Bundy several others indicted by federal grand jury

[L. Coyote]

Source: Twitter 1:57 PM PST - 3 Feb 2016

Pat Dooris ?@PatDooris 16 minutes ago
Bundy several others indicted by federal grand jury

Maxine Bernstein ?@maxoregonian
Federal prosecutors said indictments against Bundys & others will be unsealed in less than 24 hours #oregonstandoff

Leah Sottile ?@Leah_Sottile
Mike Arnold (atty for Ammon Bundy): "My client is not present in the courtroom and I believe he has a right to be here."#oregonstandoff
Judge Stewart: "When an indictment is returned, a def no longer has a right to the prelim hearing...no need for your client to appear."


Read more: https://twitter.com/PatDooris/status/695003149535346688

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Hearing was cancelled due to pending indictments. Judge orders defendant's attorneys to have indictments within 24 hours.

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Anna ?@TallyAnnaE 2 minutes ago
Prosecutors Bring Sealed Indictment In Bundy Case
http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/prosecutors-bring-sealed-indictment-in-bundy-case/#OregonStandoff #BundyMilitia

... Prosecutors said Ammon Bundy, Ryan Bundy, Ryan Payne and other militants are named in the indictment.

Because the indictment handed down is sealed, the details of the charges are not available. The document could be partially unsealed sometime Thursday. ....

KGW News ?@KGWNews 2 minutes ago
Ammon Bundy, others indicted by federal grand jury http://on.kgw.com/1me116k #Oregonstandoff

Les Zaitz ?@LesZaitz 11 minutes ago
Ammon Bundy and others indicted by federal grand jury. Charges sealed for now, but likely to be multiple counts.

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R.E.A.L Human Rights ?@realhumanrights 25 minutes ago
#OregonUnderAttack #OregonStandoff Grand jury indicts 16 in connection with Oregon takeover http://reut.rs/1QdIAH6

A U.S. grand jury returned an indictment on Wednesday against 16 people in connection with the armed occupation of a wildlife refuge in Oregon, prosecutors said.

The U.S. Attorney's Office in Portland did not disclose the charges contained in the indictment, which has been sealed, but said it would likely be made public soon. A previous criminal complaint charged 11 former occupiers with conspiracy to impede federal officers.

Grand jury indicts Ammon Bundy and some other occupiers
Indictment is sealed but will be unsealed in 24 hours
By Steven DuBois / Associated Press Feb 3, 2016 at 05:09PM

... Arraignment was set for Feb. 24. ... In a criminal complaint, defendants have a right to a preliminary hearing in which they can question the arresting officer under oath about probable cause for the charges.

After an indictment, they are no longer entitled to such a proceeding. ....

DJ Rubiconski ?@Rubiconski
FBI officer posted outside the Harney County Courthouse Tuesday




=== previously in this soap opera ===

#BundyTeaParty Day 30: What you need to know = four holdouts await divine intervention =

BLM tab, $1,000,000.00, Cliven Bundy trying to write a letter, priceless.

#RefugeRally chant went from "birds not bullies" to "throw the bums in jail" #Oregonstandoff 43 pics

Happening now: Bundy breaking down fence on refuge #BundyTeaParty

The #BundyBunch was spotted this morning, foraging for snacks.

[63splitwindow]

1. FELONY MURDER is a MUST if it is a viable charge...

under applicable law. The message needs to be loud and clear that you if stir up this kind of crap and death(s) result then you WILL be held accountable!

[randome]

2. Manslaughter or negligent homicide, maybe?

I don't see a straight murder charge as holding up.
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[63splitwindow]

3. see definition below

felony murder doctrine

n. a rule of criminal statutes that any death which occurs during the commission of a felony is first degree murder, and all participants in that felony or attempted felony can be charged with and found guilty of murder. A typical example is a robbery involving more than one criminal, in which one of them shoots, beats to death or runs over a store clerk, killing the clerk. Even if the death were accidental, all of the participants can be found guilty of felony murder, including those who did no harm, had no gun, and/or did not intend to hurt anyone. In a bizarre situation, if one of the holdup men or women is killed, his/her fellow robbers can be charged with murder.

[link:http://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=741#ixzz3z9B3tlpM|

[Wellstone ruled]

4. Got a feeling this is just the start.

Someone at DOJ finally found the their Big Person Panties and are going to try and neuter the Militia Movement. Grand Juries can be real interesting.

[L. Coyote]

5. Wonder how many weeks the grand jury was convened.

Nice end to their deliberations though, it seems. I wonder if the same grand jury will remain seated and consider more indictments.

