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brooklynite

(94,591 posts)
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:16 PM Feb 2016

Brian Sandoval, Republican governor of Nevada, is being vetted for Supreme Court vacancy

Source: Washington Post

Brian Sandoval, the centrist Republican governor of Nevada, is being vetted by the White House for a possible nomination to the Supreme Court, according to two people familiar with the process.

Sandoval is increasingly viewed by some key Democrats as perhaps the only nominee President Obama could select who would be able to break a Republican blockade in the Senate.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Tuesday pledged “no action” on any Supreme Court nomination before November’s election, saying the decision ought to be left to the next president.

The White House declined to comment Wednesday for this story. White House press secretary Josh Earnest has emphasized in recent days that the president has not arrived at a short list of potential nominees.


Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/02/24/brian-sandoval-republican-governor-of-nevada-is-being-vetted-for-supreme-court-vacancy/?tid=sm_tw
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Brian Sandoval, Republican governor of Nevada, is being vetted for Supreme Court vacancy (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2016 OP
Just for comparison in terms of moving the dial 6chars Feb 2016 #1
Bush 1 had control of the Senate at the time... brooklynite Feb 2016 #4
Bush I Never Had a Republican Senate OrwellwasRight Feb 2016 #46
I am, as of this moment, putting a serious curse on Turtle man. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2016 #2
I'll stick some pins in his voodoo doll, myself wordpix Feb 2016 #55
I don't blame you. And please include this laundromat vulture in your thoughts: forest444 Feb 2016 #61
Sandoval is not seen as labor-friendly tk2kewl Feb 2016 #3
there is a big difference... getagrip_already Feb 2016 #31
i don't disagree... tk2kewl Feb 2016 #32
Major mistake in even thinking of this Guy. Wellstone ruled Feb 2016 #34
thank you tk2kewl Feb 2016 #38
Despite what most think of Wellstone ruled Feb 2016 #42
thanks for your vetting, I hope Pres O listens wordpix Feb 2016 #56
As a life long Democrat, Wellstone ruled Feb 2016 #58
even if Sandoval is a "good" repug, he's still repug wordpix Feb 2016 #67
Living in Nevada one knows the real King Makers. Wellstone ruled Feb 2016 #69
That's the point. OrwellwasRight Feb 2016 #47
Ridiculous DarthDem Feb 2016 #5
It looks like a carefully considered way to put the Republicans in a bigger bind... Human101948 Feb 2016 #6
A futile mission vinny9698 Feb 2016 #7
Well Said n/t DarthDem Feb 2016 #9
Right about who they will appoint. If we have President tRump, AllyCat Feb 2016 #23
i think... getagrip_already Feb 2016 #33
You might want to look at Marbury v. Madison The Second Stone Feb 2016 #35
It makes Democrats look reasonable NobodyHere Feb 2016 #25
Yep, looks like a calculated leak (n/t) William Seger Feb 2016 #36
Only If They Obstruct RobinA Feb 2016 #51
It makes Obama look like he doesn't care about the voters who voted bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #53
Although the notion of appointing a Republican makes me want to puke, Vinca Feb 2016 #8
I agree bluestateguy Feb 2016 #11
Good point. And David Souter who went way off the rails for the righties. Vinca Feb 2016 #19
I guess that's good. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2016 #10
It's a ploy to make the GOP look silly lets all take a deep breath. iandhr Feb 2016 #12
I'd prefer Obama nominate someone like Kagan and Sotomayor Eric J in MN Feb 2016 #13
What if the President knows something we don't? Yo_Mama Feb 2016 #65
Seems like Obama can never find Dems he likes for positions Doctor_J Feb 2016 #14
Because no one candidate will agree with every single issue. He may be with us on a set of important Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #22
I'm not for supporting any righty, centrist or not ... aggiesal Feb 2016 #15
No one qualified to a SCOTUS Justice would allow themselves to be unconstitutionally seated. onenote Feb 2016 #21
SCOTUS recess appointments are far from unheard of and are not illegal. Kip Humphrey Feb 2016 #29
And if there was a recess then the President could fill the position (for a limited time) onenote Feb 2016 #30
now that is interesting. getagrip_already Feb 2016 #39
Given that the Court upheld the pro forma approach 9-0 onenote Feb 2016 #45
SC said 9-0 that it is constitutional in NLRB v Canning, decided 2014 Yo_Mama Feb 2016 #60
Be careful of that "advise and consent" verbiage in the Constitution AllyCat Feb 2016 #24
That means that the Senate has to consent for an SC justice to be appointed. Yo_Mama Feb 2016 #64
Sandoval is not a wing-nutty tea-party republican Quiet_Dem_Mom Feb 2016 #16
This is Why I Support Bernie elljay Feb 2016 #17
Forgot a link elljay Feb 2016 #18
We seem real good at caving in to the Republican temper tantrum royalty. AllyCat Feb 2016 #26
not we... getagrip_already Feb 2016 #40
Tell me how Bernie is going to get a liberal judge past a Republican senate. NobodyHere Feb 2016 #27
That's what we need, a Republican Gov. that has the support of the Republicans ladjf Feb 2016 #20
So elections DON'T have consequences... haikugal Feb 2016 #28
Michelle Alexander for Supreme Court Dems to Win Feb 2016 #37
There is no upside to this nominee, very bad strategy houston16revival Feb 2016 #41
bottom line, we need to take back the Senate wordpix Feb 2016 #68
No way. A losing move. JackRiddler Feb 2016 #43
Political Lesson Time for DUers on this thread Yavin4 Feb 2016 #44
And the nomination removes a Republican governor before the election. Yo_Mama Feb 2016 #52
Not only that but a potential future nominee for President Yavin4 Feb 2016 #57
All part of the plan.... FighttheFuture Feb 2016 #48
You know, if I were you, I wouldn't vote for him again... brooklynite Feb 2016 #49
As usual, voting for Obama was a vote for the lesser of the two evils... . FighttheFuture Feb 2016 #66
I truly believe your one sentence...re: the TPP. bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #54
That is clever - he was put forward by Reid and nominated by Bush, confirmed 89-0 Yo_Mama Feb 2016 #50
And Hillary would be Obama's third term? left-of-center2012 Feb 2016 #59
AHEM..... alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #62
Well, he meets two of my "wants" in a SC justice Retrograde Feb 2016 #63

