Albright: 'Special Place In Hell' For Women Who Don't Support Clinton

[Purveyor]

Source: Guardian UK

Tom McCarthy in Concord, New Hampshire
@TeeMcSee
Saturday 6 February 2016 15.36 EST

Former secretary of state Madeleine Albright introduced Hillary Clinton at an event in New Hampshire on Saturday, telling the crowd and voters in general: “There’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help each other!”

In polling, Clinton trails the Vermont senator Bernie Sanders in New Hampshire by an average of around 17 points. She leads him nationally by 15 to 20 points. In this week’s Iowa caucus, which Clinton won narrowly, the former secretary of state led Sanders among women by 53% to 42% but lost out among younger voters.

Both campaigns were in New Hampshire on Saturday, ahead of Tuesday’s primary. Introducing Clinton in Concord, Albright said: “When she was secretary of state, she restored America’s reputation.

“Those other people before made huge mistakes. They really undermined our reputation and our position in the world, and Hillary Clinton brought us back, she restored our position in the world.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/06/madeleine-albright-campaigns-for-hillary-clinton

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[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

1. Good Lord, the desperation is getting thick.

Btw, anyone know what this is about?

Developing — U.S. State Dept. Caught Attempting to Rig Iowa and New Hampshire Elections - http://bit.ly/1lLD5ag

I'm on a machine that blocks bit.ly as a safety precaution so I can't see where it links or what might be there.

[Ruby the Liberal]

8. Ranting loon on beforeitsnews

Heres the opening salvo from your link:

This is nothing people haven’t heard before, but I feel inclined to say it nonetheless. In addition to both being criminals, and both being guilty of dozens of counts of treason, Barack Obama and both the Clinton’s make up what can only be called “genetic garbage” that we as the human race can only hope gets washed out of our collective gene pool over time. They are crap, sludge. Junk! They are SO dirty, and SO corrupt, and SO filthy… I’d be amazed if they don’t have to get sprayed down by a hazmat team before getting into bed.

In the latest act of sleaze, The U.S. State Department has asked a federal court to grant it a one-month extension to complete its final release of all of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s work-related emails. Spokesman Mark Toner said Friday that the department would not be able to meet its January 29 deadline. About 9,400 of 55,000 pages are left and they contain “a large amount of material that required interagency review,” he said.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

13. Ranting loon indeed.

Should have known it would be tinfoiling.

[billhicks76]

111. Albright=Genocide

500,000 Iraqi kids killed from water born diseases. But BeforeItsNews is not a good place to get news lol.

[RoccoR5955]

11. Here's the non bit.ly link

just for you!
http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2016/01/developing-u-s-state-dept-caught-attempting-to-rig-iowa-and-new-hampshire-elections-2773562.html

[pangaia]

18. You don't want to read it.

And I won't copy and paste.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

20. Somebody did, just another nutter. nt

[pangaia]

32. They left out the first paragraph... fortunately.

[sarge43]

26. Quick and dirty

According to the article, the State Dept is delaying the release of Clinton e-mails until after the IA and NH elections in order to affect the results. FWIW which isn't much

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

29. Not to mention, everyone knows they've been foot-dragging, so it's not like it's even anything new.

And as someone posted an excerpt above, we can see that it's spittle-flecked vitriol around it, as well.

I don't think it's really going to matter much anyway. Bernie's going to win NH, with or without an email releases. If anything, dragging it out hurts Hillary worse, by making it so they drop closer in time to races she has a better chance of winning.

[sarge43]

38. He will win here

No it won't matter one way or another. The Repugs and the media have tried to make a BFD out of it and it hasn't worked. Of all the reasons I don't support Clinton, that faux scandal is right at the bottom of the list. I have the impression I'm not alone.

[daleanime]

103. +1

Not even on my radar.

[swilton]

51. +

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

55. Here's a much more interesting link.

Orders from Clinton: US Diplomats Told to Spy on Other Countries at United Nations

ETA - That's Clinton at work, 'restoring our honour' to the rest of the world, or however her followers say it.

[sarge43]

70. I can't get too tight lipped about that either

That's what governments do and have since Oog and Lug went behind Mut's back and checked out his stash of spear points.

