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Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:58 AM Dec 2015

Turing Pharmaceuticals CEO Shkreli arrested by FBI: Reuters

Source: CNBC

Pharmaceutical entrepreneur Martin Shkreli was arrested by the FBI on Thursday, amid a federal investigation related to his former hedge fund and a drug company he previously headed.

The previously disclosed investigation of Shkreli, 32, who is now chief executive of Turing Pharmaceuticals, stemmed from his time as manager of hedge fund MSMB Capital Management and chief executive of biopharmaceutical company Retrophin Inc .

His arrest, witnessed by Reuters, comes amid a continuing separate controversy that has turned Shkreli into a lightning rod for growing outrage over the soaring prices of prescription drugs.

Read more: http://www.cnbc.com/2015/12/17/turing-pharmaceuticals-ceo-shkreli-arrested-by-fbi-reuters.html



Couldn't happen to a nicer guy!
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Turing Pharmaceuticals CEO Shkreli arrested by FBI: Reuters (Original Post) Nye Bevan Dec 2015 OP
Ha! Itchinjim Dec 2015 #1
Or as I like to think of it; Christmas came early Bubzer Dec 2015 #48
Yes indeed Liberal_in_LA Dec 2015 #71
Woo Hoo!! longship Dec 2015 #2
A true Xmas present for America and the world Proserpina Dec 2015 #3
Perp. Walk . He is no longer smirking Liberal_in_LA Dec 2015 #80
He's wearing The Shroud of Turing. Kingofalldems Dec 2015 #122
Lol. Duzy Liberal_in_LA Dec 2015 #133
Thankyou for posting these. I don't take much pleasure in other people's problems.... marble falls Dec 2015 #148
Find the webcam footage of him christx30 Dec 2015 #151
In response to HIV folks possibly not being able to afford the drug he posted Liberal_in_LA Dec 2015 #152
Karma rolls clear around. I bet he's finally an outside PR firm. I see him taking his.... marble falls Dec 2015 #153
Yes!!!!! (nt) paleotn Dec 2015 #4
I'm sure that Big Pharma is having a cow. yardwork Dec 2015 #5
This has to do with ripping off his FORMER company, not the price increases 7962 Dec 2015 #14
Yeah, Karma's a bitch Tab Dec 2015 #24
I'm saying that they will help the Feds take him down. yardwork Dec 2015 #32
I sure hope so. They certainly would have the resources to assist. 7962 Dec 2015 #42
This has to do with being a bigshot on the gouging story sparking an investigation into his life... pipoman Dec 2015 #50
Retrophin had already filed suit for 65 million & reported him to the feds 7962 Dec 2015 #62
Exactly iandhr Dec 2015 #93
yes but angryvet Dec 2015 #126
The FIRST time I've ever seen him without that smirk! 7962 Dec 2015 #130
Hedge fund owners are blood-sucking grifters - all of them! Divernan Dec 2015 #6
The wheel of Karma grinds slowly but it grinds exceedingly fine. hobbit709 Dec 2015 #7
Perfect! FailureToCommunicate Dec 2015 #17
Just LOOK at that confident grin Plucketeer Dec 2015 #60
it's not masked very well Kalidurga Dec 2015 #102
I will disagree - I knew it would catch up to him eventually, but not bullwinkle428 Dec 2015 #30
Arrested for openly carrying a smug, shit-eating grin Orrex Dec 2015 #8
+1 joshcryer Dec 2015 #22
You just knew this asshole would go down sooner than later titaniumsalute Dec 2015 #9
He's another ponzi scheme hedge funder harun Dec 2015 #128
You might call this Pharma Karma. It made my day. Vinca Dec 2015 #10
Love that! Pharma Karma. stolen. :-) eom LittleGirl Dec 2015 #19
Pharma Karma.. excellent! mountain grammy Dec 2015 #51
He wasn't arrested for price gouging medication like 5000% KeepItReal Dec 2015 #11
The free market reacted very quickly to his price gouging metalbot Dec 2015 #12
Hedge fund owners are slick grifters & generally bad news. Divernan Dec 2015 #38
Too much supply of capital and too little demand for it. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #107
Very, very wise observations! Divernan Dec 2015 #109
Proving Al Capone was a bitch Tab Dec 2015 #26
Aslong as he stays there for a long time passiveporcupine Dec 2015 #118
You should read Eliot Ness' book jmowreader Dec 2015 #119
Karma! Tripper11 Dec 2015 #13
+1. closeupready Dec 2015 #73
No wonder he jacked up the price of the drug nitpicker Dec 2015 #15
There are a few things I've hoped would happen to him and this is one, 7962 Dec 2015 #16
It would be a reluctant hide drmeow Dec 2015 #91
Link to Bloomberg nitpicker Dec 2015 #18
Here's what another Biotech CEO said about Shkreli's company: 7962 Dec 2015 #20
Exactly How Did He Get There? ProfessorGAC Dec 2015 #82
EXACTLY what he is. Here's a history: He started Turing after Retrophin's BoD fired him; 7962 Dec 2015 #94
Great Facts ProfessorGAC Dec 2015 #108
There are no requirements to starting a company and calling yourself the boss. 7962 Dec 2015 #113
No Thanks ProfessorGAC Dec 2015 #116
I guess they figure they'll get rich riding his train. Thats what happened with KBIO 7962 Dec 2015 #117
Like A Card Counter At The Blackjack Table ProfessorGAC Dec 2015 #120
I agree. And also, I've always thought short selling should be illegal. 7962 Dec 2015 #131
May they Unleash Marty McGraw Dec 2015 #112
It wasn't the first corporation he ran. notadmblnd Dec 2015 #125
I'd bet that he wouldn't have been scrutinized were it not for his stupidity. joshcryer Dec 2015 #21
You've put into words what I imagined happened. AllyCat Dec 2015 #28
What he did is SOP for CEOs. joshcryer Dec 2015 #29
No, this has been developing for a few years iirc elehhhhna Dec 2015 #34
I saw riversedges' post, interesting. joshcryer Dec 2015 #37
A noon ET press conference on the arrest is scheduled at the U.S. Attorney's Office in Brooklyn, N.Y riversedge Dec 2015 #23
Look back even further and you'll see he's been a scumbag for YEARS 7962 Dec 2015 #64
This just made my day SmittynMo Dec 2015 #25