6chars

(3,967 posts)
1. Just for comparison in terms of moving the dial
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:18 PM
Feb 2016

when Thurgood Marshall passed, Bush 1 appointed Clarence Thomas.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
2. I am, as of this moment, putting a serious curse on Turtle man.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:19 PM
Feb 2016

Mark this date.

The country cannot afford his type of thinking.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
3. Sandoval is not seen as labor-friendly
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:21 PM
Feb 2016

Last edited Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:04 PM - Edit history (1)

But nominating Sandoval would carry risks for Obama. Sandoval is aligned with Democrats on some key issues, including abortion rights and the environment. As governor, he has moved to implement the Affordable Care Act, and has said he considers same-sex marriage to be a settled issue.

But Sandoval is not seen as labor-friendly — potentially alienating a swath of the Democratic base. His legal credentials are also lacking compared to some of the other names under consideration who are mainly sitting federal judges.


Any idea about his positions on global trade and investment?
Any idea about his positions on corporate power/person-hood?
Any idea about his positions on government surveillance?

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
31. there is a big difference...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:21 PM
Feb 2016

between viewing something as a settled case and supporting the outcome. It's kind of a passive aggressive way of saying he can't change it so why fight it.

It would be a very risky thing to have a new challenge brought up. He could conceivably view that as fresh and vote how he feels, not say what he thinks he has to.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
34. Major mistake in even thinking of this Guy.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:27 PM
Feb 2016

Sandoval is so beholding to Corporate Interests,and we just seen our Solar Power gutted by this Guy. Our State is bonded to hell and back as a result of his Tea Party Friends and Supporters. What you read about his caring for the average Nevadian is pure poppy-cock. Yes we did get a watered down ACA,and that was so Adelson and Wynn did not have to supply benefits for their workers. Harry Reid was the main reason we have ACA through his jaw boning key Legislature People.

