going to google so she' be caught in an all out lie.
Not that she hasn't all out lied since November, but still, this is pretty outrageous because now she accuses Bernie of lying AS she lies.
I think this is only backfiring for her. All of the Republicans will check. With the Bernie supporters, that's 3/4th of the voting population will instantly seek and find a blatant lie.
Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)is the liar eventually starts to believe their own bullshit lies.
Fact checking be damned, they will keep on lying. It's what they do.
draa
(975 posts)Her campaign started February with a lie about Sanders healthcare plans and then concluded with people questioning his civil rights works and swiftboating him over a picture. And now they complain about lies. She can get bent.
She'd better be worried about how she's going to get people to vote for more corruption and incompetence. Oh, and no one has forgotten the stream of outright lies and smears that her camp has used against Sanders. That will cost her my vote and many others I'd imagine.
Zira
(1,054 posts)And, that was a Green Peace Activist confronting her.
Number of oil, gas and coal industry lobbyists that have made direct contributions to Hillary Clintons 2016 presidential campaign: 57
57 registered oil, coal and gas lobbyists have personally given $126,200 to the Hillary campaign
Of those 57, 11 are bundlers.
11 lobbyists have bundled $1,140,930 in contributions to the Hillary campaign
43 lobbyists have contributed the maximum allowed ($2700).
This includes:
Lobbyists who have reported lobbying for the oil and gas industry both in-house company lobbyists and hired lobbyists from K-Street firms."
http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/campaign-updates/hillary-clintons-connection-oil-gas-industry/
Mother Jones has cited her too:
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/07/hillary-clinton-bundlers-fossil-fuel-lobbyists
A google shows she has lots of sites citing her for it.
SunSeeker
(51,657 posts)The donations are from individuals, who happen to work as lobbyists. They work at lobbying firms who represent all manner of industry, not just oil companies. That is not evidence that they were acting on behalf of any particular industry when they give money as individuals.
The Sanders campaign disingenuously implies these individuals were acting on behalf of oil companies when they gave their individual donations:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-tells-greenpeace-activist-shes-sick-sanders/story?id=38068903
Of course, the OP does not include that, nor the following two interesting paragraphs from the article:
This paragraph from the story could also have been helpful:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-tells-greenpeace-activist-shes-sick-sanders/story?id=38068903
bjobotts
(9,141 posts)SunSeeker
(51,657 posts)You are suggesting that no individual who happens to work for a lobbying firm, from the janitors on up to the owners, can donate without that donation being considered a donation on behalf of the clients of that lobbying firm. That is ridiculous.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Quid pro Quo is alive and active in politics. Goldman-Sachs gives her millions because they want something in return. For you to believe their "donations" are altruistic are ridiculous. She has always favored Big Money and they appreciate it.
In this brutal class war where 16,000,000 American children live in poverty, she is on the wrong side. She doesn't tell Goldman-Sachs that they need to help those children, she tells them that she will defend their ability to loot resources from those children. I think that siding with the wealthy as they loot our resources is immoral.
SunSeeker
(51,657 posts)She voted with Sanders 93% of the time when the two were in the Senate. And she voted with the Dems more often than he did.
...
Of course, Sanders wasnt a Democrat until he decided to run for president. Its not a surprise, then, that Sanders went against the party majority three times as often as did Clinton.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/06/the-rare-times-that-hillary-clinton-and-bernie-sanders-disagreed-in-the-senate/
Hillary has fought for poor children her entire adult life. While Bernie was holed up in a shack in Vermont, she was working for the Children's Defense Fund, changing laws that allowed children to be incarcerated with adults in the South. She got 8 million poor kids medical coverage under SCHIP.
Your hateful misrepresentation of her record is similar to the GOP lies about her that have been thrown at her for decades. It is those lies that are "immoral," since they only help Republicans win.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Sen Warren. You want facts, here is a list for you.
Here is a list of issues that the two are miles apart:
As progressives:
We want to Strengthening Social Security (e.g., raising the cap)
We are Opposed to job killing "Free Trade" agreements
We are opposed to fracking for oil company profits over people's water
We want to help college students afford college (telling them to get a job doesn't cut it)
We support making major corps pay their fair share of taxes
We want to end the unregulated domestic spying and making the NSA/CIA Security State have oversight.
Also end drone killing of terrorist "suspects" in foreign lands (100 innocents killed for each suspect)
We are for reducing the defense budget
We are for taking a hard stand against torture and indefinite detention.
We support the end of the militarization of our local police forces.
We want to end Prisons for Profits
We support legalizing marijuana esp. for medical use.
We believe in the need for funding rebuilding our neglected infrastructure.
We support single payer health insurance.
We want to see the regulation of Wall Street (e.g. reinstate Glass-Steagall)
We want to break up the big bank and media monopolies.
We are against American Exceptionalism as an excuse for neocon imperialism.
We support Green Peace and protections for our environment.
She wasn't progressive in 2002 when she betrayed our Party and acquiesced to Bush. Not only supporting the war but helping promulgate the lies.
