ISIS 'beheads teenage boys for listening to pop music and missing Friday prayers'

[MariaThinks]

Source: Times of India

The ISIS jihadist group has reportedly beheaded a teenage boy for listening to pop music and shot dead two others for missing Friday prayers, as part of a crackdown on personal freedoms in the group's Iraqi stronghold of Mosul.

The incidents, reported by Kurdish media, come with enemy forces lined up within miles of Mosul and with the group having suffered repeated military setbacks across Iraq.

According to ARA News, a 15-year-old boy named Ayham Hussein was caught during a patrol by Isis fighters, listening to music in his father's grocery store.

A spokesman for the Kurdish Nineveh media center was quoted by ARA News as saying the boy was listening to "Western music". "He was referred to the Sharia Court, which issued a decision to execute him."

The boy was reportedly publicly beheaded, before his body was handed to his family on Tuesday evening.

Read more: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/ISIS-beheads-teenage-boys-for-listening-to-pop-music-and-missing-Friday-prayers/articleshow/51051116.cms

[iandhr]

1. These people are POS's that need to be wiped off the face of the earth.

[tabasco]

60. Well said!

Couldn't agree more.

[840high]

70. Yes.

[Ex Lurker]

2. Like the roving SS death squads looking for "traitors" as Germany collapsed around them NT

[guillaumeb]

3. Thanks George W. Bush for invading Iraq and destroying the state so ISIS could arise.

Thanks Barack Obama for invading Libya by air and destroying the state so ISIS could arise there also.

Winning hearts and minds is a bipartisan goal.

[leftynyc]

7. Neither Bush or Obama

FORCED these animals to behave like animals. Their actions destablized countries that obviously do better under brutal dictators (think about that for a second) but nothing forced these barbarians to be religious freaks other than their own minds. I know you like to blame the west for all the worlds ills and heaven knows bush was a disaster but your insistence on treating them like innocent children who either didn't know any better or simply couldn't help themselves from being jihadi assholes is pathetic and insulting.

[iandhr]

9. +1

This is an internet comment section. How do have the nerve to bring reason and logic here?

[leftynyc]

10. I will fight that bullshit

all day, every day until my fingers fall off. Once you don't give a crap about being called a hater and an islamophobe for writing the truth, it's not really that hard.

[iandhr]

12. To use a British expression

Spot on

[guillaumeb]

17. What is truth?

Iraq and Libya were destroyed by the US. The destruction was more complete in Iraq. Syria is similarly being destroyed. A group effort this time. To summarize:
1) Destroy a country, committing war crimes in the process.
2) Call it defending democracy, or spreading democracy, or some such nonsense.
3) Watch the people try to recover, even as some criminal types engage in criminal behavior.
4) Deplore the criminal behavior by these savages without ever admitting what precipitated the collapse and subsequent behavior.
5) Wonder why these people, generally non-white, cannot behave as we do.

[leftynyc]

22. Are you seriously claiming

that non-whites don't have a choice rather than behave like the animals of isis do unless they're under the boot of a brutal dictator? Because that's EXACTLY what it sounds like. It also may occur to you that they're mostly not killing Americans or Europeans - they're killing fellow Muslims for not believing as they do which is hardly the fault of the west. And you continue to defend it by blaming the west. Fucking pathetic. How are you not embarrassed by this nonsense?

[guillaumeb]

25. I would suggest a carefull rereading of what I wrote.

Have you forgotten who started the most recent wars in Iraq, and Iran, and Libya, and Yemen, and Afghanistan?

Closing your eyes to reality does not change the reality.

[Politicalboi]

31. They haven't forgotten

They just support someone who voted for it.

I am blocked by you and the whole Hillary Bubble. I am not excusing violent behavior. People are animals. Like those assholes that killed that baby Dolphin yesterday. But these animals wouldn't have such power if the war didn't happen.

