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Judi Lynn

(160,632 posts)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 05:39 AM Jun 2012

Panetta to Encourage India for Larger Role in War

Source: Associated Press

Panetta to Encourage India for Larger Role in War
NEW DELHI June 5, 2012 (AP)

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta has arrived in India where he will encourage leaders to take a more active role in Afghanistan.

India has played a somewhat limited role in the war, largely doing economic development and reconstruction.

U.S. defense officials said Panetta will talk with Indian officials about possibly helping to train the Afghan army and police.

The discussions are likely to roil America's already tense relations with Pakistan, which has long had a rocky, distrusting relationship with India.


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Panetta to Encourage India for Larger Role in War (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jun 2012 OP
please, NO Skittles Jun 2012 #1
Agreed Sherman A1 Jun 2012 #2
Panetta is a shit stirring troll. Warren Stupidity Jun 2012 #3
Agreed - cruisin' for a bruisin' MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #5
Same thoughts as you guys. Jackpine Radical Jun 2012 #9
Can you imagine how bad it would be MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #10
But really--they only have SMALL nukes. Jackpine Radical Jun 2012 #19
a clueless moron with know knowledge of India/Pak history may3rd Jun 2012 #11
President Obama is doing a good job on this issue. limpyhobbler Jun 2012 #4
The exit strategy no longer goes through Pakistan may3rd Jun 2012 #12
Yeah, it's getting boring with the wars winding down. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2012 #6
It would be setting up India for a proxy war with Pakistan using Afghanistan. no_hypocrisy Jun 2012 #7
Panetta is a fucking warmonger! lunatica Jun 2012 #8
No he isn't! limpyhobbler Jun 2012 #14
He isn't meekly "just following orders" lunatica Jun 2012 #17
I have a suspicion this is more of a Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #33
India will never agree to this anyway cosmicone Jun 2012 #13
I know Cosmicone wants the "disintegration of Pakistan," but... Comrade Grumpy Jun 2012 #27
Balkanization of Pakistan cosmicone Jun 2012 #30
And that is all the more reason to strongly oppose this moronic proposal. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #29
Pakistan is a lot of hot air. cosmicone Jun 2012 #32
Lots of 'opinions' in that comment. Not shared, btw, with those who actually rely on facts sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #34
By all means.. let's throw gasoline on the fire..... lib2DaBone Jun 2012 #15
Stupid. closeupready Jun 2012 #16
So now we know why Bush gave them preferred status and nukes way back when lunatica Jun 2012 #18
Cause if there's one thing the Pakistanis love more than Americans bombing Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #20
Leon must be trying to win a Nobel Peace Prize also.... n/t IamK Jun 2012 #21
Great, turn Afghanistan into a proxy war playground between Pakistan and India. Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #22
WTF the last thing we need is for Pakistan to feel like the Indian military is encircling them. Exultant Democracy Jun 2012 #23
Good Lord what a fool. nt bemildred Jun 2012 #24
good idea, widen the war and then we can have WWIII and really show those people! wordpix Jun 2012 #25
betcha dollars to donuts dixiegrrrrl Jun 2012 #26
27 replies, but I see only 19. closeupready Jun 2012 #28
Oh, yeah. Good luck with that tawadi Jun 2012 #31
Centrist FP is WORKING, folks. nt Dr Fate Jun 2012 #35

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
9. Same thoughts as you guys.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 07:29 AM
Jun 2012

Unfortunately, I could see India going along with this insanity, if only to get their troops on both sides of Pakistan.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
10. Can you imagine how bad it would be
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 07:38 AM
Jun 2012

If India and Pakistan obtained nukes? It would be encouraging two nuclear powers to go to war.

Oh wait...

 

may3rd

(593 posts)
11. a clueless moron with know knowledge of India/Pak history
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 07:40 AM
Jun 2012

What would it be, the 5th war between the states ?
Those two only need a flash point and Afghanistan would easily be a handy trigger

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
4. President Obama is doing a good job on this issue.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 06:48 AM
Jun 2012

This is probably just a trial balloon they are floating out there to see what kind of reaction it gets.

I'll be surprised to see Indian troops in Afghanistan.

But hey if they are willing to do it, let them do it. After all our guys could use a break.


 

may3rd

(593 posts)
12. The exit strategy no longer goes through Pakistan
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 07:43 AM
Jun 2012

Seems things were hammered out under the radar at the NATO Chicago meeting.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
8. Panetta is a fucking warmonger!
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 07:22 AM
Jun 2012

Now we're going around trying to make other countries fight our wars for us just so we can have a foot in the door in order to send our drones in?