BET retrowire Dec 2015 #27
Schadenfreude Fritz Walter Dec 2015 #31
No Schade from me, just freude!! Coventina Dec 2015 #47
While I have always said MurrayDelph Dec 2015 #65
NY Times link BumRushDaShow Dec 2015 #33
Psychopathic CEO and Psychopathic company Ichingcarpenter Dec 2015 #35
Photo of him at the time of his arrest Ichingcarpenter Dec 2015 #61
He's like a cartoon badguy.... PassingFair Dec 2015 #70
He is just more apparent and obvious in his psychopathy Ichingcarpenter Dec 2015 #78
Politicians too arikara Dec 2015 #143
His companies stock dropped 50% immediately...LOL. Historic NY Dec 2015 #36
Is Pharma Bro being sacrificed by the PTB's? 90-percent Dec 2015 #39
The differences are BumRushDaShow Dec 2015 #49
... catbyte Dec 2015 #40
Couldn't agree with you or Grumpy Cat more! Lifelong Protester Dec 2015 #89
Have a holly jolly christmas! Politicub Dec 2015 #41
Hopefully, they have a solid case and winnable in a short period of time... Deuce Dec 2015 #43
Nah, he doesn't need due process ... let him sit there for a month or so ... Myrina Dec 2015 #44
It would be nice if he would have to languish in jail over the holidays... Deuce Dec 2015 #54
The feds generally know what they're doing. Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #100
Schadenfreude never felt so good! hueymahl Dec 2015 #45
Haha! Couldn't have happened to a more deserving asshole! City Lights Dec 2015 #46
That's some poetic justice. PatrickforO Dec 2015 #52
How the hell are you heading up pharmaceutical co's and hedge funds by 32? TwilightGardener Dec 2015 #53
His success was fake. He was a small time Maddoff Liberal_in_LA Dec 2015 #75
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #55
This is one of those headlines They_Live Dec 2015 #56
Dharma Recursion Dec 2015 #57
Merry Christmas shit-head! MowCowWhoHow III Dec 2015 #58
This sucks. He was fantastic at debunking the notion we don't need regulation. frizzled Dec 2015 #59
I'd fund a kickstarter to kick his ass 7962 Dec 2015 #63
That's an Asskickstarter. There's a difference. jmowreader Dec 2015 #137
Ahhh 7962 Dec 2015 #140
And in this case, an Asskickstarter wouldn't be all that expensive jmowreader Dec 2015 #142
No, that's kickassstarter Raster Dec 2015 #155
What about other crooked hedge fund managers? roomtomove Dec 2015 #66
There are others who have been arrested and convicted. Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #67
Hedge Funders are small enough to fail. iandhr Dec 2015 #96
Well this made MY day!! hamsterjill Dec 2015 #68
Ha Ha! TIME TO PANIC Dec 2015 #69
Picture after arrest. Exiting court Liberal_in_LA Dec 2015 #72
Oh, no smug look on THAT face for a change!!!! 7962 Dec 2015 #95
I always felt like I wanted to slap that smug face. Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #101
I wanted SOMEONE to do far worse......... 7962 Dec 2015 #145
Shkreli drove fund from $3 million to $331. Used clients money to pay his living expenses. He is a M Liberal_in_LA Dec 2015 #74
Jerk! Liberal_in_LA Dec 2015 #76
This is one guy. I'd love to see Geronimoe Dec 2015 #77
Silly boy. Even in the High Society of Soulless Wealthy Pricks, there are rules to follow. hunter Dec 2015 #79
indeed allan01 Dec 2015 #81
Shadenfreud never felt so good! NastyRiffraff Dec 2015 #83
buy out clif Dec 2015 #84
He only got arrested because he defrauded other obscenely rich people. CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #85
Actually he defrauded a lot of "regular' folks like you & me. 7962 Dec 2015 #97
The rich screwing over the non-rich is business as usual. CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #104
Yep, if he'd stolen from the poor, he'd be a "smart businessman." nt valerief Dec 2015 #106
Me haz Turbineguy Dec 2015 #86
Delicious. I like to fantasize that the Fibs are going to cut a deal with him... TygrBright Dec 2015 #87
I wish it were otherwise, but Gene Debs Dec 2015 #88
Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #90
I considered posting something similar, but its a bit risky!!!! 7962 Dec 2015 #98
I didn't WISH it to happen on him yurbud Dec 2015 #105
I can picture CNBC claiming he was only targeted because of the media attention. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #92
That moment..... 47of74 Dec 2015 #99
Lol Liberal_in_LA Dec 2015 #103
He could get up to 20 years in prison. Oh my! Glimmer of Hope Dec 2015 #110
Hey! Marty! Hal Bent Dec 2015 #111
A criminal lawyer representing...Martin Shkreli...announced that he was hiking his fees rocktivity Dec 2015 #114
LOL. Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #115
yay! DonCoquixote Dec 2015 #121
Good. LS_Editor Dec 2015 #123
Here's the indictment of that little douchenozzel and one of his buddies 47of74 Dec 2015 #124
"The defendant MARTIN SHKRELI (hereinafter referred to as DOUCHENOZZLE)....." Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #127
What a lovely holiday gift that is!!!! That smirking shit!!! nt MADem Dec 2015 #129
Excellent. Ivan Kaputski Dec 2015 #132
Welcome to the lockup DebbieCDC Dec 2015 #134
Thank you for posting this good news. n/t Judi Lynn Dec 2015 #135
Payday Shkreli! suffragette Dec 2015 #136
Good! Fuck that arrogant sociopath! Dont call me Shirley Dec 2015 #138
Good cindyperry Dec 2015 #139
Did he recently bring this onto himself thanks to his recent greedy move? PersonNumber503602 Dec 2015 #141
This should have a thousand recs. Curmudgeoness Dec 2015 #144
So satisfying... Helen Borg Dec 2015 #146
I hope he only the first of a bunch of them. I've been affected by a simular situation with... marble falls Dec 2015 #147
Just watch as he gets off scott free. Kablooie Dec 2015 #149
Along with the help of some Democratic politicans who think we need to look forward only... 47of74 Dec 2015 #150
He's a jerk. n/t Aerows Dec 2015 #154

