Congressional Black Caucus backs Hillary Clinton

[riversedge]

Source: cbsnews.com


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/congressional-black-caucus-to-back-hillary-clinton/


Congressional Black Caucus backs Hillary Clinton

Democratic Presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton attends the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) Foundation's 45th Annual Legislative Conference in Washington, DC, on September 19, 2015.
JIM WATSON/AFP/Getty Images



Last Updated Feb 11, 2016 11:22 AM EST.....................

The CBC PAC formally announced its support of Clinton at a news conference near the Democratic National Committee headquarters in Washington, D.C.

"We must have a president who is knowledgeable on both domestic and foreign policy," CBC chair Rep. G.K. Butterfield, D-North Carolina, said Thursday. "Black lives are being lost on the streets of America because of police misconduct and gang violence...and so we must have a president that understands the racial divide."

"After considering the entire field, there is no question in our mind and in our minds that one single candidate -- one -- possesses the patience, experience and temperament," Butterfield continued, naming Clinton.

CBC members will hit the trail for the candidate in states where African Americans could swing the outcome of the primary, focusing particularly on South Carolina, where Democrats will gather to vote on Feb. 27.
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Butterfield .............."The black community matters, and black votes matter, which is why I publicly and proudly support Hillary Clinton for president," Butterfield wrote. "From fixing the criminal justice system and reforming the voting process to creating jobs and promoting a diverse workplace, Clinton's ambitions match our own."

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/congressional-black-caucus-to-back-hillary-clinton/

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Hillary for Florida
?@Hillary4Florida

BREAKING: Congressional Black Caucus ENDORSES Hillary Clinton!




http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/11/hillary-clinton-gets-backing-from-congressional-black-caucus/?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0



11:46 am ET By Emmarie Huetteman

Hillary Clinton Gets Backing From Black Democrats in Congress

The political arm of the Congressional Black Caucus endorsed Hillary Clinton on Thursday in what has become a tight race for the Democratic presidential nomination, providing an institutional boost as she battles with Senator Bernie Sanders for the support of black voters.

The endorsement comes after the 19-member board of the caucus’s political action committee voted to back her, with Mr. Sanders failing to get any votes and two people abstaining.

The board members said Mrs. Clinton had spent her career proving her commitment to causes important to them, including poverty and voting rights.

“Hillary Clinton has been there,” said Representative Gregory Meeks, Democrat of New York and the PAC’s chairman, referring to her as a “partner” of the caucus.

[2pooped2pop]

1. is the cbc the same as the pac?

Or is this purposely misleading?

[jalan48]

2. I'd bet on purposely misleading.

[AtheistCrusader]

4. PAC only, no member input.

Some individuals within the CBC leadership HAVE personally endorsed her, but the CBC(TM) itself has not.

[pnwmom]

9. Yeah, no member input. Funny, though, they're going out on the trail for her,

even though none of them had any input in the decision.

CBC members will hit the trail for the candidate in states where African Americans could swing the outcome of the primary, focusing particularly on South Carolina, where Democrats will gather to vote on Feb. 27.

[Bohemianwriter]

12. Who cares what the voters and members think? nt

[AtheistCrusader]

13. I can quote stuff too.

"The board was careful to say that this did not constitute an endorsement on behalf of the caucus’s 46 members. In fact, Representative Keith Ellison, Democrat of Minnesota and a member of the caucus, said on Twitter that the board did not consult the other members."

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/11/hillary-clinton-gets-backing-from-congressional-black-caucus/

[KeepItReal]

7. No. The CBC’s PAC is led by 20 members.

18 of them voted for the Political Action Committee to endorse Sec. Clinton - not the entire Congressional Black Caucus.

[appalachiablue]

15. Rep. Keith Ellison, CBC member tweeted 7:47 am today the CBC PAC endorsed

Clinton without CBC membership input.

https://twitter.com/keithellison/status/697809288203522048

[generalchaos]

25. NO and YES

The Congressional Black Caucus PAC is supported by lobbyists and represent the monied interests-- no wonder they endorsed Hillary. They are a twenty-member board, not the members of Congress in the actual Congressional Black Caucus. The two aren't even related, it turns out, although it does include nine current and former Congressional representatives from red states. And furthermore, according to Keith Ellison (via Thom Hartmann), the actual CBC has not endorsed any candidate.