"Restoring our honour" is code for picking on yet another ME nation so long as it isn't Saudi Arabia (wink, wink, nudge, nudge)

[Ruby the Liberal]

2. Genetalia is so far down the list of reasons to support a candidate

that it doesn't even register. In fact, the mere inference is more than insulting.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

16. Otherwise we'd have to start recruiting hermaphrodites for office for optimal vote collection... nt

[DeadLetterOffice]

30. YES!!

If one more person tells me to vote with my vagina I am going to scream. By this reasoning, all men should vote for Bernie.

People have many, many other reasons to support HRC. Could the focus be on THAT please, and not these gender identity politics of divisiveness?

[silvershadow]

60. When the issues are this dramatic, genetalia will just have to wait. It is unfortunate that

the potential first woman to be President has chosen a path less rewarding to women than a Sanders presidency might provide.

[bemildred]

3. "We think it's worth it." nt

[RoccoR5955]

4. I want a woman president as well

But I want a woman president who is a person of color, lesbian, and transsexual. We have to look out for everyone!

[riversedge]

5. the Quardian can not even get the quote right and instead lies in the headline and then

it gets posted on DU. Not surprised.


“There’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help each other!”

[Pathwalker]

12. Facts are irrelevant now.

n/t

[roguevalley]

15. Fuck Madeleine Albright who sits on corporate boards and collects

their blood money

[riversedge]

25. another low no class post.

[roguevalley]

81. since you're in charge of ettiquette here, what do you think about

'crusty old Jew' by a HRC poster that I helped sink on a jury?

[7962]

87. Well, THATS fine, because "women supporting women" and all that!!

[roguevalley]

89. given the ambiguity of your remarks, I will only say that anyone

saying that young women support sanders because they want dick is a sad piece of work and that isn't my remark. It is one of the zillion remarks of outrage that young women are making on her twitter feed.

[7962]

94. Well, to be clear, I fully support you voting to hide that post.

Its ridiculous anywhere, but especially HERE.
As far as that being the reasoning for following Sanders, That doesnt even make any sense to me.

[roguevalley]

96. I agree. I am in love with young women who go out and

Do great things

[billhicks76]

108. Lets Hope These Antiquated Idiots Keep Talking

In the Twitter world it only helps us. Bernie may be old but his Truth has no age defined boundaries. He is the quintessential timeless candidate because he appeals to the basic needs we all have regardless of age or era.

[alcina]

36. The full quote:

“Young women have to support Hillary Clinton. The story is not over!” she said. “They’re going to want to push us back. Appointments to the supreme court make all the difference.

“It’s not done and you have to help. Hillary Clinton will always be there for you. And just remember, there’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help each other.”


I think the implication is pretty clear.

[bunnies]

46. Wow. Full context makes it sound even worse.

Thanks for posting it.

[alcina]

47. You're welcome

I was a little hesitant, as just a few comments up-thread we'd been advised that facts are irrelevant now. But I figured, WTH, I'm gonna bern anyway.

[bunnies]

76. lol.

Its gonna be the coolest special place in hell EVER. At least we know what kind of Government we'll have! Bern for eternity!

[elleng]

82. Yes, thanks.

Shocking she'd say this, I've avoided looking into it, but this is NOT good.

[nichomachus]

67. Amazing how the Hillary gang left out the context

In trying to defend this old war criminal.

[riversedge]

120. NO, it was the OP--who left out the context- --> 2 things wrong.

**** “There’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help each other!” The OP and

Guardian misquote Albright's quote.*************


NOTE***the title of the Guardian contradicts the actual story!!



Albright: 'special place in hell' for women who don't support Clinton



Tom McCarthy in Concord, New Hampshire
@TeeMcSee

Saturday 6 February 2016 15.36 EST


Former secretary of state Madeleine Albright introduced Hillary Clinton at an event in New Hampshire on Saturday, telling the crowd and voters in general: “There’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help each other!”..............



Also--the context of the quote was abortion rights and the upcoming SC nominees:




....Albright was the first woman to be secretary of state and served during the presidency of Clinton’s husband, Bill. She closed her New Hampshire speech with an allusion to the ongoing struggle with Republicans over abortion rights.

“Young women have to support Hillary Clinton. The story is not over!” she said. “They’re going to want to push us back. Appointments to the supreme court make all the difference.

“It’s not done and you have to help. Hillary Clinton will always be there for you. And just remember, there’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help each other.”.................


http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/06/madeleine-albright-campaigns-for-hillary-clinton

[billhicks76]

109. Supreme Court Justices

Hillary will appoint centrists who are afraid of Black people and think its ok to spy on the public to use personal information against them, to send kids to jail for drugs and ruin their and their families lives and to bomb people abroad at the behest of bankers and investors.