If she helps those in need she passes the bill on to the lower classes, never asking her wealthy and super wealthy friends to pay their fair share.
SunSeeker
(51,657 posts)There is no point in having a conversation with you if you are going to make stuff up and ignore facts.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)you can refute. But I agree that there is no use continuing. Can't fight the blind adoration. Just remember that people are dying from lack of health care and food due to the greed of the current culture which Clinton belongs and wants to continue.
SunSeeker
(51,657 posts)You're projecting.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)So let's chat about her position on the TPP. Do you think her position is progressive? Do you support her position? Do you know her position? Maybe I can help. I think her position on the TPP is similar to her position on NAFTA, "The American workers are asking for too high of salaries. Ship the jobs to China."
Mudcat
(179 posts)... opposes their expen$ive clients' interests, esp when those donation records are public record?
JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)I've got a bridge to sell you, perfectly mobile n never driven over once.
Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)Lobbyists set their profession aside because they just love Hillary so much.
A SoS that gallivanted around the world securing fracking rights for those companies these lobbyists just happen to work for.
I imagine if Hillary was filmed working at a fracking well head and while taking a check directly from a CEO of Chevron, you would still try to spin it much the same way.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)malthaussen
(17,216 posts)We may differ as to the provenance of the donations. "Lobbyists who just happen to represent oil companies inter alios" handing money out of their own pockets and not from their clients is certainly possible, but one might be reasonably skeptical that there was no connection depending on the size of said contributions.
Nevertheless, implying that a Greenpeace representative is a stooge for the Sanders campaign is at best a diversion... and the candidate avoids answering the question by such misdirection. "Have you stopped beating your wife yet" questions are easily handled with the simple statement "I never have beaten her."
Mrs Clinton is burdened with the "Ceasar's wife" dilemma in spades. If, as her supporters insist, this has been the case for years, then the candidate should be prepared for it, and not allow frustration and aggravation to take control of her tongue... or finger.
-- Mal
pnwmom
(108,990 posts)Earth_First
(14,910 posts)Zira
(1,054 posts)RATM435
(392 posts)Hillary blames bernie for a question greenpeace asks you're losing it lady.
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)that 'butterfly' finds out its still a grubworm in the eyes of voters
(and yet she's still after more grub from Wall Street and Fossils Fuel exec bundlers)
JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)The Guild has attorneys on retainer and 'the mighty monarch' and 'doctor mrs.the monarch' and their dramatic variables are registered trademarks of The Guild of Calamitous Intent, can we NOT invite those diabolical creatures here by accident?
Hekate
(90,773 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)Say it ain't so, Bernie!
Loudestlib
(980 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)First, Hillary yells at this woman and says she is "sick of the Sanders campaign of lying..." which they have not! (lie #1).
Then, Hillary issues a damage-control press release, insinuating that she has no monetary ties to the fossil-fuel industry (lie #2).
Then, she accuses the Sanders campaign of taking "$50,000 from oil and gas companies." (lie #3)
Does she EVER stop????
Sounds like this is more continued unhinged rampage.
Someone needs to give her an Ambien and tell her to put Thursday in the rear-view mirror.
stupidicus
(2,570 posts)Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)of your $600,000 plus speech to Goldman Sachs or shut the "F" up.
7962
(11,841 posts)You knew what was coming, didnt you!?
jalan48
(13,881 posts)dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)With the mainstream news suddenly reporting on the email investigation coming to an end and its not being so ducky for Hillary, I am assuming that means she knows the end is nigh. OR her internal poll numbers suck. OR BOTH.
I'm thinking BOTH.
jalan48
(13,881 posts)Yep-she doesn't like being questioned. She tries to turn it into a gender issue in the debates, but she couldn't do it here. Her answer and attitude were a bit unhinged. Definitely not Presidential.
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)and of course by 'monarch' I mean the sweet orange-suited butterfly she really is
frylock
(34,825 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Hekate
(90,773 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)JoeyT
(6,785 posts)GoldenMean
(49 posts)There are two Hillarys
The calm "mi abuella" Hillary
And the "I'll sic my dogs on you" Hillary
The one thin, masking coat of "mi abuella" is apparently wearing off and we are seeing the real "Sic'em" come through.
dchill
(38,517 posts)Too bad she really can't stop. Too bad her supporters don't even want her to.
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)florida08
(4,106 posts)Where's the cool as a cucumber Secretary who sat though 8 hours of being grilled by Congress? Sounds like someone might be down in the polls---
matt819
(10,749 posts)She may or may not receive money from fossil fuel companies. But her big hinders are fossil fuel lobbyists and she happily accepts donations from fossil fuel executives. And I'll get fossil fuels companies donate to doer pacs. Hey she learned from the best.
Bill: define is
Bill: define sex
Divernan
(15,480 posts)So what if Hillary and her $uperPac take $4 MILLION in campaign "donations" from employees of fossil fuel companies!?!?!?!
So what if Madam Secretary of State made special trips to other countries pushing for the developing of fracking?!?!?!?!?