What is this? As we draw down our troops we get countries like India to take our place now so we can control the situation?

The really hideous part of this is that some Americans will be perfectly OK with this.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
14. No he isn't!
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 08:07 AM
Jun 2012

He just takes orders from the President and the whole team figures this stuff out together.

Panetta is not doing freelance foreign policy.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
17. He isn't meekly "just following orders"
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:04 AM
Jun 2012

And if you read my thread you'll understand that I'm quite aware that he isn't freelancing. I'm sure he isn't solely responsible for sending drones. And he is a warmonger. Otherwise he'd resign.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
33. I have a suspicion this is more of a
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 03:55 PM
Jun 2012

"Persuade India to buy more U.S. war toys" -thing rather than actually trying to deploy the Indian military in battle...

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
13. India will never agree to this anyway
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 08:03 AM
Jun 2012

unless preceded by a sustained air campaign against Pakistan by the US that weakens Pakistani military.

Also, India wants a final exit strategy via a disintegration of Pakistan.

The US has always pressured India to not fund the separatist movements in Baluchistan and Sindh

With a sustained air campaign against Pakistan, cutting off Pakistan's aid and curtains on the the way Pakistan was created by the brits, India may indeed help in Afghanistan.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
27. I know Cosmicone wants the "disintegration of Pakistan," but...
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 02:23 PM
Jun 2012

...does India really? Massive instability on its borders? Loose nukes?

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
30. Balkanization of Pakistan
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 03:21 PM
Jun 2012

is India's long term goal laid down by Indira Gandhi in 1970. It began with liberation of Bangladesh (which used to be East Pakistan.) Bangladesh has been peaceful and trouble free since then.

Unfortunately, massive amounts of aid to Pakistan delayed its eventual disintegration. Over 170 billion US dollars have been poured into this terrorist state which is a menace to its neighbors.

Liberation movements exist in Baluchistan and Sindh already and they will eventually succeed.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
29. And that is all the more reason to strongly oppose this moronic proposal.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 03:14 PM
Jun 2012

Assuming this is not just your opinion. Starting a war between two nuclear armed countries, do you seriously think that if Pakistan is attacked in all-out war against them by the US, that they will not finally resort to using every available asset they have as they would have a right to do. Or at least we claim WE have the right to do.

Yes, let's cheer on the start of WW111 by all means.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
32. Pakistan is a lot of hot air.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 03:25 PM
Jun 2012

One sternly worded lecture and demands from Richard Armitage and Musharraf caved in, giving in to every demand without even a mild protest.

Pakistan's nuclear assets are also pumped up by Pakistan and China, the former for local consumption and the latter to prop up a client state against India. The reality is that Pakistan's military strength is laughable. For example, American navy seals could fly all the way across pakistan and kill its most prized asset, Osama bin Laden. Paksitan was clueless until Obama's news conference.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
34. Lots of 'opinions' in that comment. Not shared, btw, with those who actually rely on facts
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 04:39 PM
Jun 2012

Btw, Musharaff is no longer in a position of power in Pakistan not to mention the fact that he was a puppet of the neo-cons.

Opinions from someone with a clear dislike, maybe even hatred of a particular person or country or culture etc. are taken with that in mind.

Hopefully wiser heads in India will prevail.

Otoh it could all be a PR/Psyops attempt to bring Pakistan back into the fold as far as NOT objecting to having foreign drones invading its sovereign airspace, and to persuade it to continue to cooperate by allowing NATO to use it as a supply route. Not to mention NATO needs to replenish its troops as countries like France, under new leadership, will be removing their troops in accordance with its people's demands.

The American people want out of Afghanistan and we will work hard to make that happen.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
16. Stupid.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 08:18 AM
Jun 2012


And by the way, it's not for the US to invite other sovereign states to invade and occupy non-US territory.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
18. So now we know why Bush gave them preferred status and nukes way back when
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:06 AM
Jun 2012

So they would do our bidding.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
20. Cause if there's one thing the Pakistanis love more than Americans bombing
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:16 AM
Jun 2012

their citizens at random, it's the idea of India joining in on the war next door. What fucking moron made this decision?

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
26. betcha dollars to donuts
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 12:58 PM
Jun 2012

we will soon hear that "Al-kada" has suddenly moved into India and needs droning, where we will -once again-
kill the #2 Al-kada guy at an outdoor wedding or funeral.

tawadi

(2,110 posts)
31. Oh, yeah. Good luck with that
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 03:24 PM
Jun 2012


India is too smart for that. And in case nobody noticed they don't like to be pushed around, after hundreds of years of colonization.
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