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Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 03:08 PM Jan 2016

Pelosi voices confidence in Wasserman Schultz

Source: The Hill

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Thursday expressed confidence in the chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, who is facing calls from some progressive groups to resign.

“Debbie Wasserman Schultz is a very valued member of the House of Representatives,” Pelosi said, dismissing new concerns about the Florida lawmaker.

“She has all the stamina and enthusiasm for the job that she has, and I believe she has the confidence of the president and will of the nominee of our party, and that's where our decisions are made,” said Pelosi, who has held numerous fundraisers with the DNC chairwoman.

Liberal grassroots groups CREDO and Roots Action have targeted Wasserman Schultz for saying that women in their 20s and 30s have become complacent about abortion rights.

more: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/265061-pelosi-democrats-are-confident-in-wasserman-schultz

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Pelosi voices confidence in Wasserman Schultz (Original Post) Freddie Stubbs Jan 2016 OP
Pelosi needs a competence check Wibly Jan 2016 #1
I guess that depends on how one defines "gateway" ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #4
Not sure I understand your point LiberalLovinLug Jan 2016 #14
How Bernin Jan 2016 #16
It has long been argued that marijuana is/has been mis-scheduled ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #19
I'm Bernin Jan 2016 #26
I know where the schedule has weed ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #31
You miss bernin's point. ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2016 #51
Discredited Sham Theory billhicks76 Jan 2016 #56
It doesn't matter if marijuana is legal or illegal passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #61
I have already said I support legalization of ALL drugs ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #64
"Marijuana is a gateway drug" lancer78 Jan 2016 #68
Impeachment of DWS is off the table. bahrbearian Jan 2016 #2
Got the thumbs up from 12th richest Congressperson. mpcamb Jan 2016 #17
Pelosi knows she has to support DWS Wellstone ruled Jan 2016 #3
Shockingly ... most Democrats don't have a problem with DWS. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #5
When she was appointed,just knew this would come back to bite us in the butt. Wellstone ruled Jan 2016 #7
Again ... most Democrats don't have a problem with DWS. 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #12
Not true. Mainly Hillarians are in love with her backstabbing and game-playing ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2016 #52
Umm, No. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #57
Interesting use of the word "Democrats" Android3.14 Jan 2016 #23
I know ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #25
You are a true true Scotsman! n/t Gore1FL Jan 2016 #29
No; but, when people tell you they are Independents or Libertarians or list being a Democrat ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #33
When someone runs for the Democratic nomination, I believe them too. n/t Gore1FL Jan 2016 #39
So do I ... But we are not talking about people running for the Democratic nomination, are we? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #42
Honestly, I rarely know what you are talking about. Gore1FL Jan 2016 #44
I'm not surprised ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #49
I imagine it is difficult to drop much lower. Gore1FL Jan 2016 #65
How do you know? tabasco Jan 2016 #47
Because I spend a fair amount of time in Democratic campaign offices ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #50
"Most Democrats" don't even know who Debbie Wasserman Schultz is. tabasco Jan 2016 #60
LOL ... Doesn't that bolster my "ridiculous claim" ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #62
DWS is a big part of why SwankyXomb Jan 2016 #6
Are you sure about that? ... That would be a neat trick ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #28
We have elections every two years. Gore1FL Jan 2016 #41
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #48
Wasserman Schultz was confirmed at the meeting of the DNC held on May 4, 2011 Gore1FL Jan 2016 #63
In my state. too... imagine that ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #66
My point was that Wasserman Schultz sucked in 2014 Gore1FL Jan 2016 #69
Yeah that's a word salad ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #70
The system is way fucking broken. Phlem Jan 2016 #8
Thank you and HIllary has arrived for you pic ... riversedge Jan 2016 #9
Bwahahaha! elias49 Jan 2016 #36
lol RandiFan1290 Jan 2016 #10
ROFLMAO! SoapBox Jan 2016 #11
Oh. Is it off the table, then? Iggo Jan 2016 #13
So she's ok with the people not getting more debates? It doesn't say that, but... Gregorian Jan 2016 #15
I don't know who this "we" is who want more debates. murielm99 Jan 2016 #18
That's a good point. It made news. It was meaningful. Gregorian Jan 2016 #21
First off, the_sly_pig Jan 2016 #20
Yeah, overturn Roe v. Wade. murielm99 Jan 2016 #22
what? FreedomRain Jan 2016 #24
That wasn't my point... the_sly_pig Jan 2016 #27
No. That's more of the "the unwashed just haven't suffered enough ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #30
Do you like Democrats in Congress being in the minority, Nancy? CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #32
she likes to keep her table clean 2pooped2pop Jan 2016 #34
Most of the Democrats in the House agree with Pelosi. MADem Jan 2016 #35
And I have no doubt DWS will be just as successful in the House as she's been in the DNC. Daniel537 Jan 2016 #38
Will be? She has been there for some time, now. She is working two jobs. MADem Jan 2016 #58
Link? Gore1FL Jan 2016 #43
Good, I also have confifence in DWS. Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #37
Exactly what inspires this confidence? NobodyHere Jan 2016 #45
Exactly what inspirse questioning of my confidence? Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #46
Are You Kidding? billhicks76 Jan 2016 #55
Pelosi is beyond delusional if she actually believes this tripe. Daniel537 Jan 2016 #40
Can someone explain what Pelosi means by "will of the nominee of our party"? JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #53
Pelosi An Enemy Of Justice Then billhicks76 Jan 2016 #54
Establishment tool 1 praising establishment tool 2. Odin2005 Jan 2016 #59
Pelosi is a tool eom LiberalElite Jan 2016 #67