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/09/hillary-clinton-fracking-shale-state-department-chevron
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/10/hillary-clinton-fracking_n_5796786.html
One icy morning in February 2012, Hillary Clinton's plane touched down in the Bulgarian capital, Sofia, which was just digging out from a fierce blizzard. Wrapped in a thick coat, the secretary of state descended the stairs to the snow-covered tarmac, where she and her aides piled into a motorcade bound for the presidential palace. That afternoon, they huddled with Bulgarian leaders, including Prime Minister Boyko Borissov, discussing everything from Syria's bloody civil war to their joint search for loose nukes. But the focus of the talks was fracking. The previous year, Bulgaria had signed a five-year, $68 million deal, granting US oil giant Chevron millions of acres in shale gas concessions. Bulgarians were outraged. Shortly before Clinton arrived, tens of thousands of protesters poured into the streets carrying placards that read "Stop fracking with our water" and "Chevron go home." Bulgaria's parliament responded by voting overwhelmingly for a fracking moratorium.
Clinton urged Bulgarian officials to give fracking another chance. According to Borissov, she agreed to help fly in the "best specialists on these new technologies to present the benefits to the Bulgarian people." But resistance only grew. The following month in neighboring Romania, thousands of people gathered to protest another Chevron fracking project, and Romania's parliament began weighing its own shale gas moratorium. Again Clinton intervened, dispatching her special envoy for energy in Eurasia, Richard Morningstar, to push back against the fracking bans. The State Department's lobbying effort culminated in late May 2012, when Morningstar held a series of meetings on fracking with top Bulgarian and Romanian officials. He also touted the technology in an interview on Bulgarian national radio, saying it could lead to a fivefold drop in the price of natural gas. A few weeks later, Romania's parliament voted down its proposed fracking ban and Bulgaria's eased its moratorium.
The episode sheds light on a crucial but little-known dimension of Clinton's diplomatic legacy. Under her leadership, the State Department worked closely with energy companies to spread fracking around the globepart of a broader push to fight climate change, boost global energy supply, and undercut the power of adversaries such as Russia that use their energy resources as a cudgel. But environmental groups fear that exporting fracking, which has been linked to drinking-water contamination and earthquakes at home, could wreak havoc in countries with scant environmental regulation. And according to interviews, diplomatic cables, and other documents obtained by Mother Jones, American officialssome with deep ties to industryalso helped US firms clinch potentially lucrative shale concessions overseas, raising troubling questions about whose interests the program actually serves.
The episode sheds light on a crucial but little-known dimension of Clinton's diplomatic legacy. Under her leadership, the State Department worked closely with energy companies to spread fracking around the globepart of a broader push to fight climate change, boost global energy supply, and undercut the power of adversaries such as Russia that use their energy resources as a cudgel. But environmental groups fear that exporting fracking, which has been linked to drinking-water contamination and earthquakes at home, could wreak havoc in countries with scant environmental regulation. And according to interviews, diplomatic cables, and other documents obtained by Mother Jones, American officialssome with deep ties to industryalso helped US firms clinch potentially lucrative shale concessions overseas, raising troubling questions about whose interests the program actually serves.
John Poet
(2,510 posts)My apologies to John & Yoko.
bjobotts
(9,141 posts)But she immediately tried to place blame on him but interviewer never mentioned him. Shows Clinton trying to misdirect rather than say yes or no.
iamthebandfanman
(8,127 posts)what a joke.
its not his campaign that dislikes her so much... its just that the majority of our ENTIRE COUNTRY doesn't trust her and/or see her favorably (according to polls at least) ...
MJJP21
(329 posts)Delusional is the only word that accurately describes her reaction. I really believe she now sees the presidency slipping away and cannot deal with it. She is now losing support among non white voters which was her ace in the hole.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)I guess Greenpeace is on her enemies list.
I love the pivot to Sanders being the source of the question.
This should be good.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)How did Hillary immediately claim "Bernie supporter"? Greenpeace activist...could easily be a Jill Stein supporter.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)It appears to be an attempt to gin up more controversy.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)Hillary volcanic meltdown in the works?
davidthegnome
(2,983 posts)If this is a denial that her campaign receives funding from the fossil fuel industry... then it's pointless - a lot of this stuff is a matter of public record. If Bernie is telling lies, point them out to us - and I will be right there with you in holding him accountable. First though, you have to demonstrate that he's actually telling lies and not uncomfortable truths.
SunSeeker
(51,657 posts)Something the OP ommitted in its excerpts from the article:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-tells-greenpeace-activist-shes-sick-sanders/story?id=38068903
The Sanders campaign is suggesting that no individual who happens to work for a lobbying firm, from the janitors on up to the owners, can donate without that donation being considered a donation on behalf of the clients of that lobbying firm. That is ridiculous. Just as ridiculous as suggesting that individuals who work at oil companies are donating on behalf of their employer. That would be a crime. That is not what is happening. Individuals who work at oil companies have given to both Hillary and Sanders. And no oil company has given to Hillary.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/clinton-lashes-out-environmental-activists-n548816
So is Sanders going to give back that $54,000 because it came "from fossil fuel companies"?
davidthegnome
(2,983 posts)I know it's a crime for the companies to contribute directly/donating on an employer's behalf - which is why they work through PACs. Didn't make much sense to me either that either Sanders or Clinton would get money from a fossil fuel industry PAC, I also did not know that Clinton had not taken money from PACs tied to oil and gas. Some times it's hard to put things in perspective. These individual contributions are a big difference.
