Oregon standoff: FBI moves in on last refuge occupiers

[Kennah]

Source: Oregonian

BURNS – The FBI on Wednesday evening moved in on the last four occupiers at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, apparently placing armored vehicles around their camp.

A friend of occupier David Fry was streaming on YouTube through an open phone line with the occupiers as authorities made what appeared to be a final push to end the 40-day old occupation.

Besides David Fry, 27, of Ohio, the encampment includes Jeff Banta of Elko, Nevada, and Sean and Sandy Anderson of Riggins, Idaho.

"Come out with your hands up," a law enforcement official was heard saying.

Read more: http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/02/oregon_standoff_fbi_moves_in_o.html

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And so it begins to end.

[underpants]

1. Before even reading this I have to say that the report from local journalists on this has been

OUTSTANDING

[hobbit709]

2. I guess we'll find out just how stupid Dildo Dave and his cohorts are.

[passiveporcupine]

3. Vido of what is happening now live

Assemblywoman Michelle Fiori from Nevada is trying to get involved in negotiating with the FBI. The FBI wants no part of her in this mess. She is a kook. No wonder she is in on this. She is being picked up at Portland airport and driven out to refuge, but that's a long drive.



The occupiers are totally freaked.

They keep saying if the feds tear gas them first it gives them the right to shoot back. Geeze.

Well, I have to give Michelle credit...she is trying to get them to surrender. They said they want no part of it.

Fry is not going to let anyone surrender. He's insisting that they are there to kill them all, and surrender is not an option.

OH dog now Sandy is saying the Bible says we have a right to defend ourselves. (That is the Mormon bible, BTW).

Fry is just off his rocker and I don't think this will end well for him...I just hope he doesn't get them all killed.

[underpants]

20. Did you see that I'm sorta blonde and ....Down here - you see these, right?

[milestogo]

4. I fear bloodshed.

[csziggy]

5. The occupiers are interviewing live stream with Gavin Seim

The woman on there is trying to talk sense into the nuts but they are NOT listening.

It's Michelle Fiore talking to the idiots! She's telling them to tell the FBI to wait until she get there.

[Kennah]

6. They should call Sarah Palin. She's only half nuts.

[byronius]

11. That is a major crazy fest. Serious mental illness in critical mass.

[RKP5637]

12. Yeah, it really is. They sound totally whacked out! n/t

[csziggy]

16. The calmest they get is when the people on the show get them to pray

But they are so mindlessly insane when Fiore was leading the woman in prayer and then went on to try to give her advice the woman was parroting the advice the same way she was the prayer.

This is not going to end well - these people are so crazy. They keep saying "We haven't broken any laws."

It's obvious that the people on the line with the crazies are afraid for them and are trying to calm them down.

[sweetloukillbot]

31. Who is the guy screaming in the background?

Is that Fry?

And Fiore is just as crazy as the terrorists...

[csziggy]

32. I think it's David - Fry, I guess

Fiore is showing how nuts she is. I doubt she is capable of lying just to talk the crazies down.

[sweetloukillbot]

35. I won't let them kill you because then I won't have a chance to hug you n/t

[underpants]

7. The reporting is great. A few whacka doodle quotes. Good grief.

"What do you want?" Fry replied, then yelled, "You guys killed LaVoy" and "You let Obama bring terrorists into our country."

"You promised Franklin Graham you wouldn't do this," Sandy Anderson said.

Fry yelled, "You don't need to go to hell for killing us."

[jwirr]

15. Interesting - Franklin Graham - Billy Graham's son? What is

he doing in this mess.

[underpants]

24. Yes, followed Billy into the family business

He spoke to them

Link

[jwirr]

28. Photo op to show everyone that he is doing good.

[RKP5637]

8. Listening to the cell phone link these people in there are nuts!!! n/t

[RKP5637]

9. The FBI has had amazing restraint in all of this! Extremely well handled by the FBI! n/t

[lastlib]

10. Why wasn't this done Day 2??

[L. Coyote]

13. Fiore should not be trying to delay the FBI action. Time to pray.

David screaming in the background.

[RKP5637]

17. Like they want to come out peacefully. WTF, they could just leave now. Nuts!!! FFS, and now they're

praying for peace. There is peace, just walk out. leave.

