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Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:28 AM Dec 2015

Police: Football player killed shielding girls from gunfire

Source: Yahoo! News / AP

KNOXVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — A high school football player was killed as he shielded three girls from gunfire as several men went on a shooting spree in Tennessee, police said Friday.

The shootings that killed Zaevion Dobson, 15, began Thursday night, said Knoxville Police Chief David Rausch. The first person shot was Lisa Perry, 46, who was inside her apartment at the time. She is expected to survive.

Rausch said Perry's 23-year-old son, Brandon Perry, and several other men then drove to the neighborhood where Dobson lived and "randomly fired multiple times."

The girls shielded by Dobson were not hurt, he said.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/police-football-player-killed-shielding-girls-gunfire-181634938.html

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Police: Football player killed shielding girls from gunfire (Original Post) Little Tich Dec 2015 OP
What a hero Zaevion Dobson was to give his own life to protect three others Samantha Dec 2015 #1
Guns: Now Killing More Americans Than Cars. onehandle Dec 2015 #2
Yeah, liability insurance for a start Warpy Dec 2015 #4
Never happen. Too late for that. Too many out there. 7962 Dec 2015 #9
Yeah, let's do nothing. That's a better plan. tabasco Dec 2015 #17
+ 1000 They_Live Dec 2015 #20
If it will make you fell better, go for it. It just wont do anything. 7962 Dec 2015 #23
Not just laws for using a weapon in comission of a crime... Jerry442 Dec 2015 #30
That IS happening more now. 2 stories I saw just recently 7962 Dec 2015 #39
Yeah! Heck, we're still O.K. n/t Judi Lynn Dec 2015 #37
I have it and trust me, it is not sky high hack89 Dec 2015 #11
I doubt your insurance company ever asked if you had any. 7962 Dec 2015 #24
They don't ask because they don't care. There is no financial risk to them from guns. nt hack89 Dec 2015 #25
First, provide a pool of money available for people injured by gun violence Warpy Dec 2015 #34
What good would liability insurance do? ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #33
jingle bells jingle bells ho ho ho passiveporcupine Dec 2015 #3
This Will Continue.... cynzke Dec 2015 #5
Agree totally. northoftheborder Dec 2015 #10
You are right. Gang culture is a cancer on America. Nt hack89 Dec 2015 #12
Psych eval's of shooters should become a federal requisite so research can be more robust. Nt JudyM Dec 2015 #40
RIP bigwillq Dec 2015 #6
"Shooting spree" lastlib Dec 2015 #7
Time to eliminate gangs. They cannot be tolerated. Nt hack89 Dec 2015 #13
I've been hearing that since the 80's. christx30 Dec 2015 #19
They are a cancer on our society. Yet in many cities, ignored. 7962 Dec 2015 #26
... Chan790 Dec 2015 #8
Don't ya really mean. JonathanRackham Dec 2015 #29
That too. n/t Chan790 Dec 2015 #38
one brave kid dembotoz Dec 2015 #14
Not Syrian Refugees... again. ck4829 Dec 2015 #15
Zaevion Dobson gave his life in defense of innocent people tabasco Dec 2015 #16
Anyone else left scratching their head EL34x4 Dec 2015 #18
Nothing involving gangs shocks me anymore. nt hack89 Dec 2015 #22
Here is a photo of the selfless Zaevion uppityperson Dec 2015 #21
How shocked and heartbroken his loved ones are knowing they'll never see him again. Thank you. n/t Judi Lynn Dec 2015 #36
another massacre. Javaman Dec 2015 #27
So who will be the first to say we can not talk about gun control because the emotions keep us Agnosticsherbet Dec 2015 #28
Sad. Loss XanGo Dec 2015 #31
k&r Liberal_in_LA Dec 2015 #32
Thanksgiving should be a new kind of day for these three girls whose lives were kept safe for them Judi Lynn Dec 2015 #35

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
1. What a hero Zaevion Dobson was to give his own life to protect three others
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:07 AM
Dec 2015

It is not everyday we see courage this remarkable. I hope something special can be done in his memory.

Sam

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
2. Guns: Now Killing More Americans Than Cars.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:13 AM
Dec 2015

They should be regulated stronger than cars.

Pay up, gun fucks.

Warpy

(111,282 posts)
4. Yeah, liability insurance for a start
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:57 AM
Dec 2015

Sky high on semi auto anything, especially pistols, sky high for anyone without proof of taking a safety course, sky high in cities, and cheaper than dirt on the type of long guns rural people take hunting and use to keep predators away from stock.

And yes, if I moved to a rural area out here, I'd have a shotgun. I'm not anti gun. I'm just anti half wits with firepower.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
9. Never happen. Too late for that. Too many out there.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:30 AM
Dec 2015

Not to mention that 99% of the people who do shit like this would never pay up even if there WAS a law requiring it.
Impossible to enforce too. Nobody knows what you own or how many I have.
Its just like banning handguns; you really think people like the ones mentioned in this story would turn in their guns? They're probably ALREADY criminals so whats one more law to ignore?

