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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 08:22 PM Dec 2015

U.S. Carrier Harry S. Truman Has Close Call With Iranian Rockets

Last edited Tue Dec 29, 2015, 09:52 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: NBC NEWS

EXCLUSIVE NEWS DEC 29 2015, 4:57 PM ET
by JIM MIKLASZEWSKI and COURTNEY KUBE

The U.S. aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman came about 1,500 yards from an Iranian rocket in the Strait of Hormuz last week, two U.S. military officials told NBC News on Tuesday.

As the Truman was transiting the strait, which connects the Arabian Sea and the Persian Gulf, Iranian Revolutionary Guards conducted a live-fire exercise right near the U.S. carrier Saturday, officials said.

A U.S. military official said an Iranian navy fast and short attack craft began conducting a live-fire exercise at the same time the carrier was nearing the end of the strait, firing off several unguided rockets. A French frigate, the U.S. destroyer USS Buckley and other commercial traffic were also in the area.

The official said the U.S. ships were in the "internationally recognized maritime traffic lane" at the time, not in any territorial waters, when the Iranian navy announced over maritime radio that it was about to conduct a live-fire exercise and asked other vessels to remain clear.

Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u-s-carrier-harry-s-truman-has-close-call-iranian-n487536

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U.S. Carrier Harry S. Truman Has Close Call With Iranian Rockets (Original Post) Purveyor Dec 2015 OP
That is a really good way to start a war. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2015 #1
No shit. Thank goodness it missed. yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #2
For those who just cant bring themselves to vote for Hillary, ask yourself which of the cons you randys1 Dec 2015 #3
I support Sanders. christx30 Dec 2015 #4
Hillary would retaliate in a heartbeat. Ikonoklast Dec 2015 #5
They missed by a mile underpants Dec 2015 #6
+1 Owl Dec 2015 #10
The article I read yesterday said that they fired in the opposite direction of the ships. Fuddnik Dec 2015 #16
The article states that they were launched in a direction away from the ship. 7962 Dec 2015 #7
There's no period after the "S" jberryhill Dec 2015 #8
Per the Truman library, christx30 Dec 2015 #9
The article you linked says the opposite kirby Dec 2015 #17
I knew this however per sop for LBN, original title must be Purveyor Dec 2015 #11
I appreciate you posting the articles davidpdx Dec 2015 #12
I was informed of this by a college professor (in red ink) Gore1FL Dec 2015 #13
Not bad jberryhill Dec 2015 #14
You were correct... kirby Dec 2015 #18
The U.S. neo-con war has positioned the U.S. military-- Peace Patriot Dec 2015 #15
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
2. No shit. Thank goodness it missed.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 08:25 PM
Dec 2015

The world would implode if that hit the carrier. The president would have to act.....what? I don't know and glad we don't have to find out.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
3. For those who just cant bring themselves to vote for Hillary, ask yourself which of the cons you
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 08:25 PM
Dec 2015

want in the WH when this happens again.

Cruz?

Dear god

Trump

please

Rubio

sure, you bet...

christx30

(6,241 posts)
4. I support Sanders.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 08:41 PM
Dec 2015

That said, I think you are absolutely right. I'd rather Clinton has the office in that situation before Trump or Cruz. Trump would be on TV 45 minutes after the attack (even if it was accidental) promising to rain hell fire on those godless heathens that dared to tangle with the US Navy, then all Hell would break loose.
I'd prefer Sanders in the office (voting for him in the primary), but I think Hillary would be safer for the country than the alternative, so I'll vote for her in the general.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
5. Hillary would retaliate in a heartbeat.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 08:47 PM
Dec 2015

Anything to carry water for Israel against Iran?

You bet, Hillary would be right on top of that.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
16. The article I read yesterday said that they fired in the opposite direction of the ships.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:37 AM
Dec 2015

So the reality is, the US ships were nearly a mile away from where the Iranians launched the rockets. And where they landed was a lot further away.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
7. The article states that they were launched in a direction away from the ship.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 09:12 PM
Dec 2015

So the Iranian ships were close, but firing further away.
Still a very stupid move on their part and obviously intentional to provoke & scare the ships. An unguided rocket like that wouldve been blasted out of the sky by a Phalanx or some other defensive weapon on one of the surrounding ships.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
9. Per the Truman library,
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 09:36 PM
Dec 2015

you're absolutely right.

http://www.trumanlibrary.org/speriod.htm

Funny and interesting. Never considered anyone having just a letter as a middle name.

kirby

(4,442 posts)
17. The article you linked says the opposite
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 12:54 PM
Dec 2015

I was curious and read the Truman library link you mentioned and it actually says the exact opposite.

"The evidence provided by Mr. Truman's own practice argues strongly for the use of the period. "

Did I miss something?

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
11. I knew this however per sop for LBN, original title must be
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 09:54 PM
Dec 2015

used.

There are 'teams' of hosts who spend their day just looking for a reason to lock my threads so I don't dare alter even a lowly 'period'.

Gore1FL

(21,151 posts)
13. I was informed of this by a college professor (in red ink)
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 11:51 PM
Dec 2015

I stayed after class and halfheartedly argued that in using the period, I was simply abbreviating it!

kirby

(4,442 posts)
18. You were correct...
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 01:00 PM
Dec 2015

According to another poster, http://www.trumanlibrary.org/speriod.htm gives info about using the period after S. It even mentioned several English Style manuals saying you should use it.

"Several widely recognized style manuals provide guidance in favor of using the period. According to The Chicago Manual of Style all initials given with a name should "for convenience and consistency" be followed by a period even if they are not abbreviations of names. The U.S. Government Printing Office Style Manual states that the period should be used after the "S" in Harry S. Truman's name. "

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
15. The U.S. neo-con war has positioned the U.S. military--
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 05:43 AM
Dec 2015

---including, of course, the U.S. Navy, the U.S. Air Force and other U.S. forces--throughout this tinderbox region of the planet. The situation is made-to-order for more war.

I'm reminded of Vietnam and the manufactured incident in the Gulf of Tonkin that resulted in more than 55,000 U.S. soldier deaths, and the deaths of 2 million Southeast Asians. The CIA, or some cabal within the U.S. military that wants another big war, have plenty of opportunity to create one right now. The warmongers simply tell big fat lies, and sometimes decades go by before "we, the people" know how we were conned.

I say we should withdraw the U.S. military from the Middle East, and let the hugely corrupt regimes of Saudi Arabia and Israel deal with their own goddamned mess. They drew us into the region in collusion with U.S. neo-cons and all the war profiteers. We should get out, now, before the inevitable happens and we get sucked into another major war. We should rely solely on diplomacy, on non-military aid where needed, and on strengthening of our own democracy and international institutions such as the U.N.--both badly, badly needed strengthenings--to help create a more peaceful world. The U.S. military will NEVER help create a more peaceful world. Its glory days as the winner of WW II are OVER. It is now merely a mercenary force, at the beck and call of unscrupulous fascists and resource thieves, with war profiteers plundering it (and us) at every turn.

A mercenary force in a tinderbox. Horrors are on-going, many of them inflicted by this mercenary force as well as by its scuttlebutt agencies (the CIA, et al). But much bigger horrors threaten.

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