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Omaha Steve

(99,685 posts)
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 11:33 AM Jan 2016

Sanders predicts Mass. victory, says The Donald is dividing nation

Source: Boston Herald

Chris Villani

WORCESTER — Touting a strong fourth-quarter fundraising haul, Vermont U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders swung through the Bay State yesterday greeted by overflow crowds and with a bold proclamation for early March.

“Iowa has the first caucus in the nation and I think we are in striking distance of winning Iowa. New Hampshire has the first primary in the country and I think we are a little bit ahead in New Hampshire,” Sanders told the crowd. “And on March 1, Massachusetts has its primary. Don’t tell anyone, but we are going to win here.”

The remark drew the loudest ovation of the evening from the packed gymnasium at Worcester’s North High School. Sanders’ speech was well received, especially when he took swipes at Republican front-runner Donald Trump.

“We are not going to allow Donald Trump and these other people to divide us up,” Sanders said. “No, we are not going to hate Latinos. No, we are not going to hate Muslims. We are going to stand together and create a society and an economy that works for all of us.”

FULL story at link.


Credit: Chris Christo

BERNIE BELIEVERS: Bernie Sanders waves to the crowd as he enters a rally at North High School in Worcester yesterday.

Read more: http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/2016/01/sanders_predicts_mass_victory_says_the_donald_is_dividing_nation



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Sanders predicts Mass. victory, says The Donald is dividing nation (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jan 2016 OP
I, too, predict a mass victory!! retrowire Jan 2016 #1
+1 daleanime Jan 2016 #26
I don't think Mr Trump is dividing the country. malthaussen Jan 2016 #2
I agree tazkcmo Jan 2016 #3
Agree Proserpina Jan 2016 #9
Hillary should just give up. Helen Borg Jan 2016 #4
That would be nice. Go home and be Grandma. peacebird Jan 2016 #5
Divorce Bill and get to be herself, for once Proserpina Jan 2016 #7
Yeah! Helen Borg Jan 2016 #8
But "marriage is a sacred bond between a man & a woman" & Divernan Jan 2016 #16
French ones? Proserpina Jan 2016 #20
You and Trump seem so obsessed with Bill's sex life. SunSeeker Jan 2016 #27
I think that is a wonderful suggestion. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #13
She's the billionaire choice, they will pay her to say. They and corporations are her superpacts. trillion Jan 2016 #28
Hillary is almost 30 points ahead in Massachusetts. The polls are not budging. nt onehandle Jan 2016 #6
on land lines roguevalley Jan 2016 #11
Time to retire that tired meme hack89 Jan 2016 #12
And most people don't answer. Helen Borg Jan 2016 #14
Right hack89 Jan 2016 #17
That is correct. The names/numbers are not listed. AikidoSoul Jan 2016 #24
If polls represented actual votes then I'd agree you had something, ValasHune Jan 2016 #19
Totally false! Helen Borg Jan 2016 #21
Awright....who Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #25
Unless Hillary's paid staffers and hired PR firm people brentspeak Jan 2016 #23
the base Eric J in MN Jan 2016 #10
The Massachusetts Dem primary BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 #15
Bernie!! AzDar Jan 2016 #18
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #22
Didn't Hillary have a HUGE crowd is Mass a few months back? left-of-center2012 Jan 2016 #29

malthaussen

(17,215 posts)
2. I don't think Mr Trump is dividing the country.
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 11:51 AM
Jan 2016

I think the divisions were already there, and he is just capitalizing on them. Although I suppose it could be argued that by validating bigotry, he encourages bigots to come out of the closet. But is stealth bigotry so much preferable to overt bigotry?

-- Mal

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
9. Agree
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 12:15 PM
Jan 2016

He's making them deeper and stronger, cementing prejudice into unsurmountable walls.

Bernie is the complete opposite. He knows how to bring people together in common interest. Bernie will bring down those walls, and make the opposition feel good about it at the same time.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
16. But "marriage is a sacred bond between a man & a woman" &
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 01:09 PM
Jan 2016

a series of "narcissistic looneytoons" who cleverly seduce said man. Have I got that right?
http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4535174/hillary-clinton-gay-marriage-2004

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/208757-clinton-doesnt-deny-narcissistic-looney-tune

Clinton won't deny 'narcissistic looney tune' comments about Monica Lewinsky
In a case of silence speaking louder than words, Hillary Clinton did not deny dismissing Monica Lewinsky as a “narcissistic loony tune” after Lewinsky’s affair with her husband went public.


Hillary believes in the "till death do us part" part of the marriage vows, just has never held Bill to honoring the "forsaking all others" part.

Yeah, yeah . . . I know . . . all those followers who indignantly proclaim that what goes on in the Clinton marriage is their own decision.