[guillaumeb]

33. Very harsh, but sometimes life is like that. eom

[Politicalboi]

38. I see no other reason to ignore the facts

The illegal war lead us to ISIS. Bernie was on the right side of history as was Obama.

[leftynyc]

36. LOL

And MORE complete bullshit. You think if I was supporting Bernie (who I have no beef with, I just think Hillary would make a better candidate so you can keep your primary war bullshit away from me) I would all of a sudden think isis is nothing but misunderstood little darlings who simply cannot help themselves from being brutal animals. That they kill their own people for not believing the way they do is fucking normal behavior? Are you TRYING to make the left look like complete imbeciles by placing none of the blame for animals behaving like animals on the fucking animals themselves?

[awoke_in_2003]

42. +1...

These people are animals, plain and simple. Did toppling Hussein speed up their ascendency? I think so, but he wasn't going to live forever.

[guillaumeb]

47. ISIS is a group of brutal animals.

So was Pol Pot in Cambodia. Remember the genocide?
So was the Taliban in Afghanistan.


Does the US bear any responsibility for destroying the various states in which these animals arose? And if so, does the US bear any responsibility for leaving many weapons there for these animals to use?

By the way, Saudi Arabia, a favored US client, beheads many people every year. Any plans for a post about Saudi Arabia?

[leftynyc]

64. The day we cut ties

To the house of saud cant come soon enough for me and wherever did you get the idea I had positive feelings for the Saudis. Or are you doing more deflection? Yes, we do have some responsibility for those countries being a mess but I find it entirely depressing that it appears the only choices for Muslim countries in the Mid East are brutal dictatorships or religious freaks. The Arab Spring brought about isis just as much as we did. Just like children have to stop blaming their parents for their lives at some point, so do these Muslims. We fought for our freedom and they will have to do the same. The conditions for women are INTOLERABLE for for women there.

[guillaumeb]

69. I asked about Saudi Arabia because I have seen nothing recently about the Saudis.

And nothing linking Wahhabism, a Saudi specialty, to the various fundamentalist, violent Islamic groups. I make no claim that you support Saudi Arabia.

But I have seen a number of posts claiming that Islam=violence toward women, or Islam=terror, or the supposed incompatibility of Islam with values of tolerance.
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In Iran in 1953, a democratically elected, secular President, Mohammed Mossadegh, was deposed by a CIA sponsored coup that brought in Reza Pahlavi. Pahlavi proceeded to install a monarchy that, while claiming western values, showed no tolerance for dissent. Mossadegh's crime? He wanted to nationalize the oil companies and use the money for infrastructure.

Pahlevi was followed by the Ayatollah Khomeini, a fundamentalist dictator. So US interference replaced a democratically elected leader with, ultimately, a religious dictator.

Egypt has been a US client state since the time of Anwar Sadat. No democracy there.

When you said:"I find it entirely depressing that it appears the only choices for Muslim countries in the Mid East are brutal dictatorships or religious freaks" I would agree that many times, most times, that seems to be the result. But the US has always been willing to work with dictators if it fits the needs of power politics. How much of that is the fault of the US and Europe I cannot say. But maybe if the US would actually stop interfering in the internal affairs of other countries the US could stop wasting trillions on war and actually rebuild this country.

[leftynyc]

71. It would be nice

If once, just once, you could comment on one of these stories without making excuses for monsters. I haven't read every comment but in my conversation just with you, you have yet to write one word about what happenened to this boy...you went right to blaming the west. I honestly think that is something you should think about.

[MariaThinks]

80. tha says it all doesn't it?

you can't hide the complete disregard for the innocent who was murdered, just an attempt to point blame elsewhere. Most of us on this board have always been against the war in Iraq. We spoke out, wrote all over the Internet, and to newspapers about the risks we feared - and we were right - it was stupid.

But let's not pretend that we caused the brutality. That is done by a part of islam - how large it is can be debated - but it is certainly doing a lot of damage around the world.