Sandoval is a empty suit and owes his butt to NV Energy and the Gaming Commission that is controlled by Sheldon Adelson.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
42. Despite what most think of
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:54 PM
Feb 2016

Harry Reid,the guy has always back Sandoval. Harry is a Dino,watched him take out a Person running for Congress because he did not like him. Made sure he did not get funding for his campaign. But hey,another Mormon Tea Bagger captured the seat.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
56. thanks for your vetting, I hope Pres O listens
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:03 PM
Feb 2016

This is a terrible nominee at a time when we need someone who's incorruptible.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
58. As a life long Democrat,
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:46 PM
Feb 2016

and I am sure there are others maybe millions,who are insulted by Sandoval even being suggested as a nominee. And as a secondary item,noticed Reid officially announced his support of Clinton. Enough of this third way garbage.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
67. even if Sandoval is a "good" repug, he's still repug
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 12:26 PM
Feb 2016

sorry but I just don't go for anyone representing the party of the uber-rich.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
69. Living in Nevada one knows the real King Makers.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:48 PM
Feb 2016

Sheldon Adelson and Steve Wynn as well as a fellow by the name of Katz,these are the money Guys. Harry Reid through his so called operatives,have pretty much determined the direction of State Politics. This is a Tourism Based Economy State,and with all the money floating around via the Casino's,in there lies the problems. State Gambling Commission is the most powerful state institution,and that is Harry Reids spring board as past Commission Head,and this Commission today is controlled by Adelson via appointments of his Cronies. And Sandoval appointed these people. In the 2014 cycle of Elections,we had Sandoval backing Tea Party People over rank and file GOP candidates. Harry Reid would not endorse several Progressive Democratic candidates,and has been accused of taking out certain ones thus leaving races unopposed . BTW,Reid considers Sandoval his close personal friend,the more one looks at Democratic Party players in Nevada,you just shake your head. Unbelievable,third way all the way.

OrwellwasRight

(5,170 posts)
47. That's the point.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:30 PM
Feb 2016

The Democratic Party, at the Presidential Level, cares about social issues, not so much about economic ones. TPP, anyone? Why would he nominate a pro-labor Justice when he hasn't done much else pro-labor?

So they'll nominate a pro-choice person and pretend it is a victory for "ordinary Americans."

It's "What's the Matter with Kansas" times a billion these days (Bernie excepted). And, no this doesn't apply to the large majority of House Dems who care and the small minority of Senate Dems who care.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
6. It looks like a carefully considered way to put the Republicans in a bigger bind...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:23 PM
Feb 2016

But the courting of Sandoval, if you can call it that, has been a far more subtle affair for the GOP presidential candidates. He is in the unenviable position of being seen as an ideological apostate who simultaneously boasts approval ratings in the high-to-mid 60s. When the general election comes, Sandoval’s endorsement will be desperately needed; Democrats privately fear he could be a potent weapon to drive Latino and Hispanic turnout. But in an unpredictable and highly partisan GOP caucus, with many conservative Republicans alleging betrayal by Sandoval over his historic tax hike and threatening revolt, the endorsement of the Nevada governor is seen as more of a headache than a helpmate. And no one is quite sure what to do about him.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/02/nevada-primary-brian-sandoval-213668#ixzz416wfR4IT

vinny9698

(1,016 posts)
7. A futile mission
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:26 PM
Feb 2016

The GOP will only approve another Scalia clone.
Why bother to push trough a Scalia light?
Go for a liberal judge and then have him approved when the Senate turns Democratic.
The odds are good for a Democratic senate majority.
If you appoint a young person, they will have profound power, just like Scalia did.,

AllyCat

(16,189 posts)
23. Right about who they will appoint. If we have President tRump,
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:58 PM
Feb 2016

is a new POTUS able to withdraw a nominee made by a predecessor? Really hope we flip the Senate. Doing our part here in Wisco.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
33. i think...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:24 PM
Feb 2016

nominations only last to the end of the congress they were submitted in. New congress, new nomination. Either way, a new president wouldn't be bound to the appointment of a predecessor. All the senate has to do is move one ahead of the other.

