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L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 12:45 PM Feb 2016

Rolly: Ammon Bundy’s handiwork behind anti-BLM fire video

Source: By PAUL ROLLY The Salt Lake Tribune

I wrote last week about a video posted on Facebook by the American Lands Council (ALC) that alleges the Bureau of Land Management deliberately started fires, then carelessly let them rage out of control, killing livestock and destroying ranchers' property in Oregon.

The video was misleading, since news stories and subsequent BLM reports of the 2012 blaze show it was lightning-caused, fueled by heavy dry underbrush and desperately fought by federal, state and area firefighters.

Here's the rest of the story: It was a rip-off of a heavily edited propaganda video produced in December by Ammon Bundy.

Read more: http://www.sltrib.com/news/3504080-155/rolly-ammon-bundys-handiwork-behind-anti-blm



Does "... a heavily edited propaganda video ..." sound familiar?

And "produced in December by Ammon Bundy" could indicate conspiracy between these political actors before the #OregonStandoff in January.

Sounds like the pay for this stuff is really great, six figures a year for upper management.
Ivory got $135K in 2014 ... nice paycheck, all very legal (inciting terrorism not included).
Job description: Steal 50% of the land in the West under color of law
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Cornelia ?@PaladinCornelia Feb 3
Hope when I come home from work tonight, the #Oregonstandoff is over without bloodshed. I want the usual crowd back.


Interesting to observe Twitter Live feed on #OregonStandoff, with people around the world paying attention to America on display, a weirder than weird reality T-V show of sorts.

Петра вилшенко @petvillka1992
#OregonStandoff I think the most disturbing examples of #SovereignCitizen writings are those that show signs of full paranoid schizophrenia.

Joe King ?@TheSmartAssery Retweeted Петра вилшенко
Sorry, Petra, in the US we give schizophrenic #SovereignCitizens radio shows: Alex Jones, Mark Levin #OregonStandoff


As we observe refuge holdout Fry's delusional thinking on YouTube, it is time to ponder the consequences of hate speech and propaganda on society. To what extent are we allowing dystopian bullhorns to distort reality? That is their intention, huge sums of money are spent, slick hired guns are spinning the truth and manipulating politics in one of the biggest cons ever run in world history. Consider if you will, what is half of the West worth? A greater loss would be the liberty and freedom we enjoy when society is not polluted by hatred.
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Rolly: Ammon Bundy’s handiwork behind anti-BLM fire video (Original Post) L. Coyote Feb 2016 OP
More proof of the money behind Wellstone ruled Feb 2016 #1
K&R jwirr Feb 2016 #2
Check out the Salt City Tribune today. Wellstone ruled Feb 2016 #3
Relatives through marriage and church. That should not jwirr Feb 2016 #6
The comments are enlightening. The #BundyTeaParty is just one front in a larger political war. L. Coyote Feb 2016 #7
Used to live in Southern Utah, Wellstone ruled Feb 2016 #11
The sltrib page doesn't open for me AnotherDreamWeaver Feb 2016 #4
Try this link: L. Coyote Feb 2016 #5
That comments page opened AnotherDreamWeaver Feb 2016 #13
There's a link back in the comments page that works for me. L. Coyote Feb 2016 #14
I've really tried, but can't detect any bone in my body concerned with Bundy's concerns. WhiteHat Feb 2016 #8
Yep, it's a straight-up land grab William Seger Feb 2016 #9
The genocide in Rwanda was fueled by hate radio. alfredo Feb 2016 #10
Here, the hate radio is directed at liberal candidates and office holders. L. Coyote Feb 2016 #12
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
1. More proof of the money behind
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 01:17 PM
Feb 2016

these so called Fakereot's. Anyone fimiliar with the Theocracy of Utah recognize the name Ken Ivory and his Land Councils or what ever the flavor of the month they call themselves,and their game plan. It's all about claiming rights to Federal Lands for Development. These people are living in the way back zone,having their State buy a Sea Port to export Coal,spending 14 million of Taxpayer dollars to fund these so called Take back the land councils. Utah State EQB that regulates pollution,has a carve out to protect four Refineries in the Salt City Area from over site.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
3. Check out the Salt City Tribune today.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 01:51 PM
Feb 2016