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
23. If it will make you fell better, go for it. It just wont do anything.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:00 PM
Dec 2015

I'm just giving the reality that it wouldnt stop shit like this. The PEOPLE are the problem.
No one knows what or how many weapons you or anyone else has in their home. No law is going to change that. Nobody would buy insurance in any number. Thats just the way it is. And no restrictive law will get people to turn in what they have either. Besides, you can already be sued if you shoot someone. Just like you can be sued for hurting them in other ways. Unless its justified.
Laws increasing punishment for using a weapon could have an impact. I've seen it locally; fewer gang arrests here are gun related because a few years back the punishment for your crime was doubled if you were using a weapon. The crime is still here, but gun usage has dropped.

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
30. Not just laws for using a weapon in comission of a crime...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 05:00 PM
Dec 2015

...but also to find a way to get appropriate legal judgments against people who are negligent in handling of firearms. How many times have we seen a story that goes something like, "...died when a child picked up a handgun left on a coffee table. No charges will be filed."

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
39. That IS happening more now. 2 stories I saw just recently
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:10 PM
Dec 2015

1 in Chicago and the other somewhere in Louisiana. Parents charged after a kid used a gun. One for the kid taking a gun to school.
And yes that should be the norm for this. If you leave one sitting around where your kid can get it, you oughta get charged

hack89

(39,171 posts)
11. I have it and trust me, it is not sky high
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:29 AM
Dec 2015

because there are few actual gun accidents relative to the number of gun owners it costs a pittance because the risk is very low. Don't forget insurance companies don't pay out for crime or criminal negligence.

There is a reason my safe full of guns has no impact on my home owners policy while my neighbor's pool raised his premiums.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
24. I doubt your insurance company ever asked if you had any.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:01 PM
Dec 2015

But they sure do ask about that pool!

Warpy

(111,282 posts)
34. First, provide a pool of money available for people injured by gun violence
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 07:00 PM
Dec 2015

or compensation for the loss of family members. Second, by kicking people hard enough in the wallet that Joe Suburb suddenly feels disinclined to hoard weapons. Third, to provide a legal mechanism to confiscate guns from scofflaws, meaning criminals and people with loose political screws.

ETA: This posted in the wrong place, it belongs down below.

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
5. This Will Continue....
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 08:21 AM
Dec 2015

As long as we refuse to realize we have created a culture that PROMOTES the idea using a gun is an acceptable method to solving someone's problems. This concept is continually fostered through the media thousands of times a year. Movies, TV shows, comics and video games, the most common source used to promote this theme. Don't like someone, mad at the world, think you have been disrespected, well that can ALL be remedied with a gun. Just blast away. And people refuse to accept the fact that there is a correlation between the two. They excuse the obvious by saying the violence portrayed in the media is only make believe and people are aware of that. Well OBVIOUSLY a LOT of people are taking the idea that using violence is acceptable. So many times it turns out to be young men in their teens and twenties. The parents have no idea how much their sons are affected by our addiction to violence, until the kid goes out on a murder spree. We need an awareness campaign against overly violent content in media. A few seconds rating/warning at the beginning of a movie or program is not enough. I don't suggest censorship, just that we need to start speaking out and rejecting the message. When we lose victims to senseless acts of violence, many times the responsible party is a victim too. He/she loses their own lives in the process. The potential for a productive life is thrown away when someone succumbs to the hyped delusional lure that picking up and using a gun to kill someone will solve problems.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
19. I've been hearing that since the 80's.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:36 PM
Dec 2015

Nothing has ever been done.
I almost said something about gangs (specifically Tookie Williams) that would have probably gotten me banned.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
26. They are a cancer on our society. Yet in many cities, ignored.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:03 PM
Dec 2015

The right pressure could reduce these types of criminals, but politicians are scared of doing whats needed

dembotoz

(16,808 posts)
14. one brave kid
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:35 AM
Dec 2015

i hope my kids and i would act the same way
than again
i hope my kids would not

Zaevion Dobson you are a hero

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
16. Zaevion Dobson gave his life in defense of innocent people
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:10 PM
Dec 2015

He didn't hesitate. He put himself in the line of fire.

We lost a wonderful human being of the rarest kind.

Javaman

(62,531 posts)
27. another massacre.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:05 PM
Dec 2015

I refuse to call them "mass shootings" anymore. I'm calling them what they are; massacres.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
28. So who will be the first to say we can not talk about gun control because the emotions keep us
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:15 PM
Dec 2015

from being logical.

Judi Lynn

(160,551 posts)
35. Thanksgiving should be a new kind of day for these three girls whose lives were kept safe for them
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 07:45 PM
Dec 2015

by this selfless young man.

How much more blood, agony, how many lost lives will gush out across this country until many people are courageous enough to fire all the filthy Congressmen who have been whoring themselves out to the gun industry?

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