[AngryOldDem]

123. I can just imagine my 25-year-old daughter's reaction to this.

She can be pretty blunt.

[George II]

39. Sad, isn't it?

And then the piling on begins about other, off-topic, false "news".

[billhicks76]

107. And You Can't Spell Guardian Right

[Fuddnik]

112. There's a special place in Hell for Madeline Albright.

Anyone who thinks letting half a million Iraqi children die for lack of nutrition and medicine was the right thing to do deserves it.

[Bjornsdotter]

6. Does that mean we should also

.....be supporting Carly Fiorina?

[LiberalElite]

97. Or writing in Phyllis Schafly? nt

[Fuddnik]

113. Nah, Michelle Bachmann.

[BeyondGeography]

7. Embarrassing

[George II]

40. Read the article, the Guardian's headline is NOT what Albright said, but obviously.....

.....it pleased many in this thread no matter how false it was.

[jeff47]

48. Apparently, you are not aware what Albright said.

But I'm very interested in you explaining how this does not say women who do not vote for Clinton are going to hell:

“It’s not done and you have to help. Hillary Clinton will always be there for you. And just remember, there’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help each other.”

[George II]

66. I don't have to explain it, your excerpt already did, jeff.

[jeff47]

122. So your outrage was false?

Or would you like another shovel? I bet if you make the hole deeper you totally will get out of it.

[yuiyoshida]

9. YOU BEST MAKE IT FK'N CUSHY...

I am supporting BERNIE ...

[pangaia]

23. Don't worry.

You already live in heaven...

[yuiyoshida]

24. I am Buddhist... I don't think we have a

Heaven or a Hell...

[pangaia]

35. touche

I don't know if you are Tibetan Buddhist. I might guess not, but did you see H H The Dalai Lama's brief announcement today, or maybe it was yesterday?

[yuiyoshida]

98. Japanese Buddhist

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[trillion]

84. +100000

After browsing the Clinton Discussion group on this site, and seeing how bad their reasoning is:

They want Dems who think Barak Obama should lose his Nobel Prize over torture, to not be considered Dems because they don't support Obama.(WTF!)

I am massively proud to call myself NOT a HILLARY CLINTON supporter and would not want to be associated with that.

[MuseRider]

10. LOL really?

If Hillary was at least a solid liberal I would have little problem voting for her. Iraq, KXL, TPP, cluster bombs, Monsanto, Walmart etc. times 100 are enough to make me disregard anything else. The gender makes no difference. If those were Bernie's positions he would not be getting my vote ever.

[earthside]

14. That statement will backfire, big time.

Pretty condescending and rather insulting ... as if women young and old who use their own minds are somehow betrayers of their sex.

In the context of a political campaign like this -- rather mean-spirited and arrogant.

[ghostsinthemachine]

17. America Frerraro says it like it is.....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/america-ferreras-response-to-reporters-tone-deaf-question-will-make-you-cheer_us_56b3c522e4b08069c7a69eef

[Metric System]

101. She's a Hillary supporter,by the way.

[cascadiance]

19. So, how does she feel about Condi Rice's career as SOS under Bush?...

Especially since it was Madeline Albright's father that talked Rice out of a music major at University of Denver to become her faculty advisor to advise her to pursue her career in International Studies to eventually become SOS.

Madeline Albright's father was also my dad's faculty advisor too there, but I guess Madeline Albright would feel that Condi Rice should have gotten the preferential treatment as a woman or he'd burn in hell?

[SoLeftIAmRight]

21. Margaret Thatcher...

birds of a feather

[Metric System]

34. Bullshit. You know nothing. You won't find a bigger Thatcher hater than Glenda Jackson and she's

hoping that Hillary wins the Presidency. As a Labour MP, Ms. Jackson has no vote in the US election process, but the point is to rebut your Hillary/Thatcher comparison.

[LemmingWarrior]

22. Is that another way of saying

Feel the Bern.

[blackspade]

27. With surrogates like this who needs enemies?

A special place in hell?

[dorkzilla]

28. Guess I'm going to help then

But it will be special as all my girlfriends with be with me! 🍷

[sarge43]

31. If I'm going to a special place in hell, I'll have plenty of good company n/t

[swilton]

59. ++++++++++

[toothless dragon]

33. well if that isn't a sexist thing to say

support me because I have female body parts... I have long supported women in positions in authority... ( yes there is a joke here)... including a legitimate proposal to ban men from office at the MN DFL convention years ago... so I support the best person for the "job" and in this instance that person isn't Hillary...