Other examples:

- Christians are killed in Pakistan by muslims
- Saddam invaded Kuwait. The muslim countries ran to us for help (including Saudi Arabia)
- Girls and stoned to death in muslim countries for even talking to a boy that is not a relative
- Underage girls are married off to men who are many multiples their age.
- Saudi Arabia is playing a lead role in attacks against yemen

- as for 911, I don't remember that there was any pertinent American invasion of any muslim country at that time. It was an attack of hatred. And if it was because Americans are supposedly on Arab land - why aren't all arabs only on that land? Why are they living in other countries?

[deathrind]

76. / This.

We enabled these people to come into power and do what they are doing.

The really scary reality here is if/when ISIS is wiped out...what comes next? Who's to say the next group is not as bad or worse. It certainly is not going to be the democracy that was supposed to spring up once the evil Saddam/Gaddafi were gone. The only way to ensure that does not happen is if we have a permanent footprint (troops on the ground for 20/30/40/50 years there) and that is not going to happen.

[leftynyc]

43. No - I haven't forgotten

What that has to do with this boy wanting to listen to music and you making excuses for those who cut his head off is completely beyond me. I think your excuse making for isis by blaming the west when they do heinous crap is pathetically disgusting but knock yourself out. I'll fight you on it all day every day. And I've got a flash for you - SO WOULD BERNIE.

[MariaThinks]

79. saddam hussein killed 50000+ Kurds without involvement from the west

Pakistan supports terrorists.

Libyan dictators were overthrown by their own people. Our involvement was to stop the dictator from slaughtering entire villages.

Russia invaded afganistan. We supported the mujahedeen. That turned into the Taliban.

Look at the reality - truly. How many innocent people are being murdered in the name of islam all over the world? Why is it that the more devout muslims get, the higher the chances of radicalism. What are they being taught?

[guillaumeb]

84. Hussein killed the Kurds because the West took a hands off approach.

Pakistan supports terrorists, yes, but the US also supports terrorists, as you indicate in your sentence about Afghanistan.

Gadhaffi was overthrown because the US sided with the Libyan terrorists, the same terrorists who have now embraced ISIS.

How many innocents have been murdered in the name of democracy all over the world? Why is it that the more money the US devotes to its war machine, the more people are killed?

[MariaThinks]

85. you don't want the west involved, but then you say that hussein killed the kurds

because we were not involved? Should we have been involved? how?

The people in Libya started the overthrow, the Gadhaffi regime was about to slaughter villages - that's when we got involved. Should we have stayed out of it? that's what we did when the kurds were slaughtered (under Reagan). Which is it - get involved or not.

Democracy has come at a price when tyrants are overthrown. Are you saying that radical islam is worthy of the same sacrifice? We want democracy around the world. Are you saying the parallel for radical islam also applies?

[guillaumeb]

86. What I am saying is that the US has no right to decide for the world.

The US involves itself in nearly every local situation all over the world. Right now, the US is supporting Syrian Kurds with arms and money even as US ally Turkey is bombing those same Kurds.

The US claimed to support the Kurds while Saddam Hussein was leader, but ignored the situation when Hussein bombed the Kurds because US strategic objectives had changed.

Do you feel that the US has the right to interfere in the affairs of other countries, even including assassinating or overthrowing elected leaders?

[MariaThinks]

87. there is a huge difference between helping or supporting countries and assassinating leaders

no to assassinating leaders.

yes to supporting democracries

[guillaumeb]

88. Define help and support.

The CIA engineered a coup in 1953 to remove the democratically elected leader of Iran and replace him with the Shah. The reason was that Mossadegh, the elected leader, wanted to nationalize the oil companies and keep the profits for infrastructure improvements. Was this help, or direct interference?

The US, again via the CIA, supported General Augusto Pinochet when he deposed and killed Salvador Allende, the elected President of Chile. Then Sec. of State Kissinger said the people would not be allowed to make the wrong choices. Was this help, or direct interference?