marble falls

(57,083 posts)
148. Thankyou for posting these. I don't take much pleasure in other people's problems....
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:00 AM
Dec 2015

but this is a towering exception. This guy needs this experience if only to get him grounded a bit.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
151. Find the webcam footage of him
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:25 PM
Dec 2015

that TMZ has been floating around. Shows him and his smug smirk just hanging out in front of his computer. He is listening to voicemails. Gets to one that starts out "This is special agent" and he turns it off really quick. And that smirk falters for just a sec. But it's beautiful.

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
152. In response to HIV folks possibly not being able to afford the drug he posted
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:00 PM
Dec 2015

"So sad. Too bad" or something close to it

marble falls

(57,083 posts)
153. Karma rolls clear around. I bet he's finally an outside PR firm. I see him taking his....
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:58 PM
Dec 2015

one of record and auctioning it off to benefit a charity of one kind or another.

He's compelling in a despicable sort of way. He was just so "so what" about everything. If some of the news reports are correct, he may be in serious trouble.

The board of a company he founded fired him and are suing him for, I believe $67million(?).

yardwork

(61,608 posts)
5. I'm sure that Big Pharma is having a cow.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 08:20 AM
Dec 2015

He's blowing their cover. They'll help the Feds take him down.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
14. This has to do with ripping off his FORMER company, not the price increases
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 08:59 AM
Dec 2015

But I'll take him behind bars anyway I can get it

From what I've read, most Pharma CEOs are laughing like hell right now. They hate him too

yardwork

(61,608 posts)
32. I'm saying that they will help the Feds take him down.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:34 AM
Dec 2015

There's plenty they can do to help, and they will. They want him out of the picture.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
42. I sure hope so. They certainly would have the resources to assist.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:57 AM
Dec 2015

Brought down by his own kind. That would be great. And MAYBE show others that you can go too far.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
50. This has to do with being a bigshot on the gouging story sparking an investigation into his life...
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:27 AM
Dec 2015

Without the gouging we almost assuredly wouldn't be talking about an arrest now.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
62. Retrophin had already filed suit for 65 million & reported him to the feds
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:33 AM
Dec 2015

They made it ver clear in public what they thought he had done. And if you go further back, he's done a lot of underhanded shit.
But you are likely correct; him being the public pariah that he is gives the feds a chance to look like they're actually doing something for a change. In reality, he should have been arrested long ago or at the very LEAST had his license taken away.
Just hope he doesnt squirm his way out of this

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
93. Exactly
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:02 PM
Dec 2015

Kind of like Capone. If you can't get him for murder you get him for cheating on his taxes.

angryvet

(181 posts)
126. yes but
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:40 PM
Dec 2015

the drug price increases were meant to pay for the damage he did at the other company. Notice that stupid smirk no longer on his face.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
130. The FIRST time I've ever seen him without that smirk!
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:57 PM
Dec 2015

Lets hope there will be MORE times we see it.
I really do NOT like this guy. I rank him and Dick Cheney about the same level

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
6. Hedge fund owners are blood-sucking grifters - all of them!
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 08:21 AM
Dec 2015

Know what I'm sayin', Vern?!?!?

Every. Single. One. Of. Them.

No exceptions.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
30. I will disagree - I knew it would catch up to him eventually, but not
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:28 AM
Dec 2015

in my wildest dreams did I think it would happen this quickly!

harun

(11,348 posts)
128. He's another ponzi scheme hedge funder
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:42 PM
Dec 2015

They had the goods on him for a while, the drug price hiking just made it easier.

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
11. He wasn't arrested for price gouging medication like 5000%
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 08:35 AM
Dec 2015

Just using shares of stock inappropriately.

