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MADem

(135,425 posts)
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 04:39 PM Dec 2015

Hours after grandson’s death, Jimmy Carter teaches Sunday school

Source: AJC.com

2:36 p.m. Sunday, Dec. 20, 2015 | Filed in: Local News

STORY HIGHLIGHTS
Jeremy Carter, 28, died early Sunday after his heart stopped at his family’s home in Peachtree City.



PLAINS — On Sunday, two weeks after making the cheerful announcement that there was no sign of cancer on his brain, former President Jimmy Carter shared much more somber news with his church family in Plains.

His grandson, 28-year-old Jeremy Carter, had died just hours earlier.

Sporting his typical bolo tie, the 91-year-old Carter arrived about 25 minutes late for his regular Sunday school class at Maranatha Baptist Church — the first time he’d ever been tardy, he said — and offered a surprising amount of insight into his family’s heartbreak before delivering his previously planned lesson.


But the fact that he appeared at all was the real message, attendees said.

“I’m not surprised,” Maranatha member Jan Williams said. “That’s the kind of Christian he is. Everything that happens in life, good or bad, he uses as a teaching experience. He lives his life as a lesson for other people to see.” (MUCH more at link)


Read more: http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/hours-after-grandsons-death-jimmy-carter-teaches-s/npn6n/



The "LBN" is that Jeremy Carter, Jimmy's grandson, has died--the Sunday school element is something he does routinely. What a shame, how sad for Jimmy. So close to a religious holiday that is important to them, too....
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Hours after grandson’s death, Jimmy Carter teaches Sunday school (Original Post) MADem Dec 2015 OP
The guy is one hell of a man, human, citizen, friend, and all around good joe. randys1 Dec 2015 #1
I agree. One of the things I really like about him is that he never stops learning and evolving. MADem Dec 2015 #2
Absolutely.... He is deserving of so much more in terms of respect and acknowledgement for all he hlthe2b Dec 2015 #14
How sad! 2naSalit Dec 2015 #3
The kid's heart just stopped. Unexpected. No foul play. 28 and ... poof. Gone. MADem Dec 2015 #17
Thanks for the info. 2naSalit Dec 2015 #31
One of Jimmy Carter's young relatives is the one who broke the story of the Romney 47% remark . . . brush Dec 2015 #46
No, it was James--he introduced the filmer, a bartender, to David Corn, who fired up the media. MADem Dec 2015 #47
Thanks, MaDem. brush Dec 2015 #48
Did he drink energy drinks by chance? J_J_ Dec 2015 #52
No idea. I've heard that about those things, though. MADem Dec 2015 #55
From the article .... thanx for posting Botany Dec 2015 #4
That is such sad news at a time that should bring happiness to the family. LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #5
I remember Ike and JFK, so I certainly remember Carter. All class. Faygo Kid Dec 2015 #6
I think Carter did pretty good considering what he had to work with. LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #7
A veto proof house 292 seats) and a majority senate (61 seats) yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #8
Attacking Jimmy Carter on a thread about his grandson? Kingofalldems Dec 2015 #10
indeed... really really ugly to do so... hlthe2b Dec 2015 #12
I guess the fact that everyone in DC hated the fact that a "no-name governor for GA" was elected. LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #13
I agree with most of this. TexasProgresive Dec 2015 #24
Yep... LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #25
Walter Cronkite, most respected newsman at the time, drove home No Vested Interest Dec 2015 #29
I thought that was Ted Koppel's NIGHTLINE. MADem Dec 2015 #37
Beginning with day 50 of the hostages' captivity, Walter Cronkite nightly ended his broadcast with No Vested Interest Dec 2015 #41
Well, I wasn't in USA at the time--I did get back towards the end but didn't see MADem Dec 2015 #43
I have great respect for Jimmy Carter. Spouse and I visited his No Vested Interest Dec 2015 #44
Wish I could rec this post of yours! How wonderful to have those MADem Dec 2015 #45
Could you clean up after Richard Nixon in 4 years? displacedtexan Dec 2015 #49
Ahhh... the simplicity of a mind allowing one merely the house and senate as obstacles LanternWaste Dec 2015 #50
Well it was his administration and he was leader of the country yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #53
My condolences to the family. 840high Dec 2015 #9
Heartbreaking. mountain grammy Dec 2015 #11
How terribly sad for the Carter family. Jimmy Carter is a saint, sufrommich Dec 2015 #15
Heartbreaking news MissDeeds Dec 2015 #16
So sad. brer cat Dec 2015 #18
The man should be canonized. PDittie Dec 2015 #19
Totally agree. narnian60 Dec 2015 #27
!!! 2naSalit Dec 2015 #33
Aw cindyperry Dec 2015 #20
Absolutley heartbreaking. City Lights Dec 2015 #21
So sad. Yes, Pres. Carter is something else. Duppers Dec 2015 #22
That sums it up. Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #54
Jeremy... Dont call me Shirley Dec 2015 #23
just imagine how much different this country would be if "christians" rurallib Dec 2015 #26
Jimmy Carter is a fine christian man, he left the SBC because of hate in the church. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #28
Condolences to the family. It does not surprise me that he jwirr Dec 2015 #30
In the Jewish tradition, the prayer said after a death is the Mourner's Kaddish Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2015 #57
Yes, thank you for that prayer. I had not seen it before. It jwirr Dec 2015 #58
Creepy. GeorgeGist Dec 2015 #32
Why creepy? You can't abandon the living, I think that's probably his attitude. MADem Dec 2015 #38
No doubt, bias drives your thought in that particular direction. LanternWaste Dec 2015 #51
I could respect Christians more NastyRiffraff Dec 2015 #34
This news, this situation, reminds me of a moment on Thirty-Something: Ilsa Dec 2015 #35
I'm so sorry -- their hearts must be broken... Hekate Dec 2015 #36
Condolences to President Carter and family montana_hazeleyes Dec 2015 #39
Heartbreaking news. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2015 #40
I wish both condolences and thanks to Jimmy Carter. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #42
Condolences to the family. 47of74 Dec 2015 #56
Poor Jimmy. liberalnarb Dec 2015 #59

