Cliven Bundy booked into the Multnomah County, OR jail at 10:54 p.m.
Source: http://KATU.com/
Three Bundys are now in the Multnomah County jail: Cliven and his sons Ammon and Ryan
Read more: https://mobile.twitter.com/KATUNews/status/697678274084921344/photo/1
Just the tweets right now from local stations...
He self-extradiated himself!!!
sweetloukillbot
(11,029 posts)winstars
(4,220 posts)sweetloukillbot
(11,029 posts)greyl
(22,990 posts)They went to bed after 10PM to surrender in the morning. You can fast forward to the end of the vid.
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/02/oregon_standoff_fbi_moves_in_o.html
sweetloukillbot
(11,029 posts)jmowreader
(50,560 posts)earthshine
(1,642 posts)I feel dirty now.
Twitter is a sewer. I want nothing to do with it.
Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)Mendocino
(7,495 posts)in jail or prison at the same time. Cliven Jr was sent up just recently.
Sweet!
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,586 posts)Mendocino
(7,495 posts)They'll have to build a new prison just to hold the old man and his evil spawn.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Ford_Prefect
(7,901 posts)jobendorfer
(508 posts)It's been a topic of discussion for a couple of days out here in Oregon, that Cliven Bundy
was planning to leave Bunkerville, NV (where else could he live, really?) and visit
Burns.
I said to my wife, "He'd better be careful. He's leaving his stronghold base of support,
and who knows what sealed federal paper he's got hanging on him?
Five hours later he was taken into custody at the Portland airport.
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
J.
Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)he had prior indictments before the big standoff at the ranch. He's owes a shitload in grazing charges, we know that.
jobendorfer
(508 posts)Cliven kind of came into my notice when the refuge occupation started right after New Year's.
I had read, sort of vaguely, that there was standoff in Nevada that got pretty ugly, but nothing
that I had read in the last few weeks about any warrants that were publicly known of.
But absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence, right? Sounds like there is a backstory here.
Cheers!
J.
Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)These guys are Mormons, too. Check out "Deseret" sometime on google. Here's the wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Deseret Interesting reading about the history of the Mormons and their roots.
Also, these guys are apparently affiliated (if not a part of) the Oath Keepers and other anti-government militia groups.
If you do just a little digging into those groups, it will scare you plenty.
Hoppy
(3,595 posts)If the Oafkeepers were that dangerous, Congress woulda done something about them.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Ammonition. Yep it's misspelled on the birth certificate. I shit you not.
Okay, I do... I'm just kidding.
Thank you and good night. You've been a great audience!
.
barbtries
(28,799 posts)laughed out loud
cui bono
(19,926 posts)My 3am joke fell flat.
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happyslug
(14,779 posts)When Lot had sex with his daughters and they each had a child, one was name Ammon. He became the founder of the Ammonite people who are mentioned in the old Testament as a people close to but also an enemy of Ancient Israel and Judea:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammon
Thus the name is biblical and has nothing to do with Ammunition.
In the book of Mormon it is name of one of the heroes of that book. For background the Nephi were a "Light skin" race of ancient Israelis who left the Book of Mormon for Joseph Smith to find and translate and then publish in 1830. The Lamanites were a dark skin people also from ancient Israel but who had been "Cursed" and later wiped out the Nephi.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamanite
Anyway here in Ammon as he is told about in the book of Mormon:
Ammon and his men discover the descendants of the people of Zeniff, who had successfully colonized Nephi but were then enslaved by the Lamanites. Zeniff's grandson Limhi rules under the Lamanites and initially imprisons Ammon. Upon learning who Ammon is, he releases him and rejoice in his arrival. Ammon, Gideon, and King Limhi devise a plan to escape from the Lamanites, wherein they make the Lamanite guards drunk. The plan is successful and Ammon leads them back to Zarahemla.[4]
Prior to their escape, Ammon teaches the people of Limhi the famous sermon of King Benjamin and helps convert them to the gospel. However, when the people desire baptism, Ammon refuses to perform the ordinance, "considering himself an unworthy servant".[5] The reason for his apprehension is not given, and the people wait until they reach Zarahemla to be baptised by Alma the Elder, who was previously a priest among them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammon_(Book_of_Mormon_explorer)
Thus Ammon is a popular name among Mormons.
Marty McGraw
(1,024 posts)The word has even been morphed through the ages to be included at the end of christian prayers - oh the Pharohs of old are Laughing.
happyslug
(14,779 posts)First you must understand that Ancient Egyptian, Aramaic, Arabic and Hebrew are all closely related languages, closer to each other then Italian, Spanish and French are to each other. Thus a lot of sentence structure and words are very similar in each language, with many difference more like dialects then actual different words.