Which is the bigger outrage?

metalbot

(1,058 posts)
12. The free market reacted very quickly to his price gouging
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 08:41 AM
Dec 2015

While what he did was horrible, and I'm certainly not praising it, the end result of his action is that generics of the same drug are now available in the US for cheaper than what they cost before he jacked the price. It also make it clear to everyone that the guy is a shitbag, so it seems to be win-win in the end.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
38. Hedge fund owners are slick grifters & generally bad news.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:39 AM
Dec 2015
http://guardianlv.com/2015/01/hedge-fund-owner-allegedly-killed-by-son-30-after-cutting-his-allowance/
Hedge Fund Owner Allegedly Killed by Son, 30, After Cutting His Allowance


http://www.finalternatives.com/node/28393
Children Of Wall Street Elite Launch Hedge Funds

Sep 22 2014 | 10:56am ET
Launching your own hedge fund may be a rite of passage for the children of Wall Street's elite.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/hedge-fund-owner-face-million-monthly-child-support/story?id=29210043
Hedge Fund Owner Could Face $1 Million Monthly Child Support Payments (Headline)
In Contentious Divorce Case, Multibillionaire’s Wife Asks Judge to Void Prenup

A multibillionaire hedge fund owner could be on the hook for nearly $1 million a month in child support -– including staggering sums for a private jet, vacations and stationery -– according to newly filed court documents in an Illinois case that threatens to be one of the biggest divorce settlements in the country. Ken Griffin filed for divorce last year from his wife Anne after 11 years of marriage, citing irreconcilable differences. The couple is the parents of three children, ages 2, 4 and 7.

In those court filings, Ken Griffin says his estranged wife reported how much it costs to raise their children each month, including $14,000 for food, $300,000 for a private jet, $160,000 for vacations and $2,000 for stationery. The marriage included five homes, access to two private airplanes, a household staff and 24/7 security services for the children.

Dias Griffin is also asking a judge to throw out her prenuptial agreement, which she says entitles her to only 1 percent of her husband’s estimated $5 billion estate -– or around $50 million. She says she signed the document under duress the day before the couple's 2003 wedding in Chicago.

Griffin is the founder of the Chicago-based Citadel LLC.


AND MY FINAL EXAMPLE: A BLOOD-SUCKING HEDGE FUND, coming to suck your community dry of thriving local business franchises.

http://www.salon.com/2014/09/17/the_real_olive_garden_scandal_why_greedy_hedge_funders_suddenly_care_so_much_about_breadsticks/

Wednesday, Sep 17, 2014 04:45 PM EDT
The real Olive Garden scandal: Why greedy hedge funders suddenly care so much about breadsticks (headline)
Remember that "hilarious" report last week ripping the chain eatery to pieces? The back story will infuriate you (subheadline)

Except Starboard Value (the hedge fund) does not spend its time crusading for better mid-market Italian meals for no reason. It owns a bunch of shares in Olive Garden’s parent company, Darden Restaurants, and wants to take control of the company’s board. The scheme it’s concocted to increase its share price has little to do with breadsticks and pasta water. It really wants to steal Olive Garden’s real estate, and make a billion dollars in the process.

Starboard Value doesn’t try to hide this. Right in the executive summary, it talks up Darden’s real estate holdings the way a starving man sizes up a steak. Darden, owner of LongHorn Steakhouse, Capital Grille and other chains, “has the largest real estate portfolio in the casual dining industry, owning both the land and buildings on nearly 600 stores and the buildings on another 670,” Starboard Value writes. “We believe that a real estate separation could create approximately $1 billion in shareholder value.”

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
107. Too much supply of capital and too little demand for it.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:40 PM
Dec 2015

So those who have it waste it, spending far too much on things they don't need or could easily do without or pay too much for.

Gone is the wise frugality of early America.

And that is the real problem in this country.

A few want to have it all. They can't have it all and be part of a functioning economy. It isn't a matter of jealousy or wanting to take what rich people have. It is a question of whether we are a society. If we are a society, then we have to use our resources well.

The wealth you describe in your post is just excessive. And the power, the control over others that go with that excessive wealth, that concentrated control of the capital in our society, is dangerous for us all. It's a house of cards. One very wealthy person folds, and our whole society folds with him.

Feel the Bern!

I's not about socialism. It is about having a creative, functioning capitalism. You just don't have that when the wealth is as concentrated in a few hands as it is in this country. Especially when that wealth is concentrated in the hands of people who do nothing really useful with their hands.

Tab

(11,093 posts)
26. Proving Al Capone was a bitch
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:23 AM
Dec 2015

but they got him on tax evasion.

Likewise people don't understand why certain offenders get away with a particular transgression; I know they'd like to see justice for their particular incident, but sometimes you have to be happy the jerk is in jail, regardless of what criteria he's in for.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
118. Aslong as he stays there for a long time
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 04:46 PM
Dec 2015

unfortunately, white collar crime usually gets a lot less time than most others, no matter how many people it hurts.

If it's just hurting the wealthy (like Madoff), not such a big deal, but when it hurts everyone (like our stock market crash) these greedy people behind it should be in jail for life.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
119. You should read Eliot Ness' book
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 04:49 PM
Dec 2015

Finding Capone guilty of something was the easy part because there was so much to use. The real bitch was shutting down Capone's manufacturing and distribution network; they wanted it gone because they knew if they just threw Capone in the pokey it would continue. (They knew this because Capone got a year in the Philadelphia City Jail on a gun charge and the beer flowed freely all that time.)