Wibly

(613 posts)
1. Pelosi needs a competence check
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 03:11 PM
Jan 2016

Anyone who believes cannabis is a "gateway" drug needs a litmus test. Anyone who voices confidence in a person who claims cannabis is a gateway check may well be senile.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
4. I guess that depends on how one defines "gateway" ...
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 03:19 PM
Jan 2016

While studies indicate that most people that use/have used marijuana don't progress to "harder" drugs, people who are more vulnerable to drug-taking are simply more likely to start with readily available substances like marijuana, tobacco, or alcohol, and their subsequent social interactions with other drug users increases their chances of trying other drugs.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
14. Not sure I understand your point
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 04:06 PM
Jan 2016

You are right in pointing out that the vast majority of pot users never move up to harder drugs.

You imply that one can re-define "gateway" in a way that supports that theory. But you also move the goalposts and even move it onto another playing field when doing so. Of course no one can argue that probably the vast majority of those that get hooked on hard drugs are more vulnerable, more addiction prone, probably more damaged mentally from bad upbringing, and they have to start somewhere, and no one can deny they probably used pot first. But to imply that without pot, these damaged souls would never have had tried harder drugs eventually, if only they didn't hang around with other druggies? I don't agree.

Just because I've had friends in the past that were chain smokers of tabacco, did not make me want to join them. I've also had friends that used hard drugs. Did I try some, yes, but I did not have any compulsion to get in deeper. In fact seeing the effect it had on my friend made me want to definitely stick to my weed.

Also, if one is going to blame pot on eventual hard addictions, then why not start with caffeine? I'd guarantee that before most of these once pot users, now hard drug users, started with a good ole cup of joe! And got addicted to caffeine for that hit in the morning (like most of everyone else of us that never moved on to heroin). One could look at refined sugar as well...

Sorry, but there is just no plausible reasoning to support that marijuana is any kind of unique gateway.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
19. It has long been argued that marijuana is/has been mis-scheduled ...
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 04:39 PM
Jan 2016

and do you really want to argue that marijuana is as "hard" as cocaine, meth and/or heroin?

 

Bernin

(311 posts)
26. I'm
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 05:23 PM
Jan 2016

just going by the current classification.
I didn't make the schedule.
Until it is rescheduled I don't think it makes sense to call it a gateway drug to "harder" drugs since there is no "harder" drug than schedule 1.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
51. You miss bernin's point.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 07:30 PM
Jan 2016

The current classification has nothing to do with reality. Except the reality is that pot is listed on the most dangerous drug category.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
61. It doesn't matter if marijuana is legal or illegal
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 10:13 PM
Jan 2016

People who are prone to substance abuse are going to use it and any other drug they can get their hands on...legally or illegally. I would much rather have them using marijuana legally, than harder drugs. So how about we legalize it so it doesn't put so many of your people in jail? I would think you would be in favor of that.