[Shrike47]

14. I hope they arrest Fiore. Publicity hound. She is a rude word re: female persons.

[passiveporcupine]

18. Sandy keeps saying

We won't come out without our weapons. Fry had done a good job of brain washing them all into thinking this is just a ploy to get them out to kill them.

[Akamai]

59. I think they know that if they surrender bad things are less likely

But, in their own narrative, they are the good guys. They will keep telling it for a while.

These folks are childish, ill-equipped to survive, and very well represent right wing idiots. They are engaging in magical thinking.

Reminds me of the reported beliefs of conservatives about ten years ago who said that they would never accept welfare, that they would rather live in a tent in a park and trap pigeons to live. Stoopid -- but that's the outcome of magical thinking and an ability to ignore anything you've learned about the real world.

Go Bernie!!!

[L. Coyote]

19. Why isn't America here in force? Because everyone wants you arrested.

[2naSalit]

21. Sounds like the

dildoDave guy is in full on melt down and the others are being held hostage by him. I fear he may kill everybody himself.

[underpants]

22. "The Bible says we have the right to defend ourselves"

The media has stopped reporting on this because it is way too on the nose for the whole right wing

[RKP5637]

27. Exactly, a window into the minds of the RW. n/t

[NRaleighLiberal]

42. which really explains a lot!

[RKP5637]

44. Yep! Now, I know why I have a headache!

[passiveporcupine]

50. They are talking about the Mormon Bible

That says it all.

[passiveporcupine]

23. Damn they are getting worked up

And they may shoot Fry themselves just to get him to shut up. He won't stop shouting at the FBI on his bullhorn.

Fiori is telling them the FBI is trying to make them fearful. Fiori is so on their side about this whole thing is just sickening.

It's not the FBI who is trying to create fear...it's FRY. And he has convinced them that going to jail is not acceptable. Death is preferable.

[Volaris]

58. death is preferable.

I'm hearing in my head
--Three Musketeers--
Tim Curry as Cardinal Richelieu

"That can BE ARRANGED!!!!"

cant find the clip sorry

[NRaleighLiberal]

25. this must be what utter, total insanity sounds like. creepy beyond belief.

[Grassy Knoll]

26. Now I lay me down to...

[Lil Missy]

29. It's about time! Throw everyone of those assholes in jail and throw away the key.

[passiveporcupine]

30. Sandy keeps saying

No...I'm not going to jail. They are evil and I am not putting myself into their hands. They are going to kill us. They need to stand down and back off.

These guys are so delusional, nobody can talk sense to them because they are not in a state to accept "sense".

[vanamonde]

33. Maybe instead of tear gas the FBI should use that secret weapon I keep hearing about

that makes you shit your pants. Keep it on all the time.

[HubertHeaver]

46. adamsite

[Joe Shlabotnik]

47. Billy Ray Cyrus' music?

[NRaleighLiberal]

34. "I can't have you dying because I never got to hug you". WTF?

[world wide wally]

36. They're not just sick...they're stupid too

Bad combination
Reminds me of some drunken domestic squabbles I was unfortunate enough to witness

[2naSalit]

37. scared and cold too.

This is almost like listening to a really bad cover of FireSign Theater.

[NRaleighLiberal]

38. everything being said has already been said dozens and dozens of times. this is now like a bad trip

(not that I've ever been on one!).

Whoops...prayer time. Shhhh....

[icymist]

39. Yeah, Franklin Graham keeps praying to God to confuse the wicked...

And then the four of them get more confusing.

[2naSalit]

48. ...

[greyl]

52. I think Gavin was the pray-er.

The one running the conference feed.

[ebayfool]

56. Gawd already answered their prayers - she sent the FBI!

[2naSalit]

40. It's like

a bad trip while trapped in front of a teevee stuck on the 700 Club who had produced its first soap.

[NRaleighLiberal]

41. They are all speaking Palinese.

[sweetloukillbot]

43. Wow. Even Fiore is getting annoyed at them. n/t

[2naSalit]

49. I hope this one haunts her

for a long time. She might be facing charges by the time it's over.

