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brooklynite

(94,624 posts)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:15 AM Feb 2016

Whitman scorches Christie over Trump, prefers Hillary

Source: Newark Star-Ledger

Gov. Chris Christie's endorsement of Donald Trump is giving many people in New Jersey indigestion, but none more than former Gov. Christie Whitman, a Republican who has watched in horror as her party drifted rightward for the last decade.

I have a full column on Christie's shameless stunt coming tomorrow, but I wanted to share Whitman's quotes right away.

First, she says she's planning to vote for Hillary Clinton if Trump gets the nod. She's keeping her options open, in case we find out something new and horrible about Hillary. But that's her plan now:

"You'll see a lot of Republicans do that," Whitman told me. "We don't want to. But I know I won't vote for Trump."


Read more: http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2016/02/whitman_scorches_christie_over_trump_prefers_hilla.html#incart_river_home



Needless to say, Whitman was one of the "moderate" Republicans who was completely silent on the conservative shift of her Party until she left office...
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Whitman scorches Christie over Trump, prefers Hillary (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2016 OP
Oh-k, Whitman was alright for a NJ GOP governor. OhZone Feb 2016 #1
Watched in horror? skepticscott Feb 2016 #2
Whitman falls more into the "big-business fellating assholes" wing of the party... Human101948 Feb 2016 #3
No one who has belonged to or supported the Republican Party skepticscott Feb 2016 #5
"She says she's planning to vote for Hillary Clinton if Trump gets the nod" freedom fighter jh Feb 2016 #4
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #6
I see a Trump-Christie ticket mdbl Feb 2016 #7
Not at all likely onenote Feb 2016 #20
Screw her. She was a turd . . . and the turd that replaced her is worse. Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #8
Her first turdly act was to borrow money from the state pension funds so that she could avoid Hoppy Feb 2016 #9
Whitman īs correct IMO. Trust Buster Feb 2016 #10
Which begs the question skepticscott Feb 2016 #11
I agree. It's hard for moderate Republicans to justify what they're seeing. Trust Buster Feb 2016 #12
Moderates? chapdrum Feb 2016 #15
There hasn't been any such thing as a "moderate Republican" for nearly a decade. Chakab Feb 2016 #17
That's an extreme position in and of itself. Trust Buster Feb 2016 #19
Aw come on, give her the benefit of the doubt - seriously - change for a lot Kashkakat v.2.0 Feb 2016 #13
"...who has watched in horror..." chapdrum Feb 2016 #14
Alright, thank you governor. Beacool Feb 2016 #16
Whitman should cut Gov. Christie some slack -- he's washed up, at the end of his rope, down to NCjack Feb 2016 #18
of course Whitman prefers Clinton- Whitman is Clinton Vote2016 Feb 2016 #21
Christie still wants to be POTUS Sinan Feb 2016 #22
New Jerseyans getting indigestion? Howzabout "flyover country"? DinahMoeHum Feb 2016 #23
No surprise that Whitman likes Hillary Reter Feb 2016 #24
K & R SunSeeker Feb 2016 #25
Whitman was one of Bush's worst appointments. She's infamous for lying about the air quality PoliticAverse Feb 2016 #26
Who the hell cares what Christine Whitman, LibDemAlways Feb 2016 #27
She orchestrated the largest property tax increases in history Depaysement Feb 2016 #28

OhZone

(3,212 posts)
1. Oh-k, Whitman was alright for a NJ GOP governor.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:28 AM
Feb 2016

She lost all her positives in my mind when she took orders from Dubya to cover up the 911 WTC air quality situation, as head of the EPA.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
2. Watched in horror?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:29 AM
Feb 2016

Oh, please. Nothing about the fundamental doctrines of the Republican Party has today has changed one bit from when Whitman was governor. They have been racist, bigoted, war-mongering, anti-union, anti-tax, anti-poor, anti-immigrant, anti-intellectual, anti-environment, big-business fellating assholes since Reagan. She was a willing part of all that, and is fully complicit in what the GOP has become. Fuck her.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
3. Whitman falls more into the "big-business fellating assholes" wing of the party...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:32 AM
Feb 2016

She's more of a Romneyesque, genteel one percent money grubber.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
5. No one who has belonged to or supported the Republican Party
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:38 AM
Feb 2016

in any way in the last 35 years deserves the label "genteel". As noted, all such are complicit in what the Republican Party is and does. "Scum" would be a more appropriate label.

freedom fighter jh

(1,782 posts)
4. "She says she's planning to vote for Hillary Clinton if Trump gets the nod"
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:33 AM
Feb 2016

One more condition before she can do that: Hillary will have to get the Democratic nomination. That is not assured.