 

lancer78

(1,495 posts)
68. "Marijuana is a gateway drug"
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 11:13 PM
Jan 2016

Geez, I hope so! Cocaine and Heroin is pretty tough s**t to start on.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
3. Pelosi knows she has to support DWS
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 03:17 PM
Jan 2016

is it all about messaging and Optics. Remember she has Hoyer just licking for a fight with Pelosi,and if she says anything negative towards DWS,the Mega Donors will pull the pin. As much as we want DWS out,it has to be done quietly and not a long drug out affair. Rock and a hard place.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
7. When she was appointed,just knew this would come back to bite us in the butt.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 03:39 PM
Jan 2016

And Democrats wonder why we lost so much ground since. All about the Wall Street Corporate money.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
52. Not true. Mainly Hillarians are in love with her backstabbing and game-playing
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 07:32 PM
Jan 2016

The majority are shocked how she is squandering the opportunity for free air time by stifling debates, especially by third parties.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
25. I know ...
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 05:21 PM
Jan 2016

I use it to denote members of the Democratic Party, and to distinguish them from Independents, Libertarians, and others that have no particular affinity to the Democratic Party and/or its candidates and elected officials.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
33. No; but, when people tell you they are Independents or Libertarians or list being a Democrat ...
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 05:39 PM
Jan 2016

as their 3rd or 4th political descriptor, if at all; while riling against the Democratic Party, its candidates and elected officials, and people that list Democrat as their 1st political descriptor ... I tend to believe them.

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
44. Honestly, I rarely know what you are talking about.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 06:58 PM
Jan 2016

It's mostly hyperbole, and I have a hard time cutting my way through it.

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
65. I imagine it is difficult to drop much lower.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 11:04 PM
Jan 2016

Absent the vitriol and the hyperbole, people might find your post more informing and thought provoking.

Have a great night. TTFN

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
50. Because I spend a fair amount of time in Democratic campaign offices ...
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 07:28 PM
Jan 2016

and have only heard the lack of support for DWS on the internet and tv.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
60. "Most Democrats" don't even know who Debbie Wasserman Schultz is.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 09:37 PM
Jan 2016

Stop making ridiculous claims you can't back up.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
62. LOL ... Doesn't that bolster my "ridiculous claim" ...
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 10:25 PM
Jan 2016

that most Democrats don't have a problem with DWS?

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
28. Are you sure about that? ... That would be a neat trick ...
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 05:28 PM
Jan 2016

since DWS became head of the DNC AFTER Democrats lost control of the House (making Pelosi the Minority Leader).

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
41. We have elections every two years.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 06:55 PM
Jan 2016

1. Who was in charge of the DNC during that election?
A> Debbie Wasserman Schultz
B> Not Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

2. After the 2014 election Did the Democrats
A> Gained seats
B> Lost seats.

3. Had the Democrats won a majority seats in 2014, Nancy Pelosi would be
A> Speaker
B> Not Speaker.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
48. Okay ...
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 07:20 PM
Jan 2016
1. Who was in charge of the DNC during that election?
A> Debbie Wasserman Schultz
B> Not Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

Response: Which election ... 2010? B.

2. After the 2014 election Did the Democrats
A> Gained seats
B> Lost seats.

Response: Lost seats, B.

3. Had the Democrats won a majority seats in 2014, Nancy Pelosi would be
A> Speaker
B> Not Speaker.

Response: Possibly, A. Who knows?

But that said ... I would hope you understand the Head of the DNC (or the RNC) does not determine how individual candidates campaign/perform/run their individual races; the DNC provides over-all strategy advice and fund-raising. Most of the House Democratic incumbents that lost their seats (and those that lost their contests, did so while running away from President Obama (against the advice of the DNC. Secondly, because of the losses in 2010, republicans re-drew the district maps, ensuring republicans to maintain and pick up seats ... I'm sure you heard about that.