[George II]

37. SHE DIDN'T SAY THAT!!!!! Did you read the article that YOU linked to???

Here is what Albright said:

"there’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help each other.”

[beam me up scottie]

41. Did you, George? That's the TITLE the Guardian used.

Albright: 'special place in hell' for women who don't support Clinton

This is LBN, the op HAS to use the exact title.

And who do you think she was referring to, The Queen of England?

[George II]

68. I know, beam.

[salib]

44. See post 36.

It is a fair paraphrasing.

[jeff47]

50. You left off the sentence before that.

“It’s not done and you have to help. Hillary Clinton will always be there for you. And just remember, there’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help each other.”

Was the audience supposed to forget the first sentence by the time she said the second?

[7962]

86. Apparently.

[Gman]

42. Yes there is.

[zentrum]

43. Good God.

What a despicable "joke", given all the real atrocities in the world.

I thought hell was reserved for war mongers and their enablers. (Soldiers excluded.)

If not, I guess I'm going to hell.

[TBF]

45. What about elite women who ignore the rest of us?

Evidently Albright and Clinton get a pass on that as they support policies like TPP that send the jobs elsewhere.

[sarge43]

49. New Hampshire may not be the best place for the fire and brimstone threat

About 23% of Graniteheads consider themselves religious while 52% don't.

In short Maddie at least half the audience are doing a face palm.

[Geronimoe]

52. Albright may already being going there

Women are children before they mature.

This is about Clinton's severe sanctions. When UN inspectors could not find any evidence that they were not complying with UN resolution for sanctions, Bill pulled the inspectors out of Iraq so that he could continue the sanctions. This later lead to Bush & Cheney claiming they had WMDs. However the sanctions were so severe that Saddam could barely pay military salaries. Saddam couldn't afford an Air Force or Navy.

[fbc]

57. Yeah I think there might be a special place in hell for Albright

Or maybe those half a million children were all male?

[McKim]

74. Thanks to Geronimoe

Thanks for this important post that reminds us so clearly about what Madelaine Albright really values! Are these feminist values?
Are these women's values?

[Pastiche423]

93. That is the 1st thing I think about

whenever I hear her name.

Disgusting!

[magical thyme]

53. coming from someone who considered the illegal Iraq war worth the price of half a million children's

lives, I'll give her opinion all the consideration it's due.

She is half right, though. There is a special place in hell for *one* of the women in this conversation.

[roamer65]

126. Bingo. Thank you!

Spot on.

[saltpoint]

54. It's lucky for Madeleine Albright that

there's no special place in hell for former public officials who are dumber than a bag of rocks.

[no_hypocrisy]

56. There's an exception to every rule . . . . .

[olddad56]

58. If Madeleine is trying to turn Democrat voters toward Sanders, she is doing a good job.

[LemmingWarrior]

61. Christians were told that about Ronald Reagan

I remember a Christian friend telling me that her Pastor told the congregants that they would go to hell if they didn't vote for Reagan. Albright's comment is similarly just as creepy.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

62. So she's giving Hillary credit for Obama's sucesses?

[elmac]

63. I always thought there was a Special Place In Hell

for those who voted for the Iraq war.

[sarge43]

65. There should be. We can but hope n/t

[McKim]

75. Beautiful!

[olddad56]

78. I thought Hell was a special place in the middle east that GWB created.

[elmac]

79. Yes, he opened the gates of hell

[olddad56]

114. he created the hell that currenly exists there, and eventually will exist everywhere.

[dorkzilla]

64. The more I think about this the angrier I get

She is trying to say that women like me who won't vote for Hillary ought to be relegated to a place normally reserved for child and animal abusers. Plus can you imagine if Bernie had a supporter who said "there's a special place in hell for men who don't vote for Bernie"? How fucking callous and tone deaf. Between her and Gloria Steinem I wonder who is giving Hillary's surrogates these talking points?????

[PoliticalMalcontent]

69. That's such tremendous bullshit.

Every day it gets worse and worse... and this is the party I've been supporting. Makes me ashamed, honestly.

I'll support a candidate on a number of factors with a tangible impact. You know. Issues.

I will not vote for someone based on their gender, skin color, religion, etc.

Was Madeleine Albright supporting Jill Stein in '12? No? What a hypocrite.