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

onenote

(42,715 posts)
20. Not at all likely
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:47 PM
Feb 2016

Christie is not a second banana type. He wants to be prosecutor in chief. He's a lock for Attorney General in a Trump adminsitration with a option for SCOTUS justice if/when a vacancy arises.

But the good news is that there isn't going to be a Trump administration.

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
9. Her first turdly act was to borrow money from the state pension funds so that she could avoid
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:36 AM
Feb 2016

raising taxes. You see, Republicans win elections by not raising taxes. Of course, the bill has to be paid some day. But by that time, they are long gone.


Her second turdly act was to begin the practice of not funding the pensions. That brought us to the state's financial disaster we now experience.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
10. Whitman īs correct IMO.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:20 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary is perfectly positioned to benefit from moderate Republicans disaffected by the rise of Trump. The Republican's foolish rhetoric has created a Frankenstein that will swing the election to Hillary. This is lining up quite well.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
11. Which begs the question
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:48 PM
Feb 2016

of how many "moderates" there actually are who can look at themselves in the mirror every day and still be associated with the Republican Party. Who the fuck are these people, and exactly who were they going to vote for in the absence of Donald Trump?

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
17. There hasn't been any such thing as a "moderate Republican" for nearly a decade.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 03:43 PM
Feb 2016

The fact that Hillary appeals to anybody in the Republican establishment should give pause to anybody who earnestly believes that she's a real progressive.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
19. That's an extreme position in and of itself.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:20 PM
Feb 2016

Of course there is such a thing as a moderate Republican, your broad brush aside.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
13. Aw come on, give her the benefit of the doubt - seriously - change for a lot
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 01:48 PM
Feb 2016

of people happens when they have a "what side are you on" moment and see that maybe some things they used to believe are not accurate - Maybe its some personal experience that gets you to reassess, or maybe (as in this case) the behavior is just so over the top that a normal person cant make excuses anymore. Until then, you tend to be stuck in your same habitual thought patterns. Such is human nature.

When you have your Catholic, right to lifer, Rush & fox news listening Mom telling you that she cant tolerate Trump or ANY of them (as mine recently told me) you know somethings up - maybe the house of cards built on right wing propaganda is starting to crumble? That should be cause for celebration.

Besides, were gonna need a lot of crossover republican voters to make up for you lot who are going to throw a tantrum and stay home and not vote because your guy (or gal) didn't get the dem nomination. Only being partially facetious there.

 

chapdrum

(930 posts)
14. "...who has watched in horror..."
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 01:56 PM
Feb 2016

Really? (And notice, that statement is not attributed to her directly.)

She's one of them.

This is corporate mediaspeak, loud and f*cking clear.

Using the clown car "candidates" to make themselves look above it all.

Nothing could be further from the truth.



Beacool

(30,250 posts)
16. Alright, thank you governor.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 03:10 PM
Feb 2016

One Republican with common sense. I hope that more vote Republicans decide to vote for the Democratic nominee if Trump wins their nomination.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
18. Whitman should cut Gov. Christie some slack -- he's washed up, at the end of his rope, down to
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:11 PM
Feb 2016

his last sawbuck in New Jersey, and he has to get out of the state to stay alive. He needs a Federal position. Trump is in the best position to deliver something (e.g., V.P., cabinet member, director of RNC) to the governor. Whitman is so cold to be thinking of herself and the NJ GOP. /s/

Sinan

(15 posts)
22. Christie still wants to be POTUS
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 05:33 PM
Feb 2016

He is just doing this so Trump will pick him as VP. As long as he is still in the public eye, he can use his experience to run again and again until he wins or tires out. Expect Christie to be a continual candidate for the next 2-4 election cycles. As for Whitman, she is a moderate and her comments here reflect many moderate Republicans view of Trump. For those who hate Hillary, think about 4 seats on the SCOTUS and vote for who ever wins the Democratic nomination. This is no time to take your vote and throw it away in some silly protest vote.

DinahMoeHum

(21,797 posts)
23. New Jerseyans getting indigestion? Howzabout "flyover country"?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 06:56 PM
Feb 2016

Let's see how they like the prospect of a New Yawk cabal headed by the likes of Trump and Christie buying out their neighborhoods and places of employment.

Ain't the irony delicious??

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
26. Whitman was one of Bush's worst appointments. She's infamous for lying about the air quality
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 03:10 AM
Feb 2016

in lower manhattan after 9/11.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
27. Who the hell cares what Christine Whitman,
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 04:03 AM
Feb 2016

a has been Repuke hack, thinks? Quite a stretch to imagine that her opinion is going to sway anybody.

Depaysement

(1,835 posts)
28. She orchestrated the largest property tax increases in history
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:32 AM
Feb 2016

By cutting taxes on the wealthy and cutting aid to schools, forcing localities to slash school budgets and/or increase taxes.

Hillary can have her.

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