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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 04:38 AM Jun 2012

EU unveils plan to protect taxpayers from failing banks

Source: BBC News

Proposals designed to stop taxpayers' money being used to bail out failed banks will be unveiled by the European Commission later.

They aim to ensure losses are borne by bank shareholders and creditors and minimise costs for taxpayers.

It wants to prevent runs on banks in one country - such as Spain or Greece - pulling down the entire system.

A key goal is to make sure that essential everyday banking functions - such as cash machines - are kept going.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18333240

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EU unveils plan to protect taxpayers from failing banks (Original Post) dipsydoodle Jun 2012 OP
They need a run. boppers Jun 2012 #1
Fat lot of good that would do dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #2
It would teach the poor about keeping money at banks. boppers Jun 2012 #3
Personally, I use credit unions. Jackpine Radical Jun 2012 #12
Same here. Better service, nicer people, and the money stays local, not on wall street. eom boppers Jun 2012 #16
that has already happened.... MindMover Jun 2012 #15
Does the EU have anything like FDIC? nt Flatulo Jun 2012 #4
No idea in general. dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #5
Each country has to implement a €100,000 guarantee muriel_volestrangler Jun 2012 #6
That doesn't seem to take general effect until the end of 2012 dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #7
You pay them in new Drachmas rootProbiscus Jun 2012 #8
This could be a good time to start selling wheelbarrows and trunks to the Greeks Flatulo Jun 2012 #14
The €100,000 level was set at the end of 2010 muriel_volestrangler Jun 2012 #9
I understand now dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #11
Well, normally they would sell bonds, but even Flatulo Jun 2012 #13
Now that venture capitalism has captured all the money nineteen50 Jun 2012 #10

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
2. Fat lot of good that would do
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 05:14 AM
Jun 2012

The rich would use electronic transfers leaving the poor to deal with it queuing at empty banks.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
5. No idea in general.
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 05:50 AM
Jun 2012

I only know that the UK does - £80000 for consumers and small businesses : I think. I would assume its up to each country and if that is the case, then in this instance , if the Greek government has no funds then what would they pay out from ?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
6. Each country has to implement a €100,000 guarantee
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 05:57 AM
Jun 2012
http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=MEMO/10/318&format=HTML&aged=0&language=EN&guiLanguage=en

That FAQ, from a couple of years ago, says an EU-wide (or Eurozone-wide) scheme would have advantages - bigger, so less likely that a bank failure could swamp it, less administrative overhead. So that may be part of the upcoming announcement.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
7. That doesn't seem to take general effect until the end of 2012
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 06:13 AM
Jun 2012

with some aspects dated 2020.

Currently the €100,000 figure equates to our £80,000 whatever.

The subject does however leave the question where would the funds come from now in the cases of Spain and Greece ?

rootProbiscus

(38 posts)
8. You pay them in new Drachmas
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:17 AM
Jun 2012

So the country starts its new Drachma life with a new currency and already a gigantic debt in the new currency.
But at least they can then print more and more new drachmas
And hyperinflation will not happen, the new drachma will hold at reasonable level - say 1,000,000,000 to the euro, very reasonable.
And it will return to parity when hyperinflation hits the euro 6 months later anyway.
It is all good fun isn't it!

 

Flatulo

(5,005 posts)
14. This could be a good time to start selling wheelbarrows and trunks to the Greeks
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 03:00 PM
Jun 2012

for carrying around loose change.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
9. The €100,000 level was set at the end of 2010
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:21 AM
Jun 2012

The 2012 changes are about some other change that that particular release was about.

3) What is the current level of deposit protection in the EU? How is this going to change in the future?

When the financial crisis hit in autumn 2008, Member States decided that the level of deposit protection should be gradually but quickly increased in the EU. A Directive adopted in March 2009 required coverage to be increased from a minimum of € 20 000 to at least € 50 000 by June 2010 and to a uniform level of € 100 000 by the end of 2010. Today's proposal – following an impact assessment on the move to € 100 000 – confirm the € 100 000 figure.

On the basis of a coverage of € 100 000, 95% of eligible accounts will be fully covered, 7% more than before the crisis.


 

Flatulo

(5,005 posts)
13. Well, normally they would sell bonds, but even
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 02:58 PM
Jun 2012

at six or seven percent rate of return, there don't seem to be many takers.

In the US, the Fed can print money to re-capitalize banks, but I don't know if the ECB can do the same thing.

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