However, when Bill indulged his extramarital sexual appetites in such a reckless manner that they were on public display for all the world to see, and Hillary repeatedly not only excused his behavior, but blamed his victims as narcissistic looney toons and bimbos - well, as they say in court, the Clintons have opened the door to cross-examination on their "marriage".

Can anyone name me a male candidate for president, let alone actual president, or for that matter male or female head of state in any country in history, who has had a spouse who has publicly and repeatedly humiliated said head of state by decades of serial adultery?

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
20. French ones?
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 01:24 PM
Jan 2016

Hollande, Francois Mitterrand, Felix Faure, Napoleon

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/01/14/french-more-accepting-of-infidelity-than-people-in-other-countries/

Nicolas Sarkozy AND his wife... it's a lifestyle of the rich and powerful.

Americans are 84% against adultery....that still leaves a lot of hanky-panky going on.

SunSeeker

(51,621 posts)
27. You and Trump seem so obsessed with Bill's sex life.
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 03:58 PM
Jan 2016

You should listen to your own candidate, who says we should stick to the issues that matter.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141302290


But if you just love hearing about such things, I suggest you read some good biographies on FDR and Eleanor, who both had very separate ("publicly and repeatedly"!) sex lives or one on JFK. The difference was the press was not quick to report FDR's and JFK's affairs as they were Bill's, and they did not have the GOP/Starr pushing it into the headlines.

It seems Bill has slowed down considerably as he aged. I have not heard of one, let alone "public and repeated" acts, since the Lewinsky affair. FBR, on the other hand, suffered his final collapse in the company of his mistress. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/28/AR2010072805917.html I still think FDR was a great man, and so is Bill. And Eleanor was a great woman, and so is Hillary.

 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
28. She's the billionaire choice, they will pay her to say. They and corporations are her superpacts.
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 04:04 PM
Jan 2016

I expect her to stay but I expect Bernie to win as soon as Dems start listening to him.

We do need to reach people like my mother - a 71 yo TV watcher because she still thinks Hillary is our best choice. She thinks Bernie is fringe. she's been watching Fox for years - yeah, while she doesn't vote right wing it's her fav tv station. Did I mention she's 71. I keep having to correct her on immigrants not being the biggest issue our country faces. Imagine someone who can't stand Donald Trump or any of the repubs watching fox news every day... it's not uncommon for the seniors. Bernie does need to reach people like her. Standing up to Trump will likely do it.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
12. Time to retire that tired meme
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 12:50 PM
Jan 2016

i think we all should know by now that most polling companies call cell phones too.

ValasHune

(38 posts)
19. If polls represented actual votes then I'd agree you had something,
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 01:21 PM
Jan 2016

but polls do not represent actual votes.

Now if you look back at all the Bodies that actually showed up and are still showing up to Bernie's Rallies... those do represent an actual vote more than any poll ever could. How many hundreds, thousands, and tens of thousands has Bernie pulled into arenas all across the nation, most of them packed out, and he still go's outside to talk to the thousands outside in overflow.

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
23. Unless Hillary's paid staffers and hired PR firm people
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 02:05 PM
Jan 2016

get to vote multiple times, Bernie will get the majority of votes.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
10. the base
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 12:31 PM
Jan 2016
Sanders played to his base, focusing on issues like wealth inequality, climate change, equal pay for women and paid family leave.


Bernie Sanders is the most liberal US Senator. There aren't many topics he could bring up where he'd be in disagreement with the base.

BlueMTexpat

(15,370 posts)
15. The Massachusetts Dem primary
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 01:02 PM
Jan 2016

is set for March 1. Since October, the polls have had Hillary well in the lead, with not much variation.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ma/massachusetts_democratic_presidential_primary-3891.html There would have to be literally a thirty point or so swing in Bernie's favor in less than two months. Still, stranger things have happened, I suppose.

For those who love to compare 2008 when HRC last campaigned for the Presidency with 2016, Clinton led Obama by a smaller margin in Mass primary polls than she now leads Bernie. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/ma/massachusetts_democratic_primary-539.html

Massachusetts was part of the Super Tuesday primary states in 2008 and moved its primaries to March 1 for the 2016 election to have a greater impact in the GE selection. In 2008, Barack Obama received several major endorsements, including both Senators Ted Kennedy and John Kerry, Caroline Kennedy, Governor Deval Patrick, and superdelegates including Rep. Barney Frank. Hillary still won a convincing victory in the state. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Massachusetts,_2008#Democratic

Bernie's statements about winning in Massachusetts in 2016 are optimistic, but perhaps not too realistic in the circumstances. Still, more power to him. Hillary is taking nothing for granted anywhere, is working very hard in every state, and is a much stronger candidate than she was in 2008.


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