Aramaic was used in parts of the New Testament for Aramaic was the language in popular usage in Palestine before the Arab Conquest, but after the Arab Conquest Arabic became the language not only of Arabia, but the Near East and Egypt (Thus was more a change in writing then any real change in language for the languages are all that close).
Given that background the Jewish word "Amen" is best translated as "So be it". It effect when you say "Amen" you are saying "The end" to the pray.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amen
Ammon, as used by ancient Egyptians meant "The Hidden one" and was the name of the Chief God of Ancient Egypt:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01430d.htm
Thus the words are similar, but appear to be derived from different Semitic words, thus giving some people the idea that Amen is derived from Ammon. Scholars who have looked at both words just can NOT make such a connection for both appear to be words that even in ancient times meant different things.
One source of this confusion is transliteration, the translation of one language to another when the two languages use different alphabets. For example when a Slavic name ending with the meaning of "of" (as in From, of New York City, meaning someone from the City of New York) is translated into English from Russian, it goes from the Cyclic Alphabet to the Latin Alphabet and comes out with a "sky" at the end of the name.
On the other hand the same name in Polish, Polish uses the Latin Alphabet, are translated unchanged and thus end in the "ski". Is there any real difference it that ending of a name? No both mean "of" (like the German "von" means "of" but the Slavs put it at the end of the name instead of before the name) but when translated into English the Russian end in y the Polish ends in i. The reason for this is Polish uses the Latin Alphabet and thus no need to translate each letter of a name, while the Russians use the Cyclic alphabet and thus when translated into English you not only have to translate the word, but also each letter for the Russians use a different alphabet.
http://www.polishroots.org/Research/SurnameSearch/Surnamesendings/tabid/118/Default.aspx
In the case of Semitic names, Hebrew uses a phonetic alphabet, the Ancient Egyptians used hieroglyphics. This leads to same words used on both languages being translated into English differently and at other times as the same word.
Then you have the problems of words pronounced the same but derived from different sources, for example in English, Wood and Would, there, they and their, weather and whether, Well and While. The words are pronounced the same but have completely different meanings (and if you ever read US Civil War letters home, you realized how recent most words have assumed their present spelling, Sir Samuel Johnson, the author of the first English Dictionary made the comment "That it was a sign of a lack of Education to be only able to spell a word one way" and that was the rule while into the days of Free Public Education (but since the Civil War how to spell words have become more rigid).
You also have the problem of one word being used for two purposes in other languages. The Classic example is "Of". In English "of" can mean by or from. Thus Karl Marx's famous comment about "Dictatorship of the Proletariat", did he mean rule BY the Proletariat or rule OVER the Proletariat? you can make both argument (and it appears that is what Marx wanted, for he wrote in English, in many ways Marx wanted BOTH, not only over but also by the proletariat). "Of" can mean by, from or over in English. Same word, three different meaning,
Thus to say Amen came from the Egyptian god Ammon is assuming that the words are the same, when there is good evidence that the words are not (more like "Wood" and "would" not "of" . Both words in ancient times were used in different context, Amen as an ending (So be it), Ammon as a proper name (The Hidden One) which indicate even in ancient times they meant different things (more"Wood" and "would" as oppose to "of" . That is what most scholars view these two words today. You have some you say they are the same word, but the support for that position is poor and as such NOT the opinion of most scholars.
dana_b
(11,546 posts)I don't know why I didn't think of ammunition!
trusty elf
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me b zola
(19,053 posts)mdbl
(4,973 posts)Snipe em out with tranquilizer darts.
Rochester
(838 posts)In addition to whatever he's wanted for this time, this would be a good time to throw the book at him for the stunt he pulled last year, if the statute of limitations has not yet run out.
Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)for one thing. IIRC he had a couple of bench warrants against him last time. Probably should be still pending.
Not sure if Oregon has anything on him, but he was wanted by the fed marshalls.
Rochester
(838 posts)trueblue2007
(17,228 posts)CLIVEN BUNDY arrive in portland oregon little while ago. his wrinkly old self is in jail now.
the federal boys threw him in multnomah country jail so's he could rest his ol' self awhile
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Cliven Bundy, the Nevada rancher who touched off one armed showdown with federal authorities and applauded another started in Oregon by his sons, was arrested late Wednesday at Portland International Airport and faces federal charges related to the 2014 standoff at his ranch.
