Bill Clinton, After Months of Restraint, Unleashes Stinging Attack on Bernie Sanders
Source: New York Times
MILFORD, N.H. Bill Clinton uncorked an extended attack on Senator Bernie Sanders on Sunday, harshly criticizing Mr. Sanders and his supporters for what he described as inaccurate and sexist attacks on Hillary Clinton.
When youre making a revolution you cant be too careful with the facts, Mr. Clinton said, deriding Mr. Sanderss oft-mentioned call for a political revolution.
Full article at the link.
Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/08/us/politics/bill-clinton-after-months-of-restraint-unleashes-stinging-attack-on-bernie-sanders.html
Deja vu all over again.
delrem
(9,688 posts)It's totally a family thing with the Clintons and I can understand that.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)he slept out in the doghouse enough already in the '90s.
trillion
(1,859 posts)I am a woman and I appreciate it not to be played everytime someone disagrees with Hillary. Or, for why we should vote for her.
Omaha Steve
(99,638 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)TPP.
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JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)I can"t believe he has lost it to this degree.
Hillary must be losing faster than webthought. She does not fathom the despair that so many people feel about their economic futures and the present.
She does not understand how utterly turned off voters are by the role of big money in politics.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)wildbilln864
(13,382 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)never seen what happened to the rest of us. She really thinks that women from the 99% are doing just fine and only care about having a woman in the WH.
Hillary wake up.
trillion
(1,859 posts)on internet for decades now. They are no uninfomed. At least half anyway.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)She doesn't fathom the anger, either.
And it's not just the role of big money in politics, it's everything.
A degree that doesn't guarantee security, a house that's underwater, a family you can't afford to provide for, a job that doesn't pay enough to be comfortable, a planet that's totally screwed....
It's everything.
The Clintons are completely out of touch. HRC is tone deaf and just doesn't get how big money has corrupted EVERYTHING and how much, how devastatingly people are affected, esp those of us who do not get 6 figures for a bullshit speech.
Using Bill as her surrogate hatchet man undermines her alleged ability to handle whatever the repukes throw at her and completely demeans him
bklyncowgirl
(7,960 posts)I will say this about Bill. He delivers an attack with a smile on his face and a machete in his hand. He is the best.
I also don't think this will make much difference.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)delivered in the embrace of a man thought to be an ally.
bklyncowgirl
(7,960 posts)This country has never been the same.
polly7
(20,582 posts)NAFTA Is Starving Mexico
Posted by polly7 in General Discussion
Thu Oct 20th 2011, 09:40 AM
NAFTA Is Starving Mexico
By Laura Carlsen, October 20, 2011
http://www.fpif.org/articles/nafta_is_star...
"Since the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) became the law of the land, millions of Mexicans have joined the ranks of the hungry. Malnutrition is highest among the countrys farm families, who used to produce enough food to feed the nation.
As the blood-spattered violence of the drug war takes over the headlines, many Mexican men, women, and children confront the slow and silent violence of starvation. The latest reports show that the number of people living in food poverty (the inability to purchase the basic food basket) rose from 18 million in 2008 to 20 million by late 2010.
About one-fifth of Mexican children currently suffer from malnutrition. An innovative measurement applied by the National Institute for Nutrition registers a daily count of 728,909 malnourished children under five for October 18, 2011. Government statistics report that 25 percent of the population does not have access to basic food."
Thanks to NAFTA, Conditions for Mexican Factory Workers Like Rosa Moreno Are Getting Worse
Texas Observer / By Melissa del Bosque
The difficult and dangerous working conditions that Rosa and at least 1.3 million other Mexican workers endure were supposed to get better. They didn't.
Photo Credit: Alan Pogue
December 11, 2013 |
.... On this night, Feb. 19, 2011, she couldnt shake the feeling that something was wrong, a premonition that perhaps she shouldnt go. But she needed the money. It was the final shift in her six-day workweek, and if she missed a day, the factory would dock her 300 pesos. She couldnt afford to lose that kind of money. Her family already struggled to survive on the 1,300 pesos (about $100) a week she earned. Unable to shake the bad feeling, shed already missed her bus, and now shed have to pay for a taxi. But the thought of losing 300 pesos was worse. She had to go. Rosa kissed her six children goodnight and set out across town.