[Geronimoe]

71. It really comes down to

genitalia. This is what Hillary is runnning on. Kind of embarrassing, given her husband's past misbehavior.

[tularetom]

72. Every bit as clueless as that other famous female Clinton surrogate

You can't believe how much I had to bite my tongue before I posted this.

[Zambero]

73. We don't choose our gender

But we should be choosing the best possible candidate for the job, regardless of their gender.

[guillaumeb]

77. Is there a special place in hell for those who excuse genocide, Ms. Albright?

[7962]

88. Ouch!!

[guillaumeb]

91. This is modified from a previous, hidden post.

The Clinton era sanctions led to in excess of 500,000 Iraqi deaths. No matter the claimed rationalization, what should such a policy be called that leads to so many deaths?

[olddad56]

125. that policy should be called standard republican operating procedure.

[840high]

80. Read this....

Feminist activist Gloria Steinem on Friday suggested that young women support Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders over rival Hillary Clinton because they want to meet boys.

On HBO’s “Real Time with Bill Maher,” Maher asked Steinem why Clinton, who has campaigned on the historic nature of her candidacy, was losing the young female vote.

don’t mean to over-generalize … but men tend to get more conservative because they gain power as they age, and women get more radical because they lose power as they age,” Steinem responded.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/dem-primaries/268498-gloria-steinem-young-women-support-sanders-to-attract-men#

[billhicks76]

110. She's Either A Liar Or Brain Dead

All women and men I know get MORE CONSERVATIVE as they get older. And it's usually out of fear or self-preservation as well as a resurging need to fit in society.

[trillion]

83. This woman's answer(Trillion) - Go F yourself Albright. How dare you tell me there

is a special place in hell for me for not supporting the corporate liar. Her health care policy is NOT good for women -many and probably most of whom can't afford the monthly payments let alone the deductible. I can't and I have a full time job.

[daleo]

85. In the best traditions of Mark Twain, regarding helly threats

Defying his conscience and accepting the negative religious consequences he expects for his actions—"All right, then, I'll go to hell!"—Huck resolves to free Jim once and for all.

[mike_c]

90. Kissinger and Albright for pete's sake....

The angels of death.

[UpInArms]

92. save me a seat by the fire, be-autch!

and ... stfu you freakin war mongering hack (Albright - not the poster)

[silvershadow]

95. There's a special place in hell for those that would presume to thwart the free will and

common sense of voter's choice. When weighed side by side so far Bernie's platform seems drastically better for women than what I have heard of Hillary's. Unless she's updated her platform again after looking at Bernie's. ?

[TipTok]

99. The right pair of chromosomes is deserving of a free pass from 51% of the population?

This is the entitlement bullshit that is so distasteful to so many...

[Nyan]

100. "Special place in hell"?

Now I see the mentality of a person who said it was "worth it" to have hundreds of thousands Iraqi children die of water-borne diseases.

[slipslidingaway]

105. "We think the price is worth it..."

[Indepatriot]

102. STFU you sexist pig Albright. That is all.

[slipslidingaway]

104. Video of Albright and Clinton's reaction ...

[Bernin]

106. Pretty pathetic

when the only thing you have to campaign on is your gender.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

115. Must ... help ... women ...

so if you don't care for Clinton, I guess Fiorina would be the second choice?

In Albright's philosophy, issues don't matter.

[Marrah_G]

116. Well, good thing I don't believe in hell

Keep it classy!

[left-of-center2012]

117. "she restored America’s reputation" (I thought it was Obama?)

Taking credit for Obama's Presidency

[GoldenOldie]

118. "Special Place in Hell" statement is offensive

As an 80 Yr old woman who has been active in women's issues most of her adult life, and looking for that special woman who may become our first POTUS. I was extremely offended that Albright made this statement. I hoped I would see this in my lifetime, yet my concern has been that she be the right woman for the future of my children and grandchildren depended on it

[MrMickeysMom]

119. Said the distributor of good news on acceptable collateral damage in killing children ...

Here's that rat-faced fascist mouthpiece feeling GOOD about herself...

[beac]

121. I would have thought Albright would have retired that little catch phrase

after SARAH PALIN used in 2012.

[AngryOldDem]

124. I'd like to give women a little more credit than Albright apparently does.

And given how pissed younger voters are now at the establishment (and their elders) I don't think it was a very astute move on Albright's part to say this.

Fear tactics will backfire -- especially fear tactics like these.