[Wellstone ruled]

10. Last time I served we were

on call for one year. Assuming there was a Federal Grand already impaneled and the call to serve was made as to time and meeting room. Everyone should serve on a Regular or a Grand,democracy at it's finest.

[jpak]

6. I volunteer for the Precious Confiscation Squad

[63splitwindow]

7. I don't get it? n/t

[jpak]

8. If they are convicted of a felony - they will lose their guns

AKA - The Precious

[63splitwindow]

9. Thanks. Will leave them with only their thumbs to suck on...

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[L. Coyote]

11. Perhaps a rough night ahead for refuge holdouts in tent. Forecast: up to 3 inches of snow, freezing

Indictment to be sealed in the morning may name the four occupants, which would mean there may be arrests before then. If the occupants art indicted, will the situation get resolved before they find out.

Les Zaitz Verified account @LesZaitz
Perhaps a rough night ahead for refuge holdouts in tent. Forecast: up to 3 inches of snow, well below freezing.


David Shapiro @davidrshapiro @LesZaitz please explain to a lay person what is the point of a sealed indictment?
Les Zaitz ?@LesZaitz 2 hours ago Retweeted David Shapiro
Often, it allows US marshals to effect arrests before people learn they are indicted. Not sure intent in this case.

John Sepulvado ?@JohnLGC 3 hours ago
so, what i haven't been telling y'all is for the past 36 hours i've been in communication with the militants at the refuge 1/5
i've called every four hours -- most of these conversations have been short. 2/5
the FBI was concerned about the militants poisoning themselves because they were sleeping in their cars with their engines on 3/5
they're not doing that anymore -- they're also not talking with anyone. I was called about fifteen minutes ago by an unknown number 4/5
and told that as of 12:50, there would be no more external communications -- meaning i can't call in. I was not able to reach them at 1:30.

Note the timing. The refuge was cut off before the indictments were announced, barely.

Wulalowe ?@Wulalowe 1h1 hour ago

Pol introduces bill that would force occupiers to pay cost of #Oregonstandoff
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/blumenauer-introduces-bill-occupiers-oregon-standoff-cost/31641086 … #publiclands

[JesterCS]

15. so they might not

Even be aware of this at all. is it bad i find that utterly hilarious?

[Danascot]

12. Thanks for your reporting on this.

You continue to be awesome.

I'm interested in this story but it takes a fair amount of effort to find out what's going on, so thanks for doing the work.

[L. Coyote]

13. You are welcome.

I'd like to see more compilation threads of ongoing events. We did a lot of these years ago, really helps keep up on developing stories.

[Judi Lynn]

14. Love the spirit reflected in the signs by the citizens. Thank you for these beautiful posts. n/t

[L. Coyote]

17. WA POST: Bundy clan leader unrepentant even as Oregon protest collapses

Bundy clan leader unrepentant even as Oregon protest collapses

Obama administration officials say they are moving forward with the case against the cattleman, whose sagebrush revolt became a cause celebre for groups opposed to federal ownership of Western lands. ....

Interior Secretary Sally Jewell has repeatedly said that Bundy broke the law and will eventually be held to account.

“The wheels of justice move at their own pace,” Jewell said during a visit to Nevada last summer.

But others, including some former Interior employees, say the reluctance to confront Bundy has only emboldened the rancher’s followers. Over the past 21 months, government employees have faced a barrage of threats and occasional harassment ....

Change4good @Change4good1
Lawmaker who met w #Oregonstandoff nuts loses both his jobs. Good!
http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/02/03/ted-cruzs-campaign-chair-resigns-after-revelations-he-lied-about-military-service/

Wulalowe @Wulalowe
The surprising history of the #Malheur #WildlifeRefuge | @HighCountryNews
http://www.hcn.org/articles/the-surprising-history-of-the-malheur-wildlife-refuge … #OregonStandoff

[L. Coyote]

18. A week after telling Oregon standoff holdouts to go, Ammon Bundy now tells police to leave

A week after telling Oregon standoff holdouts to go, Ammon Bundy now tells police to leave
By Everton Bailey Jr. | The Oregonian/OregonLive February 04, 2016

mmon Bundy, leader of the monthlong armed occupation of a federal wildlife refuge, said from jail Thursday that the takeover was "a needed action" and called on state and federal law enforcement officials to leave eastern Oregon.

Bundy's attorneys in Eugene released an audio statement from their client after he learned of his federal indictment ....