RobinA

(9,893 posts)
51. Only If They Obstruct
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:45 PM
Feb 2016

If they don't, we just three dimensional chessed ourselves right off the game board.

Vinca

(50,276 posts)
8. Although the notion of appointing a Republican makes me want to puke,
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:27 PM
Feb 2016

you'd have to look far and wide for find a candidate more odious than Scalia was.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
11. I agree
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:33 PM
Feb 2016

Let's recall though that Earl Warren, William Brennan and Harry Blackmun and John Paul Stevens were all Republican appointees.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
13. I'd prefer Obama nominate someone like Kagan and Sotomayor
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:33 PM
Feb 2016

...and get Democrats fired up to vote out Republicans if they don't confirm.

Republicans are already fired up from 8 years of a Democratic president, and so I'm not worried about a liberal nominee firing them up.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
65. What if the President knows something we don't?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:57 PM
Feb 2016

For example, suppose he has unofficially heard that Ginsburg or Kennedy wants to retire?

In that case, if he sends them one they do confirm for this opening, then they are very badly positioned to stymie the next nominee. They've already broken their own strike!

Kennedy and Scalia were almost the same age - pushing 80. Ginsburg is 82.

If no appointment is made this year, then the next president will almost certainly have three appointments. If you KNEW the next president would be Clinton or Sanders, then maybe it would be best to let it ride (from a liberal POV).

But I doubt anyone knows that. Elections are a crapshoot, and this one is clearly quite different from the average.

Think about it as a grid of possibilities. Consider 50-50 odds for Dem/Rep president, and 50-50 odds for Senate controlled Dem or Rep:

The we get the following possibilities President/Senate:

Current Dem/Rep 1 or 2 openings. (Status Quo)


Future Dem/Dem: 2 or 3 openings.(Better for liberals)

Future Dem/Rep: 2 or 3 openings. (Same for liberals)

Future Rep/Dem: 2 or 3 openings. (Worse for Liberals)

Future Rep/Rep: 2 or 3 openings. (Disaster for Liberals)

As a poker hand, the president would be wise to try to get a moderate candidate through the process. Kennedy is a swing and Ginsburg is a liberal. If he gets a moderate through, if things go Dem then two liberal-leanings will be next appointed. If things are the same, the odds don't change. If a Republican president is chosen, then he's much better off getting a moderate candidate on now.

If he breaks the blockade and Ginsburg decides to resign now, then obviously it would tend to create a liberal-leaning court.

There is only a 1 in 4 chance of having a better shot at it next year. That may be hard to accept, but it is true. It is likely that the Republicans will lose seats in the Senate, but even if they take it, the Dems aren't going to have much of a majority. 50 or 51, at best. If Sanders gets the nomination that takes him out of the Senate along with Reid. I assume he will be succeeded by a Democrat, but power balances in the Senate will be close at best.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
14. Seems like Obama can never find Dems he likes for positions
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:35 PM
Feb 2016

Like 70 million people voted for him, but he would like a Bushie/Romney supporter on the court. I wonder why that is.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
22. Because no one candidate will agree with every single issue. He may be with us on a set of important
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:51 PM
Feb 2016

issues, but will break on other issues. If this is a strategic move, I think it's brilliant. It gets Hispanics motivated because Sandoval is incredibly popular. And it makes Republicans look bad to reject a Republican and a Latino. We get someone who supports reproductive rights and who is pro-LGBT. We get someone who won't gut the ACA and is fairly good on environmental issues.

