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brooklynite

(94,595 posts)
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:07 AM Feb 2016

Hillary Clinton Calls Mitch McConnell’s Stance on Supreme Court Nomination ‘Disappointing’

Source: The New York Times

Hillary Clinton called Senator Mitch McConnell’s statement that the next president, not President Obama, should appoint a successor to Justice Scalia “disappointing” and “totally out of step with our history and our constitutional principle.”

Speaking at a Democratic fund-raising dinner in Denver, Mrs. Clinton denounced Republican presidential candidates and the Senate majority leader’s pledge to not allow Mr. Obama to replace Mr. Scalia, who passed away at a West Texas ranch on Saturday. “For any of us who needed a reminder of just how important it is to take back the U.S. Senate and hold onto the White House, just look at the Supreme Court,” Mrs. Clinton said.

“I know that our thoughts and prayers are with the Scalia family tonight and I am also thinking and praying for the future of our country,” she said. “It is outrageous that Republicans in the Senate and on the campaign trail have already pledged to block any replacement that President Obama nominates”

“Barack Obama is the president of the United States until Jan. 20, 2017,” she continued. “That is a fact, my friends, whether Republicans like it or not.”

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/13/hillary-clinton-calls-mitch-mcconnells-stance-on-supreme-court-nomination-disappointing/

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Hillary Clinton Calls Mitch McConnell’s Stance on Supreme Court Nomination ‘Disappointing’ (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2016 OP
Lest we forget her and Mitch Voted together when it counted most . orpupilofnature57 Feb 2016 #1
You were opposed to John Kerry equally? brooklynite Feb 2016 #2
I think DU might have tape worms... LuvLoogie Feb 2016 #4
Not equally, But Eventually . orpupilofnature57 Feb 2016 #17
Bernie is a pacifist ? stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #5
I believe Sanders voted for more bills to fund the MIC than Clinton did. George II Feb 2016 #12
No, and he's not a War -Monger like the former Secretary orpupilofnature57 Feb 2016 #18
Since you "went there", Lest we forget Sanders and Mitch Voted together more times than Clinton did! George II Feb 2016 #11
NOT on Iraq & The BAIL-OUT !!! Or let me repeat " When it counted " . orpupilofnature57 Feb 2016 #16
So all those other votes didn't really count or stand for anything justiceischeap Feb 2016 #34
I doubt it, But Yes they ALL count, When were Mitch &Hillary together ? Calling Edward Snowden a orpupilofnature57 Feb 2016 #39
Disappointing? That's a little tepid. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2016 #3
it is called political savey. Of course it was outrageous, but she chose her words wisely. olddad56 Feb 2016 #49
oh oh oh I GOT THIS! 90-percent Feb 2016 #6
yep - that should do it! SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #10
K&R! stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #7
She's walking a fine line here houston16revival Feb 2016 #8
:-) Well said. riversedge Feb 2016 #22
I think Hillary is being appropriately loyal to Pres. Obama. The Repugs are rolling the dice NCjack Feb 2016 #9
She should just send McTurtle this brief message: DFW Feb 2016 #13
All Dems should vote no on every single bill the repugs put forward lark Feb 2016 #14
He might if there was a 10-day recess, but there won't be William Seger Feb 2016 #28
Hopefully, Obama won't have to do this. lark Feb 2016 #46
McConnell is one HUGE reason why Clinton needs to get the nomination and the Presidency. George II Feb 2016 #15
Not. orpupilofnature57 Feb 2016 #20
Why? So she can mildly scold them for their tryanous behavior in couched language that ensures whereisjustice Feb 2016 #21
Why her more so than Sanders? JudyM Feb 2016 #30
Actually he doesn't, but aside from that, 39 Democratic Senators have endorsed Clinton, none.... George II Feb 2016 #31
Not so fast, on both of your points! JudyM Feb 2016 #40
I think you should look further into his record in Congress and the level of respect he has.... George II Feb 2016 #41
I have read about it. Certainly he has opinions that are far left of most, but everything I've read JudyM Feb 2016 #42
No, insulting that you even say that. And I've seen actual interviews too. George II Feb 2016 #43
It was just a tease, since there's plenty of pro-Clinton, anti-sanders propaganda out there. JudyM Feb 2016 #44
By the way, in his career in Congress (House and Senate), do you know how many.... George II Feb 2016 #45
I don't, but i imagine not a lot because his process is to work through amendments to bills JudyM Feb 2016 #53
"Dis-appointing" is exactly what he's intending..... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #19
McConnell is an idiot Gothmog Feb 2016 #23
As is Grassley, and I mean actual, literal idiots. These men are the least randys1 Feb 2016 #27
Why do they keep dispensing mild umbrage like this? randome Feb 2016 #24
Because if HRC uses strong language, then she becomes the "b*tch" candidate justiceischeap Feb 2016 #35
Seems like a weakness. Are you really saying women will cower down to men just Elmer S. E. Dump Feb 2016 #48
It is a weakness but it isn't hers, it's society's justiceischeap Feb 2016 #51
That is correct. Elmer S. E. Dump Feb 2016 #52
Disappointing? RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #25
"Disappointing"? What's wrong with "outrageous"? The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2016 #26
Senator Sanders "I strongly disagree" with McConnell. Where is the "Outrage!?" LuvLoogie Feb 2016 #29
Good point! eom BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #32
Well, at least he said he disagreed. justiceischeap Feb 2016 #36
She is Hillary Lannister, complicit in the popping of balloons and other skullduggery. LuvLoogie Feb 2016 #37
Yeah, but when he wags his finger you know he means it! n/m ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2016 #54
Whoa, Hillary, such fiery language! You sure you wanna take such a strong position? tclambert Feb 2016 #33
"Disappointing" is a denunciation? Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2016 #38
Why would she say something that could antagonize the next Democratic Leader in the US Senate? 24601 Feb 2016 #47
I see this as a HUGE loser issue for the GOP hollowdweller Feb 2016 #50
 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
39. I doubt it, But Yes they ALL count, When were Mitch &Hillary together ? Calling Edward Snowden a
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 08:00 AM
Feb 2016