I could go on about Haiti, Nicaragua, Honduras, Vietnam, the Philippines, Greece, and a long list of other countries but the point is that the US does not help, it interferes, and it interferes for reasons of power.

[Ilsa]

35. I agree with you in principle, but this

outcome was known to be a possible result for toppling those dictatorships. "Who would we replace Hussein with?" was a policy question in 1991 in the decision to not go into Baghdad. It was a big risk to take.

But I agree: this deplorable shit is still on them, not us. I hope they die in tremendous pain.

That poor boy and his family.

[leftynyc]

41. Agree completely

If nothing else has been learned we've learned that you can't waltz into a country where you don't understand the culture and expect it turn into what you want it to. And we can discuss the foreign policy folly whenever you wish. THIS thread is about a poor kid who wanted to listen to music and I wont stand by while people supposedly on my side of the aisle make fucking excuses for those who cut off his head.

[Ilsa]

48. You said it!

I think we needed it just a little fine-tuned. Hell, maybe I made it worse.

Bush was such a god-awful leader and wreckless human being. But he wasn't the center of the universe -- not everything can be blamed on him. ISIS owns this shit.

[get the red out]

53. Absolutely!

And they are nothing but barbarians. I don't want to insult actual animals by calling them ANIMALS. Vermin perhaps.

I am also tired of being told to see these monsters as a blank slate before the Iraq war. They have the same reasoning capabilities of any other people.

[leftynyc]

67. You would think

people would realize how patronizing they sound blaming the west for religious freaks. Like they have no choice but behaving like monsters because the west is using mind control. It's maddening. You're absolutely right about calling them animals...animals don't kill for kicks.

[Botany]

59. R you kidding me?

After we invaded Iraq Ambassador Bremer sent the Iraqi Army (mostly Sunni)
home w/their weapons and a large section of those now unemployeed started
al Qaeda in Iraq (al Qaeda was not in any sction of Iraq under Saddam's control
..... he used to shoot al Qaeda people on the spot) and al Qaeda in Iraq then
morphed into ISIS.

BTW Tony Blair now admits that the Iraqi war produced ISIS.

[leftynyc]

66. Bully for blair

And I agree but when do we get to blame the animals for behaving like animals? How many do they have to kill? How many women have to be made into virtual slaves before we can blame the men and religious freaks for enslaving them? When do we get to admit sharia law SUCKS and has no place in civilized society? Like people in their 30s can't blame their parents for their lives forever, we have to stop treating these people like children who....what. Can't help themselves from this behavior?

[Stargleamer]

72. at times like these, mutual blame seems to be the best course possible

but this is so often the case.

we blame and imprison the offender who sexually abuses children, while knowing that his background (having often been sexually abused himself) is a contributing factor in the abuse. The serial killer Carl Panzram became a monster, after suffering years of vicious abuse. A society-created monster.

I think LBJ bears some responsibility for what Lt. Calley and his men did at My Lai (because morality often breaks down in times of war) but ultimately the cruelty of Calley and his men are on them. I note that Hugh Thompson didn't start killing the Vietnamese there.

We just have to blame those who hurt, but also the conditions that brought about them becoming those who hurt. And no, I cannot even come up with who's mostly to blame; it might not be that relevant.

All this is from someone who thinks ISIS makes the Nazis look like pikers when it comes to approximating pure evil. Yes, i think the Iraqi War was just another politically-motivated disaster committed by the WPE, but mainly because of the Iraqis (and Americans) killed, not because it destabilized the region.

[leftynyc]

77. That's an excellent point

Responsibility. Nobody here would let a serial killer off the hook because of their background. But it seems every day there are excuses for the behavior of Isis.

[Botany]

81. I hope that those ISIS bastards are killed by the truckload but again ....

.... they would not be the problem that they are now if we hadn't invaded
Iraq. If you remember the French told us that by invading Iraq we could
destabilize the entire area and that is what happened.

BTW nice straw man arguement about 30 year old people blaming their
parents for their problems.