New York has its 'red' areas, although I think the rest is 'blue'??? I'm a left coaster.

[elleng]

34. No. Purposely misleading.

Ellison confirms CBC PAC endorsed candidate without CBC membership input

Now on Twitter:

Rep. Keith Ellison
?@keithellison

Cong'l Black Caucus (CBC) has NOT endorsed in presidential. Separate CBCPAC endorsed withOUT input from CBC membership, including me.

https://twitter.com/keithellison/status/697809288203522048
71

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280115759

[AtheistCrusader]

3. Deceptive headline. CBC didn't endorse. Their PAC endorsed, without member input.

[frazzled]

8. Every member of the CBC, save four, have already publicly endorsed her

Why are you so agitated about this endorsement? After all, Bernie can always just put out flyers or ads claiming they endorsed him. No biggie, right?

[AtheistCrusader]

10. So why the need for the deceptive headline then?

And why no vote/official announcement from the CBC itself?

[frazzled]

11. It's not deceptive. You're just confused.

And misinformed. And overly concerned about this endorsement, obviously.

[AtheistCrusader]

14. Politics is politics.

I was hoping for a straight up and down vote, and wouldn't have said one word about it if they had.

This, is not the clear message I was hoping to see.

The board was careful to say that this did not constitute an endorsement on behalf of the caucus’s 46 members. In fact, Representative Keith Ellison, Democrat of Minnesota and a member of the caucus, said on Twitter that the board did not consult the other members.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/11/hillary-clinton-gets-backing-from-congressional-black-caucus/

[frazzled]

16. Yes, Ellison is one of the 4 who didn't endorse

But 90% of their membership already has. I don't understand what the beef is. Just go ahead say they endorsed Bernie--he does it all the time, and everyone is just fine with that. Get the flyers printed with the CBC logo (if they have one). Or call them "establishment." That's always a good one.

[AtheistCrusader]

17. A good number of the leadership of the Teamster's Union probably endorse Hillary.

But they officially abstained from endorsement this election cycle. That's a message.

I read a little bit into this message too. With "90%" support, why the reticence to officially endorse, or hold a vote and show that 90%?

Seems like a message to me.

[cui bono]

21. Not telling the truth is always a good one apparently.

It's simply not true. But go ahead and live in the bubble.

.

[frazzled]

23. Oh, now that is alert worthy.

I do not make alerts, but calling someone a Teabagger is slimier than slime. That's all I have to say.

I'm sorry you are so put out by this endorsement. It's a fact, though. Deal with it.

[cui bono]

29. I apologize for the comparison. I will edit it. But I didn't call you a Teabagger, I likened

likened your behavior to one. So you see, again, you are twisting reality.

You can either take the facts as they are or you can pretend there is an alternate reality. The facts are not what you say they are though, and even though they have been shown to not be what you say they are, you continue to repeat something that isn't true.

I'm not put out by something that didn't happen. You are really confused or you are being purposely obtuse.

.

[frazzled]

33. Everything I have posted is factual

researched and fact checked.

I've already posted the list of members of the Congressional Black Caucus who have endorsed Hillary Clinton earlier this year. There are 43 Democratic members (plus one Republican). 39 have endorsed her candidacy. You go look it up.

It's funny, though, because I have always equated the behavior of Sanders supporters with Teabaggers. I would never say that publicly, however, much less direct such an accusation directly to someone on this site.

[AtheistCrusader]

45. That's a totally different claim.

"39 have endorsed her candidacy"

That claim is quite different from "Congressional Black Caucus Endorses Hillary Clinton". I am capable of holding a personal opinion separate from my vote as a member of an organization. Do you not see the difference?

If there was no difference and the opinion of the Org was actually gauged and voted upon, then there would be no controversy here at all. There is controversy because it is being presented as something it is not. (CNN's fault, because they conflated the Org with it's PAC, but you are defending that.)

We shouldn't have to have this argument. It's clearly poor form, and an assumption. It was wholly unnecessary to cast it in that light. Just vote on it, or officially state you have no position, but the PAC does. Not hard. Take an hour.

