Over 1,000 Clinton Documents Released, Including 84 New Classified Emails
Source: NPR
Over 1,000 Clinton Documents Released, Including 84 New Classified Emails
February 13, 2016·8:11 PM ET
Jessica Taylor - Square 2015
The latest batch of Hillary Clinton's emails from her time at the State Department includes 84 additional classified documents.
The new emails from her controversial private server, which were retroactively classified since she left office, include 81 which had been upgraded to confidential status and three to secret status. (Classified parts were redacted.)
The Saturday release included 1,012 new pages and 551 additional documents, bringing the total released to 45,830 pages, according to a State Department official. The total means nearly 1,700 emails on Clinton's server have been retroactively classified.
The court-ordered release by the State Department is behind the initial end of January deadline. As a result, more of the Democratic presidential candidate's emails will be released throughout this month, with the final batch coming out on February 29th the day before Super Tuesday, where 15 states will cast primary or caucus ballots.
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kryptoniandawn
(33 posts)So is it still the case that none of her emails her classified prior to the email scandal? I'm very unclear on this point. If they are using partisan BS to retroactively classify them all, that's childish and ineffectual. But if they were always classified, then she's got a lot to answer for.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)But if you knew it was likely classified, that is still a problem. I deal with classified info and it is in every brief.
Yupster
(14,308 posts)Of course it would be classified retroactively. How could it have been classified ahead of time? Who would even know it was sent except for those two.
To me it seems that would be a clear legal vulnerability.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)On what type of information is classified and the level of classification. People granted clearance are expected to know the contents of these and follow them. That information should only be shared via the classified networks.
Yupster
(14,308 posts)So why do they keep saying it wasn't classified at the time?
Some of it couldn't have been classified since it was just between their group and the rest they need to know.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Who gets it. It is possible it was classified when generated but not properly marked and safeguarded .
alfredo
(60,074 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)And there are clear procedures for isolating and reporting. Failure to do so is a serious issue. We had one where someone scanned and sent email to several people. Copier/scanner pulled of the network and hard drive confiscated. All recipients computers removed from net and hard drives confiscated. I am sure more happened on the print server and mail servers. Serious business.
alfredo
(60,074 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)If it met the classification and just not properly marked it very well could be an issue as it is up to the person receiving to safeguard, isolate and report to the security officer
alfredo
(60,074 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Was able to recover it. However if classified spillage is found to have happened, it is not her job to do anything except turn it over to the network and security personnel.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)it doesn't matter how it was or was not marked
content determines markings, markings do not determine content. which is why she keeps saying "i never sent anything MARKED classified." she never says "i never sent anything AT ALL that was classified." she knows the difference and is trying to doublespeak and hoping we are not paying attention.
at least that is how a lawyer on tv explained it
alfredo
(60,074 posts)Could Grassley go after her if she possessed that issue of the NYT?
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)but there is a difference with something that was given(i hope we are talking released and not leaked) and things that were under the control of her office.
alfredo
(60,074 posts)I don't think she has released any classified info.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)there are two issues..
whether classified info was given intentionally to someone who should not have it. no one is claiming she did that.
whether classified info was not cared for or protected properly enabling someone who should not have access to have access. that is the problem here.
obviously intent would make things worse and raise the stakes to espionage. no one is accusing her of that. but if sloppy servers and bad handling let things out, that is bad and may be criminal.
alfredo
(60,074 posts)Did she have her server and personal PC wiped? Is that the proper course of action if there could be classified info present?
I remember the 68 Chicago riots became classified, all mention was censored, even magazines mentioning them was confiscated.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)whether it is "marked" or not
alfredo
(60,074 posts)Out of the blue, they told us that TTY feeds of the AP and UPI were on a need to know basis, and we didn't have the need to know. That was our only uncensored news outlet outside of shortwave. That was over classification. The only reason could have been that what came across those feeds were not the "official story."
I am not going to buy the Republican spin on Hillary. They have been trying to nail her ass to the floor since the early nineties. If it appears that Sanders is going to win, they will try the same guilt by innuendo tactics they used against all Democrats.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)the head intel person in your organization. no offense intended, i just mean to suggest that only a few people have the kind of high position as the sos. if you did, then you know how important all of this is. if we can't count on the top person to take every precaution to be able to identify and protect sensitive info, how can we fairly expect such abilities of lower ranked positions?
no doubt the republicans are having a field day, but their glee about the situation does not by itself remove the possibility that there were some serious issues and possible breaches, some perhaps even criminal.
we will just have to see how it all shakes out when the fbi is finished.
napi21
(45,806 posts)First, I believe all the emails in question were classified retroactively. The FBI has said as much. Second, NO ONE, even the PUBS have cited any damage of any kind to anyone, or any department, and this all happened...HOW MANY YEARS AGO? You really cant say, or we don't know yet!
This is a bunch of political crap IMO.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)if its something, we will all find out soon enough
Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)that unclassified document is immediately given the proper secrecy classification appropriate to the information contained therein. That is what is going on. There is nothing childish or ineffectual here, except for misdirection and misinformation.
alfredo
(60,074 posts)It has nothing to do with national security.
Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)alfredo
(60,074 posts)Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)alfredo
(60,074 posts)/sarcasm
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)seem to have always been classified.
It is the information, not the particular document, which is classified.