traitor, of course she " Reevaluated " that in the first debate, after Bernie said he was a person who informed US what our government was spying on, Hillary was a part of that .

houston16revival

(953 posts)
8. She's walking a fine line here
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:31 AM
Feb 2016

being reasonable and statesmanlike

without being (as) partisan as McConnell and the Republicans

She's quoted elsewhere as saying it 'dishonors' our Constitution

Good choice - Republicans cannot be allowed to honor
President's Day by trampling on President Obama's Constitutional rights
and obligations.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
9. I think Hillary is being appropriately loyal to Pres. Obama. The Repugs are rolling the dice
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:31 AM
Feb 2016

on the come that they can nominate an establishment presidential candidate at their convention AND win the presidential 2016 instead of taking a centrist (or cloaked rightist) put forth by Pres. Obama. So, I believe that the replacement will drag on to the next president.

Likely either Hillary or Bernie will make the appointment to replace Justice Scalia.

lark

(23,105 posts)
14. All Dems should vote no on every single bill the repugs put forward
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:57 AM
Feb 2016

until and up or down vote is allowed for SCOTUS. Only vote on important things to the country like raising the debt, otherwise don't offer amendments, don't play, just vote NO on every single bill McConnell brings to the floor. Hoping Obama can make recess appointments for SCOTUS like he can with other courts. Does anyone know if he can legally do that?