Which begs the question 'why not?'.

Why is Rep. Ellison clearly upset about the implication?

[frazzled]

49. There are a total of 46 members of the CBC

That IS the Congressional Black Caucus. That is their MEMBERSHIP. Most of those members have individually endorsed Clinton. Several have not.

The CBC PAC is a PAC, that it to say a fundraising organization, not a group with "membership." Its main purpose is " to increase the number of African Americans in the U.S. Congress, support non-Black candidates that champion our interests, and promote African American participation in the political process." It has board members, and it has donors. It does not have voting "members," to my knowledge.

I don't know what the issue is. The CBC PAC has made an endorsement. Individual members of the CBC have also made their endorsements. If you're unhappy about it, I think that is your issue, not theirs.

[AtheistCrusader]

50. I know that there are 46 members.

This is not news to me. I just said that most of them had personally endorsed Clinton.


I didn't say the PAC was a group with membership. I know what a PAC is. That's why I knew the headline was wrong.

Again, Rep. Ellison seems upset with the implication. Why, do you suppose?

[cui bono]

48. And yet you just said it publicly.

You are full of contradictions.

Individual members endorsing does not mean the group endorsed. A PAC endorsing does not mean the actual group endorsed.

I, for one, am tired of all the misinformation coming from Hillary supporters and it's gotten a lot worse since NH. And I don't just mean exaggerating such as what you and the OP are doing, yesterday there was one of the nastiest posts I've seen on here, rivaled only by the infamous "Not Good Enough, Bernie" OP, and it was by a so-called journalist. That and the NGE, B OP are full on Teabaggery. I haven't seen that from Sanders supporters. I know Hillary supporters are mad about the negative OPs about her, but they are based on her record and actions. And we don't call Hillary supporters HillHags, which would probably be the equivalent of BernieBros.

But whatever.

.

[cui bono]

20. No one is agitated by something that didn't happen.

We're yet again disappointed that Hillary supporters refuse to deal with facts.

The CBC did NOT endorse Hillary. The PAC did and without asking CBC members. Typical so far of her group endorsements. The people didn't pick her, the leadership/PACs did.

.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

24. They're agitated because they don't think black people can think for themselves with or without

CBC endorsement.

We black folk are sheep, you see.

If CBC or CBC PAC endorses Clinton but not Sanders, then truly something is wrong with them.

I argue that it doesn't matter which candidate the CBC, CBC PAC or members of the CBC endorses.

BLACK VOTERS THINK FOR THEMSELVES!

Sanders' fanatics can't seem to grasp this concept.

[frazzled]

28. Absolutely agree

And this is why I kind of wish we would just call them VOTERS.

[MrWendel]

57. BOOM!

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

64. His fanatics are attacking me because they're upset with black voters being grown ups.

I'm not sure what to tell them.

[riversedge]

22. Members WERE asked, so you are wrong about that. And Dan Merica touts a Sanders avatar -

Sanders and himself --on his twitter account--for at least the lst 2 months since I noticed it. IMHO it is odd that he would do this since he covers both Hillary and Bernie.






Dan Merica
Verified account
@danmericaCNN

Political Producer for @CNNPolitics. @BentleyU & @AmericanU grad. Nats fan. Currently covering Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders and 2016 Dems. [e-mail]

Washington, D.C. • cnn.com/politics

[AtheistCrusader]

27. Tell it to Rep. Ellison.

"Representative Keith Ellison, Democrat of Minnesota and a member of the caucus, said on Twitter that the board did not consult the other members."

Here's his twitter feed.
https://twitter.com/keithellison/status/697809288203522048

[cui bono]

31. So Keith Ellison is lying? n/t

[elleng]

35. Sure is, and DUers who think it's 'swell' are off the mark.

'Separate CBCPAC endorsed withOUT input from CBC membership, including me.'

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280115759

[Gene Debs]

5. Actually, it's "Congressional Black Caucus Super PAC" backs Hillary Clinton. Google is your friend.

[elleng]

36. Right. Thanks.

Nothing like FACTS!