One thing I'm trying to figure out (and maybe this is a dumb question, I don't know) is... "What does it mean that these people are bundling contributions?" Another poster pointed out that 11 lobbyists had bundled over 1 million dollars for her campaign. I really don't know what a "bundler" is, in regards to terms of finance and lobbying, etc.
Checking out a Mother Jones article indicates that former lobbyists have aligned themselves with the Clinton campaign - but that is different from direct PAC contributions.
I think the conversation needs to be about the truth - and I think we need to be fair when we are telling it. From what I can see, it doesn't look like Clinton is getting big money from the fossil fuel industry specifically, other than what came from individual donors - and bundlers, whatever the heck bundlers are. I'd like to see any direct quotes from Sanders that say otherwise though. I don't think I have.
My concern is more a matter of policy (what she will do as President, as regards fracking/so called "natural gas" industry. I'm worried about Clinton's history of support for fracking, natural gas - and so on, the data that we have indicates some really immense potential dangers and disasters. Particularly, in regards to this so called "clean natural gas", the information on just how much methane is leaking into the atmosphere seems to reach the EPA directly from the industry itself - while independent studies suggest a huge, huge problem. That's ignoring, for the moment... flammable tap water, earth quakes and so on.
Now all of that having been said... this whole argument is (for me) more evidence of why we need clean elections, without exception. Tax payer funded - funded by the public and individual contributions only. That would go a long way towards taking a lot of the dirty money out of politics. I realize you have to work with the system you have - and not the one you wish you had... but we really need to get some legislation moving on this, hopefully something that can appeal to the supreme court to dismantle Citizens United.
crim son
(27,464 posts)which is why you have not had a response from the Hillary gang.
pnwmom
(108,990 posts)in the industry. My husband works for a large corporation and when we give, we have to put his company's name down, and it gets reported as one of the donations given by employees who work there. But no one's telling us who or how much to donate to. It's not a donation from his company. It's a donation from us.
It's the same thing with the fossil fuel industry. Both Hillary and Bernie have gotten donations from INDIVIDUALS who work there. And neither have gotten donations from the companies themselves.
I don't think Bernie himself is lying about this, but many of his supporters are being very deceptive.
Bodych
(133 posts)Late last year, she had amassed a nice 6-figure amount from former lobbyists at Chevron, Transcanada, and assorted individuals in the fossil fuel industry. It was on FactCheck.org and Huffpo.
It's not a secret. Not sure why she's so angry and sick.
Vote2016
(1,198 posts)JudyM
(29,265 posts)Certainly seems that way.
Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Divernan
(15,480 posts)Finger-jabbing, yes.
Angry voice, yes
Tears, no.
Some trust fund baby/unpaid campaign intern will be sent back to his/her Daddy's gated mansion in the Hamptons for letting a Greenpeace member into the handshake line. Oh well, it will make a good story for his/her classmates when he/she starts her Harvard MBA program next September.
karynnj
(59,504 posts)woman. I get that she felt the question, which was really an accusation, was unfair, but HRC MADE this a story by responding with the fury that she did.
In fact, imagine had this been a man - any male candidate. Imagine that Bernie responded exactly as Clinton did, moving closer to the young woman as she did. That would have made almost everyone here - including many Sanders supporters uneasy. Now, imagine it was Trump, what would the conversation have been? In fact, Clinton - for the most part - gets a pass as many start up the meme that men, but not women are allowed to show anger.
Now, consider the accusations and actions of the BLM women in Seattle, could Bernie have gone after one of them in this matter and been defended here on DU? Not really -- there were many who praised the BLM women and blamed Sanders that some of his supporters were angry that they would not get to hear Sanders, who they came to hear and were almost a captive audience for BLM.
Hekate
(90,773 posts)...berserk.
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SHRED
(28,136 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)I'm getting really irritated with self-righteous Bernie supporters too.
I've been avoiding GD-P lately because I was about to tell some folks what I think of them.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Now it's somehow Bernie's fault?
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)RANGERMAN89
(91 posts)Also when did Greenpeace become Bernie Sanders?
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)This is an example of what I mean.
I didn't actually mention Bernie at all. I mentioned his supporters. But not one, but two replies have me blaming Bernie.
RANGERMAN89
(91 posts)Affiliation with the girl? Do you also agree that Bernie Sanders had no part in the spreading of factual information about Clinton campaign donors? If you agree to any of this it means you said "good" for Hillary for telling a lie!
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)But I understand Hillary's frustaration with the artful smears.
I've defriended several people I basically agree with politically, becuase they can't stop themselves from shitting on any post I make that is positive about Hillary.
Fuck that.
