Turkey detains 27 Russian commercial ships in retaliation (since Russian jet shoot down)
Source: Hurriyet Daily News
As Russia has detained eight commercial ships flying Turkish flags in the Black Sea since the jet crisis erupted between the two countries, Turkey has detained a total of 27 Russian ships in a retaliatory move, as reported by daily Habertürk on Dec. 16.
The diplomatic crisis between Russia and Turkey has continued to result in economic ramifications since Nov. 24 when the Russian jet was downed by Turkey. One of these areas is marine trade, according to sources close to the matter.
Sources told daily Habertürk that Russia detained a total of five commercial ships with Turkish flags in line with the Black Sea Memorandum in the week following the jet incident.
The number of detained Turkish ships has reached eight as of Dec. 15, sources claimed.
Read more: http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-detains-27-russian-commercial-ships-in-retaliation.aspx?pageID=238&nID=92593&NewsCatID=345
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Divernan
(15,480 posts)Every year, some 150 million tons of Russia's crude and petroleum products pass through the Straits of Bosphorus waterway. By that I refer to that section of the Bosphorus River, which bisects the city of Istanbul (population 15 million). The Bosphorus Strait connects the Black Sea to the Sea of Marmara & the Aegean Sea - i.e., the Black Sea with the Mediterranean. All these names mean squat to the vast majority of geographically challenged Americans, right? But freedom to navigate these Turkish waters is absolutely vital to Russia's economic interests. Putin played with fire when he started this mess by detaining commercial ships flying the Turkish flag, thereby dragging commercial interests into his military machinations.
I've been fortunate enough to spend time in Istanbul, including a day spent taking a ferry through the Bosphorus Strait and up & down the river. It is striking to be on a waterway where one shore is in Europe and the other in Asia. The internationally vital waterway was jammed with shipping. For example:
http://www.ajot.com/news/fog-halts-shipping-traffic-at-turkeys-bosphorus-straitReduced visibility due to poor weather in the winter frequently requires maritime officials to shut the Bosphorus, disrupting the flow of Russian oil and grain to world markets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BosphorusThe Bosphorus (/ˈbɒsfərəs/) or Bosporus (/ˈbɒspərəs/; Ancient Greek: ?ό??????, Bósporos; Turkish: Boğaziçi) is a natural strait and internationally-significant waterway located in northwestern Turkey that forms part of the continental boundary between Europe and Asia, and separates Asian Turkey from European Turkey. The world's narrowest strait used for international navigation, the Bosporus connects the Black Sea with the Sea of Marmara, and, by extension, via the Dardanelles, the Aegean, and Mediterranean Seas.
As part of the only passage between the Black Sea and the Mediterranean, the Bosphorus has always been of great importance from a commercial and military point of view, and remains strategically important today. It is a major sea access route for numerous countries, including Russia and Ukraine. Control over it has been an objective of a number of hostilities in modern history, notably the Russo-Turkish War (187778), as well as of the attack of the Allied Powers on the Dardanelles during the 1915 Battle of Gallipoli in the course of World War I.
Turkey joined NATO in 1952, thus affording its straits even more strategic importance as a commercial and military waterway.
In more recent years, the Turkish Straits have become particularly important for the oil industry. Russian oil, from ports such as Novorossyisk, is exported by tankers primarily to western Europe and the U.S. via the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles straits.
turbinetree
(24,701 posts)This can and could get really bad, and this escalation goes back to this World War I the war to end all wars-------------------right
Honk------------------for a political revolution it is about getting a progressive U.S. Supreme Court and Congress
Bernie 2016
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)christx30
(6,241 posts)With as much sabre rattling as Turkey is doing, at what point can NATO say "Good luck with all of that"?
killbotfactory
(13,566 posts)They don't want to be dependent on Russian oil. The Syrian government killed the idea, so, you know, why wouldn't they help bankroll a civil war, smuggling fighters and arms into that country, while turning a blind eye to ISIS and the cheap black market crude and antiquities they smuggle? Bonus: ISIS hates the Kurds, too. That's the only reasonable action a responsible nation-state can take.
Bernin
(311 posts)The term turning a blind eye is not quite accurate.
The infamous Mark 1 Plumbing truck that we have all seen a picture of went straight from Texas to Mersin Turkey where it was mounted with an anti aircraft gun and then used by ISIS.
Serious question here.
Why do we buy oil from Saudi Arabia, who just last Friday cut 30 people's heads off, but we wont buy Russian oil?
Seems we could end the middle east nonsense real fast by switching to Russian oil.
Xithras
(16,191 posts)I didn't make that up. Edrogans party has officially embraced neo-Ottomanism and Edrogan himself is a big supporter of the concept. His political party even used the slogan "Descendants of the Ottomans" for a while.
In a nutshell, neo-Ottomanism says that the middle east went to hell after the Turks lost control of it, that middle eastern nations are too subservient to European and American interests, and that Turkey need to reassert itself as a regional power if there is ever going to be peace in the middle east. They don't want to reconquer the middle east and recreate the Ottoman empire, but they DO want to use "soft power" to become the regions economic and political center. Neo-Ottomans basically want to see Turkey replace the west as the power brokers in the region.
The grandstanding with Russia is part of that. Turkey can't be taken seriously as a regional power if they bend the knee the first time they get threatened by a western nation. Any resolution that doesn't have Edrogan walking away "victorious" is unacceptable to him. Unfortunatly, Putin is in the same situation, and neither one can afford the political fallout that will occur if they give ground to the other.