Read the Comments section if you have time. People name the real players behind the Bundy farce. BTW,relatives through marriage and church.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
6. Relatives through marriage and church. That should not
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 02:44 PM
Feb 2016

surprise us at all if you mean the bundy family. Mormons have intermarried from the beginning.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
7. The comments are enlightening. The #BundyTeaParty is just one front in a larger political war.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 02:59 PM
Feb 2016

Here's one:

Michael Bodell • 3 hours ago
Ivory, Noel, Stewart, Bishop and the rest of the right wing nativist thugs are playing a very dangerous game that could get people killed. Living in Southern Utah these days, I am shocked at the nasty and irrational, anti-fed hyperbole that has spread like wildfire. These irresponsible and reckless elected officials are creating a seditious, heavily armed and potentially violent atmosphere that had better be walked back before another person dies. The blood will be on their greedy, rotten hands.


Gotta give a nod to elijah2, asst treasurer of the The LaVoy Finicum Died For You Society, for this advice: "LaVoy always said he didn't wish to be a martyr. Please honor his wishes and forget all about him."
And for giving the world "Snacklish". That needs to be a hashtag: #Snacklish the moran's guide to RWNJ grammar and spelling.

58pumkinrider Jack E Raynbeau • an hour ago
Be sure to put all your crimes on social media, the prosecuting attorney thanks you. Has any one ever seen a dumber bunch of law breakers?

Meanwhile, back on Twitter:

Jeanne ?@SDSunchaser 3 hours ago
I keep wondering how fast it would have been over if #militia had occupied Mt. Rushmore in my state? #Oregonstandoff

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
11. Used to live in Southern Utah,
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:42 PM
Feb 2016

know many of these Players and their extended Clans. Just caught a story on Bloomberg about the head of the CIA and FBI are aware of and the new threat being these Militia Groups and they feel these groups are a more serious threat than any other groups in the world.

 

WhiteHat

(129 posts)
8. I've really tried, but can't detect any bone in my body concerned with Bundy's concerns.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 03:17 PM
Feb 2016

So... a few under-educated, gun-loving, socially isolated, relatively wealthy ranchers want to claim more land/wealth for themselves at the expense of every other American. Is that it?

If so, that's a fail.

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
9. Yep, it's a straight-up land grab
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 03:19 PM
Feb 2016

... welfare for the greedy, for the squaters and freeloaders who think the world owes them a living and that people with guns have more rights than others.

Did Bundy ever get around to explaining which patriotic ranchers, loggers, and miners would get to destroy the wildlife refuge by converting its resources into private wealth? Was he claiming it, or was he going to divvy it out himself, or maybe have a good old-fashioned land rush with pickups, or maybe since they had all those guns handy anyway, a good old-fashioned range war?

alfredo

(60,074 posts)
10. The genocide in Rwanda was fueled by hate radio.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 03:38 PM
Feb 2016
http://www.rwandanstories.org/genocide/hate_radio.html

In June 1993 a new radio station called Radio-Television Libre des Mille Collines (RTLMC) began broadcasting in Rwanda…

The station was rowdy and used street language - there were disc jockeys, pop music and phone-ins. Sometimes the announcers were drunk. It was designed to appeal to the unemployed, the delinquents and the gangs of thugs in the militia. “In a largely illiterate population, the radio station soon had a very large audience who found it immensely entertaining.” (Linda Melvern)


SNIP

RTLM was set up and financed by hard-line Hutu extremists, mostly from northern Rwanda: wealthy businessmen, government ministers and various relatives of the President. Its backers also included the directors of two African banks and the vice-president of the interahamwe (militia).

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
12. Here, the hate radio is directed at liberal candidates and office holders.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 06:03 PM
Feb 2016

No need to wonder what they are hoping some lunatic does. Do some people want to provoke the crazies to kill others? Or incite the craziest people to terrorize others, ends justifying the means type of irrationality? It appears so.



Cheri Roberts @CTRNewsFeed
.@KGWNews doesn't mention 1x that #DavidFRy called for violence against EVERYONE that wasn't a christian patriot gun owner. #Oregonstandoff

Maybe Bundy was spreading the Koch propaganda; I won't conclude Bundy is the author given who is also spreading same.

JR N ?@JRN2053 1 hour ago
Koch-backed lobbying group is spreading Ammon Bundy’s lies — misspellings and all
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/koch-backed-lobbying-group-is-spreading-ammon-bundys-lies-misspellings-and-all/
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