RANGERMAN89
(91 posts)But Hillary Clinton made the artfull smear on Bernie as a liar when access to Google proves that the girl didn't lie and Bernie has absolutely no control over who gives her millions. Bringing Bernie into the mix when questioned about her donations just screams that she is a corrupt liar unable to defend herself so she makes a half-baked attempt to put all the blame on Sanders.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)I'm not interested in more of this for now. I've had my fill of it.
RANGERMAN89
(91 posts)Again I am just calling it like I see it but I'll let it drop if you want to drop it.
revbones
(3,660 posts)JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)Ever have a parishioner ask for councel and then want to drop it the second it's not a talk they were expecting? Same thing.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)They stick to their own goals and issues in a singular fashion. If she wants to make an enemy of Greenpeace, such would be ill advised however.
You are building a fine straw man out of a Greenpeace activist, however much you stuff it tho, it will not be, a Sanders poppet
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)You are apparently the only person in the nation who knows what she's referring to. Spill.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)But HRC has recieved no money from petroleum companies or PACs. It's been from inviduals eho work for such companies and "lobbyists" who have ever done any work for such companies.
That may still bother Sandernistas, but it's not exactly what it is suggested by the he kler either.
And with that I'm out. I had a nasty exchange with a couple bernie supporter now-former friends earlier today and I need a break from this nonsense to maintain some perspective.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)And I think you know it.
RandySF
(59,153 posts)abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)Oh Twitter...
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)I am a Bernie supporter with compassion.
Think of what these presidential candidates go through. Day after day... mobs of people. Constant stress from so many angles we can't even imagine. I for one have some days that I have gotten angry with people. Haven't you?
I call for compassion from all of us.
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)...and what it could mean to everyone on earth and all of its critters if she blows up at somebody with the nukes to answer back, or even no nukes. (Even a limited use of nukes will trigger "nuclear winter" and we won't have to wait for global warming to do in our only planet.)
And that is not the only danger, of course--although it's the biggest one--with an unstable president. There is also commander in chief of all the other weapons and all the military services. There are REALLY touchy relations right now with China (a nuke power) and Russia (a nuke power), threats by North Korea, and extraordinary chaos in the Middle East, in Iraq, concerning which Clinton made the WRONG decision to back Bush's war on Iraq; in Libya--concerning which Clinton made the WRONG decision to support invasion and the killing of Gaddaffi ("We came. We conquered. He Died!"--with a laugh, spoken by Clinton, on vid) which caused utter destabilization of Libya; and her decision to try to do the same to Syria--all of which has given rise to IS, the worst and craziest jihadists (and worst woman haters) yet.
And one more: her decision as Sec of State to support a fascist military coup in Honduras, which unleashed fascist death squads and the murders, rapes and other brutalities against thousands of women who have led the peaceful opposition to the fascists. And this wretched decision of Clinton's aroused universal hostility in Latin America to President Obama, who has had to delay his original intention to improve relations with Latin America, until now, at the end of his presidency.
Clinton furthermore has a war criminal as an close adviser (Henry Kissinger, for godssakes) and a warmonger as an adviser (Robert Kagan--author of Bush, Cheney & Rumsfeld's blueprint for destabilizing and taking over the Middle East--the "Project for a New American Century" .
If Clinton is so volatile that she can't take an honest question from a Greenpeace member, and blows up at the Sanders campaign which had nothing to do with it, is she not telegraphing instability, and would she not be a tool for these evil men to manipulate?
If Clinton can't take the pressure of this campaign, she can't take the pressure of the office she is seeking. There are MANY women with the intelligence and steadiness and leadership abilities to hold that office. I'm afraid Clinton is not one of them.
It is not a matter of compassion. Indeed, I have actually felt compassion for Clinton as a woman--though I'm a strong Sanders supporter. I have felt sorry for her, as a woman, as a person. But I think she's so caught up in a tangle of lies and ambition that I profoundly distrust her. I will take you a secret. I was not at all surprised at this outburst. I sensed some months ago that she was barely holding it together. I saw such tension in her eyes, in her face and in her posture, during one of the early debates, that it startled me. I thought: am I projecting, just because I'm a Sanders supporter? I thought about it a lot--wondered if I was fantasizing. Well, I'm thinking now that it was a good perception.
I agree with your call for compassion from all of us. But I would also light a candle for compassion FOR all of us--for all who will suffer from a Clinton presidency, and for all who will suffer from any Republican presidency. And a third candle for the alternative that we are blessed with: Bernie Sanders.
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)I think save my compassion for someone who deserves it.
This is an example of bad acts and slimy tactics coming home to roost.
Skittles
(153,174 posts)GET WITH THE PROGRAM EQUINOX MOON!
navarth
(5,927 posts)Myrina
(12,296 posts)"I never did give anybody hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell."
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Show some love, click the link for much more text, and some lovely photos.
by Cassady Sharp
March 28, 2016
We flew our thermal airship over a Clinton campaign event in Seattle asking Hillary to say no to fossil fuel money.
