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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 01:05 AM Feb 2016

LIVE Call In Wildllife Refuge Burns, Oregon -- FBI Seige Ongoing, Surrender Deal Reached

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Rev. Frankin Graham is meeting them in the morning at 8am to organize a surrender. FBI will not escalate tonight, they must give up their guns come out with their hands up and will not be 'taken down' on the ground by police

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LIVE Call In Wildllife Refuge Burns, Oregon -- FBI Seige Ongoing, Surrender Deal Reached (Original Post) big_dog Feb 2016 OP
Could you possibly change the title to "Refuge IN Burns, Oregon"? rocktivity Feb 2016 #1
everyone agrees they are coming out unarmed with american flags to meet with dr graham big_dog Feb 2016 #7
Deluded fantasists fed on false history by W. Cleon Skousen and his Koch paid heirs. Ford_Prefect Feb 2016 #2
Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious Feb 2016 #4
Yes, that article was most informative, thanks Ligyron Feb 2016 #23
Excellent point. jwirr Feb 2016 #31
We are not surrendering...we are just turning ourselves in titaniumsalute Feb 2016 #3
They're turning themselves in all right. INto non voting - non-gun owning felons. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #11
lol Cosmocat Feb 2016 #25
lol ffr Feb 2016 #32
Guess it's better than christx30 Feb 2016 #12
I was just laughing at the hypocrisy of titaniumsalute Feb 2016 #21
It is funny. christx30 Feb 2016 #22
You need a heart so here's one. Ligyron Feb 2016 #24
An honest restitution amount... 63splitwindow Feb 2016 #5
Franklin Religious Bigot Graham. Great move. Lint Head Feb 2016 #6
Fiore stuck herself in the middle of that breakfast tea party too. L. Coyote Feb 2016 #8
I'm furious with myself. Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #9
Delusional drama queens world wide wally Feb 2016 #10
Just turned it back on after everything had gotten all calm sweetloukillbot Feb 2016 #13
OVER OUR DEAD BODI....wait, you guys have snacks? Ok. We'll come out. AtheistCrusader Feb 2016 #14
Reports are coming in on Twitter that Cliven was met at the PDX airport by a SWAT team sweetloukillbot Feb 2016 #15
Yep. Linked within. Arrested and expected in court this afternoon ffr Feb 2016 #33
Thank you for the heads-up (nt) Babel_17 Feb 2016 #16
Who is this Gavin guy...? PoiBoy Feb 2016 #17
Not live anymore, ended at 10PM nt greyl Feb 2016 #18
Kinda figured it was a rebroadcast when I heard them say the sun was going down. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #20
Listening now... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #19
Isn't this situation, what tear gas is for. sylvanus Feb 2016 #26
Sean and his wife hysterical now womanofthehills Feb 2016 #27
And they arrested Cliven Bundy also .. at last! ananda Feb 2016 #28
"There are thousands that will be with you always..." Tarc Feb 2016 #29
Problem is, it's like trying to deal with heavily armed 6-year-olds William Seger Feb 2016 #30

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
1. Could you possibly change the title to "Refuge IN Burns, Oregon"?
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 01:21 AM
Feb 2016

You might get people thinking there's another Waco fire going on!


rocktivity

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
7. everyone agrees they are coming out unarmed with american flags to meet with dr graham
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 01:36 AM
Feb 2016

all going to bed now

Ford_Prefect

(7,901 posts)
2. Deluded fantasists fed on false history by W. Cleon Skousen and his Koch paid heirs.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 01:21 AM
Feb 2016

I hope they can arrive at a means of coming out of the refuge site alive and un-armed.

Skousen doomed them long ago

http://www.alternet.org/belief/what-link-between-oregon-militiamen-and-mormonism

christx30

(6,241 posts)
12. Guess it's better than
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 02:04 AM
Feb 2016

being shot to death or tackled and forced to the ground. They walk out unarmed in the morning, get into a car, and it's over.
Considering the Phone book length of charges that they are going to be hit with, it's really the best way it could end for all involved.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
21. I was just laughing at the hypocrisy of
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:54 AM
Feb 2016

the wording...."We are not surrendering, we are turning ourselves in."

christx30

(6,241 posts)
22. It is funny.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:32 AM
Feb 2016

But I can kind of understand their slightly twisted reasoning. "I'm doing it on my terms, not theirs."
Trying to keeps some of the power, even if it's an illusion. Because where they're going, they are going to have zero illusions of power for the next 15-20 years.

 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
5. An honest restitution amount...
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 01:32 AM
Feb 2016

that should DEFINITELY a part of their sentence when convicted should include the overall cost of this protracted idiotic farce melodrama. Hundreds of thousands of dollars I would think. Restitution, as a condition of probation or simply as an order of the Court to pay, can be enforced via incarceration and cannot be extinguished through bankruptcy.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
8. Fiore stuck herself in the middle of that breakfast tea party too.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 01:37 AM
Feb 2016

Don't know if the FBI will allow her in though?

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
9. I'm furious with myself.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 01:46 AM
Feb 2016

I clicked and listened for 5 minutes of bullshit. I added to their youtube views which they will call support.

I hope they get the max of whatever charges brought, with little fanfare.

sweetloukillbot

(11,029 posts)
13. Just turned it back on after everything had gotten all calm
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 02:25 AM
Feb 2016

Sounds like it's escalated majorly and will be over soon.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
14. OVER OUR DEAD BODI....wait, you guys have snacks? Ok. We'll come out.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 02:34 AM
Feb 2016

After all, one can only eat so many dildos and drink so much lube.

PoiBoy

(1,542 posts)
17. Who is this Gavin guy...?
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 03:37 AM
Feb 2016

He seems to be a moderator of some sort... running the live stream... He tries to sound moderate, but at the same time he seems to encourage the craziness...














 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
19. Listening now...
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 04:06 AM
Feb 2016

They don't know Cliven Bundy has been arrested at this point.

Yelling hysterically at the FBI, "Go home! You people are traitors! You let Hillary run for President! You let Obama let terrorists into this country!"

Answer from FBI over bullhorn, "I can tell you're talking but I can't hear what you're saying."

 

sylvanus

(122 posts)
26. Isn't this situation, what tear gas is for.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:39 AM
Feb 2016

This thing is only making the FBI look weak, which will insure
that it's going to continue to happen. Crazy white people with guns
can essentially get away with any damn thing, cause, freedom/constitution.

womanofthehills

(8,718 posts)
27. Sean and his wife hysterical now
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 11:40 AM
Feb 2016

Big drama - Sean might have a heart attack. Beyond crazy - they have their guns at their sides and won't put them down.

ananda

(28,866 posts)
28. And they arrested Cliven Bundy also .. at last!
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 11:45 AM
Feb 2016

On weapons and conspiracy charges.

Wow. I hope this is all over now.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
29. "There are thousands that will be with you always..."
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 12:31 PM
Feb 2016


These people are positively puke-inducing. They are domestic terrorists, and should be treated as such, not idolized by Flyover Country.

William Seger

(10,779 posts)
30. Problem is, it's like trying to deal with heavily armed 6-year-olds
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 12:40 PM
Feb 2016

It's hard to expect any good outcome.

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