[SidDithers]

67. No, it's not...nt

Sid

[Gene Debs]

6. Read all about the endorsement here!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280115759

[Android3.14]

18. More proof that HRC is more about appearance than substance

Ignore what your members might want. Heck, why even risk asking?

This is leadership? This is democracy?

What.
A.
Joke.

[cui bono]

19. No, actually they did not.

The CBC PAC did. Keith Ellison said the PAC came out with that without consulting the CBC members.

Yet another Hillary endorsement based on the higher ups/leaders/whatever not polling the people themselves.

All the bolding in the world doesn't make it true. Facts still matter.

.

[boomer55]

26. Only the Super Pac.like the primary in general... pacs and corps for Hillary... people for Bernie

[Duckhunter935]

30. bad headline

It was actually the PAC. Hillary likes PACs and superpacs

[Beacool]

32. I notice that some folks are twisting themselves like pretzels to diminish this endorsement.

You support the one you came to the dance with. Of course they were going to support Hillary. Why would they support Sanders? That's what happens when you refuse to join the party for decades and even run against them.

[Kurovski]

39. That's essentially what they said at the announcment.

Hillary is a Dem, Bernie has been an Independent until this campaign. It was very clearly stated.

[Beacool]

42. Democrats support Democrats. Sanders is not one in many people's eyes.

He just joined the party to be able to run for president, not out of conviction. That's not a rousing endorsement. Why should elected Democrats support him? They will support the candidate who was there for them, who in some instances campaigned to help them get elected and reelected, and the person who along with her husband has raised many millions of dollars for other Democrats.

Sanders may have caucused with them, but he riled against the party and ran against Democrats in the past. There's no loyalty among Democrats for him.

[AtheistCrusader]

56. His platform is remarkably progressive, and left of Hillary's positions, historically.

That's why it's a rousing endorsement. To me.

I'm beyond giving a shit about 'loyalty'. I want to know the candidate's track record and platform.

Bill and Hillary are different people, who will likely govern differently. I'm still residually pissed at Bill, because he ran to the left, but governed from the center. The Right wing got WAY too many concessions out of him, for a variety of reasons, and we suffered for it. I don't want a repeat.

"Separately, starting in the 1980s Congress debated bills to repeal Glass–Steagall's affiliation provisions (Sections 20 and 32). In 1999 Congress passed the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act to repeal them, with nearly all Republicans and a majority of Democrats in favor. Eight days later, President Bill Clinton signed it into law."

I want a president who will take a stand on that issue. Even at the risk of being over-ridden. Sanders will do that. Bill didn't. His treasury opposed regulating derivatives, and supported repeal of Glass-Steagall. He signed it.

But Bill isn't running now. With the millions in her coffers from Wall Street, will Hillary take a stand? I'm not convinced. I'm not convinced by her involvement in TPP. I'm not convinced in her involvement in 'speaking' at Goldman, and Morgan, and no transcripts. Maybe she said she'd burn them to the ground, but I don't know that. I can't know that. All signs point to 'be afraid'. So until Sanders is off the table as an option, my support goes to him. I think he'll do the right thing.

[turbinetree]

43. I have to say, I find this comment of your's offensive.....................................

that this is some kind of payback or some tic for tact to allegiance -------------------really.

That this is what it is all about---------------------

Why would they not support Sanders?

he has not deviated from that stance / "position" since then, after then, or before then...........................in fact he has come out and said what MLK said on these three words (POVERTY, RACISM and MILITARISM) and about fixing the politcal system-----------and this campaign is based on some moniker before the name ------------I find that offensive


I am trying to fully understand the reason to the why...............................

because some "members" of the caucus are endorsing her on this point......................the last five words in the below quote says exactly what...........................does not Sander's meet those ambitions? And as to Why not?

"The black community matters, and black votes matter, which is why I publicly and proudly support Hillary Clinton for president," Butterfield wrote. "From fixing the criminal justice system and reforming the voting process to creating jobs and promoting a diverse workplace, Clinton's ambitions match our own."