In the Mexican border city of Reynosa, the hundreds of maquiladoras that produce everything from car parts to flat-screen televisions run day and night365 days a yearto feed global demand. Rosa worked from 10 p.m. to 7 a.m. at a factory called HD Electronics in a sprawling maquiladora park near the international bridge that links Reynosa, an industrial city of 600,000, to Pharr, Texas. Like the 90,000 or more workers in Reynosa, the 38-year-old Rosa depended on these factories for her livelihood. In the 11 years since she moved to the city, she had welded circuitry for Asian and European cell phone companies, assembled tubing for medical IV units to be shipped over the border to the United States, and worked on a production line assembling air conditioners for General Motors.
This was her second month at HD Electronics, a South Korean firm that had moved to Reynosa in 2006 to produce the metal backing for flat-screen televisions made by another South Korean firm, LG Electronicsa $49 billion corporation. LG also has a plant in Reynosa and could scarcely keep up with the North American demand for its plasma and LCD televisions.
At HD Electronics, Rosa operated a 200-ton hydraulic stamping press. Every night, six days a week, she fed the massive machine thin aluminum sheets. The machine ran all day, every day. Each time the press closed it sounded like a giant hammer striking metal: thwack, thwack, thwack. The metal sheets emerged pierced and molded into shape for each model and size of television. At the factory, 20 women, including Rosa, worked the presses to make the pieces for the smaller televisions. Nearby were 10 larger presses, each of which took two men to operate, to make backings for the giant-screen models.
Full Article: http://www.alternet.org/labor/after-20-years-nafta-thanks-nafta-what-happened-mexican-factory-workers-rosa-moreno?akid=11305.44541.10ylde&rd=1&src=newsletter939436&t=21
How NAFTA Drove Mexicans into Poverty and Sparked the Zapatista Revolt
By EDELO, Creative Time Reports
The North American Free Trade Agreement, passed 20 years ago, has resulted in increased emigration, hunger and poverty (with Video)
December 30, 2013
In light of the 20th anniversary of NAFTAs implementation and the Zapatista uprising, we set out to explore both the positive and negative effects of the international treaty. The poverty caused by NAFTA, and the waves of violence, forced migration and environmental disasters it has precipitated, should not be understated. The republic of Mexico is under threat from multinational corporations like the Canadian mining company Blackfire Explorations, which is threatening to sue the state of Chiapas for $800 million under NAFTA Chapter 11 because its government closed a Blackfire barite mine after pressure from local environmental activists like Mariano Abarca Roblero, who was murdered in 2009.
Still, one result of the corporate extraction of Mexicos natural resources and displacement of its people that has followed the treaty has been the organization and strengthening of initiatives by indigenous communities to construct autonomy from the bottom up. Seeing that their own governments cannot respond to popular demands without retribution from corporations, the people of Mexico are asking about alternatives: What is it that we do want? The Zapatista revolution reminds us that not only another world, but many other worlds, are possible
Full Article: http://www.alternet.org/world/how-nafta-drove-mexicans-poverty-and-sparked-zapatista-revolt?akid=11347.44541.RWB6aQ&rd=1&src=newsletter941851&t=19
Drug War Mexico, NAFTA and Why People Leave -
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)UpInArms
(51,284 posts)and letting them repeal Glass-Steagall
An agreement between the Clinton administration and congressional Republicans, reached during all-night negotiations which concluded in the early hours of October 22, sets the stage for passage of the most sweeping banking deregulation bill in American history, lifting virtually all restraints on the operation of the giant monopolies which dominate the financial system.
The proposed Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 would do away with restrictions on the integration of banking, insurance and stock trading imposed by the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933, one of the central pillars of Roosevelt's New Deal. Under the old law, banks, brokerages and insurance companies were effectively barred from entering each others' industries, and investment banking and commercial banking were separated.
