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Omaha Steve

(99,659 posts)
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:32 AM Feb 2016

Sanders: McConnell wrong on SCOTUS block (update)

Last edited Sun Feb 14, 2016, 04:17 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Politico

By JON PRIOR

Democratic White House hopeful Sen. Bernie Sanders said Sunday that Republicans would be wrong to block President Barack Obama’s eventual nominee for the Supreme Court.

“I just don’t think it looks good that for very overtly political reasons that the Republicans would deny this president the right to exercise his constitutional responsibility, which is to appoint members to the Supreme Court,” Sanders said on ABC’s “This Week."

“I don’t think the public would look kindly on Republican actions to try to flaunt what he is supposed to be able to do.”

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and other Republicans have said they wanted to wait until after the presidential election before taking up a replacement for Justice Antonin Scalia, who died Saturday.


Bernie Sanders said Republican plans to block a Supreme Court nominee would be "overtly political." | AP Photo


FULL story at link. ORIGINAL story below.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/14/bernie-sanders-says-obama-should-be-allowed-to-nominate-supreme-court-justice/

By Yamiche Alcindor

DENVER — Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont pointedly criticized Republican officials for recommending that President Obama hold off on nominating a successor for Justice Antonin Scalia of the Supreme Court, who died Saturday.

Speaking on Saturday at an annual fund-raising dinner hosted by the Colorado Democratic Party, Mr. Sanders said Republicans are overlooking the powers given to the president in the Constitution. He chastised Republicans for trying to block President Obama’s ability to nominate a justice for partisan reasons.

“It appears that some of my Republican colleagues in the Senate have a very interesting view of our Constitution of the United States,” Mr. Sanders said. “Apparently, they believe that the Constitution does not allow a Democratic president to bring forth a nominee to replace Justice Scalia. I strongly disagree with that.” (Several Republican candidates said President Obama should let the next president choose the justice or urged the Senate to block the nomination.)

“I very much hope that President Obama will bring forth a strong nominee and that we can get that nominee confirmed as soon as possible,” Mr. Sanders said. “The Supreme Court of the United States has nine members, not eight. We need that ninth member.”

FULL story at link.


Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont during a Colorado Democratic Party dinner in Denver on Saturday.Credit Evan Vucci/Associated Press

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/sanders-mcconnell-wrong-on-scotus-block-219281