There is some very useful information, in my humble opinion on this site

https://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2016/01/17/dr-martin-luther-king-jr-the-three-evils-of-society-racism-militarism-and-capitalism/

[Beacool]

46. It's simple.

It's not about Sanders' advocacy. It's about an Independent who joined the party only when he decided to run for president. Elected Democratic officials feel zero loyalty to him. The Clintons have been the standard bearers of the party for years. They have campaigned for fellow Democrats and have raised many millions of dollars for the party and other Democratic candidates. Why should these people now turn around and support the Johnny come lately to the party? Some even resent Sanders trying to hijack their party. He should have run as what he has proudly been all his life, an Independent.

[turbinetree]

53. Really..................................

and the Clinton's have been loyal----------------------I will not get into this gambit of high jacking this party------------------to me high jacking a party is when some Third Way DINO's and the "party' and are still doing what today?

So this is about punishment-----------------really---------------

Hillary Clintons

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/candidate.php?id=N00000019

https://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2015/12/01/super-pacs-dark-money-and-the-hillary-clinton-campaign-part-1/


Bill Clinton

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/clinton-money/

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/02/05/us/1992-campaign-personal-finances-wealthy-investment-family-big-help-clinton.html



And finally Bernie Sanders past and present

http://maplight.org/us-congress/legislator/450-bernie-sanders

https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N00000528

[Timishini]

37. Breaking: Sanders questions Obama leadership (Politicio)

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/bernie-sanders-slams-obama-219131

[Bernin]

41. Off topic.

Post as an OP.

[riversedge]

59. Please start your own topic.

[George II]

62. He was pretty offensive in his interview this morning - not surprising, though, considering...

....he thought that Democrats should have primaried a sitting Democratic President back in 2012.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

38. With all the respect I can muster: Fuck you, Congresspeople!

[Beacool]

44. Why the insult, because they won't support a man who wasn't a Democrat until 5 minutes ago???

Why should they support the candidate who only joined the party out of political expediency when he decided to run for president? He has always been proud of his Independent status. Well, let him get support from Independent elected officials. Oh, there aren't many of those, right?

[brooklynite]

47. Will the Revolution be kicking them out of office?

You've got alternative candidates, right?

[Bernin]

40. Just more establishment

supporting Hillary without input from the rank and file.

Exactly what I expect from the Hillary supporters.

[kstewart33]

54. Perhaps this might help.

Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), the preeminent voice on civil rights in Congress, downplayed Sanders' involvement with the SNCC and the movement during the CBC PAC's press conference Thursday.

"I never saw him, I never met him. I was chair of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee for three years -- 1963 to 1966," he said. "I was involved in the sit-ins, the freedom rides, the March on Washington, the march from Selma to Montgomery. I directed the board of education project for six years. I met Hillary Clinton. I met President Clinton."

[fbc]

51. It's a bunch of lobbyists!!!

https://theintercept.com/2016/02/11/congressional-black-caucus-hillary/

[kstewart33]

52. From John Lewis, the preeminent voice on civil rights...

"I never saw him, I never met him. I was chair of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee for three years -- 1963 to 1966," he said. "I was involved in the sit-ins, the freedom rides, the March on Washington, the march from Selma to Montgomery. I directed the board of education project for six years. I met Hillary Clinton. I met President Clinton."

Apparently the black community wants someone whose actions speak far louder and longer than words.

[Cha]

55. Someone alerted.. poor thing couldn't handle..

On Thu Feb 11, 2016, 02:33 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Congressional Black Caucus backs Hillary Clinton
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141345006

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Inappropriate because it's not true. Their PAC endorsed Hillary, not the Congressional Black Caucus. They are getting lots flack right now, from this untrue info flying around.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Feb 11, 2016, 02:38 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: "The CBC PAC formally announced its support of Clinton at a news conference near the Democratic National Committee headquarters in Washington, D.C. "

Isn't that just flat-out true?
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: the news sources are reputable. Alert appears to be only on political grounds because the alerted does not like the endorsement
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It's true.. The CBC is backing Hillary.. deal with it.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

[MrWendel]

58. This is...

COMPLETELY PATHETIC! Bernie Broin' with an alert. Jesus.

[riversedge]

60. Eyes rolling.

[Cha]

61. Nice OP, rivers!

Thank you!

[SidDithers]

66. Wow...

Sid

[Gothmog]

63. This is a major endorsement

[SidDithers]

65. DU rec for all kinds of reasons...nt

Sid