The certain result of repeal of Glass-Steagall will be a wave of mergers surpassing even the colossal combinations of the past several years. The Wall Street Journal wrote, "With the stroke of the president's pen, investment firms like Merrill Lynch & Co. and banks like Bank of America Corp., are expected to be on the prowl for acquisitions." The financial press predicted that the most likely mergers would come from big banks acquiring insurance companies, with John Hancock, Prudential and The Hartford all expected to be targeted.
Kenneth Guenther, executive vice president of Independent Community Bankers of America, an association of small rural banks which opposed the bill, warned, "This is going to begin a wave of major mergers and acquisitions in the financial-services industry. We're moving to an oligopolistic situation."
One such merger was already carried out well before the passage of the legislation, the $72 billion deal which brought together Citibank, the biggest New York bank, and Travelers Group Inc., the huge insurance and financial services conglomerate, which owns Salomon Smith Barney, a major brokerage. That merger was negotiated despite the fact that the merged company, Citigroup, was in violation of the Glass-Steagall Act, because billionaire Travelers boss Sanford Weill and Citibank CEO John Reed were confident of bipartisan support for repeal of the 60-year-old law.
greymouse
(872 posts)First Gloria Steinem infuriates half or more of the Democratic women in the country, and now this. Bernie has displayed class. Now Hillary is wallowing in the gutter. The headline should have been:
"Serial adulterer who managed to "earn" over $100 million dollars after the White House calls Bernie Sanders dishonest."
And note the Times presenting this as Bill's previous behavior was "restraint." The Times has thrown objectivity overboard. I expected a lot better from them.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)It was so predictable, too. The White House must be screaming in agony. Not just because Hillary is repeating her 08 errors, so is Bill.
Bohunk68
(1,364 posts)Divernan
(15,480 posts)houston16revival
(953 posts)He's on both sides of everything
Which plays the percentages and gives him more clout
The 1990s are so, so passe now
If Hillary thinks we're going back there, she's as crazy as he is.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)So believable, so relatable.....
Bill & Hillary, not so much The Titans as Team Titanic.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)Milford is in the southern end of NH. It's urban and suburban. Lumberjacks haven't been there for at least a century or more. Regular guys in that neck wear business suits.
Note to any politicians sucking around for NH votes: If you must wear what you've been told is the local costume, at least don't wear one that looks like one of your staffer bought it yesterday at a high end boutique. Even well heeled Graniteheads wear the shit out of their clothes.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)i.e., "wear the shit out of their clothes", I couldn't agree more.
And this is true of wealthy people, whether inheriting wealth or earning it on their own, who are secure in their own identities. I'm talking about people who have a healthy self-confidence to be judged on their personalities, values, actions and behaviors - not on wearing a new, designer outfit for every public appearance, too much designer jewelry, too much makeup, obscenely priced hair-do's, etc.
Vance Packard talked about this half a century ago in his book, The Pyramid Climbers (1962). To wit, it's nouveau riche, social-climbing women who replace their entire wardrobes twice a year, wear too much/flashy jewelry, spend $1200 on having their hair done, etc. Sound like anyone in the news lately?
sarge43
(28,941 posts)The old established families, Clarkes, Barletts, don't flaunt it. 'Taint fittin'.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)what Bernie does - he does not want us to see the put on personality but instead to hear his ideas on the issues. He is not winning us by hiding behind a false image.
Thank you.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)Sanders' rumpled suit. Yeah, he's New England; rumpled is our default. Get a clue.
wildbilln864
(13,382 posts)stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Sanders has with Wall Street, by Sanders rules to avoid the Wall Street connection there will have to be a write in candidate.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Shall we get into that territory in detail? Bill seems to be asking for that. Not sure your cohort would much enjoy it.
I think it was better when she was running. With him running we get to talk about his Double Standards worthy of Newt Gingrich.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)greymouse
(872 posts)How much has Bernie received from, say, Goldman Sachs. They tell us how much Hillary, Bill, and Chelsea have.