MADem

(135,425 posts)
2. I agree. One of the things I really like about him is that he never stops learning and evolving.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 04:41 PM
Dec 2015

Every day he spends on earth, he works to be and do better.

It's a lesson I try to take to heart; I've got a long road before I ever get as good at it as Carter is....

hlthe2b

(102,276 posts)
14. Absolutely.... He is deserving of so much more in terms of respect and acknowledgement for all he
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 05:47 PM
Dec 2015

has accomplished.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
17. The kid's heart just stopped. Unexpected. No foul play. 28 and ... poof. Gone.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 06:05 PM
Dec 2015

Life is fleeting.

JC's heart must be aching right now.



This picture was taken in 2009, when Jeremy was 22, at a picnic in Turkey for "Global Elders" and their grandchildren where they focused on climate issues. Jeremy is the kid in the blue shirt.

2naSalit

(86,617 posts)
31. Thanks for the info.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 07:48 PM
Dec 2015

I lost a lot of people this past year and can totally relate, most were unexpected.

It's always worse when this happens during the holidays. I don't do much observing of holidays but I am respectful of what it means to others and for someone who is a true practitioner of his faith, I really feel for him and his family.

brush

(53,778 posts)
46. One of Jimmy Carter's young relatives is the one who broke the story of the Romney 47% remark . . .
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 06:51 AM
Dec 2015

Last edited Mon Dec 21, 2015, 07:36 AM - Edit history (1)

and got it out to the media.

Is this the young man who did that?