Greenpeace flew its thermal airship last week in Seattle before the Washington State Democratic caucus with a message urging Secretary Clinton to Say No To Fossil Fuel Money. Joined by more than 20 partners, Greenpeace has been campaigning for Secretary Clinton to drop her fossil fuel connections since January.
Greenpeace also flew its thermal airship with the message to Secretary Clinton last month in Las Vegas during the Democratic Nevada caucus. Volunteers have also brought the demand for Clinton to reject fossil fuel money to more than 10 fundraisers, debates and rallies across the country. Secretary Clinton responded to Greenpeaces request last month committing to initiate a process that would reverse the effect of the Citizens United decision and restore the full protections of the Voting Rights Act. However, the statement did not include a commitment to reject fossil fuel money.
According to data compiled by Greenpeaces research department, Secretary Clintons campaign and the Super PAC supporting her have received more than $4.5 million from the fossil fuel industry during the 2016 election cycle. While Greenpeace does not officially endorse any political candidate or party, were determined to show each candidate that our membership is looking for meaningful climate action and environmental justice in their platforms and policies.
I posted this earlier, in another thread.
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)LS_Editor
(893 posts)virgdem
(2,126 posts)I hate to see how she will react when Trump goes after her. He will rip her to shreds and she won't know what hit her.
Hekate
(90,773 posts)But someone yelling lies right in your face pretty much deserves what she gave in return.
roody
(10,849 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Nyan
(1,192 posts)She tends to overreact and overcompensate when you hit her where it hurts.
When she was called out for Wall Street ties, she summoned 9/11, women, and Obama.
And she's going way overboard about this when she could simply deny or downplay it.
Omaha Steve
(99,698 posts)$ from people in the industry isn't the same as from the company.
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/272001-sanders-my-answer-is-a-lot-shorter-than-clinton-on-fracking
By Devin Henry - 03/06/16 10:03 PM EST
Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders on Sunday night mocked Hillary Clintons numerous conditions for allowing hydraulic fracturing operations.
My answer is a lot shorter, he said, responding to a debate question about whether the candidates support fracking, a procedure in which pressurized water and chemicals are injected into the ground to release oil and natural gas.
No, I do not support fracking, he said to cheers from the debate crowd in Flint, Mich.
Clinton said she opposes individual fracking operations if a series of conditions are met: if local communities oppose it, if the drilling releases methane or contaminates water or if fracking operators aren't required to identify the chemicals they are using.
FULL story at link.
lasttrip
(1,013 posts)Peace.
LT
LittleGirl
(8,288 posts)I missed that part of that debate and appreciate seeing it for the first time! Cheers!
SamKnause
(13,110 posts)Never !!!!!!!!!!
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Hekate
(90,773 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)Hekate
(90,773 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)Hekate
(90,773 posts)tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)heck, it might even bleed into the Sunday shows... So 'Presidential', screaming and pointing down at a young girl voter. Could she have picked a worse target to prove she ain't got no class?
JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)That girl was onlbviously hell bound.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)elmac
(4,642 posts)Response to LiberalElite (Reply #90)
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SunSeeker
(51,657 posts)This paragraph from the story could also have been helpful:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-tells-greenpeace-activist-shes-sick-sanders/story?id=38068903
Way to be "fair and balanced," DisgustipatedinCA.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)It said no DIRECT donations. DIRECT donations would be ILLEGAL.
"One small aside, the former New York senator said she didnt think she ever has received money from the fossil fuel industry. But in years past, before this election cycle, her Senate campaign has accepted a small amount a total of about $12,500 from PACs tied to the oil and gas industry. According to research by the Center for Responsive Politics, based on data from the Federal Election Commission, Clintons Senate campaign has received seven contributions from oil-and-gas-related PACs between 2000 and 2008, including a $2,500 donation from the Society of Independent Gasoline Marketers in 2006 and a $5,000 contribution from Occidental Petroleum in 2000."
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/12/clinton-and-fossil-fuel-money/
SunSeeker
(51,657 posts)Meanwhile, according to your link, Hillary YEARS AGO, got "a total of about $12,500 from PACs tied to the oil and gas industry." And as you note, is not for this campaign, and not directly from oil companies. So the claim the Sanders campaign is making is dishonest.
Hekate
(90,773 posts)Right?
Why has he not?
pnwmom
(108,990 posts)And that is deceptive.
oregonjen
(3,338 posts)Divernan
(15,480 posts)Among the prominent contributors to Clintons campaign are lobbyists for Chevron, ExxonMobil, BP America, Americas Natural Gas Alliance and more.
Clintons campaign also has links to the Keystone XL pipeline, a project of the corporation TransCanada that has faced a series of delays since it was commissioned in 2010. Environmental scientists like former NASA official James Hansen have warned it would mean game over for the climate, and activists have protested it for years. In June 2015, Clintons campaign announced that it had hired a former major TransCanada lobbyist as a consultant.
As secretary of state, Clinton also pushed for the pipeline. In 2010, she said her department was inclined to sign off on the project.