It's pathetic to see a Democratic candidate resort to smears.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)And a part of the establishment while having been fund raising with the same company Goldman Sachs is an attempt at smearing. If Sanders is going to determine the rules he needs to be apart from the things he is including in his set of rules, his rules applies to himself also.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,014 posts)supporters are really just there to meet guys.
Then I read that Madeleine Albright says that there is a special place in Hell for women that don't vote for women.
Now the Big Dog himself impunes Sanders for playing fast and loose with facts and anti- female tactics.
Does this signal some desperation in the Clinton campaign? Or just coincidence and 'tin ears'.
chwaliszewski
(1,514 posts)I heard her middle name was Not-At. All seriousness aside, according to her reasoning, all of the guys should be voting for Bernie as well.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)Botany
(70,508 posts)Feel the bern.
Locrian
(4,522 posts)When you could still hide your corporate masters - and when the dems were playing the good cop / bad cop routine with the gop - Bill looked like someone you could at least count on to "appear" to stand up to the gop.
Now with hindsight we have the nafta, glass steagall, speeches etc.
Bernie makes them all out to be what they are: corporate stooges, better on social policy - but lock step with the corporations/wallstreet.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)You "feel our pain" and then fk us over with Third-way crap. Been there, done that.
I just donated to Bernie again.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)This report bodes very ill for the reality and morale of Hillary's campaign - Bill unable to attract de minimis audience or press coverage - his standard praise of Hillary degenerates into a long, unscripted, angry, rambling rant. I was a guest at his first inauguration and heard him speak then - we had such high hopes. And once during his first term, pre-Monica, I was in Istanbul and turned on BBC in my hotel room and saw an interview he did on some international matter and was so proud to have such a well-spoken president with so many facts at his finger tips. Talk about one's hero having feet of clay.
As to "a few hundred supporters", that depends on what the meaning of "supporters" is. I am as far from a "supporter" of either Clinton as it is possible to be, but if he were to show up at my local junior high for a free event (as opposed to his wife's visit to my community for a $1,000 to get in the door, $2700 per photo event at a nearby gated estate), I would definitely drive 1/2 a mile to see a former president and hear him speak, in hope and anticipation of exactly what happened - he went off script and let it all hang out, like he did in the final throes of her 2008 campaign. This is an historic time, for sure.
Mr. Clinton discussed the race for nearly 50 minutes, and his comments took on a harder edge the longer he spoke. What began as a testimonial to Mrs. Clintons leadership and a statesmanlike lecture on her approach to issues evolved into an angrier recitation of grievances against Mr. Sanders and his fervent supporters.
The appearance by Mr. Clinton, absent the entourage and crowds that usually surround the former president, was striking and somewhat poignant, and it felt far apart from the frenzied final campaigning happening around the state on Sunday. The junior high schools small gym was not full, and only a handful of reporters showed up, at a time when campaign events are being flooded with dozens of national and international journalists.
But with Mrs. Clinton in Flint, Mich., and other Clinton staffers absorbed in the primary, Mr. Clinton seemed almost on his own: He was introduced by a local mayor and Larry Lucchino, the former chief executive of the Boston Red Sox.
chwaliszewski
(1,514 posts)First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
Mahatma Gandhi
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)I still can't believe that a couple like them with an obviously open marriage and clearly freewheeling sexual values had the unmitigated gall to tout DOMA and sacred marriages.
Won't vote for the DOMA crowd unless this Party forces me to and in that case I will not forgive this Party until they make up for that shitty behavior, this preservation of the bigoted past.
pengu
(462 posts)The junior high schools small gym was not full, and only a handful of reporters showed up, at a time when campaign events are being flooded with dozens of national and international journalists.
Vinca
(50,273 posts)It didn't have much to do with revolution, though. LOL.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)bemildred
(90,061 posts)Gregorian
(23,867 posts)You can read into that.
onecaliberal
(32,861 posts)When we were forced to listen to the republicans air his dirty laundry on the evening news for years. These people really are insufferable.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)for sexual harassment simply because he was the boss and the woman was working for him.
vdogg
(1,384 posts)News at 11.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)2) She's supposed to be so tough but she has to have her husband come to "defend" her? Yeah, she's a tough one, alright.
