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Omaha Steve

(99,632 posts)
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 09:22 AM Jan 2016

Clinton and Sanders spar over who can win in November

Source: CNN

By Dan Merica

Las Vegas Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders have been circling each other on electability for days, knocking one another from afar over which candidate stands a better chance to beat Republicans in November's general.

On Wednesday night in Las Vegas, they made their cases with the other candidate mere feet away.

snip: "All of us want to make sure that we defeat right wing extremism, that we make certain that no Republicans become president of the United States, all of us are united that we are going to take back the Senate and that we are going to do well all over this country," Sanders said. "But let me be very clear: That result will not happen with establishment politics and establishment economics. The only way that Democrats win elections, is when we have a large voter turnout."

Sanders supporters - keyed into the back and forth on electability - jumped to their feet at this comment. Clinton supporters did not, in part because many of them left after their candidate had finished speaking.

FULL story and video at link.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/07/politics/clinton-sanders-las-vegas-dinner/

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Clinton and Sanders spar over who can win in November (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jan 2016 OP
Pretty obvious who has the power madokie Jan 2016 #1
But Bernie brings a better chance of gaining seats FreakinDJ Jan 2016 #3
Yes he can madokie Jan 2016 #14
Spar over who can win? Yes, it's called a "primary". JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2016 #2
Obviously both fbc Jan 2016 #4
agreement. Amimnoch Jan 2016 #7
I agree completely...with your top sentence...it says it all....nt.. Stuart G Jan 2016 #11
+100% Gawdless Pinko Lib Jan 2016 #8
We need to think about who we lose with either candidate Babel_17 Jan 2016 #5
I have an idea.... Sherman A1 Jan 2016 #6
'all the complex challenges we face' Eric J in MN Jan 2016 #9
It is my honest opinion that either Bernie or Hillary would win..Why? Stuart G Jan 2016 #10
It's primary season, of course both candidates think that they can win the general election. Beacool Jan 2016 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2016 #13
 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
3. But Bernie brings a better chance of gaining seats
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 09:55 AM
Jan 2016

In the house and Senate by bringing in a generation of young voters

madokie

(51,076 posts)
14. Yes he can
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 03:40 PM
Jan 2016

and yes he will.
I kinda' feel sorry for Hillary because she's had her sights set on the oval office ever since Bill walked in in January of 93. But that is not a reason to be pulling for her today. Right now we need someone like Bernie who will start knocking heads, metaphorically speaking, come January of 2017 Hillary stands for more of the same where Bernie doesn't. More of the same is not what our country needs. For the ones who think it is, fine think that but I ain't and they ain't going to get me to change my mind. I pay attention and paying attention has saved my ass for 67 years now.

We gotta do something and Hillary is not that something.

 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
4. Obviously both
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 09:58 AM
Jan 2016

I'm more confident in a Bernie victory in the general since he doesn't have 30 years of right wing hate against him and I feel his populist message also appeals to many republican voters, but let's be frank: either democratic candidate should win in a landslide.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
7. agreement.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 10:57 AM
Jan 2016

Any of our 3 candidates can whoop on any of the clowncar filled with republicans.

As much as your Bernie peops have been at the throats of us Hillary peops and vice versa.. we got a damn good field of candidates compared to the mess they have. I can't imagine how embarrassing it must be to have to admit to being a Republican right about now.

 
8. +100%
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 11:00 AM
Jan 2016

None of the GOP cretins stand a chance of winning in November, and I'd like to thank FUX SNOOZE for making this joyous fact possible!

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
5. We need to think about who we lose with either candidate
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 09:59 AM
Jan 2016

We need to think about who we lose with either candidate, as well as who will drive Democratic leaning voters to the polls. And we need to think strategically. The swing states are incredibly important, yet again.

Can Clinton excite the Independent voters in the swing states? Can she get the first time/infrequent voters to show up for us?

Will Sanders scare away traditional Democratic voters? Can Sanders woo over moderates?

A lot gets taken for granted. Let's not repeat the mistake of thinking we own any voters just because they register as Democrats, or because they favor Democrats on some important issues.

I'm not depending on the Republicans handing us a victory.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
9. 'all the complex challenges we face'
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 12:28 PM
Jan 2016

Hillary Clinton said we need...

"A president who can get the job done and not just on a few issues, but on all the complex challenges we face."

The comment was not taken kindly by Sanders supporters, many of whom booed the former Secretary of State at points during her speech.


As a presidential candidate, Bernie Sanders hammers a few issues (breaking up the Big Banks, wealth inequality, climate change) again and again.

But the reason he's the most popular US Senator with his constituents is that he responds to their concerns. There are Republican small farmers in VT who vote for him because he gets them farm subsidies.

Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
10. It is my honest opinion that either Bernie or Hillary would win..Why?
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 12:45 PM
Jan 2016

If we get out the vote, then it is clear to me. Either of our leading candidates will beat those nutcakes...

How can the Republicans defend their opinions on climate change, immigration, favors to the big banks and corporations...
Their opinions are anti-middle class, and anti the rest of us.....

We have to get out our vote, we will win, and it does make a difference between democrats and republicans. No matter who we nominate. The assholes want to revoke the Affordable Care Act, that currently covers millions of people. Right now, as we read this, lives are being saved and families are getting care they wouldn't have gotten, but the Republicans still want to take it away, in spite of the fact it is in place, and working right now..

That is what this is about...!!!!!!!

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
12. It's primary season, of course both candidates think that they can win the general election.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 02:04 PM
Jan 2016

What candidate would say: "Vote for me, although I doubt that I can win the general election."?

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