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
28. He might if there was a 10-day recess, but there won't be
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 02:19 PM
Feb 2016

The Republicans can simply schedule pro forma sessions during the breaks.

lark

(23,105 posts)
46. Hopefully, Obama won't have to do this.
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 01:55 PM
Feb 2016

But I'd certainly not bet on that. Also, Repugs are really lazy so hopefully won't be able to bring this off because no one shows up. Another also, Obama might nominate a moderate that was appointed to the appeals court with no dissents at all. That would be difficult for the Repugs to parlay into no vote.

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
21. Why? So she can mildly scold them for their tryanous behavior in couched language that ensures
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:17 PM
Feb 2016

Wall Street keeps pumping money into her bank accounts?

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
30. Why her more so than Sanders?
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 06:10 PM
Feb 2016

He has far more experience getting things through our divided, partisan senate.

George II

(67,782 posts)
31. Actually he doesn't, but aside from that, 39 Democratic Senators have endorsed Clinton, none....
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 07:59 PM
Feb 2016

....have endorsed Sanders. That is a good indication of which of the two candidates would be more effective with the Senate as President.

I certainly hope no one chimes in with the predictable "of course, they're the establishment like she is".

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
40. Not so fast, on both of your points!
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 11:40 AM
Feb 2016

Sanders has been far more effective, he's been nicknamed the "Amendment King" because he gets so many of his ideas through the divided congress. Recent example is working with rethugs to get major funding for community clinics into ACA. Match up what they've accomplished in just the time she was in the senate. You will see.

As to your other point, endorsing her over him doesn't mean these Dems won't support his initiatives if he wins the White House! They're not rethugs. OTOH, sanders is trusted and respected on both sides of the aisle (there have been a number of articles including interviews if you care to google) and has worked side by side collaboratively hammering out compromises for *years* with them. He has far more experience and success than Hillary in working within the system. Why do you think he's been reelected for so many years by wide margins? Hillary is a lightning rod that rethugs will salivate to obstruct and then proudly wave that flag in front of constituents and donors.

Hopefully you are willing to think about this side of the coin.



George II

(67,782 posts)
41. I think you should look further into his record in Congress and the level of respect he has....
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 11:44 AM
Feb 2016

....with his peers.

I can't get into it here because I'd risk an immediate hide, but his reputation precedes him.

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
42. I have read about it. Certainly he has opinions that are far left of most, but everything I've read
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 11:58 AM
Feb 2016

is otherwise positive. Actual interviews, etc. Have you been lingering on anti-sanders propaganda sites?

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
44. It was just a tease, since there's plenty of pro-Clinton, anti-sanders propaganda out there.
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 12:48 PM
Feb 2016

Some of it even purports to have photographic evidence

George II

(67,782 posts)
45. By the way, in his career in Congress (House and Senate), do you know how many....
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 01:43 PM
Feb 2016

....pieces of legislation Sanders wrote and got passed?

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
53. I don't, but i imagine not a lot because his process is to work through amendments to bills
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 07:46 PM
Feb 2016

that are otherwise popular enough to stand a shot at passing. Congress doesn't like regulating itself or its keppers, after all. I'll look at any links you might want to provide... It's not as if I'm not interested in opposing info.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
19. "Dis-appointing" is exactly what he's intending.....
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:11 PM
Feb 2016

Maybe she should make an appointment about appointing.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
27. As is Grassley, and I mean actual, literal idiots. These men are the least
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 02:10 PM
Feb 2016

that any nation has to offer for service.

That is why they are where they are, the dumber they are the easier to control.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
24. Why do they keep dispensing mild umbrage like this?
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:54 PM
Feb 2016

Why not call them out for their laziness? Their inability to actually work for a living? 'Disappointing'? They're not doing what they were hired to do!!!
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justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
35. Because if HRC uses strong language, then she becomes the "b*tch" candidate
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:04 PM
Feb 2016

Women can't talk any old way, you know. If we do, then we're b*tches, or we're emotional, or unstable or we're ball busters... on and on and on.

Plus when the clown car is all but imploding, it's a matter of perception... if she goes "off the script" so to speak, then she's no better than the Republicans (and many Sanders' supporters say that on daily basis, so why add fodder to that argument?).