Why tax evasion? They wanted Capone locked up, and "for what" was a secondary consideration. They broke the case against him into several pieces; if he beat the tax rap they could try him for manufacturing, for distributing, murder and so on. Fortunately the jury brought a guilty verdict the first time out.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
16. There are a few things I've hoped would happen to him and this is one,
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:01 AM
Dec 2015

Now the other I wont put into words because it would likely get a hide

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
20. Here's what another Biotech CEO said about Shkreli's company:
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:08 AM
Dec 2015

George Scangos, CEO of biotechnology giant Biogen Inc., went further, saying in an interview, “Turing is to a research-based company like a loan shark is to a legitimate bank.”

These guys dont like this asshole

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
82. Exactly How Did He Get There?
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:13 PM
Dec 2015

It's not like their doing any extra-earthly innovation, as evidenced by the guy from Bio-Gen

Don't want to sound like an old guy on a "get off my lawn" rant, but there is no way a guy at 32, in what would now be his 5th job, is ready or able to run a corporation.

This seems more like the flim-flam man and is not really a legitimate business.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
94. EXACTLY what he is. Here's a history: He started Turing after Retrophin's BoD fired him;
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:04 PM
Dec 2015

and he also had started Retrophin!!! So after getting fired, he immediately started Turing to do the exact same thing as Retrophin; aquire low priced legacy drugs and raise their prices so as to inflate the bottom line. When he got the bad press for the price increase, (remember, he did the exact same thing at Retrophin, to a lesser degree) he then jumps over and announces he's taking a huge interest in Kabios, which had just announced they were about to liquidate because they were in such bad shape. So he was going to start the SAME thing over again.
THAT stock then goes from >2 bucks to over 40 OVERNIGHT, which squashed all the short sellers (which Shkreli is notorious for). So instantly his share value was up 8000% in ONE DAY. This is a company losing EIGHT dollars a share. So this is what he does; one scam to another. But enough people see him getting away with it that they follow his every move trying to make a hit for themselves.
After his arrest was announced, KBIO dropped over 50% and has been halted. I hope it goes back to near zero where it belongs.
Prior to all this, he was known for finding small companies with low volume, selling the stock short, then releasing a news brief where he would make up bad shit about the company. Which of course would spook shareholders into selling their shares, dropping the price. He covers the shirt & makes a ton of money and moves on. MEanwhile, the company is left scrambling to PROVE that what he says wasnt true. By the time they do, the damage is done. NAVB is a great example. It still hasnt recovered from his short attack.

And thats a SHORT history; he's also run his own hedge fund, MSMB, into the ground and been sued by several people from that. Retrophin has sued him currently for 65 million.
He is a college dropout, has no backround in anything biotech related. He will tell you he's "self-taught". He needs to be beaten with a lead pipe.

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
108. Great Facts
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:41 PM
Dec 2015

Unfortunately, it doesn't answer my fundamental question, or probably the same question you have. How does a guy who really doesn't know how to do anything get to a position of power to do even further damage?

It's not like Silverspoon who started with a shipload of money and a huge network of rich family associates. That it could happen that way is lamentable, but ultimately understandable.

This guy had nothing; achieved nothing; show some ability to self-promote and rose to the top of a company before he was 30?

There is something else in the background we don't know yet.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
113. There are no requirements to starting a company and calling yourself the boss.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 04:14 PM
Dec 2015

He made his initial money working at a hedge fund then just went out and started his own when he was still young. Probably started lying at an early age in order to profit by short selling, which allowed him to open a bigger fund. And since he started it, he got to call himself "CEO".
So he actually has NEVER "risen to the top of a company", he just starts them or buys enough shares to get in the CEO chair.

If you REALLY want to get pissed, look up some of his interviews. Its like listening to the cocky high school QB who has all the girls falling all over him
Here's an article from today with a history of his tweets.
http://mashable.com/2015/12/17/martin-shkrelis-greatest-hits/#gnub8hi_qPqX

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
116. No Thanks
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 04:24 PM
Dec 2015

I'm pissed enough already! Thanks for letting me vent.

At the same time, he did get people to buy in. Why would anybody buy in to a company run by a guy who's only clear ability is a willingness to perform a high wire act with other people's money?

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
117. I guess they figure they'll get rich riding his train. Thats what happened with KBIO
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 04:30 PM
Dec 2015

The price shot up when he bought in because people knew he was up to something. They didnt care WHAT as long as they could buy at 2 and sell higher.
One of my friends who HATES this guy even did it. Bought in around 8 and dumped it at 32. All totally legal, but financial musical chairs!

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
120. Like A Card Counter At The Blackjack Table
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 04:56 PM
Dec 2015

I know it's not illegal too. I get that. But, the presumption is that everything is on the up and up and it's free market capitalism.

As soon as you distort the system, it's not a free market anymore.

Might not be illegal, but certainly doesn't seem right.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
131. I agree. And also, I've always thought short selling should be illegal.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 06:00 PM
Dec 2015

If you are so sure a stock is overvalued, then you can buy a put option to buy the shares at the lower price you THINK its going to be in the future. But theres no way you should be able to manipulate a stock price by simply selling a lot of shares you dont even own.

Marty McGraw

(1,024 posts)
112. May they Unleash
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:56 PM
Dec 2015

the wrath of a thousand Buseys at this wretched soul during his stay at the Fed Pokey.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
125. It wasn't the first corporation he ran.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:28 PM
Dec 2015

he's been accused of running a pyramid scheme and using the money from the corp he ran to pay off investors in other corps he ran. He's out on 5 million bond and his attorney who was also charged with one count of fraud is out on a million bond.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
21. I'd bet that he wouldn't have been scrutinized were it not for his stupidity.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:12 AM
Dec 2015

But because he pulled that idiotic price hike he got on peoples radar. All it takes is one guy in the FBI to be "curious" about past dealings and to dig in to it. If he wasn't in the spotlight odds are he would've just been "another CEO" who ripped off a previous company.

