Clinton likely to leave New Hampshire with same number of delegates as Sanders
Source: The Hill
Hillary Clinton is expected to leave New Hampshire with just as many delegates as Bernie Sanders, even after he crushed her in Tuesday’s presidential primary.
Sanders won 15 delegates with his 20-point victory Tuesday while Clinton won nine.
But Clinton came into the contest with the support of six superdelegates, who are state party insiders given the freedom to support any candidate they choose.
Superdelegate support is fluid, though, so some of those delegates now backing Clinton could switch to Sanders before the Democratic National Convention in late July.
But as it stands, the superdelegate support gives Clinton a total of 15 New Hampshire delegates.
Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/268935-clinton-likely-to-leave-nh-with-same-number-of-delegates
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HooptieWagon
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raindaddy
(1,370 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)raindaddy
(1,370 posts)Been there..
GitRDun
(1,846 posts)They hold elected office too.
If Bernie continues on his current path, the defections will ultimately appear.
Most hold elected office too.
xocet
(3,871 posts)
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)um yeah 4 delegate difference 8 delegates are still gonna have to go at the beginning of March for Omalley for which it's like caucusing the two sides will vie for those 8 and odds are they'll go for sanders and thus win iowa. ie a long long contest which is actually a good thing the shorter it is the worse it is for dems
GreydeeThos
(958 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Which one?
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Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)Because Baby Boom Democrats are terrified of the word "socialists", they will do ANYTHING, even cheat, to make sure Bernie is not the nominee. All Bernie has to do is repeat is that his views were completely mainstream in the Democratic Party 40 years ago, but ironically because of guys like Bill Clinton, the party has been taken so far right that he is called a "radical." Bernie should also keep saying that all he wants to do is bring the party back to its glorious roots of FDR, JFK, and LBJ.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,014 posts)its glorious roots of FDR, JFK, and LBJ."
greymouse
(872 posts)Ageism has no place here or anywhere.
signed,
Baby Boomer for Bernie.
GummyBearz
(2,931 posts)I know generalizations suck when you don't fit into one though. As I've been told on race issues "the comment was only directed to the bigoted white people. If you're not bigoted then you can ignore it".... never made me feel any better, so I get where you are coming from.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"If you're not bigoted then you can ignore it".... never made me feel any better, so I get where you are coming from."
I too often maintain the pretense of martyrdom when convenient to my bias.
GummyBearz
(2,931 posts)Maybe you are saying you can ignore generalizations? And like to call people who don't like generalizations martyrs when its brought up that not everyone fits into a stereotype? An odd position for a liberal....
trillion
(1,859 posts)Glad you are for Bernie. I'm gen x and my group is still far more Hillary than Bernie. It's embarrassing. I'm for Bernie of course.
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)Another baby boomer for Bernie
trillion
(1,859 posts)Hillary supporters will cheer and embrace the unfairness(shows their integrity) but, heck they're voting for Wall Street anyway which shows their integrity. In the end it likely won't stop Bernie.
Unlike Hillary, Bernie supporters will not change sides in this. Many Hillary supporters will become informed and switch to Bernie. That's what has been happening with Bernies growing numbers. Those were Hillary supporter. They won't be going back to her.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,014 posts)trillion
(1,859 posts)The cool thing about the Hillary supporters embracing this unfairness is it shows they're scared and desperate. So desperate they think it's great to cheat. And those super delegates are in there on purpose because the Dem party wants the establishment to have a say in who gets to run. Democracy Now covered this yesterday. I doubt any Hillary Supporter watch Democracy Now, though. They'd be be able to name all the places she contradicts her record and wouldn't be able to get though her campaign speeches.
scottie55
(1,400 posts)Or their political careers will be over.
Pretty simple.
As others have said, disregard super delegate numbers till the time comes.
Hillary has been touting them to prop up her campaign.
They will have to switch to the nominee.
dubyadiprecession
(5,714 posts)15 delegates is what she can expect.