"Government officials chose to end our educational efforts with attacks of force and it appears they attempt to do it again," Bundy said in the minute-and-a half statement. "Go home, Oregon State Police. You have already killed enough. Go home, FBI. It is time to end this."

Bundy also said the takeover of the refuge was the "duty of the people," because of perceived injustices .........

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BelindaAkers ?@belinda_akers 7 minutes ago
@deathrep @MsMarchHare maybe good jailhouse reading for #BundyMilitia #Oregonstandoff #GoHome


Baseball ?@baseballminutia @Oregonian #Oregonstandoff
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.

CW Wade ?@CWWades
Bundy is obviously delusional and insane .. #Oregonstandoff

OPB News ?@OPBnews 9 minutes ago
Occupiers not listed in the indictment returned Wednesday could still face charges http://ow.ly/XXZPl #OregonStandoff

ABC15 Arizona @abc15
Jon Ritzheimer update: Man charged in Oregon standoff denied release from jail http://bit.ly/1PlXmfa #abc15


http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/breaking/2016/02/04/oregon-standoff-suspect-jon-ritzheimer-denied-bail/79838512/

Bill Clunie ?@billclunie 18 minutes ago
Pete Santilli will be lead singer for prison protest band DildoRiot. #Oregonstandoff

Maxine Bernstein ?@maxoregonian Feb 3
New courtdoc filed by Pete Santilli's lawyer: says his so-called 'incendiary' comments never rose to 'true threats' http://s.oregonlive.com/67rFqP

Good LOL = The parody page on Facebook "Public Lands Hunt Group" is being treated as more than humor:
https://arizonadailyindependent.com/2016/02/03/anti-grazing-anti-mormon-group-calls-for-shooting-cattle-targets-ranchers/

[L. Coyote]

19. Judge Mosman affirmed earlier ruling, ordering Pete Santilli detained #Oregonstandoff

Last edited Fri Feb 5, 2016, 01:04 AM - Edit history (3)

Maxine Bernstein ?@maxoregonian 40 minutes ago
Judge Mosman affirmed earlier ruling, ordering Pete Santilli detained #Oregonstandoff

Prosecutors played video/audio of 2013 Santilli broadcast where he said he'd shoot Hillary Clinton in the genitals #Oregonstandoff
Mosman said he was troubled by handful of Santilli's broadcast statements directed at federal law enforcement, US Marshals #Oregonstandoff

Eileen ?@Eileenonart
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/02/a_week_after_telling_refuge_ho.html
Bundy says FBI ended "our education efforts" !??? That's what u call TERRORISM ?!!!#Oregonstandoff SCARY

Eileen Park ?@EileenParkKOIN
DEFENSE: Santilli's radio show is his livelihood. If he can't be under house arrest, he will go bankrupt. #Oregonstandoff #KOIN6News
In the end Santilli's own words on his radio show bragging about his registered & unregistered guns: keeping him locked up. #Oregonstandoff
DEFENSE'S main argument: Everything Santilli says is "Bravado. He's an entertainer. Loud and boisterous."

Lisa Bundy ?@RealLisaBundy 15 minutes ago
My husband is nothing more than a political prisoner. #Oregonstandoff #FreeAmmonBundy

Anna ?@TallyAnnaE
Militia's Pete Santilli to be detained until trial http://wp.me/p4yR81-17qX via @koinnews #OregonStandoff #BundyMilitia

Annie ?@pirateannie166 minutes ago
Honestly why is it so fucking hard to get that bringing arms to an occupation makes it an armed occupation???? #Oregonstandoff

Bundy militants could be forced to repay $3.4 million to taxpayers over illegal stunt
04 Feb 2016 at 11:20 ET

An Oregon Democrat introduced legislation that would require Ammon Bundy and other out-of-state militants to repay taxpayers for the cost of their armed takeover of a wildlife sanctuary.

Rep. Earl Blumenauer introduced a bill that would require the militants — and the federal government — to pay back costs associated with the occupation, which the lawmaker estimates at $100,000 a day, reported KOIN-TV.

The bill would require the U.S. Department of Justice “to quickly reimburse state and local law enforcement agencies up front for costs associated with responding to the armed takeover.”

The U.S. Attorney General would then be allowed sue the militants to recover those costs. ...........

Chris Christianson ?@itwaschris
Patricia Aiken just threatened a public figure on Revolution News
http://bit.ly/1QzMpJf - quick #FBI get her a pillow! #Oregonstandoff
“Hillary needs to be taken to the shed with a pitchfork about as far up her backside as it can be.”