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Omaha Steve

(99,706 posts)
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 02:10 PM Feb 2016

Lasers should be classed as offensive weapons - pilots' union

Source: BBC

The call comes after a New York-bound plane was forced to turn back to London Heathrow Airport after a laser beam hit the cockpit after take off, causing a "medical issue" for one of the pilots.

It is illegal to shine a light at a plane "so as to dazzle the pilot", but not an offence to own or carry a laser.

The union says they are "incredibly dangerous", and could blind pilots.

Virgin Atlantic flight VS025 turned back after it was struck by the laser on Sunday evening, about six or seven miles west of Heathrow.

FULL story,related stories, and video at link.

How dangerous are lasers to planes?

'It's only a matter of time until someone dies'



Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-35580261

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Lasers should be classed as offensive weapons - pilots' union (Original Post) Omaha Steve Feb 2016 OP
But if they are classified as offensive weapons, won't the NRA get involved? fbc Feb 2016 #1
This story is in the UK. NutmegYankee Feb 2016 #3
If there was even a chance that laser sites would be banned... onehandle Feb 2016 #4
Cats everywhere revolt. Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #2
I want to know how anybody on the ground could get a laser to shine into a cockpit. Vincardog Feb 2016 #5
The industrial lasers are quite powerful bluevoter4life Feb 2016 #6
It doesn't have to be held steady... ThreeWayFanny Feb 2016 #9
Maybe time to get rid of windows. Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Feb 2016 #7
Wouldn't the more important distinction be whether it's a weapon. After that, offensive or 24601 Feb 2016 #8
"Offensive weapon" is a term of art within the law happyslug Feb 2016 #11
Just limit the power output. Adrahil Feb 2016 #10
 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
1. But if they are classified as offensive weapons, won't the NRA get involved?
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 02:19 PM
Feb 2016

I'm pretty sure their position will be that everyone has the constitutional right to open carry lasers that can cut through metal.

NutmegYankee

(16,201 posts)
3. This story is in the UK.
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 02:59 PM
Feb 2016

The NRA concerns itself with US issues, but would likely not get involved as lasers are not firearms. Astronomers, surveyors, and cat owners on the other hand...

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
4. If there was even a chance that laser sites would be banned...
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 03:30 PM
Feb 2016

...the flaccid troops of the NRA would throw pilots and passengers under the bus like they were first-graders at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
2. Cats everywhere revolt.
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 02:26 PM
Feb 2016

Cats today demand that we not impinge on their right to chase the red dot. In a show of protest they have decided to spread their scat next to the litter box instead of within it as is custom.

Tensions remain high as this issue is debated.

bluevoter4life

(788 posts)
6. The industrial lasers are quite powerful
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 04:25 PM
Feb 2016

And can easily fit in your shirt pocket. Doesn't take much to shine it into the cockpit. Your aim doesn't even need to be that good. Once you hit the cockpit, the light then scatters throughout creating a very dangerous situation.

 

ThreeWayFanny

(80 posts)
9. It doesn't have to be held steady...
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 09:57 PM
Feb 2016

...you can wave it around in the general direction snd have a good chance for one or more hits.

7. Maybe time to get rid of windows.
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 08:31 PM
Feb 2016

HD LED monitors and HD cameras are here. Black out the cockpit while in the air and have windows on land.

24601

(3,962 posts)
8. Wouldn't the more important distinction be whether it's a weapon. After that, offensive or
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 08:39 PM
Feb 2016

defensive depends on how it's used.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
11. "Offensive weapon" is a term of art within the law
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 10:56 AM
Feb 2016

Last edited Tue Feb 16, 2016, 12:40 PM - Edit history (2)

It is a British term, we in the States tend to avoid the term, but it means anything that can be used to attack someone else, i,e Rifle, shotgun, Pistol, knife or even a billy club (can be sewing needles in the right circumstances).

Under British law an "Offensive Weapon" is defined as follows

The term 'offensive weapon' is defined as: "any article made or adapted for use to causing injury to the person, or intended by the person having it with him for such use".


http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/l_to_o/offensive_weapons_knives_bladed_and_pointed_articles/

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/186911/Knives_and_offensive_weapons_information_GDS_FAQ.pdf
 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
10. Just limit the power output.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 09:19 AM
Feb 2016

Right now, it's pretty easy to get a powerful laser in the U.S., since regulation of lasers only applies to finish products, not components.

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