[MariaThinks]

78. agreed

[Warren Stupidity]

82. Both administrations pander to Sunni fundamentalism.

Having broken the secular Iraqi government, and faced with the prospect of Shiite regional dominance the Bush administration empowered Sunni militias in Iraq.

The Obama administration seeing an opportunity to complete the PNAC mission of running the table - removing all the once Soviet aligned regimes from the Cold War era - funded and supplied Sunni fundamentalist militias in Syria.

Those two forces - augmented by our policies - became the Petri dish from which ISIS emerged.

Open your eyes.

[rocktivity]

13. Did ISIS arise

or are they re-branded Al-Qaeda?


rocktivity

[guillaumeb]

18. A good question. And the US, after destroying a country, will never admit that it bears

the blame for the destruction and subsequent chaos.

[bluestateguy]

61. Blame America First garbage

And I opposed both those wars from the start, so I don't want to hear it.

[guillaumeb]

68. Not blame America first anything.

Simply historical fact.

[Joanie Baloney]

4. Dad?

Is that you???

[6chars]

6. ten points!

[mac56]

20. Losing your head over rock'n'roll.

Sorry --- too soon?

[Turbineguy]

5. And we are having a conversation about

their right to privacy on their cellphones. These people don't give a fuck about privacy and human and personal rights. And that makes this whole argument between Apple and DoJ ridiculous.

What we should be having a conversation about is whether to bury their bodies or have them eaten by pigs.

[MariaThinks]

8. exactly. thre is something fundamentally wrong with a culture that supports

beheading in any cases.

imagine living under sharia law (or dying under it).

[leftynyc]

11. As a woman

the thought of living under sharia law makes my blood run cold.

[Raster]

15. As a Gay man, I cannot even comprehend having to exist - it certainly would not be living - under...

...Sharia law. I would be forced to don - AND BECOME - a Gay Beret and become a freedom fighter against tyranical religious extremism.

[awoke_in_2003]

26. lefty is a woman...

you are gay, and I am an atheist (who happens to love rock- the harder the better). Sharia law would be the death of us. That is why we have to beware of fundys in our own country, too Make no mistake- if they could implement their own version of sharia law, they would do it in a heartbeat.

[Ilsa]

40. Yep, they would. We must always be vigilant

in maintaining separation of church and state.

[awoke_in_2003]

44. Vigilant...

the perfect world. A large portion of the country got complacent in regards to reproductive rights, and slowly, nibble by nibble, they have all but ended them. You cannot turn your back on these people.

[Ilsa]

52. Yes, some of them even feel free to propose

overturning Griswold vs Connecticut. They feel like they are entitled to push their beliefs on the rest of us.

Most people won't know what we are talking about. I had to explain it to someone once who was upset that her family had been so large. She hadn't put together the timing of births (1950s thru mid-60s) with the lack of availability of birth control, and even if it was legal in some places.

I don't mind people having their own beliefs. They are free not to use contraception. But don't deprive me of my right to use it.

[iandhr]

16. For me it's being Jewish

[leftynyc]

23. I'm a Jewish woman

I would quite simply rather die than live under sharia.

[iandhr]

24. Seems like once again we New Yorkers just have more sense.

[leftynyc]

32. We just know bullshit when we hear it

And blaming the west for the fact these animals are religious freaks is nothing but bullshit. Looks like it's either brutal dictators or religious fanatics are a running theme in the Muslim world and somehow far too many people on the left want to blame the west for that. I'll never buy it.

[Throd]

19. For me, it's being an atheist who loves beer.

[awoke_in_2003]

27. Don't forget the pork rinds...

they are an excellent complement (did I get the right spelling? I hate that word) to beer

[Throd]

29. Hell yes, as long as they're the Mexican variety (chicharrones).

[awoke_in_2003]

37. Oh yes...

the wife is Mex-Am, and I live in the DFW metroplex. Between the REAL Coke (made in Mexico, original recipe with cane sugar, and still the perfect size- 12 oz) and all the authentic Mexican food (although I still can't get the guts to eat Menudo) it would be hard for me to ever leave here.