Next time us Democrats along with Democratic Socialist might lose to a Democratic Liberterian. The establishment seems to let anyone run in our caucus's and primaries. Hey Rand! Can't win in the Republican primaries? Come on over, but first tweek your party label to include the word "Democratic"!
7962
(11,841 posts)
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)Elite party insiders will negate the will of the people. Yeah, that will drum up a lot of support in the GE. These sorts of smarmy political moves will cost the Democrats dearly. If they pull this shit, you can say farewell to the White House and the Congress for eight years and five Supreme Court justices. But Hillary will have had her moment in the sun, and for the Clinton gang, that's all that matters.
shadowwinds
(22 posts)Sanders 151,584 60%
Clinton 95,252 38%
Trump 100,406 35%
Kasich 44,909 16%
Cruz 33,189 12%
Bush 31,310 11%
As these total votes show SANDERS got more than Trump AND Kasich together!!!!!
But all we're hearing is how great Kasich is.
Sanders got more than 3x what Kasich got!
If this were the election SANDERS would have it by a landslide.
Pass these on to everyone you can.
These total votes tell a complelety different tale than just the percentages alone.
My local paper, The TampaBay Times, ran a two-inch headline: Trump wins N.H!
It was followed by a big picture of Trump & Bush and Rubio.
Then a row of small pictures of the rest of the Rethugs. Carson was last with 2% and THEN Bernie next to him with 60% followed by Hiliary 39%.
I couldn't believe how they used pictures to DISTORT the outcome!!!!!!
SOURCE
http://www.wmur.com/politics/2016-full-new-hampshire-presidential-primary-election-results/37649066
greymouse
(872 posts)You'd think there hadn't even been a Democratic primary the first day or so.
valerief
(53,235 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)about helping the poor. It you support Goldman-Sachs' Cllinton, you must not care about the lower classes.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Instead of actually discussing the issue they wanted to censor. I would hope all "politically liberal" DU posters would choose to argue in lieu of censor.
You can't support the Wealthy 1% and say you empathize with the poor.
See more: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511204013
Gothmog
(145,320 posts)Bernin
(311 posts)Hillary will split the party.
This is what it looks like in real time.
Way to go Hillary.
Your legacy has already started.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)to remember the NV caucus from 2008 where Hillary won the most votes but walked away with fewer delegates. I remember it clearly, my mother left the Democratic party over it. But now the rules suck because you're at the receiving end of those ridiculous rules. Well, that's how Hillary supporters in 2008 felt - welcome to the party and feel free to link me where you were whining about the rules and claiming then Sen Obama was splitting the party apart back then.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada_Democratic_caucuses,_2008
bravenak
(34,648 posts)The rules screwed her last time and she is working her butt off to make sure it doesn't happen again.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)who doesn't have a gnat like memory for these things. It's only now that some want to whine about the rules - when it hurts their candidate but were perfectly happy with Hillary getting screwed last time because they don't like her. I have no patience for such people. I sucked it up - campaigned, sent money and voted for Pres Obama because I know it's much too important to let the cons get the shot at replacing judges on the federal level.
scuciti
(33 posts)The New Hampshire Super delegates are -
Joanne Dowdell[91] NH DNC
Maggie Hassan[120] NH Gov Clinton
Ann Kuster[144] NH Rep.
Billy Shaheen[91] NH DNC
Jeanne Shaheen[18] NH Sen.
Kathy Sullivan[91] NH DNC
I truly think Sanders should get the majority of these, or the democratic party primaries are a sham. How can the governor of NH vote against the majority of democrats in her state?
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)Dont sound like that "Crushing Defeat" that the Old White Dude Claims! and this is his highest hopes of all the Primaries.
Vinca
(50,278 posts)I'd never given it much thought before, but if super delegates can have as much power as the number of people it makes to create a 22 point win in an election, it doesn't seem right. What happens if we get to the end and the rank and file vote is emphatically for one candidate, but the super delegates have the power to give the nomination to the other candidate?
mpcamb
(2,871 posts)Some of us might have something we'd like to say to them.