I would prefer that he choose a qualified black woman, but this is a good pick.

aggiesal

(8,916 posts)
15. I'm not for supporting any righty, centrist or not ...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:35 PM
Feb 2016

I say that the Senate is suppose to "Advice and Consent".

If they refuse to do their duty, then they've waived their right
to "Advice and Consent", and Obama should just sit whatever
justice he nominates.

The more liberal the better.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
21. No one qualified to a SCOTUS Justice would allow themselves to be unconstitutionally seated.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:50 PM
Feb 2016

Seriously. No one.

As a matter of statutory law, a SCOTUS justice does not begin to serve until he or she has received a signed "commission" from the President, to which the Secretary of State affixes the seal of the United States. For the president to sign a commission for someone whose position requires Senate confirmation without that person having received confirmation, would be an illegal act by the President.

Not going to happen.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
30. And if there was a recess then the President could fill the position (for a limited time)
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:17 PM
Feb 2016

But there is not, nor has there been, a recess during which a successor to Scalia can be commissioned. Nor will there be such a recess in the future, based on the current practice of the Senate not to recess if the President is of a different party than the majority in the Senate.

So, not really on point.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
39. now that is interesting.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:35 PM
Feb 2016

because if a federal court rules that the current practice of "pro forma" hearings which serve no purpose other than to deny a recess is unconstitutional, the SC would have to overturn it. But wait, in a 4-4 deadlock they couldn't.

Either the senate would have to do real work during breaks, with a quorum of senators on hand, or it would be a recess.

Still not going to happen, but if the tables were reversed you know the heritage foundation or judicial watch would be moving a case forward in a friendly court to test it.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
45. Given that the Court upheld the pro forma approach 9-0
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:04 PM
Feb 2016

I don't think there's any chance whatsoever that four of those justices are going to suddenly reach a different conclusion, to say nothing of the fact that there is little chance that a lower court would ignore a recent 9-0 decision and further to say nothing of the fact that there is no case in the pipeline and thus no chance for a lower court, let alone the Supreme Court, to be presented with the question between now and the end of the Obama presidency.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
60. SC said 9-0 that it is constitutional in NLRB v Canning, decided 2014
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:00 PM
Feb 2016

Supreme Court decisions have consequences.

Since 8 of the 9 are still on the SC, this approach is DOA.

https://www.oyez.org/cases/2013/12-1281

AllyCat

(16,189 posts)
24. Be careful of that "advise and consent" verbiage in the Constitution
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:01 PM
Feb 2016

I have been roundly criticized by other posters on this board that I just don't understand what that means and "didn't learn anything in school".

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
64. That means that the Senate has to consent for an SC justice to be appointed.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:15 PM
Feb 2016

It does not mean that the Senate has to agree to whatever candidate the president chooses. Please, don't blame the President for the Constitution.

He should send them a nomination. Then the pressure switches to the Senate, because the members of the public that are paying attention probably won't like the Senate refusing to act.

But they could do their thing, slowly, solemnly go through the motions, and then reject the nomination. Then it would start all over. Either way, the Senate does have the constitutional power to run out the clock.

This is, constitutionally speaking, a split power. There are quite a few, and the Supreme Court has generally ruled for Congress when split powers cases have been heard.

Justice Jackson's concurrence in Youngstown is classically cited:
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/343/579/case.html#634

The actual art of governing under our Constitution does not, and cannot, conform to judicial definitions of the power of any of its branches based on isolated clauses, or even single Articles torn from context. While the Constitution diffuses power the better to secure liberty, it also contemplates that practice will integrate the dispersed powers into a workable government. It enjoins upon its branches separateness but interdependence, autonomy but reciprocity. Presidential powers are not fixed but fluctuate depending upon their disjunction or conjunction with those of Congress. We may well begin by a somewhat over-simplified grouping of practical situations in which a President may doubt, or others may challenge, his powers, and by distinguishing roughly the legal consequences of this factor of relativity.