During her tenure as head of the State Department, Clinton also advocated strongly on behalf of the Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement, or TPP, which environmental and labor groups warn would be disastrous for the climate and local economy. Although the deal is 6,000 pages long and addresses a variety of obscure issues, it does not mention the phrase climate change once.
Hekate
(90,773 posts)....if HRC just happens to be the nominee for the General Election?
What to do, what to do...
Javaman
(62,532 posts)Z_California
(650 posts)I'll wait.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)i smell bad internals in ny.....
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)afterall, they've got their state voters to consider... and if their voters dislike Hillary 75% to 25%, why should they put themselves at risk for her?
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)who are concernes they may lose their investment...
revbones
(3,660 posts)According to Hillary followers, it's well-known that anyone questioning Hillary or saying anything negative about her, is most definitely a right-winger.
The woman questioning her about fossil fuels was from Greenpeace.
Greenpeace is now a right-wing organization???
Mind. Blown.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)And she seems to have a persistent cough & hoarse voice.
I'm betting she's edgy from her campaign schedule.
Friend or foe, let's pray she makes it through to the convention.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Or read us those Wall Street transcripts!
How about those fundraisers in Mexico City, London (done by Chels!) and don't forget those TWO coming up with the Clooney's! We are all just dying to hear about them!
And then there is...
Oh, who the hell has even enough time to rattle off all the garbage that she has going on.
40+ years of her and Bullhorn Slick Willy being in our faces, about something.
No More Clintons...EVER!
Blue Owl
(50,486 posts)n/t
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)was indeed a Sanders supporter. My guess is they aren't.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)get under some one's skin....their zealotry is no different than that of the RW...except the RW is dominated by it....and democrats, progressives and liberals are not
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)deutsey
(20,166 posts)Bernie Sanders supporters on Twitter have taken over the medium once again, this time to use Hillary Clintons own words to protest her policies.
Earlier today, Clinton made headlines when she was caught on video exploding at a Greenpeace activist who asked her to pledge to not accept one more dollar in campaign funds from the fossil fuel industry.
While Clinton acknowledged that some of her donors worked for the fossil fuel industry, she adamantly denied any ties to the industry itself, telling the activist Im so sick of the Sanders campaign harping on her friendliness toward the oil and gas industries.
Sanders supporters have now made #ImSoSick into a top national trend, using the former Secretary of States words to describe how they were sick of her policies, closeness to the political establishment, and doublespeak on the campaign trail.
#ImSoSick of Hillary pretending to fight for the people while taking millions in contributions from millionaires. #ImSoSick
Mimzy (@Mimzy122) March 31, 2016
#ImSoSick of HRC pretending we can't afford tuition-free public college when she voted for a war that cost 7 trillion dollars.
Goodbye Third Way (@PittsBern) March 31, 2016
romanic
(2,841 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)bread_and_roses
(6,335 posts)"Last night, Sen. Sanders agreed Donald Trumps comments were shameful," Clinton said during a campaign rally in Purchase, New York on Thursday. "Then he said they were a distraction from the, and I quote, 'serious discussion about serious issues facing America.'"
Though MSNBC acknowledged in its online reporting that Sanders never used the word "distraction" to describe either the issue of abortion or Trump's commentsand clarified that only later in their exchange did Sanders make the larger critique about how the media has consistently given too much attention to whatever absurdity comes out of the bombastic billionaire's mouthClinton made no such distinction in her speech on Thursday.
No comment necessary - says it all
Arizona Roadrunner
(168 posts)The following is VERY interesting!
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/clinton-sanders-trump-abortion
Riverbends
(6 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)Madmiddle
(459 posts)She just can't stop lying.
Democat
(11,617 posts)You sound like Rush Limbaugh.
DU should ban anyone who uses right wing name calling against any Democratic candidate.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Poor old Shillary.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1399075
REASON FOR ALERT
COMMENTS
Can someone start banning people who use right wing personal attacks and name calling on the Clinton's outside of the Primaries forum? I don't care if Clinton or Sanders win, but name calling the Democratic candidate does not belong here.
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Apr 1, 2016, 09:13 AM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: If I had a penny for every name Bernie and his supporters have been called on DU, I would be one of the billionaires he talks about.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: A personalized attack on a bona fide candidate with no specifics and nothing to back it up seems beyond the pale as far as I can see.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Name calling is not necessary, shillary and or bernie bros...not doing anyone any good..
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: DISRUPTOR ... Four posts hidden in the past 90 days.
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Purveyor
(29,876 posts)been blackballed from doing jury service for doing such.
Haven't been called for jury duty in over a week.
Of course one isn't notified of this which make me wonder how many other Sanders support have been put 'in the tank'?
merrily
(45,251 posts)jury results as much as I possibly can, whether or not I agree with the outcome. If I get punished for that, I get punished for that.
You might inquire in ATA about your situation, especially if you are a star member because increased chance of being on a jury was part of what our donations were supposed to buy us.
Isn't it funny that the violators are not punished, but the jurors are?
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)lowly ones inquiries.
merrily
(45,251 posts)September.