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
48. Seems like a weakness. Are you really saying women will cower down to men just
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 04:33 PM
Feb 2016

because they might call them a name? None of the women I know would be that timid.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
51. It is a weakness but it isn't hers, it's society's
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 05:44 PM
Feb 2016

None of the women you know, I'm assuming anyway, are running for national public office.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
25. Disappointing?
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 02:07 PM
Feb 2016

That is an understatement! Why is it not an outrage? Talk about lack of enthusiasm.
If she thinks that this is a disappointment, I wonder how she would feel if her platform items were not worked on during her term? Would they be a minor thing, just as this seems to be?

LuvLoogie

(7,011 posts)
29. Senator Sanders "I strongly disagree" with McConnell. Where is the "Outrage!?"
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 02:20 PM
Feb 2016

Can we stipulate that serious candidates for President avoid the hyperbole of their partisans?



“It appears that some of my Republican colleagues in the Senate have a very interesting view of our Constitution of the United States,” Mr. Sanders said. “Apparently, they believe that the Constitution does not allow a Democratic president to bring forth a nominee to replace Justice Scalia. I strongly disagree with that.” (Several Republican candidates said President Obama should let the next president choose the justice or urged the Senate to block the nomination.)

“I very much hope that President Obama will bring forth a strong nominee and that we can get that nominee confirmed as soon as possible,” Mr. Sanders said. “The Supreme Court of the United States has nine members, not eight. We need that ninth member.”


http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/14/bernie-sanders-says-obama-should-be-allowed-to-nominate-supreme-court-justice/?_r=0

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
36. Well, at least he said he disagreed.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:06 PM
Feb 2016

You just know HRC totally agrees with McConnell because she didn't say otherwise--she's just pandering with her "disappointment." She's HRC... the devil incarnate, as bad as Rubio, Trump and Cruz all rolled into one. Evil, evil Hillary!

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
38. "Disappointing" is a denunciation?
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 12:32 AM
Feb 2016

That's kindergarten teacher talk. Why not just say "inappropriate" if you're going that route?

Now if she said,"Pig-headed and petty," THAT would be a denunciation.

24601

(3,962 posts)
47. Why would she say something that could antagonize the next Democratic Leader in the US Senate?
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 03:58 PM
Feb 2016

Because Chuck Schumer made the same declaration on 27 July 2007, when Bush had about 18 months left in his 2nd term.

Here's the link to the DU thread. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1456104

There was no outrage on DU, other than anger that Sen Schumer had not do so sooner.

That's why I don't get excited when Establishment Republicans and Establishment Democrats play the same old games with each other.

And there are some that will be outraged at the idea of filibustering a nomination President Obama makes to the court.

Except that it was fine when Senator Obama voted to Filibuster Bush's nominee Alito. The only outrage on DU was with Democratic Senators, like Minority Leader Reid, for not supporting the filibuster.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=273x66732

Hillary voted for the war because she triangulated that she needed to support it to keep a presidential bid viable. Any doubt in anybody's mind that all of her votes are calculated precisely along those lines?

Move along citizens, nothing going on here that resembles statesmanship, just more politics as usual.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
50. I see this as a HUGE loser issue for the GOP
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 04:47 PM
Feb 2016


I just can't see their strategy being a good one.

I mean I understand, it hurt me when Thomas filled Marshall's seat but that was how it was. Everybody would have though that the Dems were crazy to try to hold it open, so even though people are used to GOP crazy more now it just highlights that they are unable to govern and if Hillary wins I would expect her to pound them on it during the election.

I think the even split favors us most of the time.

I also think maybe better than average chance for the dems to take back the senate. So they could have some very moderate candidate Obama puts forth or maybe put it off and Hillary or Sanders puts in somebody stronger. How would they like it if Hillary put Obama in there and the dem senate shot it right thru??
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