[leftynyc]

30. Tequila for me

With slices of orange sprinkled with cinnamon. Forget the salt and lime crap. And bacon. Don't eat it often but a BLT with avocado is the best sandwich ever.

[awoke_in_2003]

39. Orange and cinnamon?

I may have to give that a try one day. I am right there with you on the BLAT- avocado is great on a burger, too. Heck, I can eat avocado all by itself. Thanks for the tip

[leftynyc]

45. You'll never drink it another way

ever again. It's heaven and I learned it on Mykonos.

[awoke_in_2003]

49. I don't do tequila often...

but the next time I do I am going to try this.

on edit: Do you sprinkle the cinnamon on the orange slice? Are you using just the fruit or the peel?

[leftynyc]

51. Slice and orange

into like half moon type slices (although I guess chunks would work also), sprinkle the cinnamon on the organige and tear the fruit off the peel with your teeth after you do the shot. Now I'm thinking I'm going to have to get some tonight!!!

[awoke_in_2003]

55. Thanks

Have fun.

[leftynyc]

65. You too

Have a great weekend

[brooklynite]

21. Deuteronomy 22:21

she shall be brought to the door of her father's house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father's house. You must purge the evil from among you.

[elljay]

74. Jews Abandoned the Death Penalty

two thousand years ago. Yes, the ancient text says what it says, which was no doubt the prevailing belief for much of humanity almost 3000 years ago, but the death penalty hasn't been practiced for two millenia. Same for the "eye for eye, tooth for tooth."

[guillaumeb]

50. So what do you think about US support for Saudi Arabia?

They behead very many criminals, Sharia Law is the law, women are forbidden to drive, etc. But they are a favored US client. They also are the center for Wahhabism, the sect that inspired ISIS, and the Taliban, and Al Qaeda.

[elljay]

75. There is a long and sordid

history to the unholy relationship between the US and Saudi Arabia. The Saudis have destabilized much of the Islamic world through their spreading of Wahhabism while our presidents held hands with their princes. The sooner we give up our addiction to oil and support for these petty dictatorships, the better.

[Politicalboi]

34. Not just "their" right, but all our rights

I see the San Bernardino as a work related shooting. He had issues with people at work, and that's where they took it. He may have idolized ISIS but he was not ISIS.

[sharp_stick]

14. These animals won't stop

until they are stopped and they must be stopped.

[dembotoz]

28. nickleback?

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

58. Rick Astley, maybe. nt

[underpants]

83. Never Gonna Give Up Your Teen Spirit

[Calista241]

89. I'm betting it was the Beebs.

[awoke_in_2003]

46. Rec for exposure...

this will not stop until the people living under these thugs rise up and squash them.

[CincyDem]

54. ISIS seems to be a lot like our good friends Saudi Arabia

Averaging 3 executions/week (predominantly via beheading although hanging and the crowd pleasing crucifixion are still in vogue).

I'm not sure they've gone after pop music listeners who miss prayers but with 3/week, who can keep up. The weirdest one I read about was the guy from Lebanon who was found guilty of being a sorcerer. And to add to the brutality, the Kingdom has moved away from using sedatives in advance of the execution.

So yeah - pretty terrible that ISIS does stuff like this but other than the fact that one group says "we want to kill americans" in public and the other only says it in private...these guys are different from the House of Saud how ?

[roamer65]

56. That is because their support comes from two places.

Riyadh and Ankara.

Riyadh is in the driver's seat of Daesh and Ankara does Riyadh's bidding.

[GeoWilliam750]

57. Whilst I would not be in the least surprised if this is actually true

This is a Times of India report of a Kurdish media report or what went on in places where the Kurdish media has no access.

[bluestateguy]

62. Just savages, plain and simple

nt

[mdbl]

63. All I can say is...

Isis is a bunch of sick fucks

[valerief]

73. Couldn't happen without religion.