AllyCat

(16,187 posts)
28. You've put into words what I imagined happened.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:25 AM
Dec 2015

He made it to the public eye and will be easier to prosecute as a sacrificial lamb. The others will walk.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
37. I saw riversedges' post, interesting.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:39 AM
Dec 2015

Maybe the system is working better than I'd suggested, then.

And if he knew about the investigation that might explain the price hike. Get his bills paid to get out of dodge.

riversedge

(70,218 posts)
23. A noon ET press conference on the arrest is scheduled at the U.S. Attorney's Office in Brooklyn, N.Y
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:18 AM
Dec 2015



... The probe, by federal prosecutors in Brooklyn, dates back to at least January when Retrophin said it received a subpoena from prosecutors seeking information about its relationship with Shkreli.

That subpoena also sought information about individuals or entities that had invested in funds previously managed by Shkreli, Retrophin said in a regulatory filing.

A noon ET press conference on the arrest is scheduled at the U.S. Attorney's Office in Brooklyn, N.Y.
 

7962

(11,841 posts)
64. Look back even further and you'll see he's been a scumbag for YEARS
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:37 AM
Dec 2015

He's lost lawsuits in the past and just kept on doing the same crap.
he owes a LOT of people. It shoudnt have taken this long to grab him. But at least he's finally been charged. Hopefully the feds wont settle for some stupid fine

Coventina

(27,120 posts)
47. No Schade from me, just freude!!
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:17 AM
Dec 2015

German isn't my best language so I hope I split those two correctly!


Man oh man would I have loved to see him do the perp walk.......

MurrayDelph

(5,294 posts)
65. While I have always said
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:38 AM
Dec 2015

that one person's schadenfreude is another's poetic justice, there are times when "schadenfreude" is not a sufficient word.

The problem is "taking delight in another's misfortune" could either mean you are enjoying someone getting their just desserts (as is this case), or that the person taking delight is an asshole (such as when my mother overheard Art Linkletter delighting in the California rain washing out tomato farms other than the ones he owned).

So, we have coined the term "deuchenfreude" to mean taking "delight in the suffering of an asshole who really fucking deserved it!"

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
35. Psychopathic CEO and Psychopathic company
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:38 AM
Dec 2015

Here is the checklist


glib and superficial charm

grandiose (exaggeratedly high) estimation of self


need for stimulation

pathological lying

cunning and manipulativeness

lack of remorse or guilt

shallow affect (superficial emotional responsiveness)

callousness and lack of empathy

parasitic lifestyle

poor behavioral controls

sexual promiscuity

early behavior problems

lack of realistic long-term goals

impulsivity

irresponsibility

failure to accept responsibility for own actions

many short-term marital relationships

juvenile delinquency

revocation of conditional release

criminal versatility

I say he sores pretty high on this checklist



Hare Psychopathy Checklist

Definition

The Hare Psychopathy Checklist-Revised (PCL-R) is a diagnostic tool used to rate a person's psychopathic or antisocial tendencies. People who are psychopathic prey ruthlessly on others using charm, deceit, violence or other methods that allow them to get with they want. The symptoms of psychopathy include: lack of a conscience or sense of guilt, lack of empathy, egocentricity, pathological lying, repeated violations of social norms, disregard for the law, shallow emotions, and a history of victimizing others.

Originally designed to assess people accused or convicted of crimes, the PCL-R consists of a 20-item symptom rating scale that allows qualified examiners to compare a subject's degree of psychopathy with that of a prototypical psychopath. It is accepted by many in the field as the best method for determining the presence and extent of psychopathy in a person.

The Hare checklist is still used to diagnose members of the original population for which it was developed— adult males in prisons, criminal psychiatric hospitals, and awaiting psychiatric evaluations or trial in other correctional and detention facilities. Recent experience suggests that the PCL-R may also be used effectively to diagnose sex offenders as well as female and adolescent offenders.

Purpose

The PCL-R is used for diagnosing psychopathy in individuals for clinical, legal or research purposes. Developed in the early 1990s, the test was originally designed to identify the degree of a person's psychopathic tendencies. Because psychopaths, however, are often repeat offenders who commit sexual assaults or other violent crimes again and again, the PCL-R is now finding use in the courtroom and in institutions as an indicator of the potential risk posed by subjects or prisoners.



Read more: http://www.minddisorders.com/Flu-Inv/Hare-Psychopathy-Checklist.html#ixzz3uaGPiSR2


Don't forget you can't cure a psychopath because
their brain is genetically wired differently



http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/01/life-as-a-nonviolent-psychopath/282271/

examples of corporate psychopathic companies

ENRON and most of the executives created a corporation that was psychopathic.




Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
78. He is just more apparent and obvious in his psychopathy
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 12:37 PM
Dec 2015

than other CEO psychopaths.

Enron's Jeffrey Skilling and media tycoon, Robert Maxwell, are often described as poster boys for successful corporate psychopaths who robbed, lied and cheated their way to success. Also Jimmy Savile was a 'psychopath' but became a Lord and Sir after abusing hundreds.... Hey the queen knighted him so he couldn't be all bad.