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Sanders: McConnell wrong on SCOTUS block (update) (Original Post) Omaha Steve Feb 2016 OP
...to undo the damage that corporations, gun nuts, union busters, and haters of women have done. onehandle Feb 2016 #1
Derp. nt Bonobo Feb 2016 #5
If you'd like, I could post a detailed history of the Union Busting efforts of Haim Saban, Hillary Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #30
I was addressing a sitting Senator's correct opinion. Take your divisive threadjack to GD-P. nt onehandle Feb 2016 #38
Thank you awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #65
They cannot stop him from nominating anyone... A Round Tuit Feb 2016 #2
Then we make them pay for it in the General. Their hypocracy over the Constitution can haunt them. Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #4
And they've got more than twice as many Senators up for re-election this year Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #7
Well let's go win 35 races! Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #9
Well, I'm supporting Conner Eldrige in Arkansas Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #10
Until it's pointed out that Senator Obama voted to filibuster a SCOTUS nomination. He really can't 24601 Feb 2016 #76
Beautiful advocating for the Repugs - TBF Feb 2016 #8
If you saw the Republican cage match last night you know thy don't agree with each other on anything Xipe Totec Feb 2016 #12
YES! NOMINATE! SusanaMontana41 Feb 2016 #67
Replace "unless" with "if" and it'll still be true nxylas Feb 2016 #35
Sorry, nxylas, I couldn't resist! BlueJazz Feb 2016 #42
AGREE. nt SusanaMontana41 Feb 2016 #64
And as Bernie will say, Doitnow Feb 2016 #75
And those up for re-election could be voted out for it me b zola Feb 2016 #41
Yes, make lemonade with the lemon. n/t WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2016 #74
Of course he should. He's President for almost one more year. jalan48 Feb 2016 #3
And he was elected by the people. nt Xipe Totec Feb 2016 #13
Exactly-somehow the right wingers have special rights. jalan48 Feb 2016 #14
What special rights? GGJohn Feb 2016 #18
Did Obama say Senators should not vote on the nomination? Xipe Totec Feb 2016 #21
You really mis-interpreted my post. GGJohn Feb 2016 #27
No-those special rights that allow them to block the nomnation jalan48 Feb 2016 #22
I expect they'll just say... William Seger Feb 2016 #25
I agree. I think Obama is going to really enjoy fucking with them. jalan48 Feb 2016 #29
Really? I don't see him doing that at all. SMC22307 Feb 2016 #48
I hope not. I guess I'm optimistic at this point though given his past actions you may be right. jalan48 Feb 2016 #53
It'll be interesting to watch this play out... SMC22307 Feb 2016 #60
Yes-what we do..... jalan48 Feb 2016 #62
This is your legacy, Mr. President. Right here. Right now. SusanaMontana41 Feb 2016 #68
someone highly palatable to Republicans. AlbertCat Feb 2016 #63
Again, what special right? GGJohn Feb 2016 #28
So you're arguing that Democrat's should shut down the government or block nominees for a year? jalan48 Feb 2016 #33
No, that's not what I'm saying, GGJohn Feb 2016 #36
I'm not sure shutting down the government is a "right" nor is blocking a nominee for almost a year. jalan48 Feb 2016 #39
There is nothing in the Constitution that says there is a timeline to GGJohn Feb 2016 #40
As were the Senators and House members. eom. GGJohn Feb 2016 #16
Your point? Xipe Totec Feb 2016 #19
You're reading far too much into my comment. GGJohn Feb 2016 #20
In the context of this conversation your reply is a non-sequitur Xipe Totec Feb 2016 #23
... GGJohn Feb 2016 #32
republicans need to be taken out with the trash berningman Feb 2016 #6
I get the feeling that is fixing to happen madokie Feb 2016 #49
he's right, but the republicans will block still_one Feb 2016 #11
The Repuglycans will Brock... geologic Feb 2016 #45
A real Page turner... curiouso Feb 2016 #15
"I can see Scalia from my house!" houston16revival Feb 2016 #17
That's our Bernie MissDeeds Feb 2016 #24
No matter whom you support fredamae Feb 2016 #26
Names to know- Seante Judicary Committee Members Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #31
Thats Brilliant Bern Cryptoad Feb 2016 #34
Insult this candidates quote too from LBN Omaha Steve Feb 2016 #43
Ugh. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #44
Yep, smart guy... geologic Feb 2016 #46
Sanders clearly states that. SMC22307 Feb 2016 #51
Do we have to fight even about the things we agree on? redwitch Feb 2016 #55
How about keeping that shit in GDP? awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #66
How exceeding gracious of him. Loki Feb 2016 #37
Yes indeed, very gracious... geologic Feb 2016 #47
Sanders is gracious. He also understands the Constitution. SMC22307 Feb 2016 #54
There is almost another year before another president takes office MissMillie Feb 2016 #50
Sotomayor and Kagan. (n/t) SMC22307 Feb 2016 #52
I was kind thinking he will make it hard on the Senate nolabels Feb 2016 #58
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #56
Republicans reminding voters that they work abelenkpe Feb 2016 #57
K&R! nt Duval Feb 2016 #59
There's no frigging "Should Be Allowed" about it rocktivity Feb 2016 #61
Much better than RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #69
Article II Section 2 paragraph 3 and 4 turbinetree Feb 2016 #70
Headline is terrible treestar Feb 2016 #71
"Allowed to..." It's completely unambiguous in the Constitution that he's "allowed to" alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #72
That's ok, if they actually prefer a President Sanders nominee LiberalLovinLug Feb 2016 #73
Someone tell the Senate Republicans to stop acting like their leader is a member of the KKK. TryLogic Feb 2016 #77
These discussions are getting very very annoying. Everybody just CHILL ..please. YOHABLO Feb 2016 #78
The gop-heads are acting like rabid foxes. Dont call me Shirley Feb 2016 #79
They should know that Bernie will nominate more liberal judges than Obama. Elmer S. E. Dump Feb 2016 #80

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
1. ...to undo the damage that corporations, gun nuts, union busters, and haters of women have done.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
Feb 2016

I agree.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
30. If you'd like, I could post a detailed history of the Union Busting efforts of Haim Saban, Hillary
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:52 AM
Feb 2016

donor extraordinaire. I'm sure you'd love it. A taste:
SAG Orders Its Members to Refuse To Work on All Haim Saban Shows
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB88612726433571500

Saban, SAG Struggle Over Digimon Dub Dispute
http://www.awn.com/news/saban-sag-struggle-over-digimon-dub-dispute

That is of course Saban Entertainment, Incorporated.