The last time I checked was when I posted about a banning that seemed very unfair. No response so far, but it's only been three and a half months.
Zira
(1,054 posts)and haven't served on once since. Of course I happily posted the results in the Clinton group where they failed to hide a post.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)uppityperson
(115,678 posts)Mine switched somehow to not being on a jury, maybe yours did too
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)Willing to serve on Juries: Yes
Chance of serving on Juries: 40% (explain)
No, I'm in the can as I suspect many Bernie supporter are.
Doesn't matter much other than the cowardly approach in the way it is handled i.e. no notice/reason given.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)GMAFB!!
d_legendary1
(2,586 posts)that she's taking money from the Fossil Fuel industry. And she wonders why she's not resonating with the voters in blue states...
INdemo
(6,994 posts)"I've wanted this for 30 years. No one or nothing is going to stop me"
Hillary's internal polling is probably showing she is behind in NY and Wisc.
Look for Bill to pack up his bull horn and Bull Shit and head to NY soon.
GoldenMean
(49 posts)Green Peace splashed Hillary with the water of truth
"And I'll get your Bernie dog too!"
liberalhistorian
(20,819 posts)Well, I'm sick of your acting like you shouldn't have to have any competition whatsoever, that you are entitled to and owed votes and that it should just be a coronation instead of a democratic process where we, the people, have CHOICES. You are not a Queen and apparently you can't handle any legitimate questions or opposition and that is not in the least presidential.
BlueMTexpat
(15,372 posts)at least 2.5 million voters so far prefer Hillary to Bernie? That number will continue to grow.
That doesn't fit your Queen/coronation narrative. Nor are those voters brainwashed corporatists - one of the kinder things I have been called and which does not at all endear Bernie to me.
BlueMTexpat
(15,372 posts)But facts don't conform to the Sanders campaign narrative nor to the perceptions of some of his supporters.
Javaman
(62,532 posts)So far in the 2016 campaign, Clinton has received about $160,000 in contributions from people who work for oil and gas companies, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. But those contributions would not run afoul of the groups pledge.
A Republican super PAC, America Rising, scoffed at Clintons response, claiming that she has literally taken millions of dollars from the oil and gas industry. But the PAC is including money oil companies donated to the Clinton Foundation which is a charitable foundation that is unaffiliated with the Clinton campaign and would have no bearing on the pledge.
In its press release, America Rising points to a Huffington Post analysis that found [n]early all of the lobbyists bundling contributions for Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clintons campaign have at one time or another worked for the fossil fuel industry. Among them are current or former lobbyists for Chevron and TransCanada, the company that tried to build the Keystone XL pipeline. America Rising also points to millions of dollars donated by oil companies to the Clinton Foundation a charitable foundation that is not affiliated with Clintons presidential campaign and to the fact that Clinton owns shares of a mutual fund that invests in some oil and gas companies.
Those kinds of ties raise serious concerns for the folks at 350 Action, even though none of that has any bearing on the pledge.
Right now, in terms of the pledge, shes probably in accordance with it, said Jamie Henn of 350 Action. But this is a gray area. I would grade her a B-minus.
more at link...
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)Greenpeace doesn't speak for Bernie so get your head out of your *** and think straight, heck Sea Shepherd and Greenpeace no longer get along SS calls them a lobbying group and thats all. Eh Don't quite agree. But saying that to another female kinda doesn't help much. Naturally she things Bernie went negative negative means lying naturally he must be lying. I haven't found anything of the sort. But she does often lie about him. I'm just waiting to see what happens when she goes after his wife. I suppose hillary will attack her for not doing the laundry or dishes and letting a MAN do it.
Cheap_Trick
(3,918 posts)I'll call the Waaaaaaahmbulance, stat.
Don Draper
(187 posts)If she was being honest, she would have said "Hell yes I will take money from the fossil fuel companies."
She is such an inspiring candidate lol!
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)She likes to scream at workers and she cusses too! She is already known to have anger issues, and she's nasty toward workers in a way that would not be allowed in any other workplace. Period. They new voters are not aware of this. She is a very nasty woman when it's not going her way. Anyone has a right to ask a question, that is the process in this contest. She shows such contempt!
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Hekate
(90,773 posts)You could get your eye poked out when Bernie's agitated -- which is nearly all the time.
Which brings me to this: Double standard for women when it comes to showing temper. He's "passionate." She's "berserk."
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SunSeeker
(51,657 posts)Bernie can point his finger at Hillary in the debates and he's just being assertive. But when she does it she is "out of control." Disgusting.
TxGrandpa
(124 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Can't wait for her to go up to Moscow to tell Putin to knock it off. I'm sure if she jabs her finger in his face enough times, he'll cave.
I swear he talks to people like she thinks they're naughty housecats.
Avalon Sparks
(2,566 posts)Avalon Sparks
(2,566 posts)lewebley3
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that has been put to her:
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)There's enough misinformation going around, it's probably best to condemn lies against progressives no matter where they're coming from. That's just me.
Democat
(11,617 posts)Where right wing trolls are the norm.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)Hope you enjoy a good weekend.