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Stuart G

(38,440 posts)
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 10:57 PM Dec 2015

Explosive Documenary links Manning to Growth Hormone

Source: Huff Post:

An Indianapolis anti-aging clinic supplied quarterback Peyton Manning with human growth hormone, a performance-enhancing drug banned by the NFL, a pharmacist who once worked at the clinic asserts in a new special report from Al Jazeera’s Investigative Unit.

The report, “The Dark Side,” is the result of a monthslong investigation in which Liam Collins, a British hurdler, went undercover in an attempt to expose the widespread nature of performance-enhancing drugs in global sports. As a cover story, Collins tells medical professionals tied to the trade of performance-enhancing drugs that he is hoping for one last shot at glory at the 2016 Olympics in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Manning is just one of many high-profile players the report names and raises questions about

As part of the investigation, Collins connected with Charlie Sly, a pharmacist based in Austin, Texas, who worked at the Guyer Institute, the Indiana-based anti-aging clinic, in 2011.

Manning missed the 2011 season, when he was a member of the Indianapolis Colts, after undergoing neck surgery. In the documentary, Sly tells Collins, who is taking secret video of his interactions, that he was “part of a medical team that helped [Manning] recover” from the surgery. Sly alleges that the clinic mailed growth hormone and other drugs to Manning’s wife, Ashley Manning, so that the quarterback’s name was never attached to them.



Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/peyton-manning-human-growth-hormone_567f16e4e4b0b958f6599440

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Explosive Documenary links Manning to Growth Hormone (Original Post) Stuart G Dec 2015 OP
Peyton Manning? Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #1
"Shooting 'roids will make you wide" forest444 Dec 2015 #2
The NFL's Stringent Response: Grassy Knoll Dec 2015 #3
If I was Joeybee12 I'd put you on ignore. El Supremo Dec 2015 #4
Even if he did it probably won't matter. draa Dec 2015 #5
It happened near the end of his career left-of-center2012 Dec 2015 #10
He has played 18 years. draa Dec 2015 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Dec 2015 #14
I agree. tazkcmo Dec 2015 #13
When I read the title of this thread, Snobblevitch Dec 2015 #6
Me, too XemaSab Dec 2015 #8
I clicked on this too for that. I would have skipped Peyton. trillion Dec 2015 #9
same for me. I could care less about some sports asshole. nt m-lekktor Dec 2015 #21
I actually have more interest in Snobblevitch Dec 2015 #22
A local pediatrician pushed this on parents. Divernan Dec 2015 #7
Perhaps I am crazy but his head looks bigger than 20yrs ago. Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #12
Now that you mention it... bdwker Dec 2015 #15
Acromegaly TexasBushwhacker Dec 2015 #17
I always hear about people's heads getting larger is a dead giveaway.... HOWEVER groundloop Dec 2015 #23
Juiceeeee!! But, falls flat... asiliveandbreathe Dec 2015 #16
Wow, NFL.com actually ALLOWED this news some coverage! vkkv Dec 2015 #18
Pretty sure he's innocent if he has brought in Ari Fleischer to speak for him 6chars Dec 2015 #19
The Mannings gave money to Jeb! LuvNewcastle Dec 2015 #27
Manning is also spokesman and best buds with the Papa John douchebag n/t underpants Dec 2015 #28
It appears this story will turn out to be false. The Sunday NFL shows are now finding out that the 4lbs Dec 2015 #20
Yes, so far it just doesn't seem credible.... I'm withholding judgement awaiting more facts groundloop Dec 2015 #24
The willingness to risk all of ones health on a game. FarPoint Dec 2015 #25
Just how explosive was the story davidpdx Dec 2015 #26
 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
1. Peyton Manning?
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 11:13 PM
Dec 2015

That would be huge.

I am waiting for the shoe to drop on the Jamaican sprinters. It WILL happen some day.

draa

(975 posts)
5. Even if he did it probably won't matter.
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 11:33 PM
Dec 2015

It happened near the end of his career after a surgery that could have left him paralyzed. I doubt it was done to gain a competitive advantage and he was most likely tying to prolong a career that should have been over (he wanted sb win #2 I'm sure). He's also retiring after this season so I doubt anything comes from this.

I say that as a Jags fan and believe me, I hated that bastard when he was with the Colts.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
10. It happened near the end of his career
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 02:48 AM
Dec 2015

Actually he played until his most recent injury, and may be back active soon.

draa

(975 posts)
11. He has played 18 years.
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 03:23 AM
Dec 2015

He sat out 2011 and has played 3.5 years since returning in 2012. Yes, I'd call that the end of his career.

And I'm not certain he'll be back before playoffs (if then). I also believe he's likely to retire after this season. He has no other reason to play and his arm is done.