He faces a conspiracy charge to interfere with a federal officer -- the same charge lodged against two of his sons, Ammon and Ryan, for their role in the Jan. 2 takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Burns. He also faces weapons charges.
The Bundy Ranch Facebook page reported Cliven Bundy was surrounded by SWAT officers and detained after his arrival from Nevada.
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/02/nevada_rancher_cliven_bundy_de.html
I am so ecstatic. I was on my way to bed after watching hours of the live feed of the occupiers panicking...but now this has me all charged up again.
YEEHAW!
Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)just a matter of time.
Who is the guy hosting the feed. He seems to be egging them on with stupid.
Duckfan
(1,268 posts)It's closer to Burns than Portland.
Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)He's bound for Leavenworth eventually.
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)saltpoint
(50,986 posts)or end of last year, beginning of this one.
Which probably means Trump will name Cliven as his vice presidential nominee. Cliven is just as vacuously stupid as Sara Palin and his voice isn't nearly as screechy.
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)saltpoint
(50,986 posts)its own series. FritoLay and other snack companies would jump at the chance to be their sponsors.
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)saltpoint
(50,986 posts)Kennah
(14,276 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)According to the Multnomah County Jail, the 74-year-old Bundy was booked into jail at 10:54 p.m.
...
Right now the charges against him aren't clear, but he is being held on a U.S. Marshals' hold.
In a news release late Wednesday, the FBI said that Bundy was taken into federal custody. The agency said that more information on the charges against him is expected to be released Thursday morning.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)I used to live in Portland--In an area referred to as Multnomah--just odd to see the name appear in the subject line. Anyway, I am glad there were guns involved-or a shootout . Cliven needs to face the Law.
Les Zaitz ?@LesZaitz 2h2 hours ago
MORE: Among the charges Cliven Bundy faces is conspiracy to interfere with federal officers. The same charge his sons face for OR takeover.
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Anne Harrington ?@AnneHarr13 2h2 hours ago
@LesZaitz @JohnLGC @Karimala1 Clever to arrest him after a TSA check to ensure his bodyguards would be unarmed.
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Nanga def
?@artsyTrish
@AnneHarr13 @Yall_Qaeda @LesZaitz @JohnLGC @Karimala1 A rare opportunity for FBI to nab him.
jfern
(5,204 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)free? Now is the time to get them out of there. And to take them to pay all those back rent bills.
kairos12
(12,862 posts)IronLionZion
(45,454 posts)or die.
Paladin
(28,264 posts)They wouldn't enjoy much of anything in the way of a national following, if they weren't walking around, looking like extras from a John Wayne western. It's the same sort of third-rate theatrics that keeps Trump propped up.....
Vinca
(50,278 posts)William Seger
(10,779 posts)Hotler
(11,425 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)NT
Earth_First
(14,910 posts)Family Reunion!
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)handmade34
(22,756 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)He must have been on the 'no fly list'.
Not so safe for people at the airports these days, IMO it won't be long before some idiot makes a 'last stand' in the crowded pre-security checkpoint areas.
Then TSA will open additional checkpoints along the highways near airports.
Mendocino
(7,495 posts)KKK Klavern Bundy and three of his sons in jail or prison. YeeHaw!
VMA131Marine
(4,140 posts)Should be no problem for him to set up a GoFundMe account for his supporters to help out
calguy
(5,315 posts)1.
ffr
(22,670 posts)The FBI has not released information on what charges the elder Bundy faces. He's due in court later this afternoon.
This couldn't have turned out better! And we get the bonus of hearing what charges the FBI has for Cliven this afternoon. I might have to do a summer trip out to their ranch in Nevada to take pictures of what an American welfare recipient's property looks like.
Heck with waiting for all that. I'm going to take the day off to watch this unfold on television and celebrate!
hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)Now expect them to start rounding up and charging some of the others from both incidents.
ffr
(22,670 posts)~4,000 comments, almost without exception, all going against Cliven Bundy and his freeloading family and friends.
"Don't forget to bring some lube."
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)I knew he was crazy enough to do this. I just had a feeling this was not going to go smoothly. the other three have surrendered. He's saying unless the Feds promise him he won't have to pay taxes for abortion, he wants to die for the cause.
I don't think he's coming out alive. He may even take himself out.
"I'm actually just pointing a gun at my head."
"I told everybody that I would have a pistol and I would kill myself."
These people are not trained or skilled at suicide prevention. They are screaming at him in their excitement. Now all sound is off. I wonder if he just shot himself?
Video is currently unavailable. Try again later. Damn!
OK...video is restarted. He's still talking to them.
They should get his father on the line.
Whew! He just surrendered. Unbelievable.