How'd I do teacher?

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
63. Wasserman Schultz was confirmed at the meeting of the DNC held on May 4, 2011
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 10:52 PM
Jan 2016

2014 is after 2011 in my state.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
66. In my state. too... imagine that ...
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 11:08 PM
Jan 2016

so what your point?

(Before you come back with another smart assed response ... address my DNC's non-control of individual candidates' campaign and gerrymandering points.)

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
69. My point was that Wasserman Schultz sucked in 2014
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 11:18 PM
Jan 2016

I am not going to try to discern what you are talking about. "DNC's non-control of individual candidates' campaign and gerrymandering points" = world salad.

Have a great night

TTFN

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
15. So she's ok with the people not getting more debates? It doesn't say that, but...
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 04:15 PM
Jan 2016

Not all Americans are asleep. Some are still poking this thing to see if there's life. We sent a clear message that we wanted more discussion between candidates. We're the ones calling the shots to some extent. Forget about not impeaching the most impeachable offense in the history of our country, but asking for more discussion between candidates is really trivial.

murielm99

(30,741 posts)
18. I don't know who this "we" is who want more debates.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 04:36 PM
Jan 2016

Most Americans find this a non-issue.

What shots are you calling? The only shots I see you calling are the anti-Hillary, DWS, and now anti-Pelosi shots.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
21. That's a good point. It made news. It was meaningful.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 05:02 PM
Jan 2016

But who are the "we". I don't know. Petitions we signed was one.

the_sly_pig

(741 posts)
20. First off,
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 04:42 PM
Jan 2016

It's not abortion rights it is the right to choose. I think DWS needs to go. Pelosi, Reid, Klobuchar ... all these democrats that placate the right wing... New faces, new ideas, it's time for change.

Sometimes I think the best thing that could happen would be for Roe v. Wade to be overturned. Then maybe we'd see some fire in the belly.....

As far as the marijuana, drugs are used for a reason. The drug does not matter.

the_sly_pig

(741 posts)
27. That wasn't my point...
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 05:27 PM
Jan 2016

... "let a lot of women die"??? Seems pretty extreme. If DWS is right, reversal seems a foregone outcome in a culture of apathy.

I'm tired of explaining to men and women that Roe v. Wade is about the control over ones own body. It's about avoiding being made a second class citizen.

Fire away more platitudes if you like. I have all day....

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
30. No. That's more of the "the unwashed just haven't suffered enough ...
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 05:33 PM
Jan 2016

to be as enlightened as me" stuff.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
34. she likes to keep her table clean
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 05:42 PM
Jan 2016

Or at least make sure certain things are off of it. We knew long ago that she too needs to go. She just needs a viable dem running against her.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
35. Most of the Democrats in the House agree with Pelosi.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 06:10 PM
Jan 2016

This will no doubt be a blow to the left tip of the left wing of the party who have decided that she's the Big Bugaboo!!!!!

When DWS takes a House Leadership position after she's done with DNC, some people aren't gonna like it.

Oh, well!

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
38. And I have no doubt DWS will be just as successful in the House as she's been in the DNC.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 06:46 PM
Jan 2016

A "New" Democratic minority for years to come. Thanks, Debbie. Don't know what we'd do without her.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
58. Will be? She has been there for some time, now. She is working two jobs.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 08:24 PM
Jan 2016

She's doing as well as anyone can do, absent the retirement of some established leading lights. Her position is safe, as is her House seat. Her constituents like her--a lot.

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
40. Pelosi is beyond delusional if she actually believes this tripe.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 06:52 PM
Jan 2016

Democrats have been decimated nationwide at every level except the Presidency. If Republicans pick that off this year we'll be closer to a one-party state than anything we've seen in modern history. DWS isn't leading the party anywhere except a ditch.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
53. Can someone explain what Pelosi means by "will of the nominee of our party"?
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 07:33 PM
Jan 2016

The way I am reading it it seems as if she knows who the nominee is. Is there an alternative interpretation I am missing??

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