1. When the President acts pursuant to an express or implied authorization of Congress, his authority is at its maximum, for it includes all that he possesses in his own right plus all that Congress can delegate. [Footnote 4/2] In these circumstances and in these only, may he be said (for what it may be worth) to personify the federal sovereignty. If his act is held unconstitutional under these circumstances, it usually means that the Federal Government, as an undivided whole, lacks power. A seizure executed by the President pursuant to an Act of Congress would be supported by the strongest of presumptions and the widest latitude of judicial interpretation, and the burden of persuasion would rest heavily upon any who might attack it.

2. When the President acts in absence of either a congressional grant or denial of authority, he can only rely upon his own independent powers, but there is a zone of twilight in which he and Congress may have concurrent authority, or in which its distribution is uncertain. Therefore, congressional inertia, indifference or quiescence may sometimes, at least, as a practical matter, enable, if not invite, measures on independent presidential responsibility. In this area, any actual test of power is likely to depend on the imperatives of events and contemporary imponderables, rather than on abstract theories of law. [Footnote 4/3]

3. When the President takes measures incompatible with the expressed or implied will of Congress, his power is at its lowest ebb, for then he can rely only upon his own constitutional powers minus any constitutional powers of Congress over the matter. Courts can sustain exclusive presidential control in such a case only by disabling the Congress from acting upon the subject. [Footnote 4/4] Presidential claim to a power at once so conclusive and preclusive must be scrutinized with caution, for what is at stake is the equilibrium established by our constitutional system.


In this case, the Constitution is very explicit. The President may only appoint an SC justice with the consent of Congress, barring a recess appointment, which would only last until January in any case. And in 2014, in deciding NLRB v Canning, by 9-0 the sitting justices said that if Congress wants to stay in session it can, and the President may not decide they are in recess if they say they are not.

Quiet_Dem_Mom

(599 posts)
16. Sandoval is not a wing-nutty tea-party republican
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:36 PM
Feb 2016

I seriously doubt he'd get many confirms. And he's already stated he's not interested in the SC.

The tea-party no-tax types aren't a fan of Sandoval. Here's a Politico article, "Meet Brian Sandoval, Nevada’s Party Pooper"

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/02/nevada-primary-brian-sandoval-213668

elljay

(1,178 posts)
17. This is Why I Support Bernie
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:40 PM
Feb 2016

I am so TIRED of Democrats bending to the will of the Republicans! We get 30 years of a Republican on the court because Obama will not fight back with every tool he has.

Here is a sampling of Sandoval's "centrist" positions:

Civil unions but no gay marriage
Supports charter schools
Supports Keystone Pipeline
Opposes restrictions on right to bear arms
EPA regulations are too restrictive
http://www.ontheissues.org/Brian_Sandoval.htm

Clive Bundy supporter
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/07/nevada-officials-blast-feds-over-treatment-cattle-rancher-cliven-bundy.html

50% rating from NARAL
https://votesmart.org/interest-group/1016/rating/6839#.Vs33feZOLjU

Supports "reform" of collective bargaining
[link:http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2015/03/05/nevada-gops-union-reforms-designed-weaken-workers-rights/|

This is NOT the kind of justice we need or want. We voted for Obama to be a Democrat (whatever that means nowadays). To appoint a Republican to the position is unacceptable.

AllyCat

(16,189 posts)
26. We seem real good at caving in to the Republican temper tantrum royalty.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:03 PM
Feb 2016

I agree with you. This is not a good choice for us and I'm tired of the multi-dimensional chess game.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
40. not we...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:40 PM
Feb 2016

obama. He spent 6 years doing just that. He hasn't quite made up for it, and won't by appointing a conservative.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
20. That's what we need, a Republican Gov. that has the support of the Republicans
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:44 PM
Feb 2016

in the Senate. Well, it wouldn't be the first time Obama caved to the Pubs.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
28. So elections DON'T have consequences...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:07 PM
Feb 2016

The right can lose the whitehouse and still dictate to everyone. Amazing.