[Judi Lynn]

61. She needs to answer to someone. She's irresponsible, and far out of line.

It's no way for anyone in her position to operate and keep her job.

[2naSalit]

68. She needs to reprimanded at the very least

But I think she needs some serious consequences in her immediate future.

[Tarc]

45. To be honest, with all the election stuff ramping up into high gear

I'd completely gotten that this was still going on.

These sad, sad little Tea Party lunatics thought they were going to dominate the 24/7 cable media for months, and in the end they petered out into a social media laughingstock, 1 dead terrorist in the Oregon snow, and four dudes huddled in a dark shack eating beef jerky.

Good flippin riddance.

[davidpdx]

51. I am glad this is finally over

It will be nice for the employees to go back to work. They are going to have a lot of shit to clean up though. I'm waiting to see what charges are put on those who did this.

[zeemike]

53. I don't understand why they still have electricity

And utilities and food.
Seems to me if the FBI wanted to end it they would have cut them off and it would have been over when they ran out of snakes and the batteries on the dildos ran down.
This whole thing has been strange like that,,,as if they were afraid to cause them any discomfort.

[phantom power]

69. They couldn't cut electric without cutting electric to other local residents.

Something about how the local circuits were set up.

Regarding the rest, I never really understood why the FBI didn't blockade the roads immediately. They allowed people to come and go at will for several weeks.

[passiveporcupine]

54. So now they are going off about how everyone is trying to take their guns away

This is a perfect example of how silly this argument is. They have their guns with them, and what good are they dong them? They freely admit that the FBI has enough firepire to take them out right now. Their guns are only keeping them prisoner longer and extending this whole thing.

Private guns will never protect us from the government again. The private guns are like pee shooters compared to our military.

If anything their guns will get them killed, not save them.

[2naSalit]

55. Now they're getting trolled!

[passiveporcupine]

57. This is the Gavin Seim on the phone with Sandy

His web site
http://callmegav.com/

[Judi Lynn]

60. My ears! The Sharp Family Singers (Bundy Singers) are singing. They sound like dental drills.

Oh, my god.

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[sweetloukillbot]

62. Is anyone still listening? This is getting scary.

It doesn't sound like it's going to end peacefully with them turning themselves in tomorrow.

[Judi Lynn]

63. Just saw your post, started listening again.Have only been here long enough to hear someone shouting

and swearing a lot, and the sound of a voice farther away.

Thanks for the heads-up.

[sweetloukillbot]

64. They're sounding desperate and crazy

Pretty much as soon as they relaxed the FBI moved in. AND they just nabbed Cliven in Portland.

[sweetloukillbot]

65. Apparently it's not live anymore - somehow my youtube stream jumped back in it.

So we're in the dark till the morning.

[Judi Lynn]

66. Rats. I hadn't caught that, yet.Just heard a string of swearing, with Sean calling the FBI spokesman

a Piece of ####, and the rest. Started thinking it was time for the idiot winger preacher to suggest he pray again.
"You ####ing idiot," and claims they were going to kill him.

If this is not live now, I'll go, too.

These people are loathesome. How can anyone live like that?

Thanks.

[rockfordfile]

67. The right wing media creates idiots like these people

The right wing media creates idiots like these people and the nra loves them. They are domestic terrorist.

[Babel_17]

70. They're uninformed, and very scared

They don't want to go to jail, and they think (not without at least a bit of evidence) that holding their ground can get them some concessions. They're waiting for The Wizard to say "No Jail Time for thee", because that's how they think. They think in terms of shadowy powers controlling things, and themselves as populist heroes, like in the movies.

They needed to better remember the fate of many of those movie outlaw heroes.

Well, maybe their lawyer can truthfully plead them out based on diminished faculties.

P.S. Listened to some of that youtube stuff, and that's a lot of ranting. Are they on meth?

[Oneironaut]

71. I have to give Fiore and the others on the phone some credit.

I know. "Barf!" right? Listening last night, these people were about ready to commit suicide by cop. They were at least talked out of it and are still alive. Now a peaceful end is becoming more and more likely. I truly believe that, without outside phone contact, everybody occupying that building would have been dead. Nobody else needs to die.