 

J_J_

(1,213 posts)
52. Did he drink energy drinks by chance?
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:30 PM
Dec 2015

There’s been a lot of controversy about caffeine-spiked energy drinks in recent years after a spate of deaths and overdoses related to the beverages. In one of the most heartbreaking cases, 14-year-old Anais Fournier of Maryland died after consuming two 24-ounce cans of an energy drink. The Food and Drug Administration has been studying such cases to determine if there’s a causal link and, if so, what to do about it....

Systolic blood pressure (the top number): 6.2 percent increase.

• Diastolic blood pressure (the bottom number): 6.8 percent increase.

• Average blood pressure: 6.4 percent increase.

Writing in JAMA, the researchers said these changes may predispose those who drink a single drink to increased cardiovascular risk.

This may explain why a number of those who died after consuming energy drinks appeared to have had heart attacks.

http://www.adn.com/article/20151112/after-downing-energy-drink-what-happens-body-kind-scary

Anyone else notice how many young people are dying of 'natural' causes these days with no real explanation?

Botany

(70,504 posts)
4. From the article .... thanx for posting
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 04:50 PM
Dec 2015

"He stayed through the full church service and took pictures with well-wishers afterward, not wanting to disappoint."


I was so young and stupid @ the time and I never understood what a good man you are ande were.

Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
6. I remember Ike and JFK, so I certainly remember Carter. All class.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 04:53 PM
Dec 2015

Jimmy Carter may not have been the best president, but he is the best ex-president ever, eclipsing John Quincy Adams. Sympathies, Jimmy, and thanks.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
8. A veto proof house 292 seats) and a majority senate (61 seats)
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 05:13 PM
Dec 2015

Nobody has it that good. What do you mean work with?

Kingofalldems

(38,458 posts)
10. Attacking Jimmy Carter on a thread about his grandson?
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 05:20 PM
Dec 2015

Reads like something from the conservative cave.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
13. I guess the fact that everyone in DC hated the fact that a "no-name governor for GA" was elected.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 05:43 PM
Dec 2015

And then the Arab oil boycott because of the Israel-Egypt peace accord. He accomplished a lot in 4 years, but Iranian hostage situation really did him in/

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
24. I agree with most of this.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 06:49 PM
Dec 2015

I think Iran-Contra is really what did him in. I think he would've been reelected but for Bush.

No Vested Interest

(5,166 posts)
29. Walter Cronkite, most respected newsman at the time, drove home
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 07:45 PM
Dec 2015

the fact that American hostages were still being held every evening, as he closed his newscasts with:

"100th ( or the appropriate daily count} day Americans are being held hostage " etc.

The daily drumbeat was devastating to Carter's election plans.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
37. I thought that was Ted Koppel's NIGHTLINE.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:18 PM
Dec 2015

That show was CREATED to provide hostage updates, and when that ended, it turned INTO "Nightline."

Koppel talks about the show, the challenge to Carter from Teddy Kennedy, etc., here:


No Vested Interest

(5,166 posts)
41. Beginning with day 50 of the hostages' captivity, Walter Cronkite nightly ended his broadcast with
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:22 AM
Dec 2015

"and that's the way it is - day (insert number) of the capitivity of American hostages".

This daily reminder of the humiliation continued - in prime time, as the evening news was in the 1970's- until day 444, when the hostages were released immediately after Ronald Reagan was sworn in as US president.

Since Cronkite was a fatherly figure, welcomed into Americans' homes each weekday evening, his statement had a profound effect, intended or unintended, of reflecting poorly on President Jimmy Carter.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
43. Well, I wasn't in USA at the time--I did get back towards the end but didn't see
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:31 AM
Dec 2015

much television. A lot of the TV that I have seen of that time has been more recently; nostalgia tapes and histories and so forth.