There is one email from Hillary instructing a subordinate to remove the header from a classified doc and to send it to her unclassified.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)And just not marked.
alfredo
(60,074 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)And whoever recieved it and was knowledgeable of it being classified.
eomer
(3,845 posts)Now the emails are being marked as classified. But information sent in them was classified at the time they were sent, which is what matters.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)In one email exchange dated June 2011, Clinton instructed her top policy advisor Jacob Sullivan to send her talking points which were scheduled to be forwarded over the State Department's secured network over a non-secure fax line. Sullivan reported a problem with the State Department's secure transmission system, so Clinton told him to wipe off any "identifying heading" and send it over using a regular fax line.
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160112/06423633305/latest-email-dump-shows-hillary-clinton-telling-aide-to-send-classified-documents-over-unsecure-fax-line.shtml
Anyone but Hillary would be in jail for this.
Also I WISH people would stop saying "well Colin Powell and Condi Rice did it, too" because, as I've said time and again - WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE BETTER THAN THAT.
24601
(3,962 posts)classification authorities are delegated by the President.
Why would the Obama admin be smearing her when it's far more likely that they would be trying to soft-pedal it in order to portray the administration as not that bad?
ericson00
(2,707 posts)erlewyne
(1,115 posts)She just never read all of them.
Give her time for chrissakes!
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)riversedge
(70,242 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)Look at some of the info that was released the other day. if you dont think she/they knew that info was sensitive, then you're just refusing to admit reality.
But nothing will happen to hillary; one of her underlings will take the fall. Maybe even Huma
Bernin
(311 posts)And the Democratic debates can ignore it all they want.
The Republicans are not going to play ignore the elephant in the room on this.
This candidate is destroying any chance we have in 2016!
6000eliot
(5,643 posts)joshcryer
(62,276 posts)There's no question about that.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Clinton is quickly becoming unelectable, and superdelegates are taking notice.
hoosierlib
(710 posts)Not properly storing classified material (whether labeled properly or not) on a secure system is a blatant violation of US law and protocol...criminal referral coming for HRC and her Huma...
Vinca
(50,278 posts)she should have known things are retroactively classified and not kept a hackable server in her home. It doesn't matter if other SOSs have done the same thing . . . they aren't running for POTUS. Quite frankly, she should have known better. She should have known she was serving smear on a platter up to the GOP if she ran in the future. I imagine the entire decision about the server was intended to maintain her privacy in case she decided to run for office again. What a monumental backfire. Now that the Supreme Court is immediately on the line and it does look as if she'll end up the nominee, I'm seriously pissed off.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Willfully avoiding oversight, at worst.
madokie
(51,076 posts)I'm sick of hearing about her emails.
This is a republiCON witch hunt and has been from day one. The pukes are afraid of her simple as that.
The thing that worries me about Hillary is the 'CONs will continue to hound her as they did bill if she was to win the Presidency. If I had a magic wand I'd wave all this shit away and let us have a campaign based on facts and issues and this is coming from a staunch Bernie supporter.
Akicita
(1,196 posts)an Obama appointed Inspector General. Not Repubs. She cannot use the partisan witch hunt excuse, as you did, because her own party is doing the investigating.
I'll bet when O.J. was on his long, slow, police chase he was thinking the same as you. "If I had a magic wand I would sweep all this shit away"
lovuian
(19,362 posts)a Special Prosecutor just because of just that point. If that happens, she is got a long battle before her
Akicita
(1,196 posts)Repubs will scream for a special prosecutor.
840high
(17,196 posts)happens it won't be just Republicans screaming. There will be public outrage.
Akicita
(1,196 posts)be tarnished by it. As well as the independence of the Justice Dept. The Clintons tarnish everything they touch, including now Albright, Steinem, and Lewis.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)I presume that if Lynch doesn't want charges there won't be any.
Depaysement
(1,835 posts)The Republicans demand transparency about potentially classified emails, most of which are not material, were received by her and weren't marked classified. What was she supposed to do? Hit reply and chastise her staff for sending emails that might be classified someday?
Funny how Dick Cheney identified a CIA case officer - which essentially revealed at least some of her agents worldwide - a heinous intentional crime - without a peep from any Republican. But this gets an investigation.
I'd prefer that a SOS concentrate on the job and not try to play FOIA examiner.
Akicita
(1,196 posts)private server. You're damn right she should have chastised her staff if they sent sensitive info to her private unsecured server. That's her job.
Depaysement
(1,835 posts)And the fact that it isn't her job is exactly the point.
What the hell is "sensitive" information anyway? Her schedule? Please.
Bernie's right. I'm sick of hearing about Hillary's emails.
Akicita
(1,196 posts)is protected. Sensitive information would be information the government would not want exposed to foreign intelligence exploitation.
Since much of the now classified info was sent directly from Hillary's staff to her, it was up to Hilliary and the staff member to determine if the info was sensitive or maybe even classified. If the information was classified it is illegal for the staff member to send it and illegal for Hillary to store it on her private server or forward it. That simple.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)As she had a clearance shad to sign this form.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Form_312
It is everyone's job to secure classified information, even if you have no clearance but a federal offence if you do and fail to follow the agreement.
azmom
(5,208 posts)In setting up a private server to do her business. She was SOS for gods sake. Her entire job is of a sensitive nature.
Angel Martin
(942 posts)if there is nothing wrong here, why is the State Dept releasing this materlal on a weekend evening ?
karynnj
(59,504 posts)Read the Friday State Department briefing at state.gov.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Its a fake scandal that the media and the GOP and the Bernie bunch want to exploit.
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