If we look a Enron

Jeffery Skilling for example
Had An executive team-building exercise involved a risky motorbike ride on rough terrain in Mexico during which one executive was seriously injured; one of Skilling's closest associates frequently had strippers make office visits (presumably with his blessing), while Skilling himself was publicly abusive to stock traders and low-ranking employees. Most notably, he was seemingly unable to recognise conflicts of interest and breaches of fiduciary duty undertaken by his chief financial officer, approving a series of increasingly far-fetched plans he mistakenly believed would save the company.

He believed himself and other Enron execs to be geniuses, even though hundreds of their ideas failed spectacularly, and occasionally even strayed into criminal territory.


Recognising the office psychopath

The majority of dysfunctional employees are unlikely to be psychopaths, says Dr John Clarke. But if four or more of the criteria below applies to a member of staff, then it might be worth calling in an expert.


Are they prepared to do whatever it takes to get what they want, regardless of how it affects other people?

Have they ever taken credit for work done by someone else?

Do they come across as smooth, polished and charming?

Do they enjoy others being afraid of them?

Are they opportunistic, ruthless, and do they hate to lose and play to win?

Do they consider people they've outsmarted to be dumb or stupid?






Tips for fixing the jerks





And for an interesting interview with this sicko read
his recent interview with HipHopX...........

http://noisey.vice.com/blog/dont-worry-martin-shkreli-has-a-plan-to-bail-bobby-shmurda-out-of-jail


Why psychopaths are bad for buisness

http://www.sott.net/article/248127-Corporate-Psychopaths-Bad-for-Business

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
39. Is Pharma Bro being sacrificed by the PTB's?
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:44 AM
Dec 2015

Is Pharma Bro being sacrificed by the PTB's in the manner of Bernie Maddoff? That is to say, did Shkreli screw his peer group like Madoff, and thus cast to the SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT PTB wolves?

Just wondering...Pretty half assed CT on my part, if you ask me...

-90% Jimmy-+-----------------

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
49. The differences are
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:22 AM
Dec 2015

that this numbskull hadn't been in the business as long as Madoff (who also helped found the NASDAQ and was a billionaire on paper), and Madoff wasn't an attention hoar like this idiot and Madoff's house of cards collapsed on its own. IMHO, he's a small player - hell...he was a Jim Cramer intern!

But agree the PTB had to remove this hot head off the stage... Although it will be interesting to see if he ends up naming names to get out of his bind and what names might pop up that the PTB are really after.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
89. Couldn't agree with you or Grumpy Cat more!
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 02:20 PM
Dec 2015

I wanted to link John Lennon's Instant Karm, but this is good.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
44. Nah, he doesn't need due process ... let him sit there for a month or so ...
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:04 AM
Dec 2015

.... at least. It IS the holiday season, after all. People need time off work.

Deuce

(959 posts)
54. It would be nice if he would have to languish in jail over the holidays...
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:37 AM
Dec 2015

but, he will probably be out before Christmas along with the attorney.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
100. The feds generally know what they're doing.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:20 PM
Dec 2015

They have plenty of money and resources at their disposal. They take their sweet time and make sure every base is covered. There is no way they would make an arrest unless they are very sure of their case.

hueymahl

(2,496 posts)
45. Schadenfreude never felt so good!
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:04 AM
Dec 2015

Does it make me a bad person that I have a warm tingly feeling thinking about him being perp-walked to jail?

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
53. How the hell are you heading up pharmaceutical co's and hedge funds by 32?
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:33 AM
Dec 2015

Who was so razzle-dazzled by this sociopath that they put him in charge, repeatedly?

 

frizzled

(509 posts)
59. This sucks. He was fantastic at debunking the notion we don't need regulation.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:51 AM
Dec 2015

Can we set up a Kickstarter to keep him out of jail and keep goading the general public into taking the finance sector behind the woodshed?

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
67. There are others who have been arrested and convicted.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 12:09 PM
Dec 2015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raj_Rajaratnam

If you have any knowledge of any hedge fund managers being crooked you should contact the authorities.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
68. Well this made MY day!!
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 12:12 PM
Dec 2015

I'm sure the asshole will come out smelling like a rose because he can afford any and all well-known attorneys, pay off who needs paying off, etc.

But for the moment, this headline just absolutely MADE my day. Could NOT happen to anyone more deserving than this creep!

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
101. I always felt like I wanted to slap that smug face.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:21 PM
Dec 2015

(not that I ever would as I abhor violence).

But this is better.

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
74. Shkreli drove fund from $3 million to $331. Used clients money to pay his living expenses. He is a M
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 12:21 PM
Dec 2015

Authorities outlined years of investment losses and lies Shkreli allegedly told his investors almost from the moment he began managing money. By age 26, they said, he got nine investors to place $3 million with him, began losing their money and covering it up. Within a year, his fund's account was down to $331.