Then we can discuss the impact of DOMA on women denied the rights of marriage and family protections. Hillary strongly defended DOMA and opposed the rights of those women to marry for about 20 years.

Are you really sure you want to talk about these things? We can. But do you really want to?

 

A Round Tuit

(88 posts)
2. They cannot stop him from nominating anyone...
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:39 AM
Feb 2016

But the Senate must confirm.
And unless the nominee meets their majority litmus tests, they will delay, delay, delay.
And nothing Harry Reid or anyone else can do about.
Sorry...just the way it is.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
4. Then we make them pay for it in the General. Their hypocracy over the Constitution can haunt them.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:45 AM
Feb 2016

They are quick to point out the parts they like, but things like separation of church and state and equality are lost on them!

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
7. And they've got more than twice as many Senators up for re-election this year
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:56 AM
Feb 2016

than the Democrats do-- 24 versus 10

24601

(3,962 posts)
76. Until it's pointed out that Senator Obama voted to filibuster a SCOTUS nomination. He really can't
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 06:00 PM
Feb 2016

argue effectively that his own practices shouldn't be applied to his nominations.

TBF

(32,064 posts)
8. Beautiful advocating for the Repugs -
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:57 AM
Feb 2016

but this will kill you with the moderates. Fine, delay. See what happens.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
12. If you saw the Republican cage match last night you know thy don't agree with each other on anything
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:13 AM
Feb 2016

let alone agree with a Democratic President.

If there is no such thing as consensus for a Republican presidential candidate among Republicans, there sure as hell won't be any consensus on a SCOTUS candidate nominated by a Democratic President.

But that does not mean give up and don't nominate. On the contrary, make the nomination and put the Republicans on display before the country.

Let's see another cage match.


SusanaMontana41

(3,233 posts)
67. YES! NOMINATE!
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 02:05 PM
Feb 2016

We the People can puts LOTS of pressure on Yertle and Co.

I'm unemployed. All the time in the world to make phone calls to whomever.

A demonstration in D.C.? I'm in. Wherever. Whenever.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
35. Replace "unless" with "if" and it'll still be true
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:59 AM
Feb 2016

Obama could raise Scalia from the dead and nominate him and they'd still oppose it.

Doitnow

(1,103 posts)
75. And as Bernie will say,
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 04:52 PM
Feb 2016

"Not Bernie Sanders, or Hillary Clinton ----or one person ALONE can get it done, but when Millions of People get together"-----you know the rest. GOOOOOOO, Bernie!

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
41. And those up for re-election could be voted out for it
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:09 PM
Feb 2016

The public is mad and beginning to take action. The president should swing for the fences in his nomination. If the nomination isn't confirmed it will benefit the Dems.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
18. What special rights?
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:26 AM
Feb 2016

Oh, you mean those special rights conferred upon the Senate by the Constitution?
You know, those special rights that say the Senate is tasked with either confirming, rejecting or taking no action on a President's SC nominee?
Those special rights?

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
21. Did Obama say Senators should not vote on the nomination?
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:30 AM
Feb 2016

You seem to be saying the President should not exercise his power to nominate.

Is that what you are saying?

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
27. You really mis-interpreted my post.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:47 AM
Feb 2016

No, that's not what I'm saying in the least, he should and will nominate a SC candidate, and the Senate should fulfill their Constitutional duties, which is either confirm, reject or take no action.
I was responding to the person who claimed that RW'er's have special rights in regards to the Pres. SC pick.

jalan48

(13,870 posts)
22. No-those special rights that allow them to block the nomnation
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:34 AM
Feb 2016

of a Supreme Court nominee for almost a year because it's an election year. I can't recall Democrats doing anything of this sort. It fits right in with their special right of shutting down the government if they don't get their way. Those kinds of special rights that Democrats don't seem to have.