Response to draa (Reply #11)

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
13. I agree.
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 09:24 AM
Dec 2015

The last thing Manning needed to do was cheat to gain a competitive advantage. He was already the best QB in the league, imo. If he did take HGH it was to speed the healing of his neck. I don't need this to "hate" him. His arrogance and partnership with Papa John's is enough for me. Oh, and the fact that he didn't play for my team! lol

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
22. I actually have more interest in
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 10:14 PM
Dec 2015

Manning the football player rather than Manning the treasonous bastard.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
7. A local pediatrician pushed this on parents.
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 12:42 AM
Dec 2015

Results - a cohort of local kids with legs like giraffes & all 6 inches taller than their same sex parent.The treatment was very expensive and not covered by health insurance. One couple I have known very well for decades spent over $500 per month EACH on their 2 sons for several years of HGH injections. The clever pediatrician sold the 5'8", unathletic father by telling him tall boys are better athletes and tall men are more attractive to women.

So with a 5'8" father and a 5'4" mother, both of their sons grew to 6'4" tall. Both boys, now in their 30's are ungainly and awkward and have never participated in sports at an individual or team level. But, by God, they are TALL! Despite the pediatrician's promise to good old Dad that tall men were more attractive to women, neither was able to find a girl friend (or boy friend) in high school or college years. The oldest is a really sweet, very religious guy (on her deathbed, when he was 15, his mother made him vow to remain a virgin until he married - he's a very devout Catholic) and has never been able to find a partner; the other son spent his later teenage years and most of his 20's proudly proclaiming he was a bisexual transvestite and clubbing & drugging with others of like convictions. A few years ago, he finally found a girl friend who was determined to "save him" and has dropped the sexual diversity and the weekends spent doing Lady Gaga impersonations and wearing meat dresses.

How were their respective sex drives, or lack thereof, affected by massive doses of HGH in their early years? Some studies of men who took this drug as adults showed a decrease in libido as a possible side effect. I have not come across any studies of long term impact on children put on years long HGH injection regimens.

What the fuck does their pediatrician care how about long term impacts or how these kids turned out? He's made his fortune in kickbacks from Big Pharma.

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
12. Perhaps I am crazy but his head looks bigger than 20yrs ago.
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 03:39 AM
Dec 2015

Barry Bonds is a great example of how peoples skulls will grow with HGH and other things. Foot width tends to become exaggerated as well.

Totally anecdotal observations on my part.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,214 posts)
17. Acromegaly
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 01:02 PM
Dec 2015

An excess of growth hormone in adults can cause growth of the forehead and jaw, as well as thickening and lengthening of the bones in the limbs. Tony Robbins (motivational speaker) has it, as did Andre the Giant and Ted Cassidy (Lurch). It's hard on the liver and heart too.

groundloop

(11,522 posts)
23. I always hear about people's heads getting larger is a dead giveaway.... HOWEVER
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 11:35 PM
Dec 2015

My head is definitely wider than when I was in my 20's, yet I've NEVER taken any sort of steroid, HGH, etc. I'm just not buying that as being a dead giveaway. Oh yeah, my feet are a good bit wider than when I was in my 20's as well.... I just attribute that to hauling around my lard ass all those years.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
16. Juiceeeee!! But, falls flat...
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 12:20 PM
Dec 2015

IMHO - the act of mailing to wifeeepooo is so NOT smart -

Sly alleges that the clinic mailed growth hormone and other drugs to Manning’s wife, Ashley Manning, so that the quarterback’s name was never attached to them.



LMAO - and NO - I am not a Denver fan far from it.....

Go PATS!

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
18. Wow, NFL.com actually ALLOWED this news some coverage!
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 01:27 PM
Dec 2015
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000609544/article/peyton-manning-denies-report-he-used-hgh-in-2011



Manning released a statement Saturday night denying he's ever used HGH and calling the report "garbage" and "totally made up."

Later Manning elaborated in a statement to ESPN Chris Mortensen:

"Yes, I have been a patient under Dr. Guyer," Manning said. "I have had nutrient therapy, oxygen therapy and other treatments that are holistic in nature but never HGH. My wife has never provided any medication for me to take. Ashley and I never attended the clinic together after hours. There were times when I went in the morning and there were times when I went after practice so this thing about 'after hours' is so misleading because it may have been 5:15 pm because their office closed at 5."


Former White House press secretary Ari ( FLEABAG SLEAZEBAG) Fleischer, who is representing Manning, told NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport that the quarterback has never used HGH, never failed any league drug tests and that the report will not affect his playing status.

4lbs

(6,861 posts)
20. It appears this story will turn out to be false. The Sunday NFL shows are now finding out that the
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 03:38 PM
Dec 2015

source for this is very suspicious, and may have even lied about many of the details.

FarPoint

(12,437 posts)
25. The willingness to risk all of ones health on a game.
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 06:56 AM
Dec 2015

The pressure to win has defeated or destroyed many.

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