1)You have got to be kidding me. The vicious things people have said about her here and elsewhere aren't attacks? Surely you don't believe what you just wrote.
2)Hillary is strong, but it's also common for family members to support other family members in the political arena. Michelle defended Barack but nobody cared about that. No, I suspect you see the name Clinton and assume everything they do is wrong.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Moving the goalposts doesn't work here.
2) If Hillary is so strong, why can't she win this thing on her own? Bill's out, Albright's out, Steinem it out, Matthews is out, the entire DNC is out there "defending" her. Defending her against, what exactly? If she gets butt-hurt by Bernie talking about the corruption within our political system (never once mentioning her name) and has to have an army of people to come out to "defend" her, what the HELL is she going to do when the Republicans, who have DECADES worth of shit on her, start throwing that shit?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)hell when they asked her to help them sell their immoral invasion. Ooops, check that, she didn't stand up for us.
Maybe she will stand up for us against Wall Street, yeah that's the ticket.
The only thing she has been tough on IS THE FRACKING 99%. She was tough on same sex marriage for years. Now she is tough on medical marijuana users. Wow that's tough.
dembotoz
(16,805 posts)came to understand i was more lefty than most folks during those days
lostnfound
(16,179 posts)Was kind of tired of the "vast right wing conspiracy" and didn't want to witness the sickening vitriolic hate from the right.
Now? Not so much. Would rather that they had remained what they were, rather than become forces against change and mockers of those who hold a dream.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)The idea that one of these campaigns is positive and the other is negative when I know the reverse is true and I have seen it and I have been blistered by it for months is a little tough to take. Just because of the sanitizing coverage thats in the media doesnt mean the facts arent out there. Jan. 7, 2008; New Hampshire
Give me a break. This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale Ive ever seen. Jan. 7, 2008
In theory, we could find someone who is a gifted television commentator and let them run. Theyd have only one year less experience in national politics. Dec. 15, 2007
I think that they played the race card on me. We now know, from memos from the campaign, that they planned to do it all along. April 21, 2008
Jesse Jackson won South Carolina in 84 and 88. Jackson ran a good campaign. And Obama ran a good campaign here. Jan. 26, 2008
So. Any Hillary supporters here want to endorse these comments about Obama's potential? Race cards and fairy tales he says while claiming to be the positive campaign vs the negative campaign of the fairy tale guy....
Nedsdag
(2,437 posts)He did tell Ted Kennedy that Obama was the type of guy "who would get them coffee", right?
I am paraphrasing, but this is the truth.
itcfish
(1,828 posts)What took you so long???
Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)Bill Clinton and his economic advisers from Goldman Sachs.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)Bubba needs to put a cork in it.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)room what so ever to talk about sexist with his past.
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)I heard him say people online who are supporting Bernie are doing that to people who support Hilary and they are. I've been a member here many years. I rarely post, I read, I see the attacks on Hilary supporters.
zazen
(2,978 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Where have I heard this before? Oh, that's right ... Right here on DU!
Trajan
(19,089 posts)I'm curious - How many homes have President Bill Clinton and his family built for the poor and needy?
They talk to a lot of bankers, lots of movers and shakers in the world of high finance ...
How many homes? ...
How many speeches?
Yeah ... I respect President Carter ...
Botany
(70,508 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)The Clintons get small groups,
while Bernie draws thousands.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Yet Hillary whines when Bernie tells the truth about her.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,868 posts)Wanna send hubby out to do your dirty work? Good luck.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)" I just tell the truth about them and they think it's Hell."
Wibly
(613 posts)When a Democratic candidate for President starts trotting out the likes of Madeline Allbright and Henry Kissinger to bolster the campaign, the Shark has been Jumped.
Bernin
(311 posts)You can't help her here.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)You just can't keep a good man down, Charlie Brown!
Taitertots
(7,745 posts)But this is American politics so I guess this is par for the course