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
25. I expect they'll just say...
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:45 AM
Feb 2016

... the Founding Fathers gave the Senate the power to confirm so that it would be a partisan process. I don't think there's any way around it; Obama will be obliged to play politics with it for a year, but I think he can handle it.

jalan48

(13,870 posts)
29. I agree. I think Obama is going to really enjoy fucking with them.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:50 AM
Feb 2016

He has nothing to lose. He can make them look incredibly bad which will help the Democratic nominee.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
48. Really? I don't see him doing that at all.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:24 PM
Feb 2016

Starting with his weak "I plan to nominate" statement. He doesn't like confrontation and expects everyone to get along -- it's more likely he'll nominate someone highly palatable to Republicans. We'll see.

jalan48

(13,870 posts)
53. I hope not. I guess I'm optimistic at this point though given his past actions you may be right.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:36 PM
Feb 2016

He certainly wanted to get to work with the Republicans on "fixing" Social Security and passing the TPP. My guess is that we will get a Justice that is liberal on social issues and conservative (read Wall Street friendly) on economic ones. Kinda like one of our current Democratic nominees for President.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
60. It'll be interesting to watch this play out...
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:07 PM
Feb 2016

more fodder for political junkies. Primaries, caucuses, and SCOTUS nominees... oh, my!

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
28. Again, what special right?
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:49 AM
Feb 2016

It's in the Constitution, Democrats have those same exact rights as the repukes, the difference is that the Democrats exercise those rights more responsibly.

jalan48

(13,870 posts)
33. So you're arguing that Democrat's should shut down the government or block nominees for a year?
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:57 AM
Feb 2016

Not only does shutting down the government effect the economy it plays right into the Republican line that the government doesn't work and needs to be privatized in many cases. This is what they want-to show American's our system doesn't work.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
36. No, that's not what I'm saying,
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:59 AM
Feb 2016

I'm saying that the Democrats have the same exact rights, under the Constitution, as the repukes do, the vast difference is that the Democrats exercise those rights far more responsibly.

jalan48

(13,870 posts)
39. I'm not sure shutting down the government is a "right" nor is blocking a nominee for almost a year.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:05 PM
Feb 2016

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
40. There is nothing in the Constitution that says there is a timeline to
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:09 PM
Feb 2016

confirming, rejecting a SC nominee, although there should've been.
See, that's the difference between Dems and repukes, the Dems would have taken it up as soon as the Pres. put forth a nominee, while the repukes will dither and obstruct his nominee, it's not illegal or treasonous, as some have suggested, it's irresponsible and asshattery.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
19. Your point?
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:26 AM
Feb 2016

McConnel said:

“The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president,”

As if Obama was not elected by the people.

Did you hear Obama ever say that senators were not?

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
20. You're reading far too much into my comment.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:28 AM
Feb 2016

I just pointed out that the Congress is elected by the people also.
Have a great Valentine's day.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
23. In the context of this conversation your reply is a non-sequitur
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:35 AM
Feb 2016

We are talking about a senator saying that President Obama should not nominate a candidate for the Supreme Court because "The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice" as if this current President does not represent the voice of the American people, but the next President will. That is obscene.


And you can dispense with the Valentine's Day pleasantries.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
32. ...
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:55 AM
Feb 2016
And you can dispense with the Valentine's Day pleasantries.


Naw, I'll still wish you a happy Valentine's day, just because I'm a nice guy.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
49. I get the feeling that is fixing to happen
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:25 PM
Feb 2016

We're going to elect Bernie and wind up with a strong majority in the Senate and after the first mid term we'll have the house back. We'll make inroads in the house in this election and then finish that off in '18.

My prediction

We Americans are pissed and getting more so every day.

Welcome to DU berningman

curiouso

(57 posts)
15. A real Page turner...
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:21 AM
Feb 2016

I’d like to put forth the name of Alan Page to replace Associate Justice Antonin Scalia. It has been far too long since we had a former football star on the High Court. (Byron “Whizzer” White passed away more than a decade ago.) But Page wouldn’t bring just NFL All-Star credentials to the job. He’s black, you know, and would go a long way toward providing the Court with the sort of racial balance that reflects that of the entire nation – while at the same time providing a counterbalance for Associate Justice Clarence Thomas’s unquestioning approach to the cases that come before the Court. As a bonus, Page has had a distinguished career on the Minnesota Supreme Court, where he not only was an Associate Justice but a member of the three-judge panel that heard the election contest brought by Norm Coleman in 2008. And as an added bonus, he’d save taxpayer dollars because he already owns a black robe.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
26. No matter whom you support
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:46 AM
Feb 2016

It is Time for us All to stand up To the #GOP against their Nomination Blocking Bull Shit, en masse’ – We have witnessed and indeed many have experienced the incredible Harm caused by the rulings of a Fanatical, Koch Bros/Corporate Friendly, Racist Justice. This is about our country first. We Must have sanity and fairness restored to the SCOTUS. IMO, of course.
This time "NO" will Not be accepted from the GOP. We cannot allow Their Obstruction to continue. Election year or Not.