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
37. Michelle Alexander for Supreme Court
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:31 PM
Feb 2016

She would be a Thurgood Marshall for the 21st Century. Highly qualified, a law professor and author of 'The New Jim Crow.'

Scalia was approved 98-0. Damn it all, Democrats should FIGHT for the same treatment of our preferred nominee. Not capitulate without a vote.

houston16revival

(953 posts)
41. There is no upside to this nominee, very bad strategy
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:42 PM
Feb 2016

If McConnell stalls, and he will, the nominee will sit, then

If Democrats take the Presidency and the Senate, McConnell will move the nomination
because he knows he will get worse in January

So Obama will have confirmed a dud while we could have had a liberal

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
43. No way. A losing move.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:57 PM
Feb 2016

They'll "cave" and approve. So reasonable! Hooray!

Bullshit!

Let them hold up an appointment until November, if they dare. Make that a prime issue in this election. It will be 100% on them. Total nonsense to do anything else. He's the president, he picks the one he wants, and the Senate decides what to do with it. That's how it works.

Yavin4

(35,441 posts)
44. Political Lesson Time for DUers on this thread
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:58 PM
Feb 2016

If Obama nominates Sandoval, then one of three outcomes is possible:

1. The Republicans follow through with their threat to deny him a hearing which then alienates the Latino vote, alienates the people of Nevada, a swing state, and causes more dissention within the Republican party.

2. The Republicans allow a hearing, but vote him down, which then alienates the Latino vote, alienates the people of Nevada, a swing state, and causes more dissention within the Republican party.

3. The Republicans allow a hearing and approve him, which then pisses off Trump, and his red-meat base supporters.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
52. And the nomination removes a Republican governor before the election.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:49 PM
Feb 2016

It is a very, very clever move.

Yavin4

(35,441 posts)
57. Not only that but a potential future nominee for President
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:29 PM
Feb 2016

Similar to making Jon Huntsman an ambassador to China.

 

FighttheFuture

(1,313 posts)
48. All part of the plan....
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:34 PM
Feb 2016

Obama (R, 1980's) will offer up a Kennedy/Roberts clone that the Dems will be okay with, and R's would be happy with privately, but will gnash their teeth about publicly, then ultimately vote in. In turn he will get promises from them to pass his TPP during the lame duck session. This will insure Obama (R, 1980's) will have his name carved in the Hall of Heroes of der Fatherland. A real win-win, except for the 99% (i.e. all of us).

There's not much more he would do. He could nominate someone more liberal and shove it down their throats, make them look like the obstructionists assholes they are all the way to the elections, and take out a few. But that's not in "Mr. Bipartisan's" playbook and doesn't serve him, personally to cement his legacy and ticket to the club.

 

FighttheFuture

(1,313 posts)
66. As usual, voting for Obama was a vote for the lesser of the two evils... .
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:37 PM
Feb 2016

Still, it is tiring voting for Republicans from the 80's and 90's. It would be better if we had Democrats from that time, or before. As Republicans go even more crazy rightward, the Democrats have even more room to shift rightward and still appear reasonable, if you ignore the past. All part of the plan.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
54. I truly believe your one sentence...re: the TPP.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:52 PM
Feb 2016

That is what I thought when I heard about this. That Obama wants the TPP passed so badly (doesn't matter what his voters want) that he would appoint this guy to the SC.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
50. That is clever - he was put forward by Reid and nominated by Bush, confirmed 89-0
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:45 PM
Feb 2016

as a United States District Court judge.

It would be hard to find a better consensus candidate.

But was he a good judge?

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
59. And Hillary would be Obama's third term?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:49 PM
Feb 2016

Why have a moderate right Democratic President if we get GOP judges?

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
63. Well, he meets two of my "wants" in a SC justice
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:08 PM
Feb 2016

He's from west of the Mississippi and not from Harvard. OTOH, he is a Republican (and I'm old enough to remember when they were reasonable). I'd rather he get the appointment now than wait for Trump or Rubio to name someone.

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