Shkreli attracted another $2.35 million investment in 2010 and lost about half of that in two months, the authorities said. As the hole grew, he covered it up with scheme after scheme, telling investors that his returns were as high as 35.8 percent when he was down 18 percent. He used client money to pay for his clothing, food and medical expenses and lied to the broker handling his fund's accounts, authorities said.

http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2015-martin-shkreli-securities-fraud/

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
76. Jerk!
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 12:25 PM
Dec 2015

In fact, it is not only his drug pricing that has turned him into an object of public derision. He recently spent millions on the only copy of a Wu-Tang Clan album that music fans would love to hear and then told Bloomberg Businessweek that he had no immediate plans to listen to it. He spars often on Twitter and message boards, parading his business strategies, musical tastes and politics; he live-streams from his office for long stretches.

http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2015-martin-shkreli-securities-fraud/

hunter

(38,312 posts)
79. Silly boy. Even in the High Society of Soulless Wealthy Pricks, there are rules to follow.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 12:43 PM
Dec 2015

One of them is "Don't embarrass or inconvenience your fellow Soulless Wealthy Pricks."

clif

(27 posts)
84. buy out
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:33 PM
Dec 2015

One of the few things you can still count on in this country is " you can get the justice you can afford"
He will walk simply due to the amount of cash he can spend.

CharlotteVale

(2,717 posts)
85. He only got arrested because he defrauded other obscenely rich people.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:36 PM
Dec 2015

That's the only thing obscenely rich, evil people get arrested for.

But at least he got arrested for something, even though it's still perfectly legal for him to charge obscene amounts for a life-saving drug. When that becomes illegal - then I'll celebrate. But I'm not holding my breath.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
97. Actually he defrauded a lot of "regular' folks like you & me.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:09 PM
Dec 2015

Anyone could have been buying that stock after his announcement that he wasnt selling.
Matter of fact, the richer investors were LESS likely to be buying because they would know his history of lying and look at more than just a tweet.
But he's made so much money just by tweeting a good or bad comment, thats what he's kept doing. I guess he figured he could do it forever

TygrBright

(20,760 posts)
87. Delicious. I like to fantasize that the Fibs are going to cut a deal with him...
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 02:15 PM
Dec 2015

...to rat out all his buds, both among the hedge fund weasels and in the Big Pharma board rooms.

He has *plenty* of dirt on all of them, I'm sure, and he's just the kind of me-firster who'll sell it to save his own sorry ass from doing hard time.

And, sleaze level aside, he's a very small bit of scum in those ponds.

Would be nice if the Fibs started going after the bigger fry.

interestedly.
Bright

 

Gene Debs

(582 posts)
88. I wish it were otherwise, but
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 02:20 PM
Dec 2015

all the people who are gloating about Shkreli's arrest make me laugh. Honestly, when was the last time a Wall Street asshole ever paid any real consequence for their misdeeds? If you think there's anything worse in store for Shkreli than being inconvenienced for a few afternoons, I have a one-off Wu Tang album to sell you. On the other hand, this might be the one case of the person who made himself so toxically hateable that no one will really be willing to lift a finger to help him out. One can hope.

Response to Nye Bevan (Original post)

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
114. A criminal lawyer representing...Martin Shkreli...announced that he was hiking his fees
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 04:22 PM
Dec 2015
from twelve hundred dollars an hour to sixty thousand dollars.

Shkreli, who reportedly received the news about the price hike while he was being fingerprinted, cried foul and accused his attorney of “outrageous and inhumane price gouging...This is the behavior of a sociopath,” (he) was heard screaming...

Shkreli’s lawyer was unmoved by his client’s complaint. “Compared to what he pays for an hour of Wu-Tang Clan, sixty thou is a bargain,” he said.


http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/lawyer-for-martin-shkreli-hikes-fees-five-thousand-per-cent


rocktivity

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
121. yay!
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:10 PM
Dec 2015

The angel on my right shoulder is telling me not to make prison jokes, but the devil on my left says "he is the sort that would try to throw you in jail if you stole a pill you needed to live."

All the same, no jokes, but I do want to see this guy made an example of to the fullest extent of the law, law key term. Time to sell your Wu Tang album Martin.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
127. "The defendant MARTIN SHKRELI (hereinafter referred to as DOUCHENOZZLE)....."
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:40 PM
Dec 2015

Well not really, but an interesting read anyway.

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)
141. Did he recently bring this onto himself thanks to his recent greedy move?
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:52 PM
Dec 2015

Obviously he brought it onto himself when he decided to commit whatever crime it was that he committed, but did they look into him more because of recent acts? If so HAHAHAHA.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
144. This should have a thousand recs.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:09 PM
Dec 2015

Best news I have heard all day.

Now, I will wait to rejoice further until he is in prison.

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
146. So satisfying...
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:35 AM
Dec 2015

Imagine how it would be if the same happened to Cheney, Rumsfeld, the entire bunch of war criminals?...

marble falls

(57,083 posts)
147. I hope he only the first of a bunch of them. I've been affected by a simular situation with...
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 07:57 AM
Dec 2015

a drug used to treat Tuberculosis all around the world that has been 90% effective when used in an infusion to cure bladder cancer. The price went up hugely and VA now has to ration it. It isn't because of the increased number of users: there are more people with Tuberculosis than with Bladder Cancer and in France it is mandated that all newborns get it as tuberculosis prevention - its because there's more money in treating Cancer than in Tuberculosis, a disease mostly of the poor.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
149. Just watch as he gets off scott free.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 01:46 PM
Dec 2015

Hell, he's a rich CEO.
The most extreme thing would be him sent to live at a country club prison for a few months.
Most likely he will be found innocent or given a mild warning and set free.

Don't expect any kind of justice for this kind of asshole.
They have a huge stock of Get Out of Jail Free cards in reserve.



 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
150. Along with the help of some Democratic politicans who think we need to look forward only...
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:32 PM
Dec 2015

...and not backwards because it wouldn't be right to look at the evil people have done and hold them accountable for it. There are plenty of conservadems who think that because they think that sucking up to the rich will get them votes.

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