No Vested Interest

(5,166 posts)
44. I have great respect for Jimmy Carter. Spouse and I visited his
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:36 AM
Dec 2015

Sunday school class in the late 90's. Spouse was using a walker, so we were seated up front.
As is well known of Jimmy and Rosalyn, they posed for photos with each one who wanted after the service.
The photos have a place of honor on my mantle.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
49. Could you clean up after Richard Nixon in 4 years?
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 09:40 AM
Dec 2015

Carter was a wonderful president who is loved the world around.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
50. Ahhh... the simplicity of a mind allowing one merely the house and senate as obstacles
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:16 PM
Dec 2015

Ahhh... the simplicity of a mind allowing one merely the house and senate as obstacles to a presidency.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
53. Well it was his administration and he was leader of the country
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:16 PM
Dec 2015

So whatever it was. It was what it was.

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
16. Heartbreaking news
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 06:05 PM
Dec 2015

I'm sure those who knew and loved Jeremy are crushed by his sudden death and it coming at this time of year. My heart goes out to the Carter family. Such a terrible blow...

What a dear man he is, to go to his church, teach and stay for the full service. I'm sure it gave him a great deal of comfort.





2naSalit

(86,617 posts)
33. !!!
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 07:51 PM
Dec 2015

Good on you! I'm pretty close to atheist and I feel much the same way. I voted for that president and have never regretted it.

rurallib

(62,415 posts)
26. just imagine how much different this country would be if "christians"
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 06:50 PM
Dec 2015

practiced their faith the way Carter does.

So sorry to hear of such a sudden and stunning loss.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
28. Jimmy Carter is a fine christian man, he left the SBC because of hate in the church.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 07:04 PM
Dec 2015

I know how he felt about leaving, I did the same. He has worked hard on his housing project, always willing to give to others. I am so sorry to hear about his loss of his grandson. I bet Jimmy has many good memories of his grandson.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
30. Condolences to the family. It does not surprise me that he
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 07:45 PM
Dec 2015

taught his class and attended church. As a Christian I know that when this kind of event happens our faith is where we get our comfort from.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
57. In the Jewish tradition, the prayer said after a death is the Mourner's Kaddish
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 06:41 AM
Dec 2015
May God's great name be exalted and made holy in the world which God created according to his will.

May God's majesty be revealed in the days of our lifetime and the life of all Israel, to which we say "Amen".

Blessed be God's great name forever. Blessed, praised, honored, exalted, extolled, glorified, adored, and lauded be the name of the Holy One, beyond all earthly words and songs of blessing, praise, and comfort. To which we say "Amen".

May there be abundant peace from heaven, and life, for us and all Israel, to which we say "Amen".

May the One who creates peace on high, bring peace to us and to all Israel. To which we say "Amen".


This prayer is reminding us of our faith in God even though we mourn for a loved one. This is clearly the attitude Carter has as well.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
58. Yes, thank you for that prayer. I had not seen it before. It
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 12:28 PM
Dec 2015

does reflect the attitude of a Christian and is definitely something we carried over from the Jewish faith.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
38. Why creepy? You can't abandon the living, I think that's probably his attitude.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:26 PM
Dec 2015

I can't speak to his belief system, but he probably thinks his grandson is in "a better place," as they say.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
51. No doubt, bias drives your thought in that particular direction.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:17 PM
Dec 2015

No doubt, bias drives your thought in that particular direction.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
34. I could respect Christians more
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 08:47 PM
Dec 2015

as a whole if more of them were like Jimmy Carter. My condolences to him and his family.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
35. This news, this situation, reminds me of a moment on Thirty-Something:
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 09:48 PM
Dec 2015

The tall, blonde, Scandinavian-looking friend had just been killed in a massive car accident/pile-up. His friend's wife and her family and friends were celebrating her beating ovarian cancer. She's grief-stricken, but says something like, "He dies. But I get better," thinking about the irony, the suddenness and shock of the news.

Jimmy was cured. Jimmy got better. But his young grandson suddenly dies. It's a shocking thing to have to think about.

Prayers for this family.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
42. I wish both condolences and thanks to Jimmy Carter.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:29 AM
Dec 2015

What a great man. What a very sad day due to the loss of his grandson.

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