Omaha Steve

(99,659 posts)
43. Insult this candidates quote too from LBN
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:17 PM
Feb 2016

Mrs. Clinton rebuffed the argument by Republicans that a Supreme Court justice should not be appointed in an election year.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
51. Sanders clearly states that.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:32 PM
Feb 2016

Camp Weathervane is getting worked up over the manipulative headline... guess it's easier than reading the entire article.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
54. Sanders is gracious. He also understands the Constitution.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:38 PM
Feb 2016

And if you read the entire article, rather than allowing yourself to be manipulated by a headline, you'd understand that.

MissMillie

(38,560 posts)
50. There is almost another year before another president takes office
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:27 PM
Feb 2016

Why shouldn't President Obama nominate someone?

In his 7 years, he hasn't had the opportunity. (Not that everyone deserves an opportunity....)

The Senate will make this hard for him. No doubt.


nolabels

(13,133 posts)
58. I was kind thinking he will make it hard on the Senate
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:47 PM
Feb 2016

Or even they might make hard on each other, at any rate, i would expect another year of gridlock

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
57. Republicans reminding voters that they work
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:45 PM
Feb 2016

Hard to do no work, to block legislation and nominees, to do whatever possible to gum up and slow down the work of government right before an election doesn't seem like a good idea. Never going to understand why people elect politicians who hate government.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
61. There's no frigging "Should Be Allowed" about it
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:08 PM
Feb 2016

It's the president's goddam JOB, and congress in particular had better help if they want to keep THEIR jobs!


rocktivity

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
69. Much better than
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 02:09 PM
Feb 2016

what Clinton has said, that this is disappointing. Strongly disagreeing is more like it. I would like it better if he was outraged, but Bernie does not do outrage.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
70. Article II Section 2 paragraph 3 and 4
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 02:24 PM
Feb 2016

"He shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall appoint ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, judges of the Supreme Court, and all other officers of the United States, whose appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by law: but the Congress may by law vest the appointment of such inferior officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the courts of law, or in the heads of departments.

The President shall have power to fill up all vacancies that may happen during the recess of the Senate, by granting commissions which shall expire at the end of their next session."


ad·vise
[ədˈvīz]
VERB

1.offer suggestions about the best course of action to someone


con·sent
[kənˈsent]
NOUN

1. permission for something to happen or agreement to do something

VERB

1. give permission for something to happen


http://www.heritage.org/constitution/#!/articles/2/essays/92/inferior-officers

http://www.heritage.org/constitution/#!/articles/2/essays/93/recess-appointments-clause


So, if Turtle lips and his right wing boy(s) and girl(s) and want to play chicken----------------------they lose-------------------yippie



Thirty years of his right wing "stuff" has done so much damage-----------------I feel like Ronnie Reagan is also starting to leave the building--------------------except------------------ there is one justice still on the court from that time frame ------------Anthony Kennedy-----------------and that legacy will live on .................. this is why this election is so important



Honk-----------------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016

Democracy begins with you----------------tag your it---------------Hartmann / Sanders

Democracy is not a spectator sport----------------get involved--------------Hartman

It is about getting a Progressive President, U.S. Supreme Court, Congress, State and Local Legislatures




treestar

(82,383 posts)
71. Headline is terrible
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 02:31 PM
Feb 2016

Bernie did not state is that way. "Should be allowed?" Ridiculous. He has the right to.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
72. "Allowed to..." It's completely unambiguous in the Constitution that he's "allowed to"
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 02:38 PM
Feb 2016

Indeed, he is obligated to.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
73. That's ok, if they actually prefer a President Sanders nominee
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 03:16 PM
Feb 2016

Obama would hand them another "moderate" ie(economically conservative/socially liberal) nominee. One that will support the increasingly safe populist backing of things like gay marriage rights, while solidifying the rule of